Typical Euopean PF Mirza Teletovic show's how bad NBA big men are at shooting.

[Sharmer]

Teletovic just destroyed the Mav's. This show's two things. That a lot of European PF could shoot the lights out in the NBA if given the chance and the NBA have a shortage of PF who can shoot the ball well from distance. How many American based PF who are not even considered to be a main stay in the rotation could come in and all of a sudden shoot the ball like Mirza Teletovic. Not many, if not none. Europeans are more skilled at shooting the ball.

[Cone]

he had one fluke ass game. chill the fcuk out

[kNicKz]

Career 3.5 PPG

:yaohappy:

[Smook A.]

:applause:
he had one fluke ass game. chill the fcuk out

[Andrew Wiggins]

i guess you've never heard of ryan anderson, kevin love, lamarcus aldridge, channing frye, and chris bosh

[oarabbus]

Teletovic is not a typical euro PF, WTF? I don't follow the Euroleague at all but the way people talked about him, he was one of their best talents.

[duskovujosevic]

mirza iz not typical euro PF. he is nowhere near elite EL player. He is scrub in NBA tho

[Sharmer]

Chris Bosh career average 30% from 3, but this good for a NBA PF :lol

[Sharmer]

Teletovic is not a typical euro PF, WTF? I don't follow the Euroleague at all but the way people talked about him, he was one of their best talents.

Start watching then you'll know just like i do that European bigs shoot the ball a lot better than Americans.

[oarabbus]

Start watching then you'll know just like i do that European bigs shoot the ball a lot better than Americans.


Oh, I know Euros shoot and generally have much better fundamentals than American bigs. But Teletovic seems much more talented than many Euro players who come over to the NBA.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Could this have something to do with the fact that big men shouldn't be ****ing shooting from farther than 15 feet out?

[tpols]

i guess you've never heard of ryan anderson, kevin love, lamarcus aldridge, channing frye, and chris bosh
Anderson is the only comparable shooter to Teletovic here

[oarabbus]

Could this have something to do with the fact that big men shouldn't be ****ing shooting from farther than 15 feet out?


Tell that to Dirk/LMA/Bosh

[Sharmer]

Oh, I know Euros shoot and generally have much better fundamentals than American bigs. But Teletovic seems much more talented than many Euro players who come over to the NBA.

Not really, given the chance a lot of Euro players could do this. The NBA is game built on athleticism and not skill. That's why a unskilled athletic Dwight Howard could be considered one of the best big men in the league.

It kind of detracts from the standard of ball in the NBA because once a player loses their athleticism they're kept around for scrub minutes, like T mac.

T mac was still skilled but considered to have lost his athleticism therefore his career was over at 33.

In reality a lot more skilled less athletic players could put are big numbers in the NBA if given the chance, but once a player is veiwed not be athletic ; no way their getting the same opportunities as a unskilled athletic player.

[Sharmer]

i guess you've never heard of ryan anderson, kevin love, lamarcus aldridge, channing frye, and chris bosh

You're missing the point, sure you can pick out a few Americans who can shoot. The point is as a whole Euro bigs are much better as shooting from distance. That's why a average Euro can destroy a NBA team from 3 on any given night if given the chance.

[bd#1pguard]

mirza iz not typical euro PF. he is nowhere near elite EL player. He is scrub in NBA tho

you must be krazy (tako those ceto sunglasses off)

[duskovujosevic]

he never won shit in europe. never played in top8, he never won anything with national team, and he will end being bench warmer in NBA. nice career. future HOF

[KyrieTheFuture]

Tell that to Dirk/LMA/Bosh
Believe me I wish I could. LMA got them post moves too though so I can't be too mad. Those skills just aren't great for a big man to have, that's why Bosh never did much in Toronto despite putting up good numbers, and outside of one season where he got hotter than the sun, Dirk fell short many years.

[bd#1pguard]

he never won shit in europe. never played in top8, he never won anything with national team, and he will end being bench warmer in NBA. nice career. future HOF

team achievements dont make the player.

[duskovujosevic]

ok, he niether played in elite EL teams, nor was main player anywhere except in Bosnia. He actually had outburst in last EL season. But nothing worth mentioning as spectacular. Brooklyn had interest, they buy him. Got benched last season. Had remarkable game. Made Lebron look like a bum, and that's it.

[Euroleague]

Teletovic is not a typical euro PF, WTF? I don't follow the Euroleague at all but the way people talked about him, he was one of their best talents.

Yes, one of the best talents, but not one of the elite players. He's a brain dead idiot. Still, he can score 40 points in an NBA game without any doubt, if they let him do his thing.

[Euroleague]

i guess you've never heard of ryan anderson, kevin love, lamarcus aldridge, channing frye, and chris bosh

You can't be serious........................

Maybe, maybe, MAYBE Anderson, and even that's highly doubtful.

[Euroleague]

team achievements dont make the player.

He was never any elite Euroleague player. Stop being a troll. That's guys like Diamantidis, Navarro, Spanoulis..........before that was guys like Siskauskas, Papaloukas, Jasikevicius, before that Bodiroga and so forth. You could argue that Teodosic at certain times was on the cusp of this, but he regressed a lot for some reason in recent years.

Never at any time was Teletovic at this level.

[bd#1pguard]

He was never any elite Euroleague player. Stop being a troll. That's guys like Diamantidis, Navarro, Spanoulis..........before that was guys like Siskauskas, Papaloukas, Jasikevicius, before that Bodiroga and so forth. You could argue that Teodosic at certain times was on the cusp of this, but he regressed a lot for some reason in recent years.

Never at any time was Teletovic at this level.

bodiroga yes, all the other ones are straight trash, why are you calling yourself a troll, none of those players even had one good game in the nba

[bd#1pguard]

ok, he niether played in elite EL teams, nor was main player anywhere except in Bosnia. He actually had outburst in last EL season. But nothing worth mentioning as spectacular. Brooklyn had interest, they buy him. Got benched last season. Had remarkable game. Made Lebron look like a bum, and that's it.

if hes not elite how come he was the best scorer in the fiba games and beat lithuania by himself?

[Euroleague]

bodiroga yes, all the other ones are straight trash, why are you calling yourself a troll, none of those players even had one good game in the nba

Ignore list and you can go to hell.

[moe94]

Ignore list and you can go to hell.
:roll:

[bd#1pguard]

Ignore list and you can go to hell.

i know for a fact you dont put anyone on the ignore list. Hence, you can lick my crusty heel.

[Sharmer]

Yes, one of the best talents, but not one of the elite players. He's a brain dead idiot. Still, he can score 40 points in an NBA game without any doubt, if they let him do his thing.

non elite Euro PF can go for 40 in the NBA, shows you how over rated the NBA is.

[Sharmer]

It's funny how Chris Bosh could be considered a good shooting big when he's career average is 30% from 3. Delusional American stans for the NBA.

[artificial]

You're missing the point, sure you can pick out a few Americans who can shoot. The point is as a whole Euro bigs are much better as shooting from distance. That's why a average Euro can destroy a NBA team from 3 on any given night if given the chance.

http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/4f44002f6bb3f77c1b000016-1200/nikola-pekovic-is-quickly-becoming-a-fan-favorite-in-minnesota-the-timberwolves-centers-solid-interior-play-12-points-7-rebounds-per-game-allows-kevin-love-to-move-outside-the-paint-where-hes-more-comfortable-likewise-having-pekovic-down-low-means-love-isnt-over-matched-on-defense.jpg





*And to your point: European bigs shooting from outside all day is an inaccurate stereotype. I don't think the percentage of bigs that shoot from distance in the NBA is that different from European leagues.

[Sharmer]

http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/4f44002f6bb3f77c1b000016-1200/nikola-pekovic-is-quickly-becoming-a-fan-favorite-in-minnesota-the-timberwolves-centers-solid-interior-play-12-points-7-rebounds-per-game-allows-kevin-love-to-move-outside-the-paint-where-hes-more-comfortable-likewise-having-pekovic-down-low-means-love-isnt-over-matched-on-defense.jpg





*And to your point: European bigs shooting from outside all day is an inaccurate stereotype. I don't think the percentage of bigs that shoot from distance in the NBA is that different from European leagues.


If you watch Euro or look up shooting stats you'll find the Euro bigs are superior from long range.

Alternatively American bigs are better closer to the basket.

This is should be basketball 101.

[Fiba basketball]

I think that better example for European big men bieng better shooters is Pekovic. Just compare his ft% to let's say Howards, and Pekovic isn't that much better ft shooter than most European Cs.

As for pfs I always thought it was interesting that most of the american pfs in NBA aren't good 3pt shooters while most of american pfs in best Europe are good at it.

[Sharmer]

I think that better example for European big men bieng better shooters is Pekovic. Just compare his ft% to let's say Howards, and Pekovic isn't that much better ft shooter than most European Cs.

As for pfs I always thought it was interesting that most of the american pfs in NBA aren't good 3pt shooters while most of american pfs in best Europe are good at it.


People are missing the point, Teletovic is system player, Euro leagues have very good shooting big men and the NBA doesn't.

The American system doesn't produce big men who shoot the ball from distance.

If it wasn't for players like Detlef Schrempf in 90's, big men in the NBA wouldn't hardly even take the three. They would be cloned to score close to the basket.

[Fiba basketball]

People are missing the point, Teletovic is system player, Euro leagues have very good shooting big men and the NBA doesn't.

The American system doesn't produce big men who shoot the ball from distance.

If it wasn't for players like Detlef Schrempf in 90's, big men in the NBA wouldn't hardly even take the three. They would be cloned to score close to the basket.

Yes it does but those player mostly play in Europe because NBA teams choose athletic big men over those who can shoot.

[Sharmer]

Yes it does but those player mostly play in Europe because NBA teams choose athletic big men over those who can shoot.

Other way around, the big men who end up playing in Europe end up learning how to shoot when they're playing in Euro leagues, that's why if they come back to the NBA; they come back much better.

[Andrew Wiggins]

I think that better example for European big men bieng better shooters is Pekovic. Just compare his ft% to let's say Howards, and Pekovic isn't that much better ft shooter than most European Cs.

As for pfs I always thought it was interesting that most of the american pfs in NBA aren't good 3pt shooters while most of american pfs in best Europe are good at it.

nice cherry picking

how about omer asik's ft% or andris biedrins?

demarcus cousins is the same size as pekovic and shoots a similar % from the ft line

those contested turnaround long jumpers that lamarcus aldridge consistently hits are much tougher than the open 3s teletovic shots

[GoranDragon]

He'll be waived next season and we won't see his beta face forever. Nice.:cheers:

[Bosnian Sajo]

It's funny how only the Serb and Croatian are talking about how "bad" Teletovic is. Even Euroleague recognizes that Mirza is a good player.

[Sharmer]

It's funny how only the Serb and Croatian are talking about how "bad" Teletovic is. Even Euroleague recognizes that Mirza is a good player.


He said he's talented. Big difference.

Ass rapist.

[Fiba basketball]

nice cherry picking

how about omer asik's ft% or andris biedrins?

demarcus cousins is the same size as pekovic and shoots a similar % from the ft line

those contested turnaround long jumpers that lamarcus aldridge consistently hits are much tougher than the open 3s teletovic shots

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/position/centers

Look at how many European Cs are shooting over 70%. I'm not saying that all European Cs are good ft shooters since there are a lot of ones who are horrible ones ( Asik, Kaun, Vidmar ) but average European C is much better ft shooter than USA C and you can tell that by just watching a few games.

[Fiba basketball]

It's funny how only the Serb and Croatian are talking about how "bad" Teletovic is. Even Euroleague recognizes that Mirza is a good player.

No one says he is bad, he was top 3 pf in Europe in my oppinion but he wasn't an elite player just like two othere best pfs ( Lorbek and Khryapa ) also aren't elite players.

[Clutch]

It's funny how only the Serb and Croatian are talking about how "bad" Teletovic is. Even Euroleague recognizes that Mirza is a good player.
I'm Croatian and I love Mirza. He's good,he'll never be an all-star type player but he's a good role player.
Too bad that he plays for a team that I hate so I can't really root for him to have success (him having success is related to the Nets having success and I don't want them to be good :lol ).

[Joyner82reload]

Amusing seeing as the majority of elite 3 point shooters in the league that are 6'9+ are American's...

[CeltsGarlic]

Mirza can dunk that ball tho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkrq7UuwOBQ

[BoutPractice]

Over the hills from far away,
Teletovic came to play ....
Time for Teletovic,
time for Teletovic,
time for Teletovic....
Tinkywinky. (Tinkywinky!)
Dipsy. (Dipsy!)
Laalaa. (Laalaa!)
Po. (Po!)

It's very difficult to take him seriously with a name like this.

[ronnymac]

http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/4f44002f6bb3f77c1b000016-1200/nikola-pekovic-is-quickly-becoming-a-fan-favorite-in-minnesota-the-timberwolves-centers-solid-interior-play-12-points-7-rebounds-per-game-allows-kevin-love-to-move-outside-the-paint-where-hes-more-comfortable-likewise-having-pekovic-down-low-means-love-isnt-over-matched-on-defense.jpg





*And to your point: European bigs shooting from outside all day is an inaccurate stereotype. I don't think the percentage of bigs that shoot from distance in the NBA is that different from European leagues.

Zanghiff

[ralph_i_el]

he was one of the best players in Europe.

Plenty of Americans who can shoot at the 4 spot. It's just become more popular of a role over the past decade.

[paintingshade]

Too bad they can't play defense.

[JohnMax]

Mike Breen and Jeff Vangundy mentioned during Heat-Spurs game how Popavich was shocked by how dominant Boris Diaw was over the Summer in some Euro tournament with France.

Gasol was dominant in the Olympics but looks like crap on the Lakers. He even dominated Dirk over in Europe just after Dirk won championship.

[bd#1pguard]

mirza will not get waived next season

all you croat and serb haters will eat your words

[Darius]

You know ISH has arrived when we have ex-yugo ethnicity battles erupting.

[morbius]

mirza will not get waived next season

all you croat and serb haters will eat your words

Rule no. 1: Let's not display domestic disputes in front of outsiders. That stuff stays in the house.

Mirza is a fine player and will do fine in the NBA. At worst, he will be a poor man's Ryan Anderson. At best, he could become PF version of Stojakovic.

[Euroleague]

Mike Breen and Jeff Vangundy mentioned during Heat-Spurs game how Popavich was shocked by how dominant Boris Diaw was over the Summer in some Euro tournament with France.

Gasol was dominant in the Olympics but looks like crap on the Lakers. He even dominated Dirk over in Europe just after Dirk won championship.

WTF?

[Euroleague]

Rule no. 1: Let's not display domestic disputes in front of outsiders. That stuff stays in the house.

Mirza is a fine player and will do fine in the NBA. At worst, he will be a poor man's Ryan Anderson. At best, he could become PF version of Stojakovic.

Except that he's a lot more athletic and a lot more selfish and dumber than Peja.

[duskovujosevic]

mirza will not get waived next season

all you croat and serb haters will eat your words

you mad... mirza future HOF hahaahah :roll:

[Djetic]

you mad... mirza future HOF hahaahah :roll:
I dont know why u are hating on Mirza, he is not future HOF but he is not some scrub like you claim.He is stretch 4 and he does things asked from him, hiting his shots, stretching the floor, he even made progress in rebounding and defense lately.Game vs Dallas was his first game he got hot in NBA, he had a lot more of that games while he was playing in Europe because he was playing more than 15 MPG.My point is, he has his role in this Nets team and he plays up to it.Last time i checked Serbia didnt had big of Mirza caliber which would easily be best player in that team.

[Nick Young]

Teletovic was like MVP level in Europe and now is a bench scrub:lol

Superstar PG Teodosic is afraid to even come here cus he knows he couldnt make it as 15th man on the Bobcats.

[Euroleague]

Teletovic was like MVP level in Europe and now is a bench scrub:lol

Superstar PG Teodosic is afraid to even come here cus he knows he couldnt make it as 15th man on the Bobcats.

Put down the meth pipe.

[Euroleague]

I dont know why u are hating on Mirza, he is not future HOF but he is not some scrub like you claim.He is stretch 4 and he does things asked from him, hiting his shots, stretching the floor, he even made progress in rebounding and defense lately.Game vs Dallas was his first game he got hot in NBA, he had a lot more of that games while he was playing in Europe because he was playing more than 15 MPG.My point is, he has his role in this Nets team and he plays up to it.Last time i checked Serbia didnt had big of Mirza caliber which would easily be best player in that team.

If by "big" you mean PF, then honestly, Mirza is not all THAT much better than Savanovic. He's better, but it's not like it's by all THAT much. Same with Bjelica.

If you mean by "big" PF and C, then is he even really better than Krstic? It's debatable.

"Easily best player in that team"?...............STOP DOING DRUGS

[spacebump]

Believe me I wish I could. LMA got them post moves too though so I can't be too mad. Those skills just aren't great for a big man to have, that's why Bosh never did much in Toronto despite putting up good numbers, and outside of one season where he got hotter than the sun, Dirk fell short many years.

Dirk's stats go up almost every time he goes to the playoffs. It basically wasn't his fault almost any series the Mavs lost.

[Djetic]

If by "big" you mean PF, then honestly, Mirza is not all THAT much better than Savanovic. He's better, but it's not like it's by all THAT much. Same with Bjelica.

If you mean by "big" PF and C, then is he even really better than Krstic? It's debatable.

"Easily best player in that team"?...............STOP DOING DRUGS
I dont really get all jumpy on cheap trolling but ill bite this time.There is really no need to throw insults and call me a junkie.

What i meant to say, Mirza caliber big would push Serbia one tier above their current level, but as usual you tend to interpret things on your own way.Comparing Mirza to Savanovic is ridiculous even for you, Bjelica is one fine player with enormous basketball IQ but i don't like him because he always struck me as "jack of all trades master of none" player and he was too inconsistent and tends to disappear in some games i watched he played for Serbia.Speaking of Krstic it would be disrespectful to compare him to completely different player but knowing that he is past his prime and probably has one or two good years left I'd go with Mirza as primary scoring option.

[duskovujosevic]

meth is strong in this posters. omg, omg.
MIRZA had one season outburst. He played in average EL teams. Never make in in F4. Strech PF like dozens in EL. Had ONE GAME, i mean ONE GOOD GAME. And all of a sadden, bandwagoners shows up. He is nothing more than role player, both in the NBA and EL.

Serbia dont need payer who acts like assshole. Jackin shots from 10 meters like he did in Bosnia

[duskovujosevic]

I dont really get all jumpy on cheap trolling but ill bite this time.There is really no need to throw insults and call me a junkie.

What i meant to say, Mirza caliber big would push Serbia one tier above their current level, but as usual you tend to interpret things on your own way.Comparing Mirza to Savanovic is ridiculous even for you, Bjelica is one fine player with enormous basketball IQ but i don't like him because he always struck me as "jack of all trades master of none" player and he was too inconsistent and tends to disappear in some games i watched he played for Serbia.Speaking of Krstic it would be disrespectful to compare him to completely different player but knowing that he is past his prime and probably has one or two good years left I'd go with Mirza as primary scoring option.

Krsic past his prime hahaahahahahaah, these guys are hilarious

[fandarko]

Mike Breen and Jeff Vangundy mentioned during Heat-Spurs game how Popavich was shocked by how dominant Boris Diaw was over the Summer in some Euro tournament with France.

Diaw averaged 10/4/3 on the Eurobasket last summer.

Yeah, he sure dominated.

[fandarko]

Teletovic was like MVP level in Europe and now is a bench scrub:lol

Superstar PG Teodosic is afraid to even come here cus he knows he couldnt make it as 15th man on the Bobcats.

Your "superstar" is averaging 7/5 with CSKA this season.

But he did torch the Wolves and Rubio last summer with 27 points.

[gabepizza]

Diaw averaged 10/4/3 on the Eurobasket last summer.

Yeah, he sure dominated.

Really 10.4/4.6/3.4 but more importantly he was 3rd in points, 3rd in rebounds, 2nd in assists, 3rd in steals and 3rd in blocked shots on the team that won gold.

Well Spanoulis led the tournament in turnovers and finished 11th.

[Dr.J4ever]

Really 10.4/4.6/3.4 but more importantly he was 3rd in points, 3rd in rebounds, 2nd in assists, 3rd in steals and 3rd in blocked shots on the team that won gold.

Well Spanoulis led the tournament in turnovers and finished 11th.
Yeah, and Euroleague said the other day to a poster who dared question why Vspan only had 2.5apg in the Eurobasket, " 2.5 apg in FIBA is like 7apg in the NBA, genius!".... So there.. What would 3.4apg be?:lol

[gabepizza]

Yeah, and Euroleague said the other day to a poster who dared question why Vspan only had 2.5apg in the Eurobasket, " 2.5 apg in FIBA is like 7apg in the NBA, genius!".... So there.. What would 3.4apg be?:lol

Yeah just looked it up. 3.4apg was 8th in the entire tournament, a tournament with 24 teams. So by dominate he probably meant being one of the top players on the top team.

[AirTupac]

Mirza a role player in the Euroleague? He was one of the best scorers both in the Eurobasket and Euroleague. Was amazing in this past summer tournament. Try harder ceto.

[duskovujosevic]

look at the allmighty mirza stats in EL :roll:

look at the rbs haahahaha

http://i57.tinypic.com/2q9ce8z.jpg

in 11/12 season his team didn't pass top16 :facepalm

hilarious trolls

FUTURE HOF mirza in other competitions

http://i61.tinypic.com/ou8qol.jpg

ELITE PF mirza, never played EL F4

These trolls are amazing

MIRZA rebounding machine haahahah

[boozehound]

so, what does this say about a player like Gigi Datome?

[Euroleague]

I dont really get all jumpy on cheap trolling but ill bite this time.There is really no need to throw insults and call me a junkie.

What i meant to say, Mirza caliber big would push Serbia one tier above their current level, but as usual you tend to interpret things on your own way.Comparing Mirza to Savanovic is ridiculous even for you, Bjelica is one fine player with enormous basketball IQ but i don't like him because he always struck me as "jack of all trades master of none" player and he was too inconsistent and tends to disappear in some games i watched he played for Serbia.Speaking of Krstic it would be disrespectful to compare him to completely different player but knowing that he is past his prime and probably has one or two good years left I'd go with Mirza as primary scoring option.

"Easily best player in that team".

Like I said............STOP DOING DRUGS.

[Euroleague]

Diaw averaged 10/4/3 on the Eurobasket last summer.

Yeah, he sure dominated.

I know, that was like craziest comment in this thread. Once again, Jeff Van Gundy proved how much of an idiot he is.

[Euroleague]

Really 10.4/4.6/3.4 but more importantly he was 3rd in points, 3rd in rebounds, 2nd in assists, 3rd in steals and 3rd in blocked shots on the team that won gold.

Well Spanoulis led the tournament in turnovers and finished 11th.

Yeah, so that means Mario Chalmers also "dominated" the NBA the last few years....................

:facepalm

[Euroleague]

so, what does this say about a player like Gigi Datome?

He's a very talented player, but he was a complete scrub the whole time he was in Euroleague. What exactly is your point?

[Rooster]

Mirza a role player in the Euroleague? He was one of the best scorers both in the Eurobasket and Euroleague. Was amazing in this past summer tournament. Try harder ceto.

This:applause:

The All Eurobasket team are mainly NBA players. Euroleague studs are role players in the NBA.

[Rooster]

He's a very talented player, but he was a complete scrub the whole time he was in Euroleague. What exactly is your point?

So the one who led the league in scoring is a scrub.:facepalm

[SexSymbol]

Euroleague logic :
Anybody who made the NBA was a scrub in EU.

[Euroleague]

This:applause:

The All Eurobasket team are mainly NBA players. Euroleague studs are role players in the NBA.

Teletovic was never in the All EuroBasket Team.

Piss off.

[madmax]

mirza will not get waived next season

all you croat and serb haters will eat your words

:lol

[Euroleague]

So the one who led the league in scoring is a scrub.:facepalm

Datome never led the Euroleague in scoring you idiot.

[Euroleague]

Euroleague logic :
Anybody who made the NBA was a scrub in EU.

Your "logic" - you just make up whatever the **** you want to and then pass it off as "fact".

[Rooster]

Euroleague logic :
Anybody who made the NBA was a scrub in EU.

Sabas was Euroleague MVP before he came to NBA:applause:

And he was like 50 year old with bum knees :facepalm

And still Euroleague MVP when he came back to Euroleague:roll:

[madmax]

Sabas was Euroleague MVP before he came to NBA:applause:

And he was like 50 year old with bum knees :facepalm

And still Euroleague MVP when he came back to Euroleague:roll:

even with a shattered arthritic knees

and torn achilles tendons

60 years old Sabas is way too good for the Euroleague bums:lol

[Rooster]

even with a shattered arthritic knees

and torn achilles tendons

60 years old Sabas is way too good for the Euroleague bums:lol

I think the NBA experienced paid off.:banana:

[Euroleague]

Sabas was Euroleague MVP before he came to NBA:applause:

And he was like 50 year old with bum knees :facepalm

And still Euroleague MVP when he came back to Euroleague:roll:

Even though the Euroleague MVP award did not even exist when Sabonis played there............

Yep, makes sense.

[Rooster]

Even though the Euroleague MVP award did not even exist when Sabonis played there............

Yep, makes sense.

Stop downplaying Sabas greatness:no:

He is greater than any baller that Greek has ever produced.:oldlol:

His broken down version was an impact player in NBA:bowdown:

And his 50 years old version was Euroleague MVP:facepalm :oldlol:

Spanoulis could not even crack NBA rotation.:oldlol:

[duskovujosevic]

Mirza was not even in top10 players in EL, role player in NBA is his greatest career achievement