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AirTupac
01-27-2014, 12:34 PM
Replaces Durant

Where do they go? Finals for sure but I legitmately think they win a few titles together. Kobe + Westbrook with that supporting cast ? :applause:

Joyner82reload
01-27-2014, 12:35 PM
Kobe and Westbrook playing together? Is that a joke? :roll:

They would lose in the 2nd round and Kobe/Westbrook would literally get ejected from several games for fighting one another

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 12:37 PM
Kobe and Westbrook playing together? Is that a joke? :roll:

They would lose in the 2nd round and Kobe/Westbrook would literally get ejected from several games for fighting one another

Championships would keep them at bay for a little while :pimp:

ArbitraryWater
01-27-2014, 12:39 PM
LMFAO 2R Exit vs Warriors

Kobe and Westbrook :roll:

Kobe and another inefficient shotjacker=DOESNT WORK.

ImKobe
01-27-2014, 12:40 PM
Kobe would be alpha enough to get GOATbrook to play team ball, Thunder 3-peat

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 12:42 PM
Putting the best player in the league on this Thunder team and they're a 2nd round exit, yeah right :lol

magic chiongson
01-27-2014, 12:42 PM
nice bait thread :applause:

ImKobe
01-27-2014, 12:43 PM
LMFAO 2R Exit vs Warriors

Kobe and Westbrook :roll:

Kobe and another inefficient shotjacker=DOESNT WORK.

How do you know when he's never played with another shotjacker in the first place :coleman:

and 45-46% is hardly inefficient, it's above-average for guards

inefficient would be 38-42%, like AI.

LeBron 06
01-27-2014, 12:45 PM
The season of Kobe in 2006 is overrated

He was great, but if LeBron or KD would have 27 shots per game, they would at least 37-40 PPG

Trollsmasher
01-27-2014, 12:45 PM
They would definitely be better with Kobe than with Durant:applause:

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 12:46 PM
The season of Kobe in 2006 is overrated

He was great, but if LeBron or KD would have 27 shots per game, they would at least 37-40 PPG

Yeah we all know the story with LeBron and his "big stat" nights. :roll: :roll: :roll:
GTFO with that shit. LeBron talks about putting up points but he flops like always (kinda like how he flops in games).

LeBron 06
01-27-2014, 12:51 PM
Yeah we all know the story with LeBron and his "big stat" nights. :roll: :roll: :roll:
GTFO with that shit. LeBron talks about putting up points but he flops like always (kinda like how he flops in games).



Why are you laughing?

In 2006, LeBron had 31 PPG in 23 shot attempts per game and he had only 21 years old

imdaman99
01-27-2014, 12:55 PM
3 peat. Kobe + Goatbrook = matchup disaster for whoever they play

Joyner82reload
01-27-2014, 12:55 PM
Yeah we all know the story with LeBron and his "big stat" nights. :roll: :roll: :roll:
GTFO with that shit. LeBron talks about putting up points but he flops like always (kinda like how he flops in games).

Well I would love to hear your analysis of Durant. Seeing as he's putting up 36.5/7.6/5.9 on 66.5 TS% with no second option. Those numbers put 06 Kobe to shame.

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 12:56 PM
Why are you laughing?

In 2006, LeBron had 31 PPG in 23 shot attempts per game and he had only 21 years old

Guess you and LeBron have something in common, both dumb as rocks :lol

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 12:57 PM
Well I would love to hear your analysis of Durant. Seeing as he's putting up 36.5/7.6/5.9 on 66.5 TS% with no second option. Those numbers put 06 Kobe to shame.

31.1 ppg ***

Prime Kobe literally outperforms current Durant. No question about it.

KG215
01-27-2014, 01:00 PM
31.1 ppg ***

Prime Kobe literally outperforms current Durant. No question about it.
He's talking about what Durant has done since Westbrook went down...which is average 36-8-6 on on 53/39/88 shooting and 67% TS in 16 games.

ImKobe
01-27-2014, 01:00 PM
31.1 ppg ***

Prime Kobe literally outperforms current Durant. No question about it.

Seriously. Call me when KD scores 50+ for 4 straight games or has 9 straight 40 point games. Or scores 60+ points in one game.

With all the size advantage KD has, his skillset is nowhere near as good as Kobe's. It just isn't.

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 01:01 PM
No, he's talking about what Duran has done since Westbrook went down...which is average 36-8-6 on on 53/39/88 shooting and 67% TS in 16 games.

Oh so I can pick a small sample frame to boost Kobe's stats as well? I should probably go pick that month he went on a scoring rampage so it'll help out my agenda

KG215
01-27-2014, 01:03 PM
Oh so I can pick a small sample frame to boost Kobe's stats as well? I should probably go pick that month he went on a scoring rampage so it'll help out my agenda
I don't give a f**k what you do. I'm just pointing out what he did, which is highlight what Durant is doing without a legit second option for the first time in his career. And 16 games isn't exactly a small sample size. It's roughly 20% of an entire season and past the point where you can say "sample size is way too small." Not saying it's an ideal sample size, but 16 games of 36-8-6 on 53/39/88 and 67% TS is pretty absurd.

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 01:05 PM
I don't give a f**k what you do. I'm just pointing out what he did, which is highlight what Durant is doing without a legit second option for the first time in his career. And 16 games isn't exactly a small sample size. It's roughly 20% of an entire season and past the point where you can say "sample size is way too small." Not saying it's an ideal sample size, but 16 games of 36-8-6 on 53/39/88 and 67% TS is pretty absurd.

And 2006 Kobe outperforms this so that should tell you something (was a better defender as well)

KG215
01-27-2014, 01:07 PM
And 2006 Kobe outperforms this so that should tell you something (was a better defender as well)
Everything in that post is debatable. 2006 Kobe was nothings special defensively and Durant's scoring at a similar clip on much better efficiency than 2006 Kobe.

But that's where I will say the 16 game sample size is too small, because I don't think Durant would still put up a near 50/40/90 season at 33-35 PPG without Westbrook over the entire course of a season. But I do think he'd still be significantly more efficient than Kobe.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-27-2014, 01:10 PM
Kobe and Westbrook wouldn't have the same chemistry. OKC would fall off a bit.

ImKobe
01-27-2014, 01:11 PM
No, he's talking about what Duran has done since Westbrook went down...which is average 36-8-6 on on 53/39/88 shooting and 67% TS in 16 games.

Here's a 16-game sample from Kobe's 05-06 season, from dec 20-jan 27

43 ppg 6 rpg 4 apg on 46/38/86 shooting and 59%TS

KD's is pretty close, but Kobe had a much worse roster around him.

Or how about an example from 02-03 Kobe during his hottest stretch in 16 games:

from 6th Feb - 11th March

37.9 ppg 5.4 rpg 4.4 apg 2.5 spg 0.8 bpg on 47/40/83 shooting, at 24 years of age.

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 01:14 PM
Here's a 16-game sample from Kobe's 05-06 season, from dec 20-jan 27

43 ppg 6 rpg 4 apg on 46/38/86 shooting and 59%TS

KD's is pretty close, but Kobe had a much worse roster around him.

Kobe had nothing close to what Durant had. Even bench players like Lamb and Reggie are an upgrade. Imagine Westbrook and Ibaka along with all those pieces? Its not farfetched to say that they win the title. Of course theres other issues like chemistry etc. that could change all of that.

TheMilkyBarKid
01-27-2014, 01:15 PM
Here's a 16-game sample from Kobe's 05-06 season, from dec 20-jan 27

43 ppg 6 rpg 4 apg on 46/38/86 shooting and 59%TS

KD's is pretty close, but Kobe had a much worse roster around him.
Having a worse roster would tend to inflate the stats :facepalm

andgar923
01-27-2014, 01:17 PM
Kobe with no big men= 1st round loss

ImKobe
01-27-2014, 01:18 PM
Having a worse roster would tend to inflate the stats :facepalm

go away, troll.

ImKobe
01-27-2014, 01:20 PM
Kobe had nothing close to what Durant had. Even bench players like Lamb and Reggie are an upgrade. Imagine Westbrook and Ibaka along with all those pieces? Its not farfetched to say that they win the title. Of course theres other issues like chemistry etc. that could change all of that.

Reggie Jackson would arguably be the 2nd best player on the 06 Laker squad.

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 01:22 PM
Having a worse roster would tend to inflate the stats :facepalm

Okay so by that logic, Durant is a ball hog because he can pass to his superior teammates.

Joyner82reload
01-27-2014, 01:26 PM
Here's a 16-game sample from Kobe's 05-06 season, from dec 20-jan 27

43 ppg 6 rpg 4 apg on 46/38/86 shooting and 59%TS

KD's is pretty close, but Kobe had a much worse roster around him.

Or how about an example from 02-03 Kobe during his hottest stretch in 16 games:

from 6th Feb - 11th March

37.9 ppg 5.4 rpg 4.4 apg 2.5 spg 0.8 bpg on 47/40/83 shooting, at 24 years of age.

You're literally choosing a completely random sample during the year. We are talking about literally the ONLY TIME prime Durant has played without a second option. This isn't cherry-picked, there is no other data.

KG215
01-27-2014, 01:33 PM
Okay so by that logic, Durant is a ball hog because he can pass to his superior teammates.
He's averaging 6 assists per game and 22 FGA/game since Westbrook's injury.

What a ballhog.

PJR
01-27-2014, 01:35 PM
How about another scenario,

Put current Durant on the 2005 Lakers, do they still miss the playoffs?

Doubt it.

tpols
01-27-2014, 01:35 PM
Kobe with no big men= 1st round loss
Thunder are the second best rebounding team in the league, have the 3rd best defense and have the league's best shotblocker.:oldlol:

TheMilkyBarKid
01-27-2014, 01:39 PM
Reggie Jackson would arguably be the 2nd best player on the 06 Laker squad.
Lamar odom?? Try harder troll

aj1987
01-27-2014, 01:40 PM
Are people really trying to say that current Durant is better than '06 Kobe? :facepalm

tpols
01-27-2014, 01:40 PM
People really underesimate how good defenders and rebounders Durants teammates are.

Ibaka, Perkins, Sefolosha, and Westbrook are all elite defensive players and rebounders for their positions. Ibaka and Perkin's strengths are strictly rebounding and interior defense. Sefolosha is only in the league for his defense. They rebound and defend as a team at an elite level.

Look up Kobe's 06 and 07 teams defense... its terrible. They had subpar defenders at nearly every position. This Thunder team does not. And they have a much better player than Lamar Odom in WB.


Only thing that could stop it is chemistry issues but the talent would still be overwhelming.

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 01:47 PM
People really underesimate how good defenders and rebounders Durants teammates are.

Ibaka, Perkins, Sefolosha, and Westbrook are all elite defensive players and rebounders for their positions. Ibaka and Perkin's strengths are strictly rebounding and interior defense. Sefolosha is only in the league for his defense. They rebound and defend as a team at an elite level.

Look up Kobe's 06 and 07 teams defense... its terrible. They had subpar defenders at nearly every position. This Thunder team does not. And they have a much better player than Lamar Odom in WB.


Only thing that could stop it is chemistry issues but the talent would still be overwhelming.

Future rep :applause:

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 01:48 PM
How about another scenario,

Put current Durant on the 2005 Lakers, do they still miss the playoffs?

Doubt it.

Durant makes playoffs while Kobe wins 4 rings with the Thunder :bowdown:

PJR
01-27-2014, 01:48 PM
What exactly is the point of this thread?

No version of Kobe would put the current Thunder in any better position to win then current Durant, who has had a sensational season thus far.

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 01:50 PM
What exactly is the point of this thread?

No version of Kobe would put the current Thunder in any better position to win then current Durant, who has had a sensational season thus far.

Many versions of Kobe would make a positive difference to this team :wtf:

Marlo_Stanfield
01-27-2014, 01:50 PM
What joke is this.?? they would win the firs 5 games and then the franchise would be thrown out the league because those two tards would kill each other for hogging the ball:roll: :roll: :roll:

Marlo_Stanfield
01-27-2014, 01:51 PM
Many versions of Kobe would make a positive difference to this team :wtf:
Durant>Kobe:roll: :roll: :roll:

AirTupac
01-27-2014, 03:01 PM
Kevin Durant:



13/14: 50+: 1 - 40-49: 4 (31 ppg)

12/13: 50+: 1 - 40-49: 5

11/12: 50+: 1 - 40-49: 3

10/11: 50+: 0 - 40-49: 5

09/10: 50+: 0 - 40-49: 8 (30.1 ppg)



Kobe Bryant



00/01: 50+: 1 - 40-49: 5

02/03: 50+: 3 - 40-49: 16 (30.0 ppg)

03/04: 50+: 0 - 40-49: 3

04-05: 50+: 0 - 40-49: 10

05-06: 50+: 6 - 40-49: 21 (35.4 ppg)

06-07: 50+: 10 - 40-49: 8 (31 ppg)





Kobe's efficiency, mid-level consistency and other stuff are worse because he had to do more than just scoring for the team. He has been the facilitator ever since he was drafted. He was the defensive anchor in teams that had no actual defensive anchor. He was basically the player that defined his team's success even with Shaq. He was more than just a 'scorer', YET he performed like this. I can't imagine him sharing the court with an actual PG that he can go to war with and rim protectors like Ibaka - Perkins. (not to mention other role players)

Quoted from another site :applause:

Milbuck
01-27-2014, 03:03 PM
:facepalm How quickly people forget how good prime Kobe was

prime Kobe and Westbrook would arguably be the GOAT backcourt

freshperry
01-27-2014, 03:06 PM
kobe and westbrook with talent alone would atleast make it to the western conference finals... but dont act like it would be automatic championships. If you take out durant, the SF position becomes very thin for the Thunder and if LBJ/Paul george make it to the finals, whos going to guard them?

HoopsFanNumero1
01-27-2014, 03:07 PM
Kobe without elite big man = first round exit at best.

Milbuck
01-27-2014, 03:11 PM
kobe and westbrook with talent alone would atleast make it to the western conference finals... but dont act like it would be automatic championships. If you take out durant, the SF position becomes very thin for the Thunder and if LBJ/Paul george make it to the finals, whos going to guard them?
Yeah, but then you have a solid 3 man front court rotation of Ibaka/Adams/Collison. It's not like it'd just be Kobe and Russ. And you also have Lamb and Jackson for that spark off the bench.

Yeah, yeah, the Thunder don't have Boris Diaw. But prime Kobe could do a good job, and Thabo is serviceable.

red1
01-28-2014, 01:19 PM
swapping kd with prime kobe would not improve this team

Mr. Jabbar
01-28-2014, 01:20 PM
10-peat anyone?

GOATbe
01-28-2014, 01:23 PM
Easy finals wins. 6 peat imminent

AirTupac
01-28-2014, 01:25 PM
10-peat anyone?

Kobe wouldn't retire and play baseball so its quite possible. Westbrook would be a top 15 player of all time because of how many championships he wins with 10ringsbe.

SilkkTheShocker
01-28-2014, 01:28 PM
They lose in the first round

red1
01-28-2014, 01:33 PM
Kobe wouldn't retire and play baseball so its quite possible. Westbrook would be a top 15 player of all time because of how many championships he wins with 10ringsbe.
I cant see westbrook and kobe getting along. If shaq and kobe cant get along while winning rings then how are these guys going to play together while losing in the finals/wcf every year?