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TonyMontana
01-27-2014, 07:23 PM
Not more skilled. Not more talented. Tougher.

The coaches do not give the players handjobs and are tough on them similar to NFL coaches. The play is much more physical. Much more contact is allowed.

Again, please don't interpret this as the Euroleague being more talented. It is simply a tougher league to play in, both physically and mentally.

There is a reason why every NBA player that is past their prime goes to the CHINA league instead of the Euroleague. NBA players are for the most part mentally weak and China caters to them even more than the NBA teams do. They can dominate weak competition and be worshiped. None of these older ex NBA players ever dare go to the Euroleague and theres a reason for that. They are going to have to work harder than they ever did in the NBA.

KyrieTheFuture
01-27-2014, 07:32 PM
Euroleague is only tougher because the players have to survive on below minimum wage paychecks since no one watches that shitty league

cos88
01-27-2014, 07:34 PM
op is right as much as i hate agreeing with a phagot of his size.


the top teams in the euroleague and even some middle level teams are tougher and play better defense than 75% of the teams in the league ( most from the no defense west conference ).


and that is the only thing the euroleague is better than nba

TonyMontana
01-27-2014, 07:34 PM
NOBODY ****ING CARES ABOUT THE EUROLEAGUE. It's a vastly inferior league in another country. Stop posting about it. WTF is with you people?

The Toronto Raptors are a vastly inferior team in another country. Do you have a problem with them being discussed as well?

And I made this post because I see lots of ignorant comments like this one bashing the Euroleague when the moron has probably never watched a single game of it. The Euroleague requires toughness. The NBA requires height, long wingspan, and athletisicm. NBA basketball players are probably some of the mentally weakest athletes in any professional sport. Few have been catered to more their entire life and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these guys were never yelled at a single time. They would cry and become an emotional wreck.

Black and White
01-27-2014, 07:36 PM
The Toronto Raptors are a vastly inferior team in another country. Do you have a problem with them being discussed as well?

And I made this post because I see lots of ignorant comments like this one bashing the Euroleague when the moron has probably never watched a single game of it. The Euroleague requires toughness. The NBA requires height, long wingspan, and athletisicm. NBA basketball players are probably some of the mentally weakest athletes in any professional sport. Few have been catered to more their entire life and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these guys were never yelled at a single time. They would cry and become an emotional wreck.

So Jordan was mentally weak?

TonyMontana
01-27-2014, 07:40 PM
So Jordan was mentally weak?

One player represents the thousands that have ever played?

And Jordan was entirely catered to. How do you think he'd respond if Phil Jackson tore him a new asshole in practice? He would most likely start yelling, cursing and storm out of the facility with his middle fingers held up. Where as your average euroleague player would merely accept the criticism and make the suggested changes. Jordan thought he was above the sport and in a way he was right because of the way others put him on a pedetsal.

Sharmer
01-27-2014, 07:40 PM
Common knowledge that Euro league have superior shooting skills.

AnaheimLakers24
01-27-2014, 07:42 PM
op still a f@ggot

JellyBean
01-27-2014, 07:43 PM
Your GoranDragon account got banned so you decided to come back on this one?
:applause:

MavsSuperFan
01-27-2014, 07:44 PM
I have never watched a Euroleague game, so I cant say anything about the accuracy of what you have said, but even if it were true, who cares?

Who watches basketball for toughness? We want to see skill and athleticism. Its like those guys that watch hockey for fighting. Why? I have never understood the appeal. Almost any boxer/mma fighter is better at fighting than the toughest hockey player.

If I want to see a toughness I would watch an MMA or Boxing match.

TonyMontana
01-27-2014, 07:44 PM
I don't give a **** about it because this is the NBA forum. Stop being an idiot.

Then stop thinking it's funny and cool to bash the Euroleague when certain aspects of it require superiority compared to the NBA.

Now the Chinese League where all these ex NBA players go? Now that's a ****ing joke. They go there because they can't handle the Euroleague. If you want to make fun of an alternative basketball league thats a good one.

Black and White
01-27-2014, 07:45 PM
Then stop thinking it's funny and cool to bash the Euroleague when certain aspects of it require superiority compared to the NBA.

Now the Chinese League where all these ex NBA players go? Now that's a ****ing joke. They go there because they can't handle the Euroleague. If you want to make fun of an alternative basketball league thats a good one.

Yep, you are Euroleague, log into your main account

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-27-2014, 07:46 PM
Nah. Euroleague is simply a tier below the NBA, evident by their 10-44 H2H record vs the NBA.

JUDGE WITNESS
01-27-2014, 07:46 PM
Who watches basketball for toughness? We want to see skill and athleticism. Its like those guys that watch hockey for fighting. Why? I have never understood the appeal.


ah yes the "hockey is a mans game and basketball is for girls" crowd

almost exclusively hicks though so its really not a surprise

diamenz
01-27-2014, 07:49 PM
lebron would get man handled in this euro league you speak of.

TonyMontana
01-27-2014, 07:49 PM
I have never watched a Euroleague game, so I cant say anything about the accuracy of what you have said, but even if it were true, who cares?

Who watches basketball for toughness? We want to see skill and athleticism. Its like those guys that watch hockey for fighting. Why? I have never understood the appeal. Almost any boxer/mma fighter is better at fighting than the toughest hockey player.

If I want to see a toughness I would watch an MMA or Boxing match.

The same people who prefer college basketball to the NBA. The NBA turns people away because of how many mentally weak prima donnas there are in it. The only reason they are in the league at all is because of the height, wingspan, athletisicm they were blessed with. Nothing else.

You turn on the Euroleague for comparison and you see humans that your average working class can relate to. Guys who leave it all on the floor. Guys who will work hard. Guys who will do whatever it takes to win. Guys who can accept criticism.

dannywpt
01-27-2014, 07:53 PM
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/582/335/861.jpg

Black and White
01-27-2014, 07:53 PM
The same people who prefer college basketball to the NBA. The NBA turns people away because of how many mentally weak prima donnas there are in it. The only reason they are in the league at all is because of the height, wingspan, athletisicm they were blessed with. Nothing else.

You turn on the Euroleague for comparison and you see humans that your average working class can relate to. Guys who leave it all on the floor. Guys who will work hard. Guys who will do whatever it takes to win. Guys who can accept criticism.

Vassilis is a scrub

aj1987
01-27-2014, 07:54 PM
LeBron is playing in a league, which has weakass mentality?

Sharmer
01-27-2014, 07:57 PM
Euroleague more skilled but slower and less athletic.

MavsSuperFan
01-27-2014, 07:57 PM
ah yes the "hockey is a mans game and basketball is for girls" crowd

almost exclusively hicks though so its really not a surprise
those people are so dumb. Even the toughest hockey player would get wrecked by a bad boxer or MMA fighter

TonyMontana
01-27-2014, 07:58 PM
ah yes the "hockey is a mans game and basketball is for girls" crowd

almost exclusively hicks though so its really not a surprise

Actually Hockey is not popular in the South, so "hicks" typically arn't big NHL fans.


Nah. Euroleague is simply a tier below the NBA, evident by their 10-44 H2H record vs the NBA.

Are those games all "NBA preseason" games?

You do realize those are pointless exhibitions right? And the strength of the Euroleague teams(heart, toughness, will to win) are not attributes that are usually on display in an exhibition. When everyone is just going through the motions it is no surprise at all that the team with taller, longer, and better athletes will win more often than not. I'm not saying the Euroleague teams would win more often than not if the games meant something, but that head to head matchup would be A LOT closer.


those people are so dumb. Even the toughest hockey player would get wrecked by a bad boxer or MMA fighter

And the best, most toughest boxer would get wrecked by a bad hockey player in a game of hockey. Different sports. Different objectives. Who's dumb now?

And I'd put money on the average NHL player beating the shit out of the average NBA player.

Meticode
01-27-2014, 07:58 PM
Reported.

outbreak
01-27-2014, 07:58 PM
so by your logic I guess the leagues down in the congo are tougher than euro league, they have to survive on so much less while still performing. Hell the players who are chosen to go live in basketball camps in china talked about in that yao documentary must be the toughest players in the world with the pressure and discipline their coaches put on them with beatings and forced practices. We should all give up and watch other leagues based on how tough it is? **** the NBA, let's televise the d-league because those guys have to get by on buses and 40k a year!

Black and White
01-27-2014, 08:01 PM
Actually Hockey is not popular in the South, so "hicks" typically arn't big NHL fans.



Are those games all "NBA preseason" games?

You do realize those are pointless exhibitions right? And the strength of the Euroleague teams(heart, toughness, will to win) are not attributes that are usually on display in an exhibition. When everyone is just going through the motions it is no surprise at all that the team with taller, longer, and better athletes will win more often than not. I'm not saying the Euroleague teams would win more often than not if the games meant something, but that head to head matchup would be A LOT closer.



And the best, most toughest boxer would get wrecked by a bad hockey player in a game of hockey. Different sports. Different objectives. Who's dumb now?

And I'd put money on the average NHL player would beat the shit out of your average NBA player.

If the Euroleague is so much tougher then why did V-Span only average 2.7 ppg in the NBA? isn't he the best player in Euroleague?

Heavincent
01-27-2014, 08:01 PM
ah yes the "hockey is a mans game and basketball is for girls" crowd

almost exclusively hicks though so its really not a surprise

Hockey is an objectively tougher sport than basketball.

And lol at the "hicks" part. In North America, hockey is most popular in the North East, and of course, Canada. Those aren't exactly hick locations.

redboy
01-27-2014, 08:03 PM
Your GoranDragon account got banned so you decided to come back on this one?
its amazing how he comes back right after that account is banned. even the way he talks is the same. you'd think you'd at least try to cover it up right...

KyrieTheFuture
01-27-2014, 08:05 PM
Hockey is an objectively tougher sport than basketball.

And lol at the "hicks" part. In North America, hockey is most popular in the North East, and of course, Canada. Those aren't exactly hick locations.
Hockey is extremely popular in upstate new york and non coastal maine and those areas are far more "hick" than anyone would ever expect. They adopted country music and even fly confederate flags, it's very odd.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-27-2014, 08:06 PM
Actually Hockey is not popular in the South, so "hicks" typically arn't big NHL fans.



Are those games all "NBA preseason" games?

You do realize those are pointless exhibitions right? And the strength of the Euroleague teams(heart, toughness, will to win) are not attributes that are usually on display in an exhibition. When everyone is just going through the motions it is no surprise at all that the team with taller, longer, and better athletes will win more often than not. I'm not saying the Euroleague teams would win more often than not if the games meant something, but that head to head matchup would be A LOT closer.

Actually, many EL teams (especially coaches) have been quoted saying these H2Hs are important. VERY important. A huge measuring stick to their teams success. The NBA? Not so much, but talent alone renders them a 44-10 advantage. Just imagine NBA teams going all out and playing their starters ie. like they do in the regular-season/EL teams do? Scary to think about. :eek:

Nikola_
01-27-2014, 08:07 PM
I would like to see nba players performing in one of those loud arenas..

livinglegend
01-27-2014, 08:09 PM
Reported.

reported

aj1987
01-27-2014, 08:10 PM
I would like to see nba players performing in one of those loud arenas..
You mean like this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmRaVaJejiE

JUDGE WITNESS
01-27-2014, 08:10 PM
Hockey is an objectively tougher sport than basketball.

And lol at the "hicks" part. In North America, hockey is most popular in the North East, and of course, Canada. Those aren't exactly hick locations.
:facepalm no kidding?

and you should actually visit the rural areas in the north east

Meticode
01-27-2014, 08:10 PM
reported
Thanks for the honesty.

JUDGE WITNESS
01-27-2014, 08:17 PM
those people are so dumb. Even the toughest hockey player would get wrecked by a bad boxer or MMA fighter
not to mention letting 6'11 270-pound giants slug it out like they do in hockey would possibly result in many deaths

tho i guess hockey being played on skates sort of mitigates the damage done because most of the fights ive seen involved either 1 or both of the players being off balance or having terrible footing

TonyMontana
01-27-2014, 08:19 PM
If the Euroleague is so much tougher then why did V-Span only average 2.7 ppg in the NBA? isn't he the best player in Euroleague?

only playing 8.8 MPG certainly had something to do with it. And you going to act like 23 year old Spanoulis didn't lead a bunch of unknown greek players to a win over USA in 2006? That was a team that consisted of Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade, Gilbert Arenas, Kirk Hinrich, Bruce Bowen, Shane Battier, LeBron James, Chris Bosh, and Dwight Howard.

Spanoulis had 20 points in the game leading his Greek team over a team of NBA All-stars. Don't you find it odd how these NBA teams featuring superstars on the entire roster sometimes struggle to beat these European teams which more often than not are lucky to have a single player who even plays in the NBA?

But that's beside the point. It is well known that Euroleague is less about individualism and more about the team. Obviously Euroleague "stars" do not compare to NBA "stars. For example it is unheard of for a single player to average 20 PPG in the Euroleague. This includes NBA players as well. Their individual statistics are much lower in the Euroleague compared to NBA(assuming they get similar minutes.)

Black and White
01-27-2014, 08:23 PM
only playing 8.8 MPG certainly had something to do with it. And you going to act like 23 year old Spanoulis didn't lead a bunch of unknown greek players to a win over USA in 2006? That was a team that consisted of Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade, Gilbert Arenas, Kirk Hinrich, Bruce Bowen, Shane Battier, LeBron James, Chris Bosh, and Dwight Howard.

Spanoulis had 20 points in the game leading his Greek team over a team of NBA All-stars. Don't you find it odd how these NBA teams featuring superstars on the entire roster sometimes struggle to beat these European teams which more often than not are lucky to have a single player who even plays in the NBA?

But that's beside the point. It is well known that Euroleague is less about individualism and more about the team. Obviously Euroleague "stars" do not compare to NBA "stars. For example it is unheard of for a single player to average 20 PPG in the Euroleague. This includes NBA players as well. Their individual statistics are much lower in the Euroleague compared to NBA(assuming they get similar minutes.)

And its confirmed guys, its Euroleague ^^^^^ nobody else would defend V-Span like that :oldlol:

Too easy to bait him lol

Jameerthefear
01-27-2014, 08:24 PM
holy shit u guys love getting trolled

Le Shaqtus
01-27-2014, 08:27 PM
Top 10 worst thread of all time.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-27-2014, 08:28 PM
And its confirmed guys, its Euroleague ^^^^^ nobody else would defend V-Span like that :oldlol:

Too easy to bait him lol

V-Span is great, an Anthony Parker level player, I just don't see him getting many minutes in the NBA. Too much talent and athleticism. His fundamentals are suspect too. Dude couldn't run basic P&R w/ Houston, part of the reason JVG never gave him PT.

Raymone
01-27-2014, 08:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Ok7U4pO.png

ArbitraryWater
01-27-2014, 08:33 PM
BWAHAHAHA OP makes the most OBVIOUS post similar to Euroleague, It couldnt have been more obvious&identical, yet you all fall for it :roll:

TONY TROLLS YOUR ASSES

KyrieTheFuture
01-27-2014, 08:36 PM
Trolled super hard, and it's not Euroleague. Euroleague uses more CAPS and a lot more weird insults/threats of blocking. I don't think Tony accused anyone of lying so it can't be Euroleague.

TonyMontana
01-27-2014, 08:36 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Ok7U4pO.png

RRR3 last activity: Last Activity: 12-26-2013 11:46 AM

What the **** happened to the guy, did someone make him ragequit the site? That ****er would make 50+ posts every single day.

Black and White
01-27-2014, 08:37 PM
Trolled super hard, and it's not Euroleague. Euroleague uses more CAPS and a lot more weird insults/threats of blocking. I don't think Tony accused anyone of lying so it can't be Euroleague.

Yea this is a good point, Euroleague does swear and threaten and attack locations a lot too.....

CavaliersFTW
01-27-2014, 08:38 PM
Common knowledge that Euro league have superior shooting skills.
^- this guy is just another Ming_7_6 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=316678) alt

Milbuck
01-27-2014, 08:39 PM
Well guys, after I reading through this entire thread, I think it's unanimous. The Euroleague is in fact vastly inferior to the NBA in every facet of the game. Like high school basketball to college basketball. D-League to the NBA.

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 08:41 PM
NOBODY ****ING CARES ABOUT THE EUROLEAGUE. It's a vastly inferior league in another country. Stop posting about it. WTF is with you people?


Another clown American that thinks Europe is a country...........

:facepalm :rolleyes:

Black and White
01-27-2014, 08:43 PM
Another clown American that thinks Europe is a country...........

:facepalm :rolleyes:

My bad, yea TonyMontana didn't use any of these ^^^^^^^ It would have been better if he insulted people

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 08:44 PM
I have never watched a Euroleague game, so I cant say anything about the accuracy of what you have said, but even if it were true, who cares?

Who watches basketball for toughness? We want to see skill and athleticism. Its like those guys that watch hockey for fighting. Why? I have never understood the appeal. Almost any boxer/mma fighter is better at fighting than the toughest hockey player.

If I want to see a toughness I would watch an MMA or Boxing match.

That's funny, because you sure the hell like to talk a lot of shit about it.

Black and White
01-27-2014, 08:46 PM
That's funny, because you sure the hell like to talk a lot of shit about it.

Here, this is for you to jack off over:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jV1zjDzWtWk/SrTBOMNdTnI/AAAAAAAAAl4/MYS1XELPYXI/s400/spanoulis_dt_.jpg

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 08:46 PM
Nah. Euroleague is simply a tier below the NBA, evident by their 10-44 H2H record vs the NBA.

That's with 3 NBA refs, which everyone knows are crooked.

The record is 7-12 with 2 NBA refs and 1 Euroleague ref.

Also, those games are played under NBA rules.

The freaking NBA is too scared shitless to even play a game under FIBA rules.

If it was with 3 FIBA refs and under FIBA rules..............I doubt if NBA would even win 1 game out of 10.

As the OP points out, NBA rules and refs are pansy rules. The NBA players can't play with the same rules and reffing that the Euroleague uses, because they can't deal with the level of physicality it brings. So they have to play with NBA rules and refs.

So what the hell is your point?

Raymone
01-27-2014, 08:49 PM
Fun fact: the 'A' in FIBA originally stood for "Amateur"

Look it up.

TonyMontana
01-27-2014, 08:51 PM
That's with 3 NBA refs, which everyone knows are crooked.

The record is 7-12 with 2 NBA refs and 1 Euroleague ref.

Also, those games are played under NBA rules.

The freaking NBA is too scared shitless to even play a game under FIBA rules.

If it was with 3 FIBA refs and under FIBA rules..............I doubt if NBA would even win 1 game out of 10.

So what the hell is your point?

This is a good point.

The Olympics is similar to the Euroleague rules. Yet the USA who pretty much has the All NBA Team at their disposal finds itself struggling vs individual nations in certain moments... Imagine if an all Europe team could be put together rather than dividing the best European players up throughout the different countries.

Milbuck
01-27-2014, 08:51 PM
Fun fact: the 'A' in FIBA originally stood for "Amateur"

Look it up.
/thread

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 08:53 PM
If the Euroleague is so much tougher then why did V-Span only average 2.7 ppg in the NBA? isn't he the best player in Euroleague?

Because his coach in the NBA is a xenophobe that hates Europeans. He even said it himself that the only European player he ever liked was Dirk.

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 08:55 PM
Hockey is an objectively tougher sport than basketball.

And lol at the "hicks" part. In North America, hockey is most popular in the North East, and of course, Canada. Those aren't exactly hick locations.

There are hicks in every part of the planet.

Black and White
01-27-2014, 08:55 PM
Because his coach in the NBA is a xenophobe that hates Europeans. He even said it himself that the only European player he ever liked was Dirk.

Still doesn't prove he is an NBA level player, he didn't exactly make the most of his minutes did he?

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 08:56 PM
Actually, many EL teams (especially coaches) have been quoted saying these H2Hs are important. VERY important. A huge measuring stick to their teams success. The NBA? Not so much, but talent alone renders them a 44-10 advantage. Just imagine NBA teams going all out and playing their starters ie. like they do in the regular-season/EL teams do? Scary to think about. :eek:

And NBA coaches have said that the NBA sends them nasty letters if they lose games to Euroleague teams and that they get reprimands if they lose those games.

WTF is your point?

Milbuck
01-27-2014, 08:57 PM
Because his coach in the NBA is a xenophobe that hates Europeans. He even said it himself that the only European player he ever liked was Dirk.
Hey Euroleague, have you ever noticed that if you rotate the EL logo counterclockwise 90 degrees it looks like cartoon buttcheeks taking a dump?

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 08:58 PM
I would like to see nba players performing in one of those loud arenas..

Will never happen. Olympiacos and Panathinaikos have been inviting NBA teams to play at SEF and OAKA for years now. The NBA REFUSES.

They absolutely REFUSE to play there.

The freaking hilarious thing is that I heard that the Bucks might come to play in Greece now that Giannis is on the Bucks now, and in his hometown of Athens against.................PANIONIOS............

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-27-2014, 09:01 PM
That's with 3 NBA refs, which everyone knows are crooked.

The record is 7-12 with 2 NBA refs and 1 Euroleague ref.

Also, those games are played under NBA rules.

The freaking NBA is too scared shitless to even play a game under FIBA rules.

If it was with 3 FIBA refs and under FIBA rules..............I doubt if NBA would even win 1 game out of 10.

As the OP points out, NBA rules and refs are pansy rules. The NBA players can't play with the same rules and reffing that the Euroleague uses, because they can't deal with the level of physicality it brings. So they have to play with NBA rules and refs.

So what the hell is your point?

I would say look at the refs foul/non-call differential. The EL referees call everything, it's a running joke during these "preseason" games.

The bottom line, NBA is a staggering 44-10 AND THIS IS WITHOUT REF HELP.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-27-2014, 09:03 PM
And NBA coaches have said that the NBA sends them nasty letters if they lose games to Euroelague teams and that they get reprimands if they lose those games.

WTF is your point?

Once the NBA started "caring" about these international matchups, they've practically been unbeatable. Look at the Olympics.

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 09:03 PM
V-Span is great, an Anthony Parker level player, I just don't see him getting many minutes in the NBA. Too much talent and athleticism. His fundamentals are suspect too. Dude couldn't run basic P&R w/ Houston, part of the reason JVG never gave him PT.

Jeff Van Gundy's offense never once included pick and roll, IDIOT.

Ignore list.

Troll.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-27-2014, 09:09 PM
Jeff Van Gundy's offense never once included pick and roll, IDIOT.

Ignore list.

Troll.

JVG was quoted saying that, not me. Look it up.

SpecialQue
01-27-2014, 09:10 PM
Your GoranDragon account got banned so you decided to come back on this one?

:applause:

215Philly
01-27-2014, 09:15 PM
Jeff Van Gundy's offense never once included pick and roll, IDIOT.

Ignore list.

Troll.
This guy :lol

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 09:16 PM
/thread

So every gold medal the USA won prior to 1992 can be voided.

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 09:16 PM
Still doesn't prove he is an NBA level player, he didn't exactly make the most of his minutes did he?

Yes he did.

Milbuck
01-27-2014, 09:18 PM
Yes he did.
11ppg per 36. oh and 4 turnovers. :bowdown: :bowdown:

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 09:19 PM
I would say look at the refs foul/non-call differential. The EL referees call everything, it's a running joke during these "preseason" games.

The bottom line, NBA is a staggering 44-10 AND THIS IS WITHOUT REF HELP.

And you have never seen one of these games.

Ignore list.

Milbuck
01-27-2014, 09:20 PM
And you have never seen one of these games.

Ignore list.
:roll: your threats mean nothing Tony, you told me I was on your ignore list like 3 days ago and here we are.

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 09:21 PM
Once the NBA started "caring" about these international matchups, they've practically been unbeatable. Look at the Olympics.

If by "caring" you mean rigging it with crooked refs and PEDs, then yeah sure.

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 09:22 PM
JVG was quoted saying that, not me. Look it up.

His offense never once had pick and roll in it.

Your trolling schtick is extremely weak.

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 09:23 PM
11ppg per 36. oh and 4 turnovers. :bowdown: :bowdown:

For being taken in and out of a game every 30 seconds in garbage time once every 2 weeks, that's Jordan like.

knicksman
01-27-2014, 09:34 PM
I have never watched a Euroleague game, so I cant say anything about the accuracy of what you have said, but even if it were true, who cares?

Who watches basketball for toughness? We want to see skill and athleticism. Its like those guys that watch hockey for fighting. Why? I have never understood the appeal. Almost any boxer/mma fighter is better at fighting than the toughest hockey player.

If I want to see a toughness I would watch an MMA or Boxing match.

and what happens to nba right now?It has become shit. if only the talent of nba was merged with euroleague, we would be talking about nba and nfl as top 2 leagues in america instead of top 5.

Black and White
01-27-2014, 09:43 PM
For being taken in and out of a game every 30 seconds in garbage time once every 2 weeks, that's Jordan like.

Truth is, if he really was as good as you say he was then he would have been in that Rockets starting lineup, if people saw him play at the level you claim in practice then there is no way JVG would get away with playing him on limited minutes, just face the truth dude, he really isn't that good.

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 09:45 PM
Truth is, if he really was as good as you say he was then he would have been in that Rockets starting lineup, if people saw him play at the level you claim in practice then there is no way JVG would get away with playing him on limited minutes, just face the truth dude, he really isn't that good.

False.

Van Gundy is a xenophobic asshole that purposely sabotaged his career and it's quite well known that he did that. And did it to numerous other players as well.

You are just a stupid little prick trying to cover up for him.

Black and White
01-27-2014, 09:48 PM
False.

Van Gundy is a xenophobic asshole that purposely sabotaged his career and it's quite well known that he did that. And did it to numerous other players as well.

You are just a stupid little prick trying to cover up for him.

And he was able to do that under the Rockets managements noses??? Please, JVG isn't the only person that watches them play, surely if the management saw how good he was JVG would have been told to play him more.

Euroleague
01-27-2014, 09:49 PM
And he was able to do that under the Rockets managements noses??? Please, JVG isn't the only person that watches them play, surely if the management saw how good he was JVG would have been told to play him more.

He was fired idiot. Your IQ is very, very low.

And Popovich said numerous times that Spanoulis would be a great player in the NBA. Nope, the idiot that has not had one NBA team even offer him a deal in YEARS knows better......

Piss off you clown.

bergs14
01-27-2014, 09:51 PM
:lol

Milbuck
01-27-2014, 09:55 PM
So what's the verdict on Varspilius Spanolis? Do you guys think he'll ever be good enough to make an NBA roster?

JUDGE WITNESS
01-27-2014, 09:56 PM
So what's the verdict on Varspilius Spanolis? Do you guys think he'll ever be good enough to make an NBA roster?
:lol :lol

Black and White
01-27-2014, 09:57 PM
He was fired idiot. Your IQ is very, very low.

And Popovich said numerous times that Spanoulis would be a great player in the NBA. Nope, the idiot that has not had one NBA team even offer him a deal in YEARS knows better......

Piss off you clown.

Why didn't they keep V-Span then, after all JVG got fired right?

Oh and in case you forgot:

http://www.complex.com/sports/2013/06/the-25-worst-foreign-players-in-nba-history/vassilis-spanoulis

Raymone
01-27-2014, 10:01 PM
So what's the verdict on Varspilius Spanolis? Do you guys think he'll ever be good enough to make an NBA roster?

Nope. The NBA is just too europhobic. They'll never pick up european players. Not because he's a shitty player though.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-27-2014, 10:02 PM
His offense never once had pick and roll in it.

Your trolling schtick is extremely weak.

Actually JVG made and narrated an entire DVD set about P&R. IN HOUSTON!
http://www.amazon.com/Championship-Productions-Jeff-Van-Gundy/dp/B008BSE77U

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-27-2014, 10:05 PM
If by "caring" you mean rigging it with crooked refs and PEDs, then yeah sure.

If anything is "rigged", it's EU refs calling cheap fouls against US players. Simply look at the foul/non-calls ratio. Absolutely disgusting. Without these bush-league tactics, I'm not sure EL wins ANY of these matchups vs the NBA.

JUDGE WITNESS
01-27-2014, 10:28 PM
theres a methodical ass whippin takin place in this thread

rhowen4
01-27-2014, 10:31 PM
tounge, plauge, colleauge, vouge, fuuge, rouge, fatiuge, dialouge, intriuge, vauge, epilouge, decalouge, synagouge,

bdreason
01-27-2014, 11:19 PM
MLS is 'tougher' than La Liga.

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 04:43 PM
If anything is "rigged", it's EU refs calling cheap fouls against US players. Simply look at the foul/non-calls ratio. Absolutely disgusting. Without these bush-league tactics, I'm not sure EL wins ANY of these matchups vs the NBA.

You are racist.

Rooster
01-28-2014, 05:42 PM
If anything is "rigged", it's EU refs calling cheap fouls against US players. Simply look at the foul/non-calls ratio. Absolutely disgusting. Without these bush-league tactics, I'm not sure EL wins ANY of these matchups vs the NBA.

This is why Duncan stop playing international basketball. They will let all those hard fouls inside but they will call fouls when you trying to establish position inside or denying it. Tyson Chandler got into foul trouble trying to deny Pau Gasol.

ArbitraryWater
01-28-2014, 05:44 PM
Fun fact: the 'A' in FIBA originally stood for "Amateur"

Look it up.

More like: Lock it up

Rooster
01-28-2014, 05:48 PM
So what's the verdict on Varspilius Spanolis? Do you guys think he'll ever be good enough to make an NBA roster?

Spanoulis: I am the TMac of Europe

Van Gundy: we have the real TMac here , sit your ass down you turnover machine:oldlol:

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 05:50 PM
Spanoulis: I am the TMac of Europe

Van Gundy: we have the real TMac here , sit your ass down you turnover machine:oldlol:

Spanoulis has won 3 club European championships, 1 club world championship, and 1 national team European championship.

T-Mac has never won jack shit.

Stop insulting Spanoulis, one of the greatest winners in basketball, anywhere in the world of the last 15-20 years, by comparing him to one of the greatest losers to ever play the game.

Rooster
01-28-2014, 05:56 PM
Spanoulis has won 3 club European championships, 1 club world championship, and 1 national team European championship.

T-Mac has never won jack shit.

Stop insulting Spanoulis, one of the greatest winners in basketball, anywhere in the world of the last 15-20 years, by comparing him to one of the greatest losers to ever play the game.

Anthony Parker won 3 Euroleague championship:oldlol:

And 3 Euroleague MVP :bowdown: :facepalm :rolleyes:

And he is scrub:rockon:

Compared to TMac:cheers:

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 05:58 PM
Anthony Parker won 3 Euroleague championship:oldlol:

And 3 Euroleague MVP :bowdown: :facepalm :rolleyes:

And he is scrub:rockon:

Compared to TMac:cheers:


LIE

Black and White
01-28-2014, 06:01 PM
Spanoulis has won 3 club European championships, 1 club world championship, and 1 national team European championship.

T-Mac has never won jack shit.

Stop insulting Spanoulis, one of the greatest winners in basketball, anywhere in the world of the last 15-20 years, by comparing him to one of the greatest losers to ever play the game.

Nobody cares about Spanoulis, he couldn't even sniff T-Macs jock strap, he isn't half the player T-Mac was.

Rooster
01-28-2014, 06:04 PM
LIE

An athletic swingman with poise, talent and a knack for winning - especially in the biggest games - Anthony Parker became a superstar by leading Maccabi Tel Aviv to back-to-back Euroleague titles in 2004 and 2005. No team had been able to repeat in more than a generation, and Parker was Maccabi's undisputed leader. He was named Euroleague MVP in the second of those title seasons and the one that followed, becoming the only player so honored in consecutive years. Parker's alley-oop dunks, finesse and good-as-gold mid-range shot turned him into an icon for Maccabi fans, though he was respected for his professionalism as much as he was admired for his talent. Between 2004 and 2006, Parker piled up trophies as double champion, two-time all-Euroleague first-team selecion and Final Four MVP. Parker and Maccabi reached another title game in 2006, just missing on a historic three-peat, but by then their legacy together had been cemented as Parker simply dominated the Euroleague at his peak. He still holds the single-season record for performance index ratings in a season, 2004-05, and had the next-best rating the following one. Parker also hit the second-most free throws in any season all decade and and 2005-06 seasons still rank first and second for the decade.

spacebump
01-28-2014, 06:57 PM
Spanoulis has won 3 club European championships, 1 club world championship, and 1 national team European championship.

T-Mac has never won jack shit.

Stop insulting Spanoulis, one of the greatest winners in basketball, anywhere in the world of the last 15-20 years, by comparing him to one of the greatest losers to ever play the game.

That comparison was by Spanoulis himself though. Are you a better source for Spanoulis comparisons than the man himself?

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 07:01 PM
LIE
He was just barely off. 3x Euroleague champ and 2x MVP.

I think it's safe to say that Devin Ebanks would be a 5x MVP and champ in the EL?

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:08 PM
[QUOTE=Rooster]An athletic swingman with poise, talent and a knack for winning - especially in the biggest games - Anthony Parker became a superstar by leading Maccabi Tel Aviv to back-to-back Euroleague titles in 2004 and 2005. No team had been able to repeat in more than a generation, and Parker was Maccabi's undisputed leader. He was named Euroleague MVP in the second of those title seasons and the one that followed, becoming the only player so honored in consecutive years. Parker's alley-oop dunks, finesse and good-as-gold mid-range shot turned him into an icon for Maccabi fans, though he was respected for his professionalism as much as he was admired for his talent. Between 2004 and 2006, Parker piled up trophies as double champion, two-time all-Euroleague first-team selecion and Final Four MVP. Parker and Maccabi reached another title game in 2006, just missing on a historic three-peat, but by then their legacy together had been cemented as Parker simply dominated the Euroleague at his peak. He still holds the single-season record for performance index ratings in a season, 2004-05, and had the next-best rating the following one. Parker also hit the second-most free throws in any season all decade and and 2005-06 seasons still rank first and second for the decade.

[B]

Black and White
01-28-2014, 07:09 PM
MORON

All you seem to do when you lose arguements is attack people

outbreak
01-28-2014, 07:10 PM
MORON

hows posting facts that back himself up make him a moron :biggums:

The v-span in houston situation was more that he didn't fit into the line up and the system. Pop would have v-span looking great. It's nothing to do with racism though, do you honestly think a coach and management would deliberately limit their team when their teams performance directly impacts whether or not they keep their jobs?

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 07:11 PM
All you seem to do when you lose arguements is attack people
That's his shtick. Overly aggressive Euroleague troll. I think he's really good at it, but sometimes he gets lazy like we're seeing lately in this thread.

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:11 PM
Nobody cares about Spanoulis, he couldn't even sniff T-Macs jock strap, he isn't half the player T-Mac was.

No, he isn't. He's much, much, much better. You are right.

Black and White
01-28-2014, 07:12 PM
That's his shtick. Overly aggressive Euroleague troll. I think he's really good at it, but sometimes he gets lazy like we're seeing lately in this thread.

He is just really boring now lol

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:13 PM
He was just barely off. 3x Euroleague champ and 2x MVP.

I think it's safe to say that Devin Ebanks would be a 5x MVP and champ in the EL?

He wasn't a 3x Euroleague champion idiot.

Black and White
01-28-2014, 07:13 PM
No, he isn't. He's much, much, much better. You are right.

Peak T-Mac is in a different galaxy, V-Span looks like a kindergarten player compared to him

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:13 PM
All you seem to do when you lose arguements is attack people

You have never won an argument in this thread.

outbreak
01-28-2014, 07:14 PM
He wasn't a 3x Euroleague champion idiot.
he is a 2 time like was posted in the correction which you ignored

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 07:14 PM
He wasn't a 3x Euroleague champion idiot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Parker

Look under career highlights and awards.

You're wrong Tony.

Black and White
01-28-2014, 07:15 PM
You have never won an argument in this thread.

Nobody would agree with you when you say V-Span > T-Mac, so I think I won that arguement

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:15 PM
That comparison was by Spanoulis himself though. Are you a better source for Spanoulis comparisons than the man himself?

As Spanoulis said to a Greek newspaper, he was talking about having the ball in his hands and running an offense. That's all. It was not a player comparison.

Van Gundy, T-Mac, and anyone else saying anything to the contrary, took that OUT OF CONTEXT.

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 07:16 PM
What's Varspilius up to right now? Is he still working towards cracking an NBA roster?

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:18 PM
hows posting facts that back himself up make him a moron :biggums:

He said he won 3 Euroleague MVPs and 3 Euroleague championships, then he posted something he copied and pasted showing he actually only won 2. Just like I said, he lied. Then you TROLLED as USUAL, saying, he "backed it up with facts".

[B]

outbreak
01-28-2014, 07:19 PM
As Spanoulis said to a Greek newspaper, he was talking about having the ball in his hands and running an offense. That's all. It was not a player comparison.

Van Gundy, T-Mac, and anyone else saying anything to the contrary to that OUT OF CONTEXT.

kind of like how i tried to point out to you that the pistol pete = rubio comparison was about his flashy passing style yet you failed to comprehend that a comparison can be about one aspect or look of a move they do?

outbreak
01-28-2014, 07:20 PM
[QUOTE=Euroleague]He said he won 3 Euroleague MVPs and 3 Euroelague championships, then he posted something he copied and pasted showing he actually only won 2. Just like I said he lied. Then you TROLLED as USUAL saying he "backed it up with facts".

[B]

BrownEye007
01-28-2014, 07:20 PM
You have never won an argument in this thread.
You are one of the only people that I know for sure have never won an argument on this forum. You do a better job of freaking out and going to cry in the corner than most though.

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:22 PM
The v-span in houston situation was more that he didn't fit into the line up and the system. Pop would have v-span looking great. It's nothing to do with racism though, do you honestly think a coach and management would deliberately limit their team when their teams performance directly impacts whether or not they keep their jobs?

Of course it had to with xenophobia and racism. Van Gundy is a xenophobic racist bigot.

outbreak
01-28-2014, 07:23 PM
Of course it had to with xenophobia and racism. Van Gundy is a xenophobic racist bigot.

look out your tin foil hat is slipping off

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:24 PM
Peak T-Mac is in a different galaxy, V-Span looks like a kindergarten player compared to him

Peak T-Mac took the Magic to 19 wins. Peak Spanoulis takes them to an NBA championship.

Actually, they are in a different universe.

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:25 PM
he is a 2 time like was posted in the correction which you ignored

Then why the hell didn't he say 2x? He had to LIE and troll and say 3x.

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:27 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Parker

Look under career highlights and awards.

You're wrong Tony.

My name is not Tony.

He won Euroleague twice idiot. Just as the Euroelague site said, where that troll copied and pasted this from:

[B]

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 07:27 PM
Peak T-Mac took the Magic to 19 wins. Peak Spanoulis takes them to an NBA championship.

Actually, they are in a different universe.
http://replygif.net/i/1126.gif

Le Shaqtus
01-28-2014, 07:28 PM
Peak T-Mac took the Magic to 19 wins. Peak Spanoulis takes them to an NBA championship.

Actually, they are in a different universe.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

This is gold.

outbreak
01-28-2014, 07:29 PM
Then why the hell didn't he say 2x? He had to LIE and troll and say 3x.

because people make mistakes, you just posted orlando won 20 games then when i refreshed it changed to 19. exact same thing. I also like how you ignore the 40 win seasons.

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:30 PM
kind of like how i tried to point out to you that the pistol pete = rubio comparison was about his flashy passing style yet you failed to comprehend that a comparison can be about one aspect or look of a move they do?

Bullshit.

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 07:30 PM
[QUOTE=Euroleague]My name is not Tony.

He won Euroleague twice idiot. Just as the Euroelague site said, where that troll copied and pasted this from:

[B]

duskovujosevic
01-28-2014, 07:30 PM
EL is tougher.

sportjames23
01-28-2014, 07:30 PM
One player represents the thousands that have ever played?

And Jordan was entirely catered to. How do you think he'd respond if Phil Jackson tore him a new asshole in practice? He would most likely start yelling, cursing and storm out of the facility with his middle fingers held up. Where as your average euroleague player would merely accept the criticism and make the suggested changes. Jordan thought he was above the sport and in a way he was right because of the way others put him on a pedetsal.


LOL at this dumb bitch here.

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:31 PM
You are one of the only people that I know for sure have never won an argument on this forum. You do a better job of freaking out and going to cry in the corner than most though.

:confusedshrug:

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 07:33 PM
EL is tougher.
When guys like Anthony Parker are 3x champions and 4x MVPs, I don't think so.

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:34 PM
because people make mistakes, you just posted orlando won 20 games then when i refreshed it changed to 19. exact same thing. I also like how you ignore the 40 win seasons.

It's not a mistake. It's intentional TROLLING and LIES.

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:36 PM
When guys like Anthony Parker are 2x champions and 2x MVPs, I don't think so.

Giannis Antetokounmpo was a role player in Greece's version of the D-League last year. Now he starts for your favorite NBA team.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

You are the most pathetic poster I have ever seen here. Even worse than gabepizza.

duskovujosevic
01-28-2014, 07:36 PM
When guys like Anthony Parker are 3x champions and 4x MVPs, I don't think so.

EL>NBA. It is so obvious. Eat shit and die.

Black and White
01-28-2014, 07:37 PM
Peak T-Mac took the Magic to 19 wins. Peak Spanoulis takes them to an NBA championship.

Actually, they are in a different universe.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

What??? You are clearly the biggest retard on the forum if you think 2.7 ppg in the NBA is better than Peak T-Mac

outbreak
01-28-2014, 07:39 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo was a role player in Greece's version of the D-League last year. Now he starts for your favorite NBA team.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

You are the most pathetic poster I have ever seen here. Even worse than gabepizza.

you do understand how young players do things called "growing up" and "developing"?

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:42 PM
EL>NBA. It is so obvious. Eat shit and die.

I cannot believe this milbuck clown guy that has Miroslav Raduljica (Euro scrub) and Giannis Antetokounmpo, who was a role player in Greek 2nd Division last year, not to mention that he was the 4th to 5th best player on Greece's UNDER 20 national team over the summer..............

playing in the ROTATION

of the Bucks, his NBA team.....................

and this freaking clown is talking shit about the level of the Euroleague.........

words cannot even describe.

:facepalm :rolleyes: :wtf:

Black and White
01-28-2014, 07:42 PM
EL>NBA. It is so obvious. Eat shit and die.

Lol no Euroleague team you could assemble would ever beat an All-NBA team, sorry buddy

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:43 PM
you do understand how young players do things called "growing up" and "developing"?

Oh wow, in a few months he went from being a role player in Greece's D-League, and being the 4th to 5th best player on the under 20 Greek team, to being an NBA starter.........

You need to lay off the drugs.

:biggums:

Either that, or you need to admit that NBA players are doing MASSIVE, MASSIVE, MASSIVE amounts of PEDS.

Black and White
01-28-2014, 07:43 PM
I cannot believe this milbuck clown guy that has Miroslav Raduljica (Euro scrub) and Giannis Antetokounmpo who was a role player in Greek 2nd Division last year, not to mention the 4th to 5th best player on Greece's UNDER 20 nation team over the summer..............

playing in the ROTATION

of the Bucks, his NBA team.....................

and this freaking clown is talking chit about the level of the Euroleague.........

words cannot even describe.

:facepalm :rolleyes: :wtf:

Do you not understand a concept called PLAYER DEVELOPMENT, oh wait, you wouldn't understand it because V-Span is the same scrub today that he was back in the Rockets days.

outbreak
01-28-2014, 07:44 PM
Oh wow, in a few months he went from a role player in Greece's D-League to an NBA starter.........

You need to lay off the drugs.

:biggums:

No but you need to encourage young guys and give them playing time if you think they have potential.

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 07:44 PM
Has Varspilius contacted Giannis for lessons yet? I think if Giannis took Spanny under his wing, he could help him make the NBA.

Black and White
01-28-2014, 07:46 PM
Has Varspilius contacted Giannis for lessons yet? I think if Giannis took Spanny under his wing, he could help him make the NBA.

Nobody can save a sinking ship, not even a player as good as Giannis can.

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:48 PM
Do you not understand a concept called PLAYER DEVELOPMENT, oh wait, you wouldn't understand it because V-Span is the same scrub today that he was back in the Rockets days.

So he went from being a role player at Greek high school level to an NBA starter in a mere matter of a couple months.............

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes:

You are obviously freaking retarded.

Black and White
01-28-2014, 07:50 PM
So he went from being a role player at Greek high school level to an NBA starter in a mere matter of a couple months.............

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes:

You are obviously freaking retarded.

They are giving him playing time for him to develop, he is obviously a better prospect than V-Span, he is almost 6'11, why would you not take a chance on a player like that?

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:50 PM
No but you need to encourage young guys and give them playing time if you think they have potential.

How is the NBA so good if a guy that was a role player in Greece's D-League can start in the NBA?

Seriously?

Just cut the freaking bullshit already.

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 07:50 PM
So he went from being a role player at Greek high school level to an NBA starter in a mere matter of a couple months.............

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes:

You are obviously freaking retarded.
Euroleage please answer my question, I really value and respect your opinion. When is Spanny going to ask Giannis for basketball lessons? I think it would really help him out on his quest to make an NBA roster.

Euroleague
01-28-2014, 07:52 PM
They are giving him playing time for him to develop, he is obviously a better prospect than V-Span, he is almost 6'11, why would you not take a chance on a player like that?

Oh yeah right................the NBA is "so freaking good" and "so vastly superior" that it "gives role players from Greek D-League" time to develop by making them starters.............

Yeah, what an incredibly "superior league".......

Once again, you are amazingly RETARDED.

And once again, you proved you don't know jack shit about anything.

And yes, the NBA is unbelievably freaking OVERRATED.

Black and White
01-28-2014, 07:55 PM
Oh yeah right................the NBA is so "so freaking good" and "so vastly superior" that is "gives role players from Greek D-League" time to develop by making them starters.............

Yeah, what an incredibly "superior league".......

Once again, you are amazingly RETARDED.

And once again, you proved you don't know jack shit about anything.

And yes, the NBA is unbelievably freaking OVERRATED.

You are forgetting one massive factor, what team is Giannis playing for? A tanking team with the worst record in the NBA, of course they are willing to let players develop because the season is lost, but tbh if V-Span was on this team I still don't think he would get starting minutes over Mayo and Knight. At least Giannis will become the Greek player that V-Span couldn't be.

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 08:03 PM
You are forgetting one massive factor, what team is Giannis playing for? A tanking team with the worst record in the NBA, of course they are willing to let players develop because the season is lost, but tbh if V-Span was on this team I still don't think he would get starting minutes over Mayo and Knight. At least Giannis will become the Greek player that V-Span couldn't be.
He already is, the gap is just gonna get bigger and bigger. He's miles better than Varspilius ever was. That's one of the reasons why Giannis is Spanny's biggest childhood idol.

outbreak
01-28-2014, 08:04 PM
You are forgetting one massive factor, what team is Giannis playing for? A tanking team with the worst record in the NBA, of course they are willing to let players develop because the season is lost, but tbh if V-Span was on this team I still don't think he would get starting minutes over Mayo and Knight. At least Giannis will become the Greek player that V-Span couldn't be.

but in 5 years if Giannis is performing well Euroleague will be making threads about how a guy who was in the greek equivalent of the d-league is now an nba star...

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 08:05 PM
but in 5 years if Giannis is performing well Euroleague will be making threads about how a guy who was in the greek equivalent of the d-league is now an nba star...
If he ever tries that **** I will own his soul.

Black and White
01-28-2014, 08:05 PM
He already is, the gap is just gonna get bigger and bigger. He's miles better than Varspilius ever was. That's one of the reasons why Giannis is Spanny's biggest childhood idol.

I'm taking about the way Euroleague put V-Span on a pedestal, would have been an NBA Champion etc, I'm saying Giannis will do all of that down the line, all the things that Euroleague claimed V-Span would have done

Black and White
01-28-2014, 08:07 PM
but in 5 years if Giannis is performing well Euroleague will be making threads about how a guy who was in the greek equivalent of the d-league is now an nba star...

Everybody would roast his delusional ass, but tbh, that will be the only thing he will say, I see it coming unfortunately :(

Go Getter
01-28-2014, 08:11 PM
It's tougher because most of the players are hacks who don't know how to move their feet well.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-28-2014, 08:15 PM
So well ALL agree the NBA is not only a MUCH better league, but tougher as well. I mean, the 44-10 H2H record speaks for itself.

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 08:17 PM
So well ALL agree the NBA is not only a MUCH better league, but tougher as well. I mean, the 44-10 H2H record speaks for itself.
It's been unanimous for quite a while.

Rooster
01-28-2014, 09:10 PM
He wasn't a 3x Euroleague champion idiot.

Parker played with Maccabi for a total of five seasons: from 2000 – 2002, and 2003 – 2006. In those five seasons with Maccabi Parker won five Israeli Championships, five Israeli Cups, and three European Championships (2001, 2004, and 2005). In each of his five seasons with the club, Maccabi reached the European Final Four (and reached the Final four times). He was twice selected Euroleague MVP of the Season (2005, 2006), and was named the MVP of the Euroleague Final Four in 2004.
Parker owns the best career index of all time in the Euroleague with an average of 21.4 index points. He completed his Euroleague career (90 games) with impressive averages of 16.3 points, 5.8 rebounds, 3.2 assists, and 1.6 steals, while compiling excellent shooting percentages from every range – 56% from two, 41% from three, and 82% from the foul line.

Milbuck
01-28-2014, 09:12 PM
[QUOTE=Rooster]Parker played with Maccabi for a total of five seasons: from 2000

Black and White
01-28-2014, 09:13 PM
[QUOTE=Rooster]Parker played with Maccabi for a total of five seasons: from 2000

Rooster
01-28-2014, 09:16 PM
He already is, the gap is just gonna get bigger and bigger. He's miles better than Varspilius ever was. That's one of the reasons why Giannis is Spanny's biggest childhood idol.

He is breaking Greek scoring record in the NBA .:bowdown:

Proving himself against the best players all over the world .:applause:

Greece adopted son has that potential.:rockon:

Nigeria must be proud.:applause:

Audio One
01-28-2014, 10:12 PM
Peak T-Mac took the Magic to 19 wins. Peak Spanoulis takes them to an NBA championship.

Actually, they are in a different universe.

Reported

duskovujosevic
01-29-2014, 03:46 AM
Milbuck is so funny.

Bucks have guys who would play Eurocup this year if they didn't draft/buy these players/ Raduljica and Giannis.

Giannis is in starting 5, while Raduljica is playing solid minutes.

Bucks are Eurocup team :roll:

ihoopallday
01-29-2014, 04:14 AM
Well these athletes make millions of dollars. What kind of coach is going to yell at a star player who makes 3x their salary.

tragicbronson
01-29-2014, 04:41 AM
Well these athletes make millions of dollars. What kind of coach is going to yell at a star player who makes 3x their salary.

Gregg Popovich, or actually any other good coach that wants to win and have some sort of self respect?

gabepizza
01-29-2014, 08:02 AM
Milbuck is so funny.

Bucks have guys who would play Eurocup this year if they didn't draft/buy these players/ Raduljica and Giannis.

Giannis is in starting 5, while Raduljica is playing solid minutes.

Bucks are Eurocup team :roll:

Okay fine. So the worst NBA team (out of 32) is a Eurocup team.
But then take Real Madrid. One of the top 5 Euroleague teams. They have guys who would be NBA back-ups and scrubs.

Fernandez is in the starting 5, while Rodriguez is playing solid minutes.

Real Madrid are a bottom 5 NBA team. :rolleyes:

HarryCallahan
01-29-2014, 09:11 AM
Props to Tony Montana. So many posters took the bait. You people need to go sit in the corner with a pack of crayons.

SexSymbol
01-29-2014, 09:25 AM
TonyMontana is back =.=
Ban that ****** immediately

SexSymbol
01-29-2014, 09:28 AM
Can we just ban Euroleague for good? His lack of intellect can be funny at times, but mostly he's just annoying, because he seems like he actually believes in what he says. Just relieve that boy off his duties for good.

Ancient Legend
01-29-2014, 09:51 AM
Can we just ban Euroleague for good? His lack of intellect can be funny at times, but mostly he's just annoying, because he seems like he actually believes in what he says. Just relieve that boy off his duties for good.

Don't need to ban him, just moving his annoying Euroleague posts to another forum would be sufficient.

SexSymbol
01-29-2014, 10:44 AM
Don't need to ban him, just moving his annoying Euroleague posts to another forum would be sufficient.
Maybe a ban from nba forum is a possible solution?

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:11 PM
Well these athletes make millions of dollars. What kind of coach is going to yell at a star player who makes 3x their salary.

The average salary in the Euroleague is $1.4 million. So that's not an excuse.

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:13 PM
You are forgetting one massive factor, what team is Giannis playing for? A tanking team with the worst record in the NBA, of course they are willing to let players develop because the season is lost, but tbh if V-Span was on this team I still don't think he would get starting minutes over Mayo and Knight. At least Giannis will become the Greek player that V-Span couldn't be.

Oh right, so now the NBA is better because 2/3 of the teams in it LOSE ON PURPOSE..............

right, makes sense.

:facepalm :rolleyes: :biggums:

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:15 PM
Oh right, so now the NBA is better because 2/3 of the teams in LOSE ON PURPOSE..............

right, makes sense.

:facepalm :rolleyes: :biggums:
The Bucks could try to lose against any Euroleague team and still win.

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:16 PM
[QUOTE=Rooster]Parker played with Maccabi for a total of five seasons: from 2000

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:18 PM
:applause:

It never once said he won 3 Euroleague titles, because he didn't. MORON.

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:19 PM
:bowdown:

And where does it say that he won 3 Euroleague titles?

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:20 PM
He is breaking Greek scoring record in the NBA .:bowdown:

Proving himself against the best players all over the world .:applause:

Greece adopted son has that potential.:rockon:

Nigeria must be proud.:applause:


He has a long way to go to break the amount of points that Seikaly and Stojakovic scored in the NBA.

STOP TROLLING.

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:21 PM
And where does it say that he won 3 Euroleague titles?
Why does the number 3 bother you so much? Do you also hate Larry Bird since he also has 3 championships (more valuable, but still)?

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:22 PM
Milbuck is so funny.

Bucks have guys who would play Eurocup this year if they didn't draft/buy these players/ Raduljica and Giannis.

Giannis is in starting 5, while Raduljica is playing solid minutes.

Bucks are Eurocup team :roll:

Milbuck is even more delusional than gabepizza and Dr.J4ever. He is the most delusional NBA only fan I have ever seen in this forum.

The Bucks would be a 2 win team in the Euroleague.

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:25 PM
Okay fine. So the worst NBA team (out of 32) is a Eurocup team.
But then take Real Madrid. One of the top 5 Euroleague teams. They have guys who would be NBA back-ups and scrubs.

Fernandez is in the starting 5, while Rodriguez is playing solid minutes.

Real Madrid are a bottom 5 NBA team. :rolleyes:

The Sixers could barely beat Bilbao, a Eurocup team, and only beat them because Bilbao fouled intentionally at the end of the game (or in NBA terminology - intentionally lost the game).

So that's actually at least 2.

Marlo_Stanfield
01-29-2014, 03:25 PM
Milbuck is even more delusional than gabepizza and Dr.J4ever. He is the most delusional NBA only fan I have ever seen in this forum.

The Bucks would be a 2 win team in the Euroleague.
:applause: :applause:

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:27 PM
Milbuck is even more delusional than gabepizza and Dr.J4ever. He is the most delusional NBA only fan I have ever seen in this forum.

The Bucks would be a 2 win team in the Euroleague.
:roll: :roll: :roll: http://media.tumblr.com/998d5c927f03f2d33a251f5524bb1258/tumblr_inline_mlbf81sDfG1qz4rgp.gif
:yaohappy: :yaohappy: :yaohappy:

Marlo_Stanfield
01-29-2014, 03:28 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: http://media.tumblr.com/998d5c927f03f2d33a251f5524bb1258/tumblr_inline_mlbf81sDfG1qz4rgp.gif
:yaohappy: :yaohappy: :yaohappy:
i would give them between 3-4 wins:roll: :roll: :biggums:

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:29 PM
Euroleage you still haven't answered my question, when is Varspilius planning on going pro with the NBA?

KobesFinger
01-29-2014, 03:29 PM
The Sixers could barely beat Bilbao, a Eurocup team, and only beat them because Bilbao fouled intentionally at the end of the game (or in NBA terminology - intentionally lost the game).

The 14-31 Sixers beat Bilbao who are 5-5?

moe94
01-29-2014, 03:37 PM
Milbuck with the shortest ban in history. Are you Harry?

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:39 PM
Milbuck with the shortest ban in history. Are you Harry?
Who's Harry?

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:39 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: http://media.tumblr.com/998d5c927f03f2d33a251f5524bb1258/tumblr_inline_mlbf81sDfG1qz4rgp.gif
:yaohappy: :yaohappy: :yaohappy:

Bucks regular season Euroleague record............it would be 2-8 in a good group. I think even if they got in a very easy group they would be absolutely LUCKY as hell to go 4-6.

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:40 PM
Bucks regular season Euroleague record............it would be 2-8. I think even if they got in a very easy group they would be absolutely LUCKY as hell to go 4-6.
Euroleague regular season is 10 games? :roll: no wonder they get spanked every time they play NBA teams

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:41 PM
Why does the number 3 bother you so much? Do you also hate Larry Bird since he also has 3 championships (more valuable, but still)?

He can just say the truth. That he won 3 European championships. Why is it so freaking hard for him to state the truth?

Why can't he state the truth?

What he says is bullshit.

It's like calling an NCAA or D-League title an NBA championship.......

You know, because anything won in North America equals an NBA title.......since you know, anything won in Europe must be a Euroleague title.

moe94
01-29-2014, 03:41 PM
Who's Harry?

Harry is a lying bastard and I hope he contracts something soon.

SamuraiSWISH
01-29-2014, 03:42 PM
Mental, and physical toughness started disappearing from the NBA game in the early 2000s with the influx of the babied, coddled, hyped HS talent that was entering the league ata rapid rate. Diluted the product, less intelligence, less skill, less mental toughness. From men to boys. And LMAO @ even insinuating MJ isn't mentally tough.

Black and White
01-29-2014, 03:42 PM
Harry is a lying bastard and I hope he contracts something soon.

Who are you talking about Moe?

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:43 PM
The 14-31 Sixers beat Bilbao who are 5-5?

Bilbao does not play in Euroleague. Another rocket scientist........

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:44 PM
Harry is a lying bastard and I hope he contracts something soon.
Is this that HarryCallahan guy I've been seeing around here? What did he lie about?

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:45 PM
Euroleague regular season is 10 games? :roll: no wonder they get spanked every time they play NBA teams

Yes, and if you had ever seen a Euroleague game even once in your entire life, you would know that. But of course, you don't know that, because you ave never seen a Euroleague game.

Yet you go on and on about it, like you are an expert on the level of it. Because you are a troll and a prick.

Black and White
01-29-2014, 03:45 PM
Is this that HarryCallahan guy I've been seeing around here? What did he lie about?

HarryCallahan is a mental case, just ignore him, haven't seen a more obsessive poster in my time here.

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:46 PM
Bilbao does not play in Euroleague. Another Rocket scientist........

There is no way you can prove that KobesFinger is an actual rocket scientist without factual evidence. Either show it, or stop making false accusations.

That being said, Eurocup/Euroleague is there really a difference? :confusedshrug:

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:47 PM
Yes, and if you had ever seen a Euroleague game even once in your entire life you would know that. But of course, you don't know that, because you ave never seen a Euroleague game.

Yet you go on and on about it, like you are an expert on the level of it. Because you are a troll and a prick.
Still waiting for you to deny the second part of my comment

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:49 PM
HarryCallahan is a mental case, just ignore him, haven't seen a more obsessive poster in my time here.
Thanks for heads up, I'll try to avoid him.

Euroleague
01-29-2014, 03:49 PM
There is no way you can prove that KobesFinger is an actual rocket scientist without factual evidence. Either show it, or stop making false accusations.

That being said, Eurocup/Euroleague is there really a difference? :confusedshrug:

And officially, we have yet another gabepizza alias. So he has Dr.J4ever and Milbuck as alias accounts officially now.

moe94
01-29-2014, 03:51 PM
Is this that HarryCallahan guy I've been seeing around here? What did he lie about?

Said you're his alt.

How come they lifted your ban so quickly? You doing sexual favors for the mods? :coleman:

Black and White
01-29-2014, 03:51 PM
I don't really understand what the debate is here anymore, it's over, only 2 delusional posters think the EL is better than the NBA.

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:52 PM
Said you're his alt.

How come they lifted your ban so quickly? You doing sexual favors for the mods? :coleman:
:wtf: Which thread did he say that in?
No clue lol. Not denying that I would if I could though.

KobesFinger
01-29-2014, 03:54 PM
Bilbao does not play in Euroleague. Another rocket scientist........

It doesn't say anywhere in my post that they do, I simply posted their record which is 5-5.

I'm going to play basketball for 2 hours, I'll be back later to talk more

Milbuck
01-29-2014, 03:54 PM
And officially, we have yet another gabepizza alias. So he has Dr.J4ever and Milbuck as alias accounts officially now.
:oldlol: Euroleage, all you do is
1) insult people
2) accuse them of being alts

Are you ever going to answer the question directly or use actual evidence in your argument?

moe94
01-29-2014, 03:55 PM
And officially, we have yet another gabepizza alias. So he has Dr.J4ever and Milbuck as alias accounts officially now.

This is why EL is one of the GOAT posters. Denying this is asinine. He brings hilarity and he doesn't even try.

spacebump
02-01-2014, 06:20 PM
As Spanoulis said to a Greek newspaper, he was talking about having the ball in his hands and running an offense. That's all. It was not a player comparison.

Van Gundy, T-Mac, and anyone else saying anything to the contrary, took that OUT OF CONTEXT.

link please