When's the last time a NBA player entered the season as the clear cut best player...

[branslowski]

...and end the season as the clear cut 2 best player? Cause rightnow, this is happening to LeBron. Kevin Durant has took over this league IMO, and I'm not even a big fan of his, I'm a Kobe fan saying this. KD for MVP.

[Mr. Jabbar]

wilts grandson will have to step up his game if he wishes to dethrone the king

[navy]

I'm a Kobe fan saying this. KD for MVP.
And this makes you more objective? :oldlol:


The challenger always has to prove they are better. To answer the OP, Always.

[moe94]

2007 Kobe.

[Illuminati]

Well, Kobe was never the clear cut best player in the league. So we don't know if this happened to him.

[red1]

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[secund2nun]

2007 Kobe.

He said best player, not most overrated athlete in modern history.

[Cold soul]

2006 Kobe.

[moe94]

If Durant is the best player in the league today, then how come LeBron wasn't the best since 2008, if we're going by statistical dominance in the regular season?

It's contradicting and a blatant double standard that isn't even good troll material. Kobe fans use stats when it helps them, and disregard it when it doesn't.

[Mr. Jabbar]

If Durant is the best player in the league today, then how come LeBron wasn't the best since 2008, if we're going by statistical dominance in the regular season?

It's contradicting and a blatant double standard that isn't even good troll material. Kobe fans use stats when it helps them, and disregard it when it doesn't.

im not even sure what KD stats are right now, but the eye-test is being dominated, dude takes over games like nothing, game winners included, against elite competition or weak, doesnt matter

[moe94]

im not even sure what KD stats are right now, but the eye-test is being dominated, dude takes over games like nothing, game winners included, against elite competition or weak, doesnt matter

Durant is the best player right now, but not because of the "eye test".

[branslowski]

Durant is the best player right now, but not because of the "eye test".

So you agree with the thread. Why you mad?

[moe94]

So you agree with the thread. Why you mad?

Calling your contradictions is mad now? Is this your substitute for an argument in regards to Kobe? :oldlol:

Some LeBron fans are really mad doe

[Budadiiii]

Durant is the best player right now, but not because of the "eye test".
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[branslowski]

Calling your contradictions is mad now? Is this your substitute for an argument in regards to Kobe? :oldlol:

Some LeBron fans are really mad doe

But what does Kobe have to do with Durant being the best today?

Basically you agree with the topic of the thread, but want to argue about who was the best player in 07'? Why? Only reasonable answer I can come up with is that your salty because a Kobe fan is recongnizing another player as great which is actually something Kobe haters got on Kobe fans for not doing. "Kobe stans only see Kobe, don't even respect other players".....Yet I'm respecting and you mad?

Why is this?

[red1]

But what does Kobe have to do with Durant being the best today?

Basically you agree with the topic of the thread, but want to argue about who was the best player in 07'? Why? Only reasonable answer I can come up with is that your salty because a Kobe fan is recongnizing another player as great which is actually something Kobe haters got on Kobe fans for not doing. "Kobe stans only see Kobe, don't even respect other players".....Yet I'm respecting and you mad?

Why is this?
6-24 doe?

[moe94]

I thought we were talking about your thread title or are you saying this is another thread just to glorify Durant and shit on LeBron? I'm not mad. I thought you had a serious topic here and when Kobe got mentioned, you seem a bit upset. I can say you're mad, too.

Abandon thread. We don't need to go back and forth for no reason, bran.

[YouGotServed]

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[chazzy]

Probably 09 Kobe or 11 Lebron

[DonDadda59]

2007 Kobe, although 'clear cut best player' in that case might be stretching it.

[Heavincent]

Kobe was widely regarded as the best player form 06 to 10.

[Mr. Jabbar]

I thought we were talking about your thread title or are you saying this is another thread just to glorify Durant and shit on LeBron? I'm not mad. I thought you had a serious topic here and when Kobe got mentioned, you seem a bit upset. I can say you're mad, too.

Abandon thread. We don't need to go back and forth for no reason, bran.

thats how you end a post :applause:


bran

[branslowski]

6-24 doe?

Solid post. Is this regarding LeBron's game 2 in 08' playoffs vs Celtics when he shot 6-24 in a loss? This ofcource following a 2-18fg game. Goes on to lose the series.

red1, know who your posting against. Go try your saltiness with subpar minded posters.

[moe94]

Kobe was widely regarded as the best player form 06 to 10.

If Durant is to be considered the best today, then Kobe was not the best since 08. Simple as that. :confusedshrug:

[branslowski]

I thought we were talking about your thread title or are you saying this is another thread just to glorify Durant and shit on LeBron? I'm not mad. I thought you had a serious topic here and when Kobe got mentioned, you seem a bit upset. I can say you're mad, too.

Abandon thread. We don't need to go back and forth for no reason, bran.

Actually I wasn't upset you mentioned Kobe, just wanted to know what exactly you wanted to debate about Kobe. Kobe wasn't clear cut 2nd to LeBron untill 2010-11

[DonDadda59]

Kobe was widely regarded as the best player form 06 to 10.

Coaches and GMs from 2009 called and they're saying "Nah brah" (http://www.basketballforum.com/nba-forum/432625-nba-coaches-gm-poll-lebron-james-best-player-nba.html)

[branslowski]

If Durant is to be considered the best today, then Kobe was not the best since 08. Simple as that. :confusedshrug:

You did it again. Durant being best today has no effect on LeBron being the best in 2010, nor does it make Kobe not the best in his MVP year.:oldlol:

[moe94]

Read your own thread title. At least pretend you care to some extent. ^


Actually I wasn't upset you mentioned Kobe, just wanted to know what exactly you wanted to debate about Kobe. Kobe wasn't clear cut 2nd to LeBron untill 2010-11

Except for LeBron being a better individual player since 08 and by 09, there was absolutely no argument.

I need to understand a word called "consistency"

[Heavincent]

If Durant is to be considered the best today, then Kobe was not the best since 08. Simple as that. :confusedshrug:

It's not about what I think. My opinion doesn't mean shit. I'm just saying what the general consensus was around the league

[branslowski]

Read your own thread title. At least pretend you care to some extent. ^



Except for LeBron being a better individual player since 08 and by 09, there was absolutely no argument.

There was argument. LeBron wasn't clear cut best untill 2010, everyone knows this. Why are you acting stupid rightnow? Being bitter isn't cute.

[moe94]

There was argument. LeBron wasn't clear cut best untill 2010, everyone knows this. Why are you acting stupid rightnow? Being bitter isn't cute.

Maybe not "clear cut", but still the best case for individual player. :coleman:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

A lot of fanbois shrieking over KD's presence. Dude terrifies ALL fan bases. :roll:

[PsychoBe]

[QUOTE=Heavincent]It's not about what I think. My opinion doesn't mean shit. I'm just saying what the general consensus was around the league

[red1]

Solid post. Is this regarding LeBron's game 2 in 08' playoffs vs Celtics when he shot 6-24 in a loss? This ofcource following a 2-18fg game. Goes on to lose the series.

red1, know who your posting against. Go try your saltiness with subpar minded posters.
if kobe is so good then why is he tied with bronzy for fmvps?

[moe94]

A lot of fanbois shrieking over KD's presence. Dude terrifies ALL fan bases. :roll:

Except Jordan, right? :coleman:

I see you.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Except Jordan, right? :coleman:

I see you.

Not gonna lie, as a pure scorer, dude is looking like peak Jordan right now....except with a deadly 3PT shot.

[Ancient Legend]

if kobe is so good then why is he tied with bronzy for fmvps?

This.

Kobe 7 finals played, only 2 Finals MVPS.

[T_L_P]

Tim Duncan went into the '03-'04 season by far the best player (and it wasn't even close). Then Kevin Garnett took the title away from him.

[branslowski]

if kobe is so good then why is he tied with bronzy for fmvps?

Because LeBron ran to a stacked team to win instead of standing by the side of his original team.

You made that too easy. Your honestly starting to bore me. Give me a response worth my, well, response.

[moe94]

Because LeBron ran to a stacked team to win instead of standing by the side of his original team.

You made that too easy. Your honestly starting to bore me. Give me a response worth my, well, response.

Yeah, being a Laker is pure torture. I agree there. Horrific franchise incapable of doing anything.

[branslowski]

Yeah, being a Laker is pure torture. I agree there. Horrific franchise incapable of doing anything.

Being a Laker isn't torture, but watching Kwame Brown and Smush Parker with the basketball in their hands sure was, Kobe could attest.

[red1]

Because LeBron ran to a stacked team to win instead of standing by the side of his original team.

You made that too easy. Your honestly starting to bore me. Give me a response worth my, well, response.
weak answer

[DonDadda59]

A lot of fanbois shrieking over KD's presence. Dude terrifies ALL fan bases. :roll:

Yeah it's pretty funny to watch. Bron fans running scared. Bean fans masquerading as Durant fans because they think that somehow makes Kobe better than Lebron? Then once the KD>Kobe arguments began, Bean fans rallied around their fallen God again.

Pure comedy gold. Old fashioned Chinese fire drill :lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Yeah it's pretty funny to watch. Bron fans running scared. Bean fans masquerading as Durant fans because they think that somehow makes Kobe better than Lebron? Then once the KD>Kobe arguments began, Bean fans rallied around their fallen God again.

Pure comedy gold. Old fashioned Chinese fire drill :lol

While you and I sit back and enjoy the show. hah! KD and Bron have done a pretty decent job picking up Mike's scraps, I must say.

[DonDadda59]

While you and I sit back and enjoy the show. hah! KD and Bron have done a pretty decent job picking up Mike's scraps, I must say.

Yes, let the cheap Chinatown knockoff lovers have their day. Nothing beats the original, genuine article. Should be fun watching on Wednesday though :cheers:

[branslowski]

Yes, let the cheap Chinatown knockoff lovers have their day. Nothing beats the original, genuine article. Should be fun watching on Wednesday though :cheers:

So this is all about Kobe being compared to Jordan with you. I see why your madd bringing up Kobe's name acting like your a psychology teacher.

I say Durant>>LeBron because well, Durant>>LeBron. Accept it a move on...I didn't mention Kobe, why is yawl?

[DonDadda59]

So this is all about Kobe being compared to Jordan with you. I see why your madd bringing up Kobe's name acting like your a psychology teacher.

I say Durant>>LeBron because well, Durant>>LeBron. Accept it a move on...I didn't mention Kobe, why is yawl?

You have no one fooled brah. More transparent than Casper the friendly ghost. Doesn't take a psychology teacher to realize how in denial you are :lol

[branslowski]

You have no one fooled brah. More transparent than Casper the friendly ghost. Doesn't take a psychology teacher to realize how in denial you are :lol

You do know Kobe's about to retire right? You do know I think Bron was the best player in 2010 right? Please tell me what's my goal for typing Durant>>LeBron other than the fact that It's obvious?

I'm not talking about All-Time rankings...

[guy]

Ummm, wouldn't this be last year? What argument was there over Lebron in the beginning of the season and then in the end?