Which 2-guard would you most want on your team?(best SG of all-time?)

[TonyMontana]

Jerry West
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Player Profile
-Great scorer
-elite defender for position
-Best playmaker of the three
-Great rebounder

-Very good athlete
-High character
-very good mid range game
-Three point range unknown most likely not
-Extremely ball dominant
-lots of chokes in the playoffs yet it is unclear how much he was at fault



Michael Jordan
http://www.chicagomag.com/images/2010/0810/C201008-Top-40-Sports-Moments.jpg
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-Great scorer, best in nba history.
-elite defender for position
-Best athlete of the 3
-Awful character and huge ego, could possibly clash with other stars
-Extremely ball dominant
-no three point range
-impact towards winning questionable as Chicago still won 55 games without him.
-Could retire at any moment because he thinks he is bigger than the game.





Ray Allen
http://sportsunbiased.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/ray-allen-sonics-300.jpg
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-Best shooter not just of the three, but NBA history
-Elite off ball capabilities, abilty to thrive in ANY lineup in NBA History
-High character
-Great scorer
-Worst defender of the three
-worst of the three at creating his own shot although he is capable.
-worst athlete of the three

These are the top 3 SGs in NBA History. Which one would you most want on your team? I will make my pick after the thread gets a few repilies, dont want everyone to copy me.

[Boarder Patrol]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

LBJ stans getting desperate.

[GOATbe]

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[branslowski]

I'd take Jordan...You should replace Allen with Rip Hamilton though.

[riseagainst]

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[Bush4Ever]

Kobe is in the top 3, at the very worst.

I know you forgot him by accident, so I thought I would mention that.:D

[NumberSix]

D.Wade

[TonyMontana]

Kobe is in the top 3, at the very worst.

I know you forgot him by accident, so I thought I would mention that.:D

Kobe is excluded for the same reason Reggie Miller is excluded.

He is basically Jordan, but worse in every single attribute(except three point shooting). Only a complete retard would pick Kobe when Jordan is also a choice. Just like only a complete retard would pick Reggie Miller if Ray Allen is a choice.

Kobe brings nothing unique to the table and that is the reason he isn't there.

[LeBron 06]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=302018

[rhowen4]

-Could retire at any moment because he thinks he is bigger than the game.
Nice one, I haven't heard this one before

[Bush4Ever]

Kobe is excluded for the same reason Reggie Miller is excluded.

He is basically Jordan, but worse in every single attribute(except three point shooting). Only a complete retard would pick Kobe when Jordan is also a choice. Just like only a complete retard would pick Reggie Miller if Ray Allen is a choice.

Kobe brings nothing unique to the table and that is the reason he isn't there.

That was actually a pretty creative response. Well done.

[Twiens]

Lance Stephenson

[Milbuck]

OJ Mayo

[Black and White]

DeShawn Stephenson :cheers:

[CeilingFan#1]

Kevin Garnett

[Pushxx]

Jerry West
-Three point range unknown most likely not
-Extremely ball dominant
-lots of chokes in the playoffs yet it is unclear how much he was at fault

WTF? Those are so wrong.

-He averaged 7 assists per game lol.
-He was clutch as hell.
-He definitely had 3-PT range...

[INDI]

Kobe is excluded for the same reason Reggie Miller is excluded.

He is basically Jordan, but worse in every single attribute(except three point shooting). Only a complete retard would pick Kobe when Jordan is also a choice. Just like only a complete retard would pick Reggie Miller if Ray Allen is a choice.

Kobe brings nothing unique to the table and that is the reason he isn't there.

I guess you can call me a retard then cause I'll take Miller over ray any day of the week. And twice on thursday!!!

[Black and White]

Give me Jason Terry, he will help beat LeBron in the finals by outplaying him

[annbafan]

Jordan

[SHAQisGOAT]

Jerry West
Player Profile
-Three point range unknown most likely not
-lots of chokes in the playoffs yet it is unclear how much he was at fault



Michael Jordan
Player Profile
-no three point range
-impact towards winning questionable as Chicago still won 55 games without him.
-Could retire at any moment because he thinks he is bigger than the game.




That alone is enough for a ban in my book, not mentioning Kobe trying to troll goes even way beyond it. (and Allen not even top5 lol)

[INDI]

Kobe is excluded for the same reason Reggie Miller is excluded.

He is basically Jordan, but worse in every single attribute(except three point shooting). Only a complete retard would pick Kobe when Jordan is also a choice. Just like only a complete retard would pick Reggie Miller if Ray Allen is a choice.

Kobe brings nothing unique to the table and that is the reason he isn't there.

And what the heck is unique about west????

Kobe is a better scorer, defender, rebounder, the same clutchness, etc... West might have him in passing.

I agree with you that Kobe is a slightly poor man's Jordan but it doesn't give you the right to say who they want on their team. Some people like to play with or coach people that have good attitudes. Anyway there really is only 2 types of 2 guards that fit the description. 1 slashers 2. 3pt assassins. I just disagree with the limitation on who we would choose

[riseagainst]

If Lebron's on my team, then I'll take Ray Allen to bail him out.

[jzek]

I'd take Nick Young.

[Prometheus]

although the answer might depend on who else is on the roster, in general this is a pretty retarded thread and a sad attempt to deny the fact that mj is by far the best 2 guard to ever play. it pretty much goes:

Jordan





Kobe



Wade
everyone else






this thread would be so much better if it were about any of the other positions. shooting guard is the only one that's so horrendously obvious that you only discredit yourself by doubting it

[Marlo_Stanfield]

if i have another ball dominant player whos better than Jordan imma take West or Allen depending on if my team needs another playmaker(West) or a perfect Shooter(Allen).
If i dont have an even bigger talent like LeBron on my team imma take Jordan every single time expect when i have two star players already where one is ball dominant i might take Allen to prevent Jordan and the other stars killing each other:coleman:

[ArbitraryWater]

And what the heck is unique about west????

Kobe is a better scorer, defender, rebounder, the same clutchness, etc... West might have him in passing.

I agree with you that Kobe is a slightly poor man's Jordan but it doesn't give you the right to say who they want on their team. Some people like to play with or coach people that have good attitudes. Anyway there really is only 2 types of 2 guards that fit the description. 1 slashers 2. 3pt assassins. I just disagree with the limitation on who we would choose


Kobe a better scorer and more clutch? :biggums:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Kobe a better scorer and more clutch? :biggums:
kobetards:roll:
they think kobe is a better scorer than everyone even doe they have better career averages on higher percentages:biggums:

[oarabbus]

Give me Jerry "Mr. Clutch" "The Logo" West

[tragicbronson]

I want Manu

[knicksman]

lebron=wilts long lost son

[TonyMontana]

WTF? Those are so wrong.

-He averaged 7 assists per game lol.
-He was clutch as hell.
-He definitely had 3-PT range...

-If anything having a high number of assists implies one is ball dominant. Point guards, star swingman...these are the guys who put up big assists and they are also the ones who have the ball in their hands all of the time. If you have too many ball dominant players on the roster the talent goes to waste. Only one ball

-Choking as in losing in the Finals almost every year.

-No three point range that I saw. All of his FG attempts are mid range shots or at the rim.


And what the heck is unique about west????

Kobe is a better scorer, defender, rebounder, the same clutchness, etc... West might have him in passing.

I agree with you that Kobe is a slightly poor man's Jordan but it doesn't give you the right to say who they want on their team. Some people like to play with or coach people that have good attitudes. Anyway there really is only 2 types of 2 guards that fit the description. 1 slashers 2. 3pt assassins. I just disagree with the limitation on who we would choose

Jerry West is a combo guard, great athlete, great defender, great scorer, best playmaker. What sets him apart from the others is more or less his ability to thrive as a point guard and he is the best of all three at getting others involved.

Allen is the off-ball shooter that fits on any single team.

And Jordan is the superstar who has the most talent, but also comes with the attitude and highest chance of butting heads with other stars on the roster. Poor spacing as well.

Kobe is irrelevant in this discussion. I am looking for serious basketball discussion and someone that would pick a shittier version of Jordan over actual Jordan is simply an uneducated dickrider.

[talkingconch]

Kobe is excluded for the same reason Reggie Miller is excluded.

He is basically Jordan, but worse in every single attribute(except three point shooting). Only a complete retard would pick Kobe when Jordan is also a choice. Just like only a complete retard would pick Reggie Miller if Ray Allen is a choice.

Kobe brings nothing unique to the table and that is the reason he isn't there.
No one is picking Ray allen or West over Kobe. Retard

[AnaheimLakers24]

earl boykins

[bizil]

Of course its MJ! The question frankly should leave out MJ, Kobe, West, and Wade. Most have them as the 4 GOAT SG's. So excluding those guys, I would take T-Mac. Peak value wise, the only SG's I would take over hime are MJ and Kobe. Due to injuries and longevity, he doesn't stack up to the Big 4 GOAT SG's. But with 7 all NBA teams, 7 All Star games, scoring titles, and over 18,000 points, I think T-Mac has a shot at the HOF down the road. Maybe not first ballot, but somewhere down the road. U never saw a 6'8 SG EVER with his blend of great scoring (which included an epic scoring skillset), passing, and athletic abiilty. It was damn near the closest thing to combining George Gervin with Penny Hardaway.

[JohnFreeman]

Wade

[indiefan24]

Kobe Bryant is the greatest player ever.

I knew it...

[INDI]

Kobe a better scorer and more clutch? :biggums:

If you think a 6'2 unathletic (compared to todays 2 guards) white shooting guard that pkayed in the 60's, will come into todays league and not see a drop in production, I got a bridge in brooklyn to sell you.

Matter of fact lets turn the table.

what do you think kobe would average if he played in the 60's ?????

[Pushxx]

-If anything having a high number of assists implies one is ball dominant. Point guards, star swingman...these are the guys who put up big assists and they are also the ones who have the ball in their hands all of the time. If you have too many ball dominant players on the roster the talent goes to waste. Only one ball

-Choking as in losing in the Finals almost every year.

-No three point range that I saw. All of his FG attempts are mid range shots or at the rim.



- By that logic, Magic, Stockton, and Isiah would have too ball dominant as a negative.

- You clearly have never seen Jerry West's playoff numbers. They are mind-numbing. The dude did not choke.

- "That you saw." What the hell did you "see?" It's well known he had range far beyond the 3-PT line. I'm not going to find articles and interviews, but coaches and players from then and now all corroborate that. His 3-PT range is not a question.

[INDI]

-If anything having a high number of assists implies one is ball dominant. Point guards, star swingman...these are the guys who put up big assists and they are also the ones who have the ball in their hands all of the time. If you have too many ball dominant players on the roster the talent goes to waste. Only one ball

-Choking as in losing in the Finals almost every year.

-No three point range that I saw. All of his FG attempts are mid range shots or at the rim.



Jerry West is a combo guard, great athlete, great defender, great scorer, best playmaker. What sets him apart from the others is more or less his ability to thrive as a point guard and he is the best of all three at getting others involved.

Allen is the off-ball shooter that fits on any single team.

And Jordan is the superstar who has the most talent, but also comes with the attitude and highest chance of butting heads with other stars on the roster. Poor spacing as well.

Kobe is irrelevant in this discussion. I am looking for serious basketball discussion and someone that would pick a shittier version of Jordan over actual Jordan is simply an uneducated dickrider.

Anyone picking ray freakin allen or jerry west over jordan is either 70 years old and biased towards anything nba pre 80's or started watching basketball in the 00's.

open it up for all two guards or its a dumb and irrelevant topic

[JellyBean]

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LOL!! I love it. This is my screensaver. :applause:

[SexSymbol]

Tony, you had all this time while being banned and that's the best you've come up with?
Man, at least you've been cringe-worthy bad in the first place, not it's only unbearable ******ry left in you