Someone please take Aaron Afflalo away from us

[Jameerthefear]

He's too damn good to be on this team. Seriously, he's a fvcking baller.

[red1]

fcking up the tank huh. we'll give you steve novak he should fit right in with with your current plans

[JohnFreeman]

I will give you Thornton

[Jameerthefear]

I want picks :no:

[oarabbus]

Surely he would be of some use to a contender. Afflalo for Sefolosha and a pick?

[BlazerRed]

If Presti is worth a damn he goes after Afflalo. He could be the final piece of the puzzle for OKC (outside of waiting for Perkins contract to expire).

[Black and White]

Sure, you can have a low 1st rounder and Gerald Wallace :cheers:

[Milbuck]

We'll give you Caron Butler

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Who says no?

http://i59.tinypic.com/wmijjm.jpg

[Milbuck]

Who says no?

http://i59.tinypic.com/wmijjm.jpg
The team that's giving up Anthony Davis

[Jameerthefear]

Who says no?

http://i59.tinypic.com/wmijjm.jpg
Just looking at that shit legit stressed me out

[BigMacAttack]

There arent many great 2s in this era and this guy is stuck on a tanking team, so unfair.

Though on a contending team would he of had the oppurtunity to blow up like he has?

[Jameerthefear]

There arent many great 2s in this era and this guy is stuck on a tanking team, so unfair.

Though on a contending team would he of had the oppurtunity to blow up like he has?
The thing is he's such a good shooter so he'd fit anywhere. You can also put him in the low post and his turnaround is unstoppable.

[Black and White]

Just looking at that shit legit stressed me out

Why? You get Davis

[TheReal Kendall]

I wish the Suns would go after him

[HylianNightmare]

i'll even take a prospect and 2nd rounders, i want the guy out of orlando

[LONGTIME]

i'll even take a prospect and 2nd rounders, i want the guy out of orlando

Thabo + Perry Jones and a pick.

[Jameerthefear]

lamb and a pick

[navy]

You idiot. Just fake an injury.

[outbreak]

You idiot. Just fake an injury.

......

why would he fake an injury when he's being show cased as a trade piece?

Your the idiot, don't post unless you know what the **** your commenting on....

[Levity]

if the pistons dont plan on keeping monroe long term, possibly him for afflalo?

big baby would need to be moved for scraps. and then this draft, orlando picks up a legit PG and moves oladipo to a full time 2.

nelson will probably be moved by next season, if not this. he has stepped up his game though. i just dont see him in their long term plans.

so

drafted PG
oladipo
harris
monroe
vuc

brightest future in the nba

[navy]

......

why would he fake an injury when he's being show cased as a trade piece?

Your the idiot, don't post unless you know what the **** your commenting on....

Dont trade him at all. He is that good you should keep him on your roster.

[Levity]

Dont trade him at all. He is that good you should keep him on your roster.

yeah hes good and proved he can be a first option on this team. but they need to move 1 of AA, jameer or big baby in order to fully develop their young guns.

[Jameerthefear]

if the pistons dont plan on keeping monroe long term, possibly him for afflalo?

big baby would need to be moved for scraps. and then this draft, orlando picks up a legit PG and moves oladipo to a full time 2.

nelson will probably be moved by next season, if not this. he has stepped up his game though. i just dont see him in their long term plans.

so

drafted PG
oladipo
harris
monroe
vuc

brightest future in the nba
i don't think we're drafting a pg with our lottery pick. maybe if our pick from denver is high enough we do, but we need to get the best available player with our top 3 pick.

[RIP CITY]

I saw Chad Ford post this trade on Twitter...

Monroe/Stuckey for Afflalo/Harris. As much as I like Monroe I'd be willing to do this trade. Of course, JoeMars should have never traded Afflalo in the first place, moron.

We'd still need to get rid of Josh Smith though, but that's a separate issue.

[Jameerthefear]

I saw Chad Ford post this trade on Twitter...

Monroe/Stuckey for Afflalo/Harris. As much as I like Monroe I'd be willing to do this trade. Of course, JoeMars should have never traded Afflalo in the first place, moron.

We'd still need to get rid of Josh Smith though, but that's a separate issue.
No thanks.

[RightToCensor]

I saw Chad Ford post this trade on Twitter...

Monroe/Stuckey for Afflalo/Harris. As much as I like Monroe I'd be willing to do this trade. Of course, JoeMars should have never traded Afflalo in the first place, moron.

We'd still need to get rid of Josh Smith though, but that's a separate issue.
Monroe will be dealt to Phoenix for 2 First Rounders and Okafor's contract.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

How is Monroe working out at PF?

[El Kabong]

Thabo + Perry Jones and a pick.
Yea, I wouldn't want to give up Lamb or Adams if I were OKC, but any combination of those Thabo/Jones types plus picks is a goer. Thunder also have more than a few trade exceptions to use as well, so they could take Glen Davis for nothing if the Magic really wanted to tank some more and clear salary.

Of course that'd send OKC further into luxury tax territory, so I doubt they'd take the deal.

[RIP CITY]

No thanks.

Not that I disagree with you but what makes you decline the trade? The addition of Harris or do you just not like Monroe?


Monroe will be dealt to Phoenix for 2 First Rounders and Okafor's contract.

We'd have to add a pretty sizable contract to make that trade work and as far as I know Phoenix's Picks are pretty heavily protected. I'll pass.

They can have Josh Smith for Okafor's contract though.

[Jameerthefear]

Not that I disagree with you but what makes you decline the trade? The addition of Harris or do you just not like Monroe?



We'd have to add a pretty sizable contract to make that trade work and as far as I know Phoenix's Picks are pretty heavily protected. I'll pass.

They can have Josh Smith for Okafor's contract though.
addition of harris.

[JohnFreeman]

Thornton + Mclemore for Afflalo?

[RIP CITY]

addition of harris.

Replace Harris with Harkless? Though that makes me alittle more iffy on letting go of Monroe. But I do like Harkless too.

[Jameerthefear]

Thornton + Mclemore for Afflalo?
Nah. Thonton is ass and Mclemore doesn't really have much potential from what I have seen. He'd be a backup behind Oladipo.

[RightToCensor]

Dion Waiters
Sergey Karasev
Cavaliers 2014 1st Rounder (Top 3 Protected)

Kirk Hinrich (expirer)
Mike Dunleavy
Chicago 2014 1st Rounder (Top 10 Protected)

Thabo Sefolosha
Perry Jones III
Hasheem Thabeet
Mavericks 2014 1st Rounder
Thunder 2014 1st Rounder

all straight up for Afflalo. These are ranked in order of which is best for Orlando.

[Smook A.]

Dion Waiters
Sergey Karasev
Cavaliers 2014 1st Rounder (Top 3 Protected)

Kirk Hinrich (expirer)
Mike Dunleavy
Chicago 2014 1st Rounder (Top 10 Protected)

Thabo Sefolosha
Perry Jones III
Hasheem Thabeet
Mavericks 2014 1st Rounder
Thunder 2014 1st Rounder

all straight up for Afflalo. These are ranked in order of which is best for Orlando.

Very niiiice (hodgetwin voice)

[RightToCensor]

We'd have to add a pretty sizable contract to make that trade work and as far as I know Phoenix's Picks are pretty heavily protected. I'll pass.

They can have Josh Smith for Okafor's contract though.
Charlie V and Monroe for Okafor and picks.

Monroe has no need to stay in Detroit long term, might as well get something in return for him, even if it is 2 mid first rounders.

[Jameerthefear]

Replace Harris with Harkless? Though that makes me alittle more iffy on letting go of Monroe. But I do like Harkless too.
Yeah I'd probably do that, but what Henningan really wants is picks. Can Greg play the 4? Because he would just be a backup behind Vucci anyways.

[RIP CITY]

Charlie V and Monroe for Okafor and picks.

Monroe has no need to stay in Detroit long term, might as well get something in return for him, even if it is 2 mid first rounders.

I think we can find a pretty decent deal for Monroe, he has value around the League.

[RIP CITY]

Yeah I'd probably do that, but what Henningan really wants is picks. Can Greg play the 4? Because he would just be a backup behind Vucci anyways.

That's the same problem I see with the deal, first thing I said when I saw Chad Ford post it. Monroe is much better at Center and you already have a young Center and I know Henningan loves him some Draft Picks.

[Joyner82reload]

http://oi61.tinypic.com/nx46zl.jpg

OKC includes Dallas 2014 1st rounder, OKC's 2014 1st rounder, & OKC's 2016 1st rounder

Westbrook/Nelson
Afflalo/Roberson
Durant/Jones III
Ibaka/Collison
Vucevic/Adams

Get it done Presti!

[Jameerthefear]

http://oi61.tinypic.com/nx46zl.jpg

OKC includes Dallas 2014 1st rounder, OKC's 2014 1st rounder, & OKC's 2016 1st rounder

Westbrook/Nelson
Afflalo/Roberson
Durant/Jones III
Ibaka/Collison
Vucevic/Adams

Get it done Presti!
Hell no

[Joyner82reload]

Hell no

Really? Jackson is a future top 15 PG and Lamb is a future top 10 SG

[RightToCensor]

I think we can find a pretty decent deal for Monroe, he has value around the League.
I'm looking at the Trade Machine and I cannot find any trade that better than that Okafor trade.

I'm pretty sure Detroit would like a SF back in return for Monroe, but there just isn't any SF that would make since to trade for Monroe. I'm pretty sure Monroe would like to play and start on a playoff team, but like I said, there really isn't a lot of players worth Monroe's value.

[Jameerthefear]

Really? Jackson is a future top 15 PG and Lamb is a future top 10 SG
Jackson can ball but i don't want perkins. lamb is a good shooter... that's about it. don't see much development beyond that. thabo is ass. so it might as well just be lamb and jackson + picks for Vucci AA and Jameer. Problem is the picks will all be late except Dallas. Not too bad when I look at it that way, but the Magic aren't getting rid of Vucci.

[tpols]

http://oi61.tinypic.com/nx46zl.jpg

OKC includes Dallas 2014 1st rounder, OKC's 2014 1st rounder, & OKC's 2016 1st rounder

Westbrook/Nelson
Afflalo/Roberson
Durant/Jones III
Ibaka/Collison
Vucevic/Adams

Get it done Presti!
Vuvevic and Affalo >> Jeremy Lamb and Reggie Jackson for future potential. SG/C vs two combo guards... Orlando would have to be retarded to do this

[bdreason]

Monroe being drastically underrated in this thread.

[RIP CITY]

I'm looking at the Trade Machine and I cannot find any trade that better than that Okafor trade.

I'm pretty sure Detroit would like a SF back in return for Monroe, but there just isn't any SF that would make since to trade for Monroe. I'm pretty sure Monroe would like to play and start on a playoff team, but like I said, there really isn't a lot of players worth Monroe's value.

I do agree that it is hard to find a trade involving Monroe that returns value and need. I always end up going back to something with ORL, PHX or TOR. That's always assuming that we'd do it to accommodate moving Smith to PF, when I personally want to get rid of Smith ASAP. That's why I wouldn't pigeon hole any trade with Monroe specifically to land a SF.

Detroit needs big changes, that's why I'm not against trading for a player that doesn't fit right now, because we need to move so many guys that it really doesn't matter to me if we have a hole after making 1 or 2 moves. Make moves that add talent, worry about filling the holes later, this team isn't going anywhere this season anyway.

[RightToCensor]

Monroe being drastically underrated in this thread.
Monroe is a very good big. It's just that do teams really want a big who is on the last year of his contract.

Monroe should be traded to a playoff team, if he were to be traded. Thing is, that playoff teams pretty much are set in their frontcourt, and even if they wanted Monroe, his contract is only worth 4 mil. It's hard for Detroit to get back good value on such a low contract.

[oarabbus]

Afflalo to the Kings? Huge upgrade over Thornton.

Isaiah Thomas
Arron Afflalo
Rudy Gay
Jason Thompson/Derrick Williams
Demarcus Cousins


That's a nice team right there.

[El Kabong]

Monroe is a very good big. It's just that do teams really want a big who is on the last year of his contract.

Monroe should be traded to a playoff team, if he were to be traded. Thing is, that playoff teams pretty much are set in their frontcourt, and even if they wanted Monroe, his contract is only worth 4 mil. It's hard for Detroit to get back good value on such a low contract.
The other problem Detroit have also, which is what Bill Simmons pointed out, is Detroit will want a good deal in return for Monroe, but any team who gives up that much isn't going to do it for a rental, they'll be trading for Monroe with the commitment that they do whatever it takes to keep him as a RFA. So that's going to limit the amount of people interested also. You wouldn't want to trade for Monroe thinking "we can re-sign him for 45" and then have to deal with some team offering him 60 as a RFA, which you didn't plan for.

[hahaitme]

Afflalo to the Kings? Huge upgrade over Thornton.

Isaiah Thomas
Arron Afflalo
Rudy Gay
Jason Thompson/Derrick Williams
Demarcus Cousins


That's a nice team right there.

Contenders :rockon:

[bdreason]

Monroe is going to get offered the max in RFA. Whatever that is for a 5th year player.

[Genaro]

Monroe is going to get offered the max in RFA. Whatever that is for a 5th year player.
Would the Pistons match the offer?

[RightToCensor]

The other problem Detroit have also, which is what Bill Simmons pointed out, is Detroit will want a good deal in return for Monroe, but any team who gives up that much isn't going to do it for a rental, they'll be trading for Monroe with the commitment that they do whatever it takes to keep him as a RFA. So that's going to limit the amount of people interested also. You wouldn't want to trade for Monroe thinking "we can re-sign him for 45" and then have to deal with some team offering him 60 as a RFA, which you didn't plan for.
I've been looking at Trade Finder for maybe 20 minutes and I cannot find a place to trade Monroe.

Okafor + picks for Monroe + Charlie V is the only trade that makes sense.

This season, Pistons can start to tank and hope for a top pick in the draft. They can use a shooter like Doug McDermott or a versatile player like James Young.

[Al Thorton]

Afflalo has been extra nice this season, thought it was a showcase for a trade

[RightToCensor]

Monroe is going to get offered the max in RFA. Whatever that is for a 5th year player.
What team would offer him that? Monroe is good, but that contract is way above what he actually produces.

10-13 mil is what is suitable for a player like Greg.

And hell no, the Pistons would not match a max contract.

[HylianNightmare]

I saw Chad Ford post this trade on Twitter...

Monroe/Stuckey for Afflalo/Harris. As much as I like Monroe I'd be willing to do this trade. Of course, JoeMars should have never traded Afflalo in the first place, moron.

We'd still need to get rid of Josh Smith though, but that's a separate issue.


without looking into contracts that looks too good to be true, we don't need afflalo and harris has limited upside anyway

[BlazerRed]

http://oi61.tinypic.com/nx46zl.jpg

OKC includes Dallas 2014 1st rounder, OKC's 2014 1st rounder, & OKC's 2016 1st rounder

Westbrook/Nelson
Afflalo/Roberson
Durant/Jones III
Ibaka/Collison
Vucevic/Adams

Get it done Presti!
This would be OKC's wet dream :lol No way Orlando let go of Vucevic. Especially for those players.

[kurple]

Afflalo + bad contract (Jameer or Big Baby) -4- Faried, Andre Miller, Jordan Hamilton + 2014 first round pick top 12 protected

[treadster]

I'll give you hobe and a 2nd-rounder for affalo.

[DMAVS41]

Vuvevic and Affalo >> Jeremy Lamb and Reggie Jackson for future potential. SG/C vs two combo guards... Orlando would have to be retarded to do this

There is no need for the Magic to trade Vuvevic.

But a Afflalo and Davis salary dump for something like the Dallas pick (from the Thunder), another first round pick from the Thunder, Thabo's expiring contract, Perry Jones, and of course finding a home Glen Davis

That would make sense for both teams. Two first round picks (assuming you can do that in some way with the current CBA), Jones, and a dump of Glen Davis would be a pretty damn good take for a team looking to suck and should have no plans to keep Afflalo long term.

Thunder should jump on this immediately. With Afflalo on this roster...they are a legit championship threat even without Westbrook. With Westbrook they jump to clear favorites to win it all.

Presti is holding on to future assets too tightly in my opinion. He needs to use that Dallas first round pick that everyone agrees is a nice asset to get his team better now.

[kshutts1]

Afflalo and Davis for Boozer and Sacramento's heavily protected pick?

[pegasus]

Afflalo and Davis for Boozer and Sacramento's heavily protected pick?

I'd do it if we knew there's no way we can get Melo by amnestying Boozer in the summer. But I'm sure we would need to throw in at least one more pick.

[Le Shaqtus]

For real, he's wasting his prime with us :(

He'd be a great fit for the Thunder. But we ain't taking Perkins or some shitty trade for Jackson, he ain't even that good.

[kshutts1]

I'd do it if we knew there's no way we can get Melo by amnestying Boozer in the summer. But I'm sure we would need to throw in at least one more pick.
I agree with you that the Magic would ask for another pick, but the Bulls would be silly to do that. Afflalo and Davis, while solid players, "are what they are" at this point. Neither will be a star. Not worth giving up a lot for. So, I'd offer a useful player and a potentially decent pick for them.

But, as I said, I'd expect that to be declined without even being considered.

[Rake2204]

Of course, JoeMars should have never traded Afflalo in the first place, moron.I have to say, I never though Arron Afflalo would end up doing things like this in the NBA. I remember the Pistons dealing him and just being like, "Meh." I was just slightly more concerned about losing Afflalo than I was losing Khris Middleton. I knew Afflalo could defend, but I didn't think he had much in terms of an offensive repertoire. I am wrong a lot.

Interestingly, here's a thread about Arron's trade from Detroit. Barely two pages long: http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=139364

[wang4three]

Afflalo is in a weird spot. He's 28, so he's not exactly a young prospect, but we've seen in the past with good teams, at best he's a high level role player. So teams aren't going to fork over high draft picks for him nor build a team around him. I think realistically the best you can hope for is that a team close to being a contender hands one of their younger chips for him, even though it may not be equal value. Maybe PHX with Bledsoe?

[bluechox2]

we can offer JR smith..perfect for tanking

[Jameerthefear]

we can offer JR smith..perfect for tanking
Hell no

[Levity]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k3q9ehj

i would imagine this benefits ORL more, since theyd be getting a legit starting PG who would look good paired witl Oladipo

if jameer can somehow be added to this trade, perhaps taking perkins contract back, maybe OKC would be more inclined

[veilside23]

afflalo is good but he isnt that great . monroe gets very underrated on this thread. i doubt there would be a team that would let go of top 10 pick for afflalo this year. Its quite amazing that they say mclemore wouldnt improve much. afflalo was just a role player good defender kinda guy when detriot released him now they want something higher than a very young athletic mclemore with pick.
if i am orlando i would trade afflalo for mclemore if am tanking .
maybe get someone else and include nelson on the trade.
mclemore is a rookie for goodness sake he is just turning 21.

[Thunderfan86]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k3q9ehj

i would imagine this benefits ORL more, since theyd be getting a legit starting PG who would look good paired witl Oladipo

if jameer can somehow be added to this trade, perhaps taking perkins contract back, maybe OKC would be more inclined
Horrible trade for us.

[Levity]

Horrible trade for us.

understandable.

but afflalo would help the thunder more than some people choose to admit. he could easily replicate what harden brought to the team while actually playing D.

losing jackson hurts though. but adding perks for jameer works financially. and jameer is a better 3pt shooter and play maker than jackson, but on a worse contract. however, a line up of

jameer
westbrook
afflalo
durant
ibaka

would be pretty good to close out games when the OKC wants to go small. IE finals against miami.

[Le Shaqtus]

we can offer JR smith..perfect for tanking

I would rather eat my own hand.

[RightToCensor]

Dion Waiters
Sergey Karasev
Cavaliers 2014 1st Rounder (Top 3 Protected)

Kirk Hinrich (expirer)
Mike Dunleavy
Chicago 2014 1st Rounder (Top 10 Protected)

Thabo Sefolosha
Perry Jones III
Hasheem Thabeet
Mavericks 2014 1st Rounder
Thunder 2014 1st Rounder

all straight up for Afflalo. These are ranked in order of which is best for Orlando.
I still think these are the best trades for Orlando.

[Le Shaqtus]

I still think these are the best trades for Orlando.

I like the second one best.

Dion is shit so I wouldn't take the top trade.

[Jameerthefear]

those top two teams have no reason to sign AA. he is perfect for a contender/near contender to help get them over the top

[RightToCensor]

those top two teams have no reason to sign AA. he is perfect for a contender/near contender to help get them over the top
Cavs have been wanting to rid Waiters, and lord knows they need a defender in the backcourt. Cavs want to make the playoffs, especially if they want to recruit Lebron (lol).

Bulls can stay competitive in the east, and if the team ends up losing more games, they can tank and keep their pick if they end up with the Top 10 lottery pick.

Imagine Rose/Afflalo/Butler/Boozer/Noah.

[kshutts1]

Cavs are giving up way too much in your proposed trade. Even if they want to get rid of Waiters, that doesn't mean that they will give him away.

They'd be better off "Giving him away" by trading him to the Bulls straight up for Hinrich. That way they don't lose the pick, too.

But to be serious, the Bulls trade is acceptable, but only if Rose is healthy. Without a healthy Rose, the team won't/can't contend. Don't need a 28 yo that is not an all-star caliber player unless they (Bulls) are contending and he would help put them over the top.

[ihatetimthomas]

Clippers should have tried to get Afflalo instead of Redick with Bledsoe. Afflalo does everything better than JJ and he would be the wing defender the Clippers so desperately need.

[Olacinco]

I'd take that cavs trade if they threw in Anthony Bennett

[Joyner82reload]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k3q9ehj

i would imagine this benefits ORL more, since theyd be getting a legit starting PG who would look good paired witl Oladipo

if jameer can somehow be added to this trade, perhaps taking perkins contract back, maybe OKC would be more inclined

0% chance OKC ever trade's Collison. He's the perfect role player and a lifetime Sonic/Thunder

[ihatetimthomas]

0% chance OKC ever trade's Collison. He's the perfect role player and a lifetime Sonic/Thunder

Thats a dumb statement. Of course he would be traded for better. And to be honest, I would trade him if it meant getting Afflalo. He is the perfect compliment to Durant and Westbrook. He will do the dirty work and is a guy who you have to cover.

[HylianNightmare]

still no solid rumors on this?

[Jameerthefear]

still no solid rumors on this?
guess not.