Your thoughts on the Lebron James Vs Kevin Durant match-up tonight

[CelticBaller]

It's official, he's destroying him in both ends

Deal with it.

[Johnny Jones]

Bran is being exposed

[GOATbe]

It's not even debatable now. 25yo KD > Peak Lebron :applause:

[talkingconch]

Durant is scary

[RoseCity07]

We really gonna act like Lebron's teammates didn't abandon him?

[CelticBaller]

We really gonna act like Lebron's teammates didn't abandon him?
Well after bailing him out so many times how much does he want from them?

[Andrei89]

We really gonna act like Lebron's teammates didn't abandon him?

Of course we are. Thats the purpose of this thread.

:roll: :roll:

[Kingwillball]

Durants Teamates set the table for Durant to do his thing tonight as they opened Up lead and Durant could play pressure free.

[tommy3]

Durant obviously outplayed Lebron, but things could have been much different if it weren't for those sloppy passes the Heat made in the third.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Yup. He's been incredible this season.

[Uncle Drew]

http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/177516/flags/LL

KD is the best player in the league. No question marks left.

[russwest0]

Heat fans living in 2012 where they got the most biased officiating ever

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Thunder win the NBA championship this year.


Fisher will hit AT LEAST 2 huge clutch shots in the Finals. Guaransheed it.

[plowking]

Durant obviously outplayed Lebron, but things could have been much different if it weren't for those sloppy passes the Heat made in the third.
Durant did not outplay Bron tonight. They've been right on equal. 3's killed Miami tonight.

[b1imtf]

We really gonna act like Lebron's teammates didn't abandon him?
What goes around comes back around.

[BigMacW.Steeze]

okc > stacked cheat

[BigMacW.Steeze]

Durant did not outplay Bron tonight. They've been right on equal. 3's killed Miami tonight.
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:coleman:
:oldlol:

[imdaman99]

Knicks showed the blueprint to beating them last year... by hitting many 3s.
Get it done, anyone else. Because I know it won't be the Knicks :oldlol:

[plowking]

What goes around comes back around.
:oldlol:

[DonDadda59]

By right of conquest, the Slim Reaper officially owns Lebron's soul. Dude has no heart, but everyone already knew that.

[Thunderstruck]

Durant did not outplay Bron tonight. They've been right on equal. 3's killed Miami tonight.

And turnovers forced by OKC

[plowking]

And turnovers forced by OKC
Yep.

I have no problem with people saying Durant is better, but he didn't outplay Bron tonight.

[CelticBaller]

Durant did not outplay Bron tonight. They've been right on equal. 3's killed Miami tonight.
Denial is sweet

[ispin69]

OKC Thunder are way stacked. If they don't win rings this year, it should hurt their Durant's legacy.

Meanwhile Ray Allen looks old and done 1-4, Battier 1-5, Beasley 1-4, Bosh and Wade have their moments but overall just too inconsistent, Wade is always hurt.

[DFish24]

R.I.P Lebron as NBA's Best Player 2012-13.

[CelticBaller]

OKC Thunder are way stacked. If they don't win rings this year, it should hurt their Durant's legacy.

Meanwhile Ray Allen looks old and done 1-4, Battier 1-5, Beasley 1-4, Bosh and Wade have their moments but overall just too inconsistent, Wade is always hurt.
Yeah, LeBron needs to recruit Love, maybe Curry next offseason

[Trollsmasher]

Durant played better than Bron tonight, but only barely.

He exposed Spo's defensive plan really quickly. That basically won them the game along with some lucky ass shots and Miami's using butter as soap in the shower

[Uncle Drew]

Durant is playing without his soulmate, and yet, he's taking over the league.

[alenleomessi]

33 points on 22 shots is outplaying 34 on 20?

[miller-time]

33 points on 22 shots is outplaying 34 on 20?

Apparently people forget that there are other players on the court, they think it is 1v1 basketball.

[CelticBaller]

33 points on 22 shots is outplaying 34 on 20?
Watch the game instead of jerking off to the boxscore

[Trollsmasher]

LeBron got 2 more points, so he outplayed Durant

[plowking]

Ibaka celebrating like a d!ck. You just know thats gonna be brought up in the other locker room.

[Odinn]

What official for me is LeBron isn't as explosive as his Cavs days any more.

[BuffaloBill]

33 points on 22 shots is outplaying 34 on 20?


lol at this box score watcher. did you even watch the game? :roll:

[alenleomessi]

Watch the game instead of jerking off to the boxscore
yes i did, lamb, ibaka and fisher played out of their minds..

[Leftimage]

Damn this thread is pathetic.

Lebron outplayed Durant, the Thunder outplayed the Heat.

Deal with it fakkits

[juju151111]

Durant played better than Bron tonight, but only barely.

He exposed Spo's defensive plan really quickly. That basically won them the game along with some lucky ass shots and Miami's using butter as soap in the shower
Durant was getting doubled the whole game. Way more defensive focus on him then lebron.

[russwest0]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Heat fans box score scouting to act like LeBron didn't get his ass handed to him.

Had Miami of pulled LeBron in the 4th when the game was over, he wouldn't of gotten those garbage points.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Apparently people forget that there are other players on the court, they think it is 1v1 basketball.

They were pretty even but this game pretty much sealed up the MVP for Durant. Not that he wasn't already in the lead but this game just showed how close they are as players right now.

[rip2]

R.I.P Lebron as NBA's Best Player 2012-13.
:applause:
Moment of silence for him

[Leftimage]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Heat fans box score scouting to act like LeBron didn't get his ass handed to him.

Had Miami of pulled LeBron in the 4th when the game was over, he wouldn't of gotten those garbage points.

Nah, watched the game.

[CelticBaller]

Damn this thread is pathetic.

Lebron outplayed Durant, the Thunder outplayed the Heat.

Deal with it fakkits
No he didn't, Durant was torching him left to right, while LeBron scored his last points in garbage time :coleman:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

What official for me is LeBron isn't as explosive as his Cavs days any more.

That was clear last year in the playoffs.

[russwest0]

LeBron = garbage time GOAT

[bdreason]

Huge sample size.

[plowking]

Damn this thread is pathetic.

Lebron outplayed Durant, the Thunder outplayed the Heat.

Deal with it fakkits
Lebron and Durant both did their thing but neither was a huge influence on the game. Turnovers and the Okc cast was the difference.

[Leftimage]

No he didn't, Durant was torching him left to right, while LeBron scored his last points in garbage time :coleman:

I think delusions may be clouding your memory my friend.

[Trollsmasher]

55 to 45 for KD I would say

Both played each other pretty well one on one, but KD was exposing those double teams all night long while Miami were just ****ing everything up

[plowking]

No he didn't, Durant was torching him left to right, while LeBron scored his last points in garbage time :coleman:

Were they not equal going into the 4th quarter?

[Leftimage]

Oh and KD is a christ-lover too... :rolleyes:

[CelticBaller]

Huge sample size.
Yeah, because his lately scoring outburst, dreamlike stats and destroying bran in his own homecourt isn't enough

[NumberSix]

LeBron: 34 points on 12/20
Durant: 24 points on 10/24

[russwest0]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

LeBron fans bitching about Durant fans looking at just points. Now clinging to it since LeBron surpassed Durant in points by being aggressive in garbage time.

Honestly you're making yourselves look like jokes. Worse than Kobe stans :lol :lol :lol

[Angel Face]

LeBron: 34 points on 12/20
Durant: 24 points on 10/24

http://cdn2.kevinmd.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/salt_0310.jpg

[CelticBaller]

Oh and KD is a christ-lover too... :rolleyes:
and the owner of this site is jewish. what are you trying to say?

[NumberSix]

Oh and KD is a christ-lover too... :rolleyes:
As if there weren't enough reasons for me to hate him.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

As if there weren't enough reasons for me to hate him.

:lol

[BuffaloBill]

http://media.fyre.co/Cujf8W6mTXNFzax0PzPw_1656083_10203092588939745_571 700781_n.jpg

[Wade3]

Durant faced far more defensive pressure than Lebron in this game, doubled everytime he touched the ball which allowed his teammates open looks.


Teams fear Durant more than they fear Lebron.

[Leftimage]

The fact is as follows:

Lebron outplayed Durant from start to finish, with the one notable exception being when KD edged him in their "duel" to end the 3rd.

Now if you want to argue the Thunder have dethroned the Heat as the league's best team, I may go along with that.

In any case, Durant AND Lebron definitely showed up tonight.

Looking forward to their next match-up, hopefully a more competitive contest...

[NumberSix]

Durant faced far more defensive pressure than Lebron in this game, doubled everytime he touched the ball which allowed his teammates open looks.


Teams fear Durant more than they fear Lebron.
And he was also somehow able to score on blocked shots and airballs

[Human Error]

Watch the game instead of jerking off to the boxscore
Watched the game from start to finish and you are an idiot. Durant who shot 4 of 9 from 3 was the one who was dragging down the team's 3 pt fg percentage as his teammates shot 12 of 18 from 3, including 2 uncalled bank shots from Fisher. It's impossible to win a game like this.

[redboy]

i can't believe some of these reactions. how can you honestly say miami is more stacked when Westbrook didn't even play while bosh and wade both played. and come on let's be honest, kd outplayed born tonight. context and the bigger picture are more important than stats

[Leftimage]

and the owner of this site is jewish. what are you trying to say?

Jews thank jesus christ for their accomplishments?

Most of the jews I know are more rational than that..

I'm trying to say promoting your fairy tale beliefs on national TV is gaye

[Trollsmasher]

and the owner of this site is jewish. what are you trying to say?
nope, that would be that Steve guy

[CelticBaller]

The fact is as follows:

Lebron outplayed Durant from start to finish, with the one notable exception being when KD edged him in their "duel" to end the 3rd.

Now if you want to argue the Thunder have dethroned the Heat as the league's best team, I may go along with that.

In any case, Durant AND Lebron definitely showed up tonight.

Looking forward to their next match-up, hopefully a more competitive contest...
https://reserve.usbank.com/pcrcp/images/articles/gm_chart.png

[tpols]

LeBron: 34 points on 12/20
Durant: 24 points on 10/24
This is why stats are misleading.. KD was outplaying bron in all their head to heads, and he was facing more pressure than Bron breaking doubles all night while Bron cherrypicked post opportunities against thabo and other defenders 30+lbs lighter than him:oldlol:

[christian1923]

Lebrons in the phone with melo right now lol

[Leftimage]

https://reserve.usbank.com/pcrcp/images/articles/gm_chart.png

What am I guilty of believing or not believing?

[CelticBaller]

Watched the game from start to finish and you are an idiot. Durant who shot 4 of 9 from 3 was the one who was dragging down the team's 3 pt fg percentage as his teammates shot 12 of 18 from 3, including 2 uncalled bank shots from Fisher. It's impossible to win a game like this.
Everybody and their mothers agree that durant outplayed hi. Get over your man crush and move on :oldlol:

[NumberSix]

Everybody and their mothers agree that durant outplayed hi. Get over your man crush and move on :oldlol:
How?

We really giving Durant the credit for OKC role players erasing Miami's lead while KD was sitting on the bench? We giving Westbrook credit for that too?

[Simple Jack]

This same thing happened 2 years ago when Miami was 35-12, and OKC, 37-12.

Bron went 8-18 17/3/7.
Durant went 11-20 for 28/8.

People overreacted, as they do now, saying the exact same things. Miami went to the finals that year and beat OKC for the chip.

Who knows what will happen this year but overreacting after every single game is retarded. These midseason predictions coming off an overreaction to handful of games have nearly always been wrong; and for good reason.

[KG215]

Durant faced far more defensive pressure than Lebron in this game, doubled everytime he touched the ball which allowed his teammates open looks.


Teams fear Durant more than they fear Lebron.
I don't know if teams necessarily fear Durant more than LeBron (although it's hard to argue otherwise right now), but yes, Durant was facing hard doubles and traps almost every single time he touched the ball. LeBron was great, but he wasn't facing near the defensive pressure Durant faced tonight.

[CelticBaller]

How?

We really giving Durant the credit for OKC role players erasing Miami's lead while KD was sitting on the bench? We giving Westbrook credit for that too?

http://puu.sh/6Dhpn.jpg
:durantunimpressed:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Durant faced far more defensive pressure than Lebron in this game, doubled everytime he touched the ball which allowed his teammates open looks.


Teams fear Durant more than they fear Lebron.

That's what led to all those open three point looks for the Thunder. They should've just sticked with single coverage.

[NumberSix]

I don't know if teams necessarily fear Durant more than LeBron (although it's hard to argue otherwise right now), but yes, Durant was facing hard doubles and traps almost every single time he touched the ball. LeBron was great, but he wasn't facing near the defensive pressure Durant faced tonight.
Probably has a lot to do with Miami only having about 8 proper offensive possessions when they weren't busy throwing to ball out of bounds or passing to OKC players. It's like every Miami player was shocked at the possibility that the ball would be passed to them.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Everybody and their mothers agree that durant outplayed hi. Get over your man crush and move on :oldlol:

No. What most people do agree with is that Durant fully deserves MVP this season.

[Kingwillball]

Lebron fans its not even worth arguing the trolls are gonna spin it anyway they can. The truth the two played to a wash while KD had much more production from his teammates while Lebron did not which explains the Rebound and Assist edge(made shots more assists missed, shots more rebounds) which was not that huge anyway.

[NumberSix]

No. What most people do agree with is that Durant fully deserves MVP this season.
So far, that's true, but you never know what might happen. Even though NYK has been shit, if Melo lead them to a 30-5 record in the last 35 games of the season, they'd probably be idiots and give him the MVP. You never know what dumbass story might pop up after the all-star break.

[pauk]

Lebron had a better scoring/shooting night, KD got more rebs/asts, overall they both played equally well, they did their thing, it went as expected from those two....

As far as the game goes, it was fun until Miami started passing the ball into the stands & fumbling the ball what seemed like forever & bricking wideopen shots, meanwhile OKC was on fire, that combination allowed them to get back from 22-4 down and tie/take the lead (with KD in the bench) and from there the same story continued.... Lamb & Fisher especially were HUGE.... as much carrying KD has been doing this season in order to win, he didnt do that tonight & it was not needed whatsoever, his teammates stepped up dramatically, anybody who attempted a 3 made one and they made alot. Durant could have scored just 17 points tonight and they would have still won...

[HoopsFanNumero1]

So far, that's true, but you never know what might happen. Even though NYK has been shit, if Melo lead them to a 30-5 record in the last 35 games of the season, they'd probably be idiots and give him the MVP. You never know what dumbass story might pop up after the all-star break.

True, there is a lot of basketball left to be played, but Duran't built up quite the lead this season.

[knicksman]

durant instills confidence into his teammates while lebron takes it because of his cancerous game. Thats why he needed superstars to win

[knicksman]

lebron the garbage time hero

[pauk]

durant instills confidence into his teammates while lebron takes it because of his cancerous game. Thats why he needed superstars to win
:facepalm

[dabigbaws]

durant instills confidence into his teammates while lebron takes it because of his cancerous game. Thats why he needed superstars to win

100% true

[chazzy]

get back from 22-4 down and tie/take the lead (with KD in the bench)
You're amazing

[Fudge]

KD's cemented himself as the MVP and best player in the league.

[knicksman]

:facepalm

prove me wrong pauk..

prove me that lebron isnt the same as iverson/arenas/oscar/wilt who were considered cancer by their teammates

[Kingwillball]

KD's cemented himself as the MVP and best player in the league.


Yes to bold but don't get carried away.

[BuffaloBill]

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3930855/KDfire3.gif

[sekachu]

It's official, he's destroying him in both ends

Deal with it.




It looked like MJ destroy Clyde in this game.

[dankok8]

Lebron didn't pad his stats in garbage time. With 3 min left in the 3rd quarter and OKC up by 10 just before they were gonna blow the game open... Durant had 20 points and Lebron had 21. Both scored 13 more in "garbage time".

Honestly I think the 2 played each other to a virtual draw but the Thunder just crushed the Heat.

[CelticBaller]

Yes to bold but don't get carried away.
i thought lebron was going to outplay him :oldlol:

[Jlamb47]

Durant was doubled most of the hame while lebron was being played 1 on 1. Durant still got shots off. Durant outplayed him. yes thunder team played better but Durant still outplayed Lebron. He had more rrebounds and assist as well. And durant did this without westbrook.

[riseagainst]

Durant is officially the best player and has surpassed Lebron as a player.
But dam Derek Fisher.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[SexSymbol]

Durant clearly outplayed LeBron. OKC clearly outplayed MIA.
What's there not to love? This is just another win for classical basketball, for basketball, that's been created by drafting players, by heart, by emotion, not by traitory, lust, greed. OKC symbolizes what basketball is all about, even miami fans should stan for OKC in their match-ups, because if you don't, you're going against basketball as a whole.

[Trollsmasher]

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3930855/KDfire3.gif
this was such a **** you shot

I thought Lebron was going to bring the Heat back, but KD was not having any of it:cry: :applause:

I generally think LeBron played him pretty well on defense. I don't remember Durant getting any easy shots. The problem of course is that right now every shot is "easy" for him

[veilside23]

Lebron fans its not even worth arguing the trolls are gonna spin it anyway they can. The truth the two played to a wash while KD had much more production from his teammates while Lebron did not which explains the Rebound and Assist edge(made shots more assists missed, shots more rebounds) which was not that huge anyway.


lebron needs more help ok ok you've been going at it for quite sometime now... :rolleyes:

[G-Funk]

LeBron = garbage time GOAT
He did that against the Lakers a few times

[All Net]

No like this loss was on Lebron, Miami just threw the ball away too much and couldn't shoot or defend. Couldn't even guard my boy fish.

[G-Funk]

Lebron wins, he carried his team.

Lebron loses his teammates suck.

[sportjames23]

Lebron wins, he carried his team.

Lebron loses his teammates suck.


Essentially.

[Mr Exlax]

Does it bother anybody that KD didn't really guard LeBron? 9 possessions compared to like 26. That's the only thing that bothers me. It irks me cause KD really should be attempting to guard him. Paul George does it every game. KD hasn't since before the Finals. Once he can do that then I'll be satisfied. He doesn't have to succeed. He just has to try. That's all I want to see out the youngster.

[TheGreatDeraj]

Lebron had a better scoring/shooting night, KD got more rebs/asts, overall they both played equally well, they did their thing, it went as expected from those two....

As far as the game goes, it was fun until Miami started passing the ball into the stands & fumbling the ball what seemed like forever & bricking wideopen shots, meanwhile OKC was on fire, that combination allowed them to get back from 22-4 down and tie/take the lead (with KD in the bench) and from there the same story continued.... Lamb & Fisher especially were HUGE.... as much carrying KD has been doing this season in order to win, he didnt do that tonight & it was not needed whatsoever, his teammates stepped up dramatically, anybody who attempted a 3 made one and they made alot. Durant could have scored just 17 points tonight and they would have still won...

:roll: :roll: :roll:

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[leMVP]

Durant did outplay Lebron, But Lebron didn't hold back and went at him.

The main problem Team OKC destroyed Team Heat, Fisher went bananas on us, The Heat didn't hit a 3 in 3+ quarters, this won't happen too often, but the matchup yesterday reminded me of their match in okc last year.

Lebron was hitting his Js, And his team outplayed Durant's team, and ended in a blowout win.

[tmacattack33]

I only saw the second half and KD probably won the head to head match-up in terms of when they went one-on-one.

KD didn't guard Lebron as much as the other way around from what I saw. So I can't say as much about that, but I'd say Lebron had a 50% success rate there.

On the other end, it seemed like KD had about a 60% success rate going against Lebron one-on-one. KD made a 30 foot shot on Lebron and then later missed a 30 foot shot on him...KD scored on him one-on-one a few times, but then also turned the ball over twice against him when he tried a little too hard to beat him off the dribble.

[beastee]

Durant brought it into Bron's house and laid that pipe like Delonte into Gloria :lol

The real story here though was how well the Thunder player when Perkins got benched. Such a better team with him off the floor.

[TheGreatRaptor]

Lebron edges Durant quite a bit. Good thing durants teammates were making everyshot and Durant got a chance to statpad his assist, otherwise Lebron destroys Durant.

[Jasper]

cred above post
What I have seen this year is that Durant is playing lower to the floor , allowing him to be affect on the dribble.

But the glaring fact of last nights game , was that the Heats defense was letting action come to them.

Come playoff time , that won't happen.

If Durant and Lebron truly went at it... remember they are friends
But if Lebron bared down on him , Durant wouldn't even come close in the matchup.

Lebron's defense is very under rated on this board.

[TheGreatRaptor]

cred above post
What I have seen this year is that Durant is playing lower to the floor , allowing him to be affect on the dribble.

But the glaring fact of last nights game , was that the Heats defense was letting action come to them.

Come playoff time , that won't happen.

If Durant and Lebron truly went at it... remember they are friends
But if Lebron bared down on him , Durant wouldn't even come close in the matchup.

Lebron's defense is very under rated on this board.
Respect.:applause:

[Andrei89]

Lebron hasnt been playing any defense this season. However, Jasper, I saw the whole game last night and Lebron really tried to guard Durant and wasn't just fking around.

I would say Durant slightly outplayed Lebron last night. Lebron was not bad either.

The Heat turnovers and the OKC threes is what cost us the game.

[TheGreatRaptor]

Lebron hasnt been playing any defense this season. However, Jasper, I saw the whole game last night and Lebron really tried to guard Durant and wasn't just fking around.

I would say Durant slightly outplayed Lebron last night. Lebron was not bad either.

The Heat turnovers and the OKC threes is what cost us the game.
You forgot to metion lebrons teammate disappearing.:rolleyes: and lol at durant outplaying Lebron.

[Andrei89]

You forgot to metion lebrons teammate disappearing.:rolleyes: and lol at durant outplaying Lebron.

No trolling here.

I said "slightly" outplayed , but outplayed nonetheless. Is not like I am saying Durant is the better player.

[pegasus]

Durant did outplay Lebron and he is the best player now. Lebron played well too, but if it wasn't for his points in garbage time, when he tried harder than he did all game, their stats wouldn't have been close. And the eye test favored Durant too. He put in the work when it mattered.:applause:

[sd3035]

You forgot to metion lebrons teammate disappearing.:rolleyes: and lol at durant outplaying Lebron.


ingles?

[SexSymbol]

You forgot to metion lebrons teammate disappearing.:rolleyes: and lol at durant outplaying Lebron.
lol he destroyed bron 1x1

[HurricaneKid]

As a Heat fan this is a scary game. I take any January game with a grain of salt but they are outclassing Miami at their own game. I thought Miami was just an awful matchup for OKC but I'm starting to think OKC is a bad matchup for Miami. OKC killed them in transition and their active hands turned Miami over far too often. Their defense was swarming and Miami's looked slow on rotations and broken down way too easily.

It's a lot closer than the score would indicate- Fisher is 5/5 from 3 with two banked 3s- but stylistically it's a problem. OKC is now FAR more athletic than Miami and clearly better in transition as well.

Miami mostly played Durant incredibly well in the half court. Outside of the laughable goaltending on his shot in the 1st I don't think he hit a shot in the half court until the 3rd. He really did most of his damage in transition and early in the clock before the D got set. Pretty amazing he put up 33 and was relatively ineffective in the half court, due almost entirely to Miami's heavy shading to his side.

KDs team is A LOT better than LeBron's at this point. The two essentially cancelled each other out and the Thunder just ran over Miami.

[NumberSix]

Miami will mollywhop them @OKC

[SexSymbol]

Remember that KD is still playing with scrubs, he has a top 5 player on the bench, and they're 21-4 if I remember correctly with him.
The best team in the league because of 2,5 guys, it's amazing

[HurricaneKid]

BTW, if anyone still thinks KD is on the same plane as LeBron defensively they didn't watch last night. Thabo, Ibaka, PJ3 are all better defenders than KD. No one on Miami is even close to as good as LeBron.

Do you guys know how hard it is to bank a 25 footer from the side? You not only have to miss a foot long, you need to miss a foot to the side too. Fish did it TWICE.

[AlphaWolf24]

Lebron's 2 year reign is over.

KD at just 25 seems to be able to create more space and open up the floor for his team...better then anyone in the game.

The eye test is clear...KD is the best player in L

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Lebron's 2 year reign is over.

KD at just 25 seems to be able to create more space and open up the floor for his team...better then anyone in the game.

The eye test is clear...KD is the best player in L

*5 year reign

And yes, Durant is currently playing like the best player in the game.

[AlphaWolf24]

*5 year reign

And yes, Durant is currently playing like the best player in the game.


2 year reign...His Horrible post seasons excluded him from being viewed as the #1 player.

and yes....25 year old Durant is better then Peak Lebron

[HoopsFanNumero1]

2 year reign...His Horrible post seasons excluded him from being viewed as the #1 player.

and yes....25 year old Durant is better then Peak Lebron

So Durant has already taken over the league when we're barely just halfway through the season? Shouldn't we wait until the post-season going by your logic?

[TheReturn]

They pretty much cancelled each other out. Which is awesome going forward, I wanna see them compete in the finals.

[HurricaneKid]

Remember that KD is still playing with scrubs, he has a top 5 player on the bench, and they're 21-4 if I remember correctly with him.
The best team in the league because of 2,5 guys, it's amazing

This is the kind of short sighted thinking that is neglecting to acknowledge how good a team KD has around him. Without KD on the floor this team is +6.9pts/100poss. Thats better than Miami has been. Better than the Clippers. This is NOT a one man wrecking crew.

[SexSymbol]

*5 year reign

And yes, Durant is currently playing like the best player in the game.
What 5 year reign? Kobe's obviously the best in 09-10, Dirk in 11, LeBron's reign started in 12, he can continue it this year if he wins.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

What 5 year reign? Kobe's obviously the best in 09-10, Dirk in 11, LeBron's reign started in 12, he can continue it this year if he wins.

You can't just discard the regular season. This is how I've had it:

09: Kobe/Lebron/Wade
10: Kobe/Lebron
11: Dirk/Wade/Lebron
12: Lebron
13: Lebron
14: Durant

Lebron can add himself to the '14 list if he ends up winning a FMVP.

[HurricaneKid]

What 5 year reign? Kobe's obviously the best in 09-10, Dirk in 11, LeBron's reign started in 12, he can continue it this year if he wins.

:facepalm

Kobe was 2nd on his team in PER and WS during the regular season in 09-10. He was 2nd on his team in WS in the postseason. He was 2nd on his team in WS in the Finals. But he was better than the MVP? GTFO.

LeBron has conservatively been the best player on the planet from 08-13.

[aj1987]

So Durant has already taken over the league when we're barely just halfway through the season? Shouldn't we wait until the post-season going by your logic?
Logic and Kobetard? Wait till Durant starts winning a ring. These guys are going to riding some other guy to bring down Durant. Dat insecurity..

[veilside23]

This is the kind of short sighted thinking that is neglecting to acknowledge how good a team KD has around him. Without KD on the floor this team is +6.9pts/100poss. Thats better than Miami has been. Better than the Clippers. This is NOT a one man wrecking crew.


I freaking hate it when i see argument like this.. we get it Lebron needs more help .... without KD even with westbrook OKC is not playoff bound ....

[SexSymbol]

You can't just discard the regular season. This is how I've had it:

09: Kobe/Lebron/Wade
10: Kobe/Lebron
11: Dirk/Wade/Lebron
12: Lebron
13: Lebron
14: Durant

Lebron can add himself to the '14 list if he ends up winning a FMVP.
Since when are legends made in the regular season. You have to prove yourself on the biggest stage. Wade doesn't even have a case for top 3 in 09, he was on a 15 win team, of course he'd put up stats lol.
Kobe's easily the best in 10, really no competition, LeBron quit on his team.
And he's the best in 09, but it's at least closer, tho LeBron wasn't the defender Kobe was, and Kobe won the title in the end, so the answer is pretty obvious. LeBron has no case in 11, Wade was considered a better player by many at the time, Dirk's value to the team was huge bot in reg. season and in PO, since he won against both of those guys, he is the best player that year.
12 and 13 are LeBron.
14 is yet to be determined, greats showed up for the Playoffs not for regular season.

[SexSymbol]

:facepalm

Kobe was 2nd on his team in PER and WS during the regular season in 09-10. He was 2nd on his team in WS in the postseason. He was 2nd on his team in WS in the Finals. But he was better than the MVP? GTFO.

LeBron has conservatively been the best player on the planet from 08-13.
I hope this is a joke, because if not, you know nothing about basketball dude.

[KirbyPls]

2 year reign...His Horrible post seasons excluded him from being viewed as the #1 player.

and yes....25 year old Durant is better then Peak Lebron

Classic Kobetard. :facepalm

[moe94]

Classic Kobetard. :facepalm

Joke being that if it were true, peak Durant > peak Kobe, but he'd never admit it.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Since when are legends made in the regular season. You have to prove yourself on the biggest stage. Wade doesn't even have a case for top 3 in 09, he was on a 15 win team, of course he'd put up stats lol.
Kobe's easily the best in 10, really no competition, LeBron quit on his team.
And he's the best in 09, but it's at least closer, tho LeBron wasn't the defender Kobe was, and Kobe won the title in the end, so the answer is pretty obvious. LeBron has no case in 11, Wade was considered a better player by many at the time, Dirk's value to the team was huge bot in reg. season and in PO, since he won against both of those guys, he is the best player that year.
12 and 13 are LeBron.
14 is yet to be determined, greats showed up for the Playoffs not for regular season.

So then what's the point of the regular season then? Why watch it at all? It might not be important to you but I take it into consideration when deciding who the best player(s) were for that season. Playoffs are definitely more important to me but I'm not gonna just toss out all the effort a player puts in during the regular season.

[SexSymbol]

So then what's the point of the regular season then? Why watch it at all? It might not be important to you but I take it into consideration when deciding who the best player(s) were for that season. Playoffs are definitely more important to me but I'm not gonna just toss out all the effort a player puts in during the regular season.
I actually miss out of quite a few games in the regular season, as they don't really offer anything in the long run. PO's are where it's all at, and where greats make the name for themselves, regular season is for melos of the world

[LaserEater]

Classic Kobetard. :facepalm

He's right...LeBron's reign is just two years old. You have to be a winning factor in the post season to be dominant. Until 2012...he sucked in the PO's.

On the other hand, to call it Durant's reign, he needs to win it all. If the Heat goes for the 3peat, this is still LeBron's league.

[Mr. Jabbar]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/839/nypq.png (https://imageshack.com/i/nbnypqp)

[BlackVVaves]

BTW, if anyone still thinks KD is on the same plane as LeBron defensively they didn't watch last night. Thabo, Ibaka, PJ3 are all better defenders than KD. No one on Miami is even close to as good as LeBron.

Do you guys know how hard it is to bank a 25 footer from the side? You not only have to miss a foot long, you need to miss a foot to the side too. Fish did it TWICE.

If you think Thabo or Ibaka are better defenders than KD this season, then last night was clearly the first time you've watched the Thunder this season.

Half of defense is effort. Regardless of if LeBron has the tools to be a better defender, point is KD has had a MUCH bigger impact defensively than Bron this year. This is Bron's worse year thusfar defensively since he's been in Miami, while KD has steadily progressed as a defender every year.

[TheMan]

Yep.

I have no problem with people saying Durant is better, but he didn't outplay Bron tonight.
And yet you think LBJ > MJ:oldlol:

[moe94]

He's right...LeBron's reign is just two years old. You have to be a winning factor in the post season to be dominant. Until 2012...he sucked in the PO's. .

Do you enjoy talking directly out of your ass?

28/9/7 on 47% in the playoffs

He was just awful. :rolleyes:

[G-Funk]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/839/nypq.png (https://imageshack.com/i/nbnypqp)
It's official

[SexSymbol]

Do you enjoy talking directly out of your ass?

28/9/7 on 47% in the playoffs

He was just awful. :rolleyes:
He quit on his team in 10, didnt try at all on defense in 09, got his ass handed to him in 08 by pierce, choked in 07 PO, missed two POs before.

[GOATbe]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/839/nypq.png (https://imageshack.com/i/nbnypqp)
:applause:

[DJ Leon Smith]

Since when are legends made in the regular season. You have to prove yourself on the biggest stage. Wade doesn't even have a case for top 3 in 09, he was on a 15 win team, of course he'd put up stats lol.
Kobe's easily the best in 10, really no competition, LeBron quit on his team.
And he's the best in 09, but it's at least closer, tho LeBron wasn't the defender Kobe was, and Kobe won the title in the end, so the answer is pretty obvious. LeBron has no case in 11, Wade was considered a better player by many at the time, Dirk's value to the team was huge bot in reg. season and in PO, since he won against both of those guys, he is the best player that year.
12 and 13 are LeBron.
14 is yet to be determined, greats showed up for the Playoffs not for regular season.

You're right, legends are made in the 2011 NBA Finals.

[HurricaneKid]

I freaking hate it when i see argument like this.. we get it Lebron needs more help .... without KD even with westbrook OKC is not playoff bound ....

You are wrong. Period.

[SexSymbol]

You're right, legends are made in the 2011 NBA Finals.
Dont forget G5-6 2010.

[Ancient Legend]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/839/nypq.png (https://imageshack.com/i/nbnypqp)

The Slim Reaper has an inverted left hand.

[HurricaneKid]

I hope this is a joke, because if not, you know nothing about basketball dude.



Wade doesn't even have a case for top 3 in 09, he was on a 15 win team, of course he'd put up stats lol.


The irony here is amazing.

I hate it when I finally recognize that I am arguing with 12 year olds online.

[SexSymbol]

The irony here is amazing.

I hate it when I finally recognize that I am arguing with 12 year olds online.
You seem to lack knowledge of the game and lower yourself down to personal insults. Please gather some info on how things happen and why they happen on the court and then come back to me.

[HurricaneKid]

If you think Thabo or Ibaka are better defenders than KD this season, then last night was clearly the first time you've watched the Thunder this season.

Half of defense is effort. Regardless of if LeBron has the tools to be a better defender, point is KD has had a MUCH bigger impact defensively than Bron this year. This is Bron's worse year thusfar defensively since he's been in Miami, while KD has steadily progressed as a defender every year.

I have watched A LOT of OKC. KD is getting much better at utilizing his length defensively to contest shots and play iso D. He is awful in rotations and needs to improve his team defense a lot. Stats back this a ton as well. The problem is team defense and the ability to support your teammates by shading them to match their opponent's strengths are far more important to the bottom line that stopping your guy in ISOs, especially when you aren't ever guarding the opposition's best player.

I have been quite disappointed in LBJs defensive commitment this year. To be fair, KD's defense impact has been overstated as well though. OKC is far better defensively with KD on the bench.

[HurricaneKid]

You seem to lack knowledge of the game and lower yourself down to personal insults. Please gather some info on how things happen and why they happen on the court and then come back to me.

Miami won 42 games in 09. Not 15. Wade led the league in scoring avg 30.2ppg on .491 from the field with a TS% of .574. He also avg 7.5reb, 5 asst, 2.2 Stl and 1.3Bl. Think about that. We have a thread for people who go 30/5/5 and he AVG 30/8/5.

And I couldn't possibly explain the complexities of the game to a 12 yr old.

[moe94]

You seem to lack knowledge of the game and lower yourself down to personal insults. Please gather some info on how things happen and why they happen on the court and then come back to me.

You are insane if you think peak Wade wasn't even a top 3 player. I'm sorry but there are no words for that. :oldlol:

[LaserEater]

He quit on his team in 10, didnt try at all on defense in 09, got his ass handed to him in 08 by pierce, choked in 07 PO, missed two POs before.

Winning > Stats

Being clutch > Stats

Not playing like a scared ass ***** > Stats

[Solefade]

You seem to lack knowledge of the game and lower yourself down to personal insults. Please gather some info on how things happen and why they happen on the court and then come back to me.

bro you just started watching NBA basketball like last year

[Professor Griff]

The Heat supporting cast just didn't really provide any scoring production. It was a fun match-up but a pretty boring game. When the high scorer outside of the big 3 is Chris Andersen with 8 points, then you know it's going to be a pretty ugly game for Miami.

[chips93]

the heat supporting cast was bad, but the ball movement by the heat overall was poor.

lebron got suckered into trying to beat kd one on one, too often, instead of just playing his own game, and getting his teammates going.

the thunder defense was pretty good too

[SamuraiSWISH]

Thoughts:

LeBron at times played great defense on KD. He's been lazy for much of the year, but he hunkered down on multiple possessions against KD. Durant ususally just hit a tough, amazing shot.

KD continually, borderline annoyingly has a pattern of how he dribbles. He dribbles, hop steps and either crosses or double crosses to usually set up a jump shot. It's one of the reasons Bron was able to knock the ball out his hands a few times.

Wade played good, but didn't shoot near enough. I thought he took a mental note of KD's "show me, don't tell me" comment? He could've been much better.

The 3rd quarter showdown was fun. Would've liked to have seen more of it through out the game. Miami constantly was doubling KD though, trying to force the ball out his hands.

Final thoughts, I'd really love to see the sequel of these two in the NBA Finals in June.

[Megabox!]

Can't hate on these 2 guys, they gave the basketball world a show last night. That being said OKC as a team just played better. It's crazy seeing 2 guys who are so much better than everyone else go at each other, hope these 2 battle it out in the finals again :applause:

[AirTupac]

Whackass moderators shut down my thread

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[HoopsFanNumero1]

Whackass moderators shut down my thread

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What I get from this is that Lebron took the responsibility of guarding a lot more than Durant did. Also, if you watched the game you'll see Lebron plays better defense without fouling.

[AirTupac]

What I get from this is that Lebron took the responsibility of guarding a lot more than Durant did. Also, if you watched the game you'll see Lebron plays better defense without fouling.

Or Durant abused and shook him

[NumberSix]

Whackass moderators shut down my thread

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That's actually pretty good defense by both. Holding the other guy to settling for long jumpers.

[All Net]

Whackass moderators shut down my thread

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It doesn't need It's own thread. We already have too many Durant/Lebron threads as it is.

[AirTupac]

It doesn't need It's own thread. We already have too many Durant/Lebron threads as it is.

Lmao I was kidding :cheers:

[SexSymbol]

You are insane if you think peak Wade wasn't even a top 3 player. I'm sorry but there are no words for that. :oldlol:
Peak wade was top 3 easily, it's just that I don't think 09 was his peak.

[All Net]

Lmao I was kidding :cheers:

:pimp:

[moe94]

Peak wade was top 3 easily, it's just that I don't think 09 was his peak.

It was, though. :biggums:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I don't think 09 was his peak.

Yes it was. That's the year Wade >> Kobe ever was.

[TheMan]

Lebrons in the phone with melo right now lol
No, LeBron gonna join KD in OKC.

[pegasus]

So then what's the point of the regular season then? Why watch it at all? It might not be important to you but I take it into consideration when deciding who the best player(s) were for that season. Playoffs are definitely more important to me but I'm not gonna just toss out all the effort a player puts in during the regular season.
The regular season is for a lot of things, but determining the best player on the planet is not one of them. If Durant chokes or quits in the playoffs, I wouldn't call him the best either.

[MASH Transit]

What I get from this is that Lebron took the responsibility of guarding a lot more than Durant did. Also, if you watched the game you'll see Lebron plays better defense without fouling.


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[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

'09 Wade torching the inferior '09 Kobe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXYSj-iVxw

[G-Funk]

Whackass moderators shut down my thread

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DURANT 53%

LEBRON 33%


NOT ONLY DID SLIM BUST HIS ASS ON OFFENSE, HE ALSO LOCKED HIS ASS UP ON THE OTHER END.

[Joyner82reload]

That's actually pretty good defense by both. Holding the other guy to settling for long jumpers.

That's not good defense on Durant right now. He's shooting over 58 eFG% from 16 feet on this year. His shooting is otherworldly and when he misses, it's rim outs.

Durant can actually limit LeBron, he has the foot quickness to keep him from getting wide open layups and can contest his jumper. I'm not sure why Brooks didn't keep Durant on James last night, it wasn't fouls. Durant only committed 1 foul on James.

[Gugulugu]

DURANT 53%

LEBRON 33%


NOT ONLY DID SLIM BUST HIS ASS ON OFFENSE, HE ALSO LOCKED HIS ASS UP ON THE OTHER END.

Disgusting post.

33% on 6 shots. Are you kidding me :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

So, if Dirk will guard Kobe for 1 shot and Kobe misses,can I make a post saying Kobe shot 0%.



Kind Regards,

Spatziruuu

[G-Funk]

'09 Wade torching the inferior '09 Kobe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXYSj-iVxw

35 ON 52% :applause:

BUT KOBE BUSTED WADE FOR 33 ON 67%
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-24a9grOgY

[AlphaWolf24]

O got to admit...I was hella Hyped.

and LBJ / Durant came through....

very cool to see Durant go at Lebron, KD hitting Crossover's and J's....then LBJ came right back.

reminded of the great battles in the 80's....or MJ vs Frobe.....Kobe vs young Lebron, the few times that Kobe ( when he wasn't hurt) was playing Lebron....the only problem was Lebron didn't really guard Kobe until the 4th...while Kobe was guarding Lebron all game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgmrJi1Q06c&feature=player_detailpage#t=712

:banana: :banana: :banana:

Durant was very Kobesque last night.