Harrison Barnes or Terrence Ross ?

[Legends66NBA7]

Who is having the better sophomore season ?

Feel free to give your explanations.

[Smook A.]

The dude who had 51 points

[215Philly]

Rozay :bowdown:

[kaiteng]

Yeah, we just how explosive Ross can be. We don't really see anything spectacular off Barnes yet.

[Legends66NBA7]

I'd like Bcogswell thoughts on this. He's kept track of both players for a while.

[noob cake]

Ross can create his own shot. I'll have to take him over Barnes due that one fact.

[Al Thorton]

I really think the Iggy signing is a shame for Barnes, I think it's great for the warriors but really stunted Barnes' growth. can't argue with 50 point game though

[oarabbus]

Ross' 50 point game was VERY impressive but didn't y'all see Barnes in the playoffs last season? He may not be anywhere near the shooter but he's bigger, stronger, a better defender, and still has lots of upside. Ross proved his upside but it's not a landslide like people are making it out to be.

[Legends66NBA7]

Ross' 50 point game was VERY impressive but didn't y'all see Barnes in the playoffs last season? He may not be anywhere near the shooter but he's bigger, stronger, a better defender, and still has lots of upside. Ross proved his upside but it's not a landslide like people are making it out to be.

No doubt Barnes had a better rookie year than Ross. This thread is debating on who is having the better sophomore year. I do think it's very close between both of them.

When you say Barnes is the better defender, in what ways ? Man to man ? Help defense ? Gambler ? Any notable defensive performances this year from Barnes ?

For Ross, defensively, he's done a fantastic job on Paul George (twice) and Kevin Durant. He recently locked up Joe Johnson and Aaron Afflalo too. His footwork and recovery on defense is impressive. I think he can be a good shot blocking wing in this league.

[macmac]

Ross' 50 point game was VERY impressive but didn't y'all see Barnes in the playoffs last season? He may not be anywhere near the shooter but he's bigger, stronger, a better defender, and still has lots of upside. Ross proved his upside but it's not a landslide like people are making it out to be.

Barnes is definitely not a better defender than Ross

[oarabbus]

No doubt Barnes had a better rookie year than Ross. This thread is debating on who is having the better sophomore year. I do think it's very close between both of them.

When you say Barnes is the better defender, in what ways ? Man to man ? Help defense ? Gambler ? Any notable defensive performances this year from Barnes ?

For Ross, defensively, he's done a fantastic job on Paul George (twice) and Kevin Durant. He recently locked up Joe Johnson and Aaron Afflalo too. His footwork and recovery on defense is impressive. I think he can be a good shot blocking wing in this league.


Barnes is definitely not a better defender than Ross



:cheers:

I gotta come clean I didn't know all that about Ross' defense. After reading that Ross gets the nod, Barnes hasn't had any major notable performances but he's also been buried behind Iggy. I think he still has a lot of potential on that end.

[plowking]

Barnes is definitely not a better defender than Ross

I'd argue that. I honestly think Barnes is one of the best defenders in the league already. Go watch the Spurs series from last season, and the dude was just making key stops everywhere. He was flawless on the defensive side of the ball. Not to mention it was a coming out party for him in terms of the offensive side of the ball as well.

To answer the question, I'd take Barnes. Both are athletic, but I think Barnes has the bigger potential. Hes limited in the moves he makes at the moment, but his entire problem will be solved by improving his handle. Seriously, this guy will eventually break out into a 25ppg scorer.

[absalom]

After Barnes is compared to MKG, now its Ross. Who's next?

[East_Stone_Ya]

Ross but it's only because more minutes now

[RighteousMax]

Ross at the moment.

[GaryRaymond23]

Barnes is currently the better player and will end up the better player.

Aside from Ross' 51 pt game and a couple others he's been disappointing this year.

[blacknapalm]

just based on this season? ross but only because he's been showcased.

i think barnes is the better player and has higher potential. ross oozes potential though. already moves well without the ball. think jimmy butler with more range and game (not a slight at all, i love butler overall).

barnes has sneaky athleticism and isn't a bad defender himself. can also create his own shot from what i've seen.

i'd like to see both play at all-star levels.

[Bcogswell]

Personally I believe that Barnes is the better player despite Ross having the better stats as of late.

Barnes has put up 10.1 pts/3.9 reb/1.5 ast on 41.7% FG and 40.2% 3FG compared to Ross' 10.3/3.4/0.9 on 41.3% FG and 40.7% 3FG

So its essentially a draw stats wise over the course of the season but Ross has seen a major boost in minutes and opportunities since the Rudy Gay trade. With the Raptors playing a more team oriented game Ross has been on the receiving end of many extra passes which have left him open for plenty of make-able 3s.

Also his 51 point game does stand out in comparison to Barnes but Ross simply got hot during the game and near the end was forcing it.

They have both been playing good defence from what i've seen this year, however they both do continue to make dumb mistakes (more Ross than Barnes) from time to time which will happen as a young player in the league.

So in conclusion, Barnes is being held back in GSW currently and with the new room that has opened up in the Toronto rotation Ross has been taking advantage and is making the comparison very close.

Both are good players, however if I had the choice between them, I'd go with Barnes moving forwards. Simply because I feel he has a lot more potential than Ross.

[GaryRaymond23]

I just hope that the signing of Iggy doesn't severely hinder the growth of Barnes. I don't think it will, but you never know. What Barnes did in the playoffs last year as a Rookie was nothing short of spectacular.

[Legends66NBA7]

I can see the take on Barnes. It should be noted that Rudy Gay's presence was also in the way of developing Ross more. Watching some of Barnes plays on defense, I'd say both are pretty good in that regard.

Pending any team breakdowns, Ross and Barnes should both be impactful in this year's up coming playoffs.

[hateraid]

I'm sticking with my assessment that Barnes can one day be a franchise type player. The second coming of Reggie Lewis.
If they were given the same opportunity I think Barnes would have stood out more. Barnes in Toronto could be more productive. Ross in G State would not have a chance. Barnes is doing the best he can with very little opportunity.

[Silence]

Barnes seems to be struggling a lot lately, but it's worth mentioning that that he averaged 14.3 points and 4.7 rebounds as a starter in the 15 games Iguodala missed.

[Bcogswell]

I can see the take on Barnes. It should be noted that Rudy Gay's presence was also in the way of developing Ross more. Watching some of Barnes plays on defense, I'd say both are pretty good in that regard.

Pending any team breakdowns, Ross and Barnes should both be impactful in this year's up coming playoffs.

Yeah Rudy being here was wasn't exactly helping Ross either, but I think Ross is just going to be a streaky scorer (6th man type of player) for the majority of his career. I hope I'm wrong though since he is a Raptor and all. :oldlol:

[IrishIggy]

The difference is last year Barnes was getting a lot of minutes on the court with Curry, an elite Point Guard as well as pother great players (Lee, Thompson etc). Now this year when he's on the court is often one of the primary point scorers and isn't given as many open looks or high percentage shots. Ross finds himself in the opposite scenario as he is getting a lot more minutes with Lowry and DeRozan who have been marginally short of all star worthy in the past few months. This provides Ross with the open looks and high percentage shots Barnes got last year.