Will Anthony Davis surpass KG?

[CJ Mustard]

He's better now than KG was at the same age. They do a lot of similar things, but AD is an elite shot blocker. How long until he's the best player in the league?

[KD35willbeGOAT]

He's better now than KG was at the same age. They do a lot of similar things, but AD is an elite shot blocker. How long until he's the best player in the league?

Till KD reaches 30 at least.

[navy]

He cant even create his own offense yet....


And Garnett has a non hyperbolic claim to best defensive player ever.

[Johnny Jones]

He cant even create his own offense yet....



:coleman:

Last year you could say that. But he is a nice little floater he's devloping and he has some post moves.

[Black and White]

No, I don't think he will get to KG's level.

[Lord Bean]

With some hard work he could be the next Rick Barry.

[King Jane]

He already betta than kg eva was :no:

[navy]

:coleman:

Last year you could say that. But he is a nice little floater he's devloping and he has some post moves.

Ive watched him. He gets lots of putbacks, alley oops, and wide open jumpers.

[Black and White]

He already betta than kg eva was :no:

Lord Bean and King Jane = same dude

[Johnny Jones]

Ive watched him. He gets lots of putbacks, alley oops, and wide open jumpers.
Obviously you haven't watched a lot of him

[navy]

Obviously you haven't watched a lot of him

....

Show me otherwise.

[Go Getter]

He cant even create his own offense yet....


And Garnett has a non hyperbolic claim to best defensive player ever.

The #1 knock on KG was that he couldn't create enough shots to be a #1 option on offense.

[Lord Bean]

....

Show me otherwise.

In the words of the great Socrates

"...it is not up to the skeptic to prove the dumbass wrong. but rather, it is the duty of the dumbass to not be a dumbass"

[King Jane]

Kg game don't stand the test of time plus he system specific. Just look at him struggle on the stacked nets. Overrated player from old highlights back when the league was less athletic. Now players his size can shoot the three and handle (KD). Davis is already taller/more muscular/athletic/modern version of kg. just watch em h2h an ull see wut I'm talmbout he make kg look like a stiff.

[CeltsGarlic]

please someone ban kind jane.

[Johnny Jones]

....

Show me otherwise.
http://www.nba.com/games/20140201/CHINOP/gameinfo.html

^^ at 1:03 in the recap video. He does that like 1-2 times a game.

[navy]

http://www.nba.com/games/20140201/CHINOP/gameinfo.html

^^ at 1:03 in the recap video. He does that like 1-2 times a game.

....:facepalm

Come on man. 2 points created for himself per game is not going to get it done. In his defense, KG never evolved into a reliable number 1 option either.

[notatop29pg]

Ive watched him. He gets lots of putbacks, alley oops, and wide open jumpers.

So he works hard and takes smart shots? What does he need to add? More cool crossovers? More contested jumpers? The reason he hits wide open jumpers is because defenders know he can drive.

"Cant create his own offense" is a pretty empty statement. He's scoring 20 per game... Theres guys in the league that CAN create their own offense that still dont hit 20ppg.

KG couldnt hit the ocean from the beach for his first few seasons.

[navy]

So he works hard and takes smart shots? What does he need to add? More cool crossovers? More contested jumpers? The reason he hits wide open jumpers is because defenders know he can drive.

"Cant create his own offense" is a pretty empty statement. He's scoring 20 per game... Theres guys in the league that CAN create their own offense that still dont hit 20ppg.

KG couldnt hit the ocean from the beach for his first few seasons.

Dwight could score 20 a game and he could never create his own shot either. Ive watched pelicans games and there will be times where he becomes a complete afterthought on offense, this is because the guards and coaching, but also because you cant just throw him the ball down low or at the key and expect him to score.

[Warfan]

Kg game don't stand the test of time plus he system specific. Just look at him struggle on the stacked nets. Overrated player from old highlights back when the league was less athletic. Now players his size can shoot the three and handle (KD). Davis is already taller/more muscular/athletic/modern version of kg. just watch em h2h an ull see wut I'm talmbout he make kg look like a stiff.

:biggums:

[Bigsmoke]

Anything is possible!!!

[notatop29pg]

Dwight could score 20 a game and he could never create his own shot either. Ive watched pelicans games and there will be times where he becomes a complete afterthought on offense, this is because the guards and coaching, but also because you cant just throw him the ball down low or at the key and expect him to score.

its true, the guards often ignore him for very long stretches. I think I heard he leads the league in 4th quarter scoring? Thats usually when they start feeding him. Last game against the Cavs they force fed him the last 5 mins and sat back and watched.. he scored without help every time. Yes its the Cavs.. but I think he can easily be a number 1 option (he's only 20!), but Monty is still trying to keep the offensive load off him a bit.

[Sharmer]

He's better now than KG was at the same age. They do a lot of similar things, but AD is an elite shot blocker. How long until he's the best player in the league?


KG was never a great scorer, rebounder or shot blocker. He's under achieved and over rated.

He's a good defensive player, but statistically not that good compared to the greats.

[r0drig0lac]

Kg game don't stand the test of time plus he system specific. Just look at him struggle on the stacked nets. Overrated player from old highlights back when the league was less athletic. Now players his size can shoot the three and handle (KD). Davis is already taller/more muscular/athletic/modern version of kg. just watch em h2h an ull see wut I'm talmbout he make kg look like a stiff.
:facepalm

[CJ Mustard]

KG was never a great scorer, rebounder or shot blocker. He's under achieved and over rated.

He's a good defensive player, but statistically not that good compared to the greats.
:facepalm

[Pointguard]

Anthony Davis is his own person and plays his own way. He's going to be a center so Duncan would have been a better choice of comparison as Davis will never be as versatile as KG. Hopefully AD will provide good comp for Embiid. Which means he's going to have to shoot better, be much better in the post, pass better, and find a way to get even better on defense. And Embiid is going to get incrementally better at a much quicker rate because of his newness to the game.

Wow, its really apparent that KG hating, dumbs you down into profound stupidity.

[Prometheus]

I started watching basketball last month, and I never saw Garnett play for the Timberwolves.

I decided to fix it for you, ya f-king moron

[CJ Mustard]

Anthony Davis is his own person and plays his own way. He's going to be a center so Duncan would have been a better choice of comparison as Davis will never be as versatile as KG. Hopefully AD will provide good comp for Embiid. Which means he's going to have to shoot better, be much better in the post, pass better, and find a way to get even better on defense. And Embiid is going to get incrementally better at a much quicker rate because of his newness to the game.

Wow, its really apparent that KG hating, dumbs you down into profound stupidity.
You really think Davis is more similar to Duncan than Garnett? Completely disagree. He has Garnett's versatility defensively and he has some guard skills offensively (used to be a PG). He doesn't have a back to the basket game like Duncan at all. I doubt he'll be as good of a scorer as Duncan, but he can certainly be similar to KG offensively.

[Pointguard]

You really think Davis is more similar to Duncan than Garnett? Completely disagree. He has Garnett's versatility defensively and he has some guard skills offensively (used to be a PG). He doesn't have a back to the basket game like Duncan at all. I doubt he'll be as good of a scorer as Duncan, but he can certainly be similar to KG offensively.
I like the fact that he moves his feet very well. So defensively he can be similar in that regards. Very few have a back to the basket game now so it doesn't stand out as much. Davis is more so a high flyer than KG/TD, he's bouncier and quicker than most as well. I do find the jump shooting similar to KG. KG and TD played a very skilled, smart game where they did most things right rather than overwhelming opponents with their athleticism. Their effort was in the forefront and why they never really scored above the mid 20's. Davis gets a lot of easy baskets because of his athleticism.

He seems more like a more athletic Dwight Howard, better touch tho. But I did watch some videos and see what you are saying as him being more like KG than Duncan but he's going to be a center from here on out. So I can't see him being the setup option KG was in his prime.

KG and TD were scoring the same way their entire careers. Rarely was it ever more than a 1 basket difference. Are you saying as a post scorer? AD will score more than Duncan because of the easy basket numbers and the lack of structure NO is playing right now.

[tmacattack33]

I doubt it.

[no pun intended]

Way too early to argue if he will or not. But in terms of how fast Davis is currently progressing relative to Garnett's career, it's not unlikely.

[fsvr54]

KG was never a great scorer, rebounder or shot blocker. He's under achieved and over rated.

He's a good defensive player, but statistically not that good compared to the greats.

Led the league in rebounding 4 times :roll: :roll:

:coleman:

[ripthekik]

Don't see why not, but his ceiling is definitely higher than KG's.
He's already an elite rebounder and defender, we're starting to see that beautiful and reliable jumpshot of his, and he has also started to make some nice passes.

Can't wait to see him on a good team.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Back in 2003 who would've thought the Miami Big 3 would be the best team in the NBA. After KD and Brook put up a horrible first season together who woulda thought they would be right next to Miami next to the NBA's elite. AD is already an above average player and he doesn't even have his man body yet, and he hasn't even learned how to win yet and the Pels have a respectable record. AD is going to own this league in 6 years you can bookmark this. Pelicans will be an elite team

[Marlo_Stanfield]

yes he will :hammerhead:

[Fiasco]

how about he surpasses the 9th seed first

[notatop29pg]

I'm a Pels fan so am biased... but I think early signs are that he is heading that way. Will get a quadruple double at some point soon, and is likely to be able to add 5 steals to that as well.

Going to be fun watching him grow that's for sure.

[notatop29pg]

how about he surpasses the 9th seed first

Better posted in the "Will the Pelicans surpass {insert top 8 team}" thread.

[Sharmer]

Led the league in rebounding 4 times :roll: :roll:

:coleman:

6'6 Barkley has a higher career average of RPG.

[no pun intended]

6'6 Barkley has a higher career average of RPG.
lmao this guy using an outlier to prove his point

[navy]

6'6 Barkley has a higher career average of RPG.
Stop posting.

[Sharmer]

Fact is KG career averages, through out the course of his career are not that impressive. He spent the first 6 seasons shooting below 50%, when all the greats such as Barkley and Malone, spent the prime of their careers above 50%. Given his height advantage at PF and his ability to shoot the long range , he's underachieved offensively.

Good defensive player and good rebounder. But wouldn't consider him great at any one skill.

[Pointguard]

Fact is KG career averages, through out the course of his career are not that impressive. He spent the first 6 seasons shooting below 50%, when all the greats such as Barkley and Malone, spent the prime of their careers above 50%. Given his height advantage at PF and his ability to shoot the long range , he's underachieved offensively.
Barkley and Malone were bigger than other power forwards... Rodman was hungrier, as was Mutombo. KG was the best rebounder in his prime. Bird was better than Barkley and he didn't shoot 50% and the league average was much higher than it was 10 years ago. Dirk only got to 50% once before he was 32 years old and he's primarily a shooter. KG averaged over 50% most of his prime but I know you don't know what you are talking about.


Good defensive player and good rebounder. But wouldn't consider him great at any one skill.
Good defensive player? You are only kidding yourself. He is an all time great. One of the best team defensive players ever. Best passing big forward ever. The most complete defender ever.

[redboy]

we'll tell how he progresses in 2-3 years

people were saying in blake's rookie year that he would be that goat. now while there's still a tiny tiny chance that blake might suddenly develop a great post game, my point is to demonstrate that you can't really tell how a player will develop. there are some players that seem to have linear growth and get better by the year while there are others that seem to just peak in their first few seasons due to injuries/defenders figuring them out/who knows what (i'm looking at you tyreke)

[veilside23]

Fact is KG career averages, through out the course of his career are not that impressive. He spent the first 6 seasons shooting below 50%, when all the greats such as Barkley and Malone, spent the prime of their careers above 50%. Given his height advantage at PF and his ability to shoot the long range , he's underachieved offensively.

Good defensive player and good rebounder. But wouldn't consider him great at any one skill.


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mauev56lqP1rrr6fso1_400.jpg

by far the biggest stroll If you think lebron can still be atleast half of what he can do today after 19 years in the league then go ahead... dream on

we all know career AVG specially for a player that is on the decline the last 3 years isnt going to be pretty. but if you average his peak first your idol who cant even beat this record..

Only player in NBA history to reach at least 25,000 points, 10,000 rebounds, 5,000 assists, 1,500 steals and 1,500 blocks in his career
Only player in NBA history to average at least 20 points, 10 rebounds and 5 assists per game for 6 consecutive seasons (1999–2000—2004–05)
Only player in NBA history to average at least 20 points, 10 rebounds and 4 assists per game for 9 consecutive seasons (1998–99—2006–07)


on topic ... i think he can but he has to stay healthy for more than 10 years...

[moe94]

Sharmer is a massive retard. He either has absolutely no idea what he's talking about or he's trolling. Regardless, avoid wasting effort on dude.

[Aussie Dunker]

Wayyyyyy to early to tell. So for me, the biggest compliment a guy like Davis can get is that you can yet say "Davis has no chance of reaching KG's level"... This statement could be said about any other player in this league that plays PF/C.. But not for Davis - You can't say that, and therefore Davis could potentially have a very bright future...

[blacknapalm]

he has the skill and potential. for anyone who doesn't say he isn't great at anything...his mid-range game for his size/age is absolutely insane. his last 30 point game he had, almost half or more of those points came from mid-range jumpers.

and seriously, what are his weaknesses besides strength and a marginal post game? he needs to get better at catch and shooting. he does everything else good-elite. he's an elite shot blocker and he's starting to distance himself even more from the pack. he's becoming a better help defender. he's not falling for as many fakes as he used to and is timing blocks and being grounded. i can't say he'll pass KG in the boards department but he's going to $hit on him in the blocks area.

his post-game is developing but it's not like he has bad habits down there. he just needs more experience. oh and good luck facing him as a roll man in the PNR.

i told everyone when he was a rookie that he was still getting used to his body. pels barely ran any plays for him then and they're starting to run more plays through him now. i love his usage stats. shows that he can impact the game without being one of the biggest focal points in the league. that is crucial. this guy is not a system player. kid can go to any team and improve them tremendously. he has the goods.

KG had insane intensity/leadership and i don't know if the brow can match that. he can do it by example though.

[Sharmer]

Don't know why people are bringing Lebron into the argument.

Fact is many have the opinion that KG is on pair with Barkley or Malone. Many modern fans actually consider KG to better than both, when in fact statistically he doesn't measure up with either one of them.

[B-Easy8]

Dude is ridic.

Pels should trade everything else for Drummond and have the most dominant froncourt in the league for the next 10 years.

[Pointguard]

Don't know why people are bringing Lebron into the argument.

Fact is many have the opinion that KG is on pair with Barkley or Malone. Many modern fans actually consider KG to better than both, when in fact statistically he doesn't measure up with either one of them.

This might overwhelm you being that you can only measure points...

KG won a championship as a defensive keg. That's a dimension that Barkley and Malone didn't even have while leading his team in points and rebounds. Offensively KG played as good team ball as any power forward. And was the best team defensive power forward as well.

[Legends66NBA7]

Matters what he does in the playoffs. If he can step his game high enough against playoff competition, he's on his way.

[Done_And_Done]

Kg game don't stand the test of time plus he system specific. Just look at him struggle on the stacked nets. Overrated player from old highlights back when the league was less athletic. Now players his size can shoot the three and handle (KD). Davis is already taller/more muscular/athletic/modern version of kg. just watch em h2h an ull see wut I'm talmbout he make kg look like a stiff.

You guzzle rubbing alcohol to the same extent a child does breast milk don't you?

[Pushxx]

Sounds like a lot of you never watched KG before 2009.

Watch some of his playoff games with the Celtics and Timberwolves before his injury in 2009. You'll be blown away.

[DMAVS41]

Don't know why people are bringing Lebron into the argument.

Fact is many have the opinion that KG is on pair with Barkley or Malone. Many modern fans actually consider KG to better than both, when in fact statistically he doesn't measure up with either one of them.

Yes. Lets ignore the fact that KG is one of the 10 best defenders ever and probably the best defensive player of this era overall (maybe wallace and duncan could be ranked higher)...

You can't ignore his greatest attribute. Which is his uncanny ability to anchor a defense and defend the pick and roll better than any big I've ever seen...

I don't know exactly where I would rank KG, but he's not on a lesser tier than Malone or Barkley.

After Duncan...KG, Barkley, Malone, Dirk, and Pettit could be ranked in any order.

Actually, Pettit's resume is the clear 2nd best, but because I never saw him play I can't really rank him in all fairness accurately.

To the OP...who knows. He certainly has the talent to do so.

[Mass Debator]

I actually don't think KG got to his max potential. He could've showcased a better scoring statline if he wasn't so unselfish and sometimes not being aggressive enough. And only if he played with someone like John Stockton...oh man.

Davis is the better shot blocker though, but KG is a master at covering the floor with his length and his pick and roll IQ is the best.

[Sharmer]

This might overwhelm you being that you can only measure points...

KG won a championship as a defensive keg. That's a dimension that Barkley and Malone didn't even have while leading his team in points and rebounds. Offensively KG played as good team ball as any power forward. And was the best team defensive power forward as well.

I literally watched every Celtic game in 07-08, and that was a first year team that won 66 games and the roster was so stacked with Veterans like PJ Brown, and Sam Cassell on the bench, Eddie House was on fire from outside, Leon Powe had 30 Point games in the Playoffs. That team was the basis of the Miami big three coming together. Three legit stars of the league changed the NBA. Ray came in averaging 25PPG, Pierce was big time scorer, and KG averaged 22PPG in Minnesota, in 2006-2007, so they joined in peak form.

Barkley and Malone spent the majority of their careers trying to win , as the single go to guy, they didnt join with two other stars to win it all. Fair to say, you could say the same about Lebron, and the Miami big three.

I don't consider Tim Duncan a PF, he's a center, so the GOAT PF is between Malone and Barkley. Dirt and KG can fight out 3rd and 4th. But I think there's considerable difference between the top 2 and 3-4.

On pure talent, KG could have been GOAT at PF.

[hawksdogsbraves]

He could be, it'll be tough though. The one aspect where he probably can't match KG is in passing, KG was one of the best passing big men ever. Davis is more of a defensive anchor, but like KG he can step out and cover the pick and roll really well. KG put up 24/14/5ast in his prime, I can see Davis putting up 25/14 but with 3.5 blocks per game instead of those gaudy assist numbers. Either way he's the kind of guy who can be the best player on a championship team, there aren't a lot of those and you can't really ask for more than that.

[Overdrive]

He's better now than KG was at the same age. They do a lot of similar things, but AD is an elite shot blocker. How long until he's the best player in the league?

Answers can be found in this thread:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147107

[Pointguard]

I literally watched every Celtic game in 07-08, and that was a first year team that won 66 games and the roster was so stacked with Veterans like PJ Brown, and Sam Cassell on the bench, Eddie House was on fire from outside, Leon Powe had 30 Point games in the Playoffs. That team was the basis of the Miami big three coming together. Three legit stars of the league changed the NBA. Ray came in averaging 25PPG, Pierce was big time scorer, and KG averaged 22PPG in Minnesota, in 2006-2007, so they joined in peak form.

Barkley and Malone spent the majority of their careers trying to win , as the single go to guy, they didnt join with two other stars to win it all. Fair to say, you could say the same about Lebron, and the Miami big three.

I don't consider Tim Duncan a PF, he's a center, so the GOAT PF is between Malone and Barkley. Dirt and KG can fight out 3rd and 4th. But I think there's considerable difference between the top 2 and 3-4.

On pure talent, KG could have been GOAT at PF.
The Celtics had one of the best defensive teams ever and that's how they won. To be honest with you the offense didn't have flow for quite a bit if ever. Rondo took awhile in harmonizing the guys and it didn't happen before they noticeably aged. You watched those games and didn't notice the defense?

Malone had the best point guard possible for his style of play and always had 1 great shooter for 15 years. Barkley had Doctor J, Moses Malone and Maurice Cheeks then Kevin Johnson 20 and 9 guy that Garnett never had, Marle, Cebbalos, AC Green and then Hakeem and Drexler (while together they were more productive than Pierce and Allen), and then Pippen and Hakeem (still better than Allen and Pierce). And KG should get props for converting guys that didn't really play defense.

Defense wins. Every body who watches other sports know this. But some basketball fans are the worst. KG didn't score like Malone or Barkley but he was more consistent, a better passer, and always did more than those guys. KG could get to the conference finals while leading his team in nearly every category while being the defensive keg. He played every position in that run. He had way more dimensions than any other power forward and was an all time great defensively.

[Sharmer]

The Celtics had one of the best defensive teams ever and that's how they won. To be honest with you the offense didn't have flow for quite a bit if ever. Rondo took awhile in harmonizing the guys and it didn't happen before they noticeably aged. You watched those games and didn't notice the defense?

Malone had the best point guard possible for his style of play and always had 1 great shooter for 15 years. Barkley had Doctor J, Moses Malone and Maurice Cheeks then Kevin Johnson 20 and 9 guy that Garnett never had, Marle, Cebbalos, AC Green and then Hakeem and Drexler (while together they were more productive than Pierce and Allen), and then Pippen and Hakeem (still better than Allen and Pierce). And KG should get props for converting guys that didn't really play defense.

Defense wins. Every body who watches other sports know this. But some basketball fans are the worst. KG didn't score like Malone or Barkley but he was more consistent, a better passer, and always did more than those guys. KG could get to the conference finals while leading his team in nearly every category while being the defensive keg. He played every position in that run. He had way more dimensions than any other power forward and was an all time great defensively.

This is where I disagree, Boston in 07-08, had stacked bench that could score. They lost in 2010 because they couldn't score against the Lakers in the 4th, they were up 13 points. The same happened in 2011, they couldn't score in the 4th against Miami.

Defense is important and coaches sell it. But if you don't have great offensive abilities then no way you're winning a ring.

This is how the Spurs have transformed themselves, in the late Duncan, Parker, Manu era.

Doc believes in defense wins championships, but watch the Clippers fall short this year. Spolestra says, that defense is the key to Miami, but we know, Miami can score at will, when needed.

Defense is important, but superior offense wins titles.

[ILLsmak]

This is where I disagree, Boston in 07-08, had stacked bench that could score. They lost in 2010 because they couldn't score against the Lakers in the 4th, they were up 13 points. The same happened in 2011, they couldn't score in the 4th against Miami.

Defense is important and coaches sell it. But if you don't have great offensive abilities then no way you're winning a ring.

This is how the Spurs have transformed themselves, in the late Duncan, Parker, Manu era.

Doc believes in defense wins championships, but watch the Clippers fall short this year. Spolestra says, that defense is the key to Miami, but we know, Miami can score at will, when needed.

Defense is important, but superior offense wins titles.

It seems to me Miami scores a lot off of good D in the open court... when they can't do that, their offense can bog down.

-Smak

[notatop29pg]

At 20.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=davisan02&y1=2014&p2=garneke01&y2=1997&p3=webbech01&y3=1994&p4=howardw01&y4=2006&p5=stoudam01&y5=2003&p6=nowitdi01&y6=1999

Scary stuff.

[Pointguard]

This is where I disagree, Boston in 07-08, had stacked bench that could score. They lost in 2010 because they couldn't score against the Lakers in the 4th, they were up 13 points. The same happened in 2011, they couldn't score in the 4th against Miami.

Defense is important and coaches sell it. But if you don't have great offensive abilities then no way you're winning a ring.

This is how the Spurs have transformed themselves, in the late Duncan, Parker, Manu era.

Doc believes in defense wins championships, but watch the Clippers fall short this year. Spolestra says, that defense is the key to Miami, but we know, Miami can score at will, when needed.

Defense is important, but superior offense wins titles.
What do you not understand. They were one of the best defensive teams ever! They weren't good offensively and you are admitting that by what you wrote above. They were far from being the best offensive team that year. Did you really watch them? Pierce and Allen overlapped a lot and Rondo wasn't experienced enough to harmonize their differences. Barkley had great compliments on his teams. Top guard, top center, top forward still didn't help.

[moe94]

At 20.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=davisan02&y1=2014&p2=garneke01&y2=1997&p3=webbech01&y3=1994&p4=howardw01&y4=2006&p5=stoudam01&y5=2003&p6=nowitdi01&y6=1999

Scary stuff.

Being "on pace" is silly, but it's insane to think what he's capable of.

[JohnFreeman]

He can't match KG's personality and competitiveness on the court

[moe94]

He can't match KG's personality and competitiveness on the court

Yeah, he doesn't have that "killer instinct" and his "will to win" is in question. He needs to growl more and crawl on the floor.

[JohnFreeman]

Yeah, he doesn't have that "killer instinct" and his "will to win" is in question. He needs to growl more and crawl on the floor.
Can't tell whether being sarcastic :confusedshrug:

[mr.big35]

Yeah, he doesn't have that "killer instinct" and his "will to win" is in question. He needs to growl more and crawl on the floor.

He has to be aggresive like kg. get into players head

[moe94]

Can't tell whether being sarcastic :confusedshrug:

I thought quotations and second sentence would let you know. Of course I'm being saracic.

It's not like Duncan isn't the GOAT PF or anything and he's the least animated player of all time.

[JohnFreeman]

I thought quotations and second sentence would let you know. Of course I'm being saracic.

It's not like Duncan isn't the GOAT PF or anything and he's the least animated player of all time.

What was wrong with what I said? He will never have the desire and intensity like Garnett? :confusedshrug:
Duncan is a lot more skilled then Garnett and Davis.

[moe94]

What was wrong with what I said? He will never have the desire and intensity like Garnett? :confusedshrug:
Duncan is a lot more skilled then Garnett and Davis.

:no:

Duncan had more post season success but KG was absolutely on his level as an individual player. 04 KG is as good as any version of Duncan.

[MichaelCorleone]

:no:

Duncan had more post season success but KG was absolutely on his level as an individual player. 04 KG is as good as any version of Duncan.
I have to agree.

If KG came into the league playing with D Rob and under Coach Pop, he would have way more than 1 ring.

[JohnFreeman]

:no:

Duncan had more post season success but KG was absolutely on his level as an individual player. 04 KG is as good as any version of Duncan.

I would take 2002 Duncan over any version of Garnett. 04 KG was a beast though.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Can't tell whether being sarcastic :confusedshrug:

What he means is AD needs to talk shit to anyone 6 inches or more shorter than him and act like he's going to fight them, that way people will know he means business.

[Milbuck]

KG probably would've fit better with DRob than Duncan did. That defensive duo would've been insane, and offensive spacing would've been even better.

But if we're talking about carrying a franchise, I'd take Timmy 10 times out of 10.

[NumberSix]

Till KD reaches 30 at least.
It's not a guarantee that KD will ever be the best. George could surpass him before LeBron's let's go of the torch. Nothing is guaranteed. KD could suffer an injury tomorrow and end up being Grant Hill or Penny Hardaway.

[Milbuck]

It's not a guarantee that KD will be the best till he's 30. He's indisputably the best right now, but he could suffer an injury tomorrow and end up being Grant Hill or Penny Hardaway. He's clearly taken the torch from Lebron though, no question about that.

Totally agree.