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KevinNYC
02-03-2014, 07:07 PM
Since the other thread is now about drugs, I figured we should start a new thread about his acting. Interesting post by an actor who lost parts to Hoffman (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/02/03/philip_seymour_hoffman_on_stage_taught_me_what_tru ly_committed_acting_looked.html)

[QUOTE]This silent entrance contains a physical intensity and emotional depth that is nowhere near what I had done in my audition. And I am struck by the alarming realization that it

Akrazotile
02-03-2014, 07:13 PM
There's no way a dude had SEVENTY bags of heroin bagged up individually for single use. He had to be redistributing it to friends.

Honestly, sometimes dudes just like the power of being a 'drug dealer' and they get caught up like dat. Happened to Andy Reid's son.

Anyway, there is no way anyone can convince me heroin should be legal.

Shabba Ranks
02-03-2014, 07:17 PM
Phillip Seymour Coffin

Akrazotile
02-03-2014, 07:18 PM
Phillip Seymour Coffin


Philip Seymour Butts :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

KevinNYC
02-03-2014, 07:19 PM
From the NY Times. (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/04/movies/a-o-scott-on-philip-seymour-hoffman.html?_r=0)

These are not antiheroes in the cable television, charismatic bad-boy sense of the term. They are, in many cases (and there are more, going all the way back to “The Talented Mr. Ripley” and even the 1992 “Scent of a Woman”), thoroughly awful people: pathetic, repellent, undeserving of sympathy. Mr. Hoffman rescued them from contempt precisely by refusing any easy route to redemption.

He did not care if we liked any of these sad specimens. The point was to make us believe them and to recognize in them — in him — a truth about ourselves that we might otherwise have preferred to avoid. He had a rare ability to illuminate the varieties of human ugliness. No one ever did it so beautifully.

Akrazotile
02-03-2014, 07:20 PM
Also, OP couldn't even spell the name right in a tribute thread. OP will burn in hell.




Not for the misspelling. Just for bein a fakkit.

Dresta
02-03-2014, 07:24 PM
There's no way a dude had SEVENTY bags of heroin bagged up individually for single use. He had to be redistributing it to friends.

Honestly, sometimes dudes just like the power of being a 'drug dealer' and they get caught up like dat. Happened to Andy Reid's son.

Anyway, there is no way anyone can convince me heroin should be legal.
but dat druggy ****wit would still be alive if it were legal bro.

Go suck a dick Kevin. Because people are talking about one thing related to his death, you can't talk about his films as well? Is it impossible to have two separate conversations in a thread or something? This thread is redundant: close it.

KevinNYC
02-03-2014, 07:27 PM
Kenneth Turan's tribute
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-philip-seymour-hoffman-appreciation-20140203,0,3044791.story#axzz2sGWB8xHa

KevinNYC
02-03-2014, 07:35 PM
James Lipton on TV. "Greatest actor of his generation."
https://grabien.com/file.php?id=13653&searchorder=date

HardwoodLegend
02-03-2014, 07:41 PM
http://i.imgur.com/qaRC3Xkl.jpg

I wish I could have seen them work together.

Overdrive
02-03-2014, 07:42 PM
Anyway, there is no way anyone can convince me heroin should be legal.

The accessability is good enough that it doesn't make any difference if it's legal or not. People don't refrain from drugs, because they're illegal. Else everybody would be an alcoholic.

Legality and distribution through the goverment and/or controlled business would take away the lacing and especially alot of drug related crimes.

KevinNYC
02-03-2014, 07:48 PM
Easily the best thing in Charlie Wilson's War

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ_4m2ocxhI (R-rated clip if that matters to you)

gigantes
02-03-2014, 07:50 PM
i only saw about a half dozen of his films, and that's not including capote. :facepalm

man, talk about some homework... but at least it should be enjoyable homework.

my favorite role of his was as a transvestite who provided robert deniro musical therapy as a treatment for being disabled by a stroke. mediocre film, but pretty gung-ho performances by those two. flawless (1999).

Akrazotile
02-03-2014, 07:52 PM
The accessability is good enough that it doesn't make any difference if it's legal or not. People don't refrain from drugs, because they're illegal. Else everybody would be an alcoholic.

Legality and distribution through the goverment and/or controlled business would take away the lacing and especially alot of drug related crimes.


You cant have the government distributing something that is so directly linked to depression and death. I dont even like the ease with which people can get prescription pills right now. Its way too easy.

Most people dont wanna live in a world with junkie ass zombies breakin in their car to steal a stereo they can pawn for a fix. Keep this country clean, and GOD BLESS THE UNITES STATES OF AMERICA!

Stempel, HERB
02-03-2014, 07:54 PM
but dat druggy ****wit would still be alive if it were legal bro.

Go suck a dick Kevin. Because people are talking about one thing related to his death, you can't talk about his films as well? Is it impossible to have two separate conversations in a thread or something? This thread is redundant: close it.
:roll:

he's only interested in discussion when knocking down flimsy longhornfan arguments as a reason to spam his paragraphs of bullshit.

Overdrive
02-03-2014, 08:02 PM
You cant have the government distributing something that is so directly linked to depression and death. I dont even like the ease with which people can get prescription pills right now. Its way too easy.

Most people dont wanna live in a world with junkie ass zombies breakin in their car to steal a stereo they can pawn for a fix. Keep this country clean, and GOD BLESS THE UNITES STATES OF AMERICA!

Legal distribution for addicts by the goverment would take away the car stereo stealing.

Again, why isn't everyone an alcoholic? It's legal. It has the highest drug related health issues of any substance aside from maybe nicotine.

Some people really act like housewives would start shooting up, if Heroin was legal. In most cases drugs are a conscious decision.

gigantes
02-03-2014, 08:07 PM
http://img.izismile.com/img/img6/20130212/640/morning_picdump_305_640_15.jpg

Akrazotile
02-03-2014, 08:16 PM
http://img.izismile.com/img/img6/20130212/640/morning_picdump_305_640_15.jpg



:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


First time seein that. Outstanding. :applause:


But wait a minute, those aren't Skittles in his hand, are they....? Uh oh!

KevinNYC
02-03-2014, 08:18 PM
i only saw about a half dozen of his films, and that's not including capote. :facepalm

man, talk about some homework... but at least it should be enjoyable homework.

my favorite role of his was as a transvestite who provided robert deniro musical therapy as a treatment for being disabled by a stroke. mediocre film, but pretty gung-ho performances by those two. flawless (1999).

The Master may be his best performance if you haven't seen that.

If you haven't seen Happiness, it's a very, very dark comedy that might be up your alley.

gigantes
02-03-2014, 08:29 PM
The Master may be his best performance if you haven't seen that.

If you haven't seen happiness, it's a very, very dark comedy that might be up your alley.
wow, there are several interesting films with those names, but i see the ones you mean.

happiness almost sounds like a vague update of hannah and her sisters. the master interests me in being something of an examination of religion and evangelism.


hopefully there will be some good bios coming out about hoffman's inner world. i really enjoyed reading about depardieu, brando, cary grant in particular... their intensities and inner turmoils and how they directed those energies in to their craft. where it worked and where it crashed and burned...

KevinNYC
02-03-2014, 08:42 PM
wow, there are several interesting films with those names, but i see the ones you mean.

happiness almost sounds like a vague update of hannah and her sisters. the master interests me in being something of an examination of religion and evangelism.


hopefully there will be some good bios coming out about hoffman's inner world. i really enjoyed reading about depardieu, brando, cary grant in particular... their intensities and inner turmoils and how they directed those energies in to their craft. where it worked and where it crashed and burned...

The Master is kind of based on L. Ron Hubbard, but it's not a biopic. It's more about the idea of a cult leader.

I haven't seen Happiness in a long time, but I don't think it reminded me at all of Hannah and Her Sisters. It's much more misanthropic.

KevinNYC
02-03-2014, 08:54 PM
what a fat fvk

Yeah, but he looks good with a mullet.
http://static.ibnlive.in.com/pix/slideshow/02-2014/philip-seymour-hoffman/hard-eight-feb3.jpg

irondarts
02-03-2014, 09:02 PM
I said it in the other thread but I'll post it here as well:

I've seen all of his films, and my all time favorite PSH performance is in Love Liza. It's an incredible movie, and PSH's brother Gordy Hoffman wrote the screenplay.

Love Liza Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYDq8k3uiok)

KevinNYC
02-03-2014, 09:10 PM
Have to check that out. Netflix has Hard Eight on Streaming and I'm just up to the part where he comes in

gigantes
02-03-2014, 09:13 PM
off-topic, but bump:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9471058&postcount=77

Overdrive
02-03-2014, 09:37 PM
LOLwut

Making something legal will stop poor addicts from stealing stuff?

No, but giving lost cases their daily dose for free might keep them away from stealing - the problem is that the broke in car, the stolen radio is actually a good thing for everyone but him, because the owner has to buy a new radio and window.

In my city there's a program that hands out free "injection kits", so junkies don't use used needles in order to prevent drug related deseases. Why not take it one step further and supply them with the drug itself, so they don't steal, sell their bodies, etc?

Everybody from the goverment down to the streetworkers who help them knows the will try to get what they need regardless. It would just take away alot of drug related crime.

General legalization would take away syndicates, middlemen and to some extent streetdealers.

Just imagine if Budweiser got a license to sell weed. If they sell their stuff for 75% of the streetprice and with no legal problems for producer, shop and customer don't you think it would take away alot from the people that make money off something forbidden?

Same for harder drugs.

The goverments biggest problem is still to admit that prohibition on drugs doesn't affect the users. If you want to get rid of hard drugs you have to have a society without psychological problems, which simply can't exist.

Akrazotile
02-03-2014, 10:14 PM
In my city there's a program that hands out free "injection kits", so junkies don't use used needles in order to prevent drug related deseases. Why not take it one step further and supply them with the drug itself, so they don't steal, sell their bodies, etc?


I think taking it a step further (in a positive direction) would involve denying them access to clean needles, that way they can die off faster, no?

ZeN
02-03-2014, 11:27 PM
In memory of PSH everyone should watch his most underrated film Before The Devil Knows You're Dead.

KevinNYC
02-03-2014, 11:35 PM
In memory of PSH everyone should watch his most underrated film Before The Devil Knows You're Dead.

For folks who are new to him, I think I would put that at top. I think other movies/roles are better but those are for folks who into more offbeat films. Not everyone is going to appreciate the Master.

But Before the Devil Knows your dead is a very believable crime flick.

However, there is one spoiler I won't mention that might just take you right out of the film.

DonDadda59
02-03-2014, 11:39 PM
"Dark cloud rolls in, opens up. Anxious to share new work..." (http://www.videobash.com/video_show/the-master-freddie-quell-processing-scene-561813) :applause:

Dresta
02-04-2014, 12:14 AM
what a fat fvk
Yeah, was blates on a couple of years away from cardiac arrest anyway. Glad he went out on a high - not many better ways to go :applause: .
LOLwut

Making something legal will stop poor addicts from stealing stuff?
Opium is extremely cheap to grow. Addicts wouldn't need to steal shit because the stuff would be affordable for 99% of them. When you could buy morphine or heroin in a bottle you didn't have loads druggies running around robbing everyone. Alcohol was the big problem back then, and it always has been.

Patrick Chewing
02-04-2014, 12:22 AM
http://media.giphy.com/media/90G9uThYDPw1G/giphy.gif

gigantes
02-04-2014, 12:46 AM
http://media.giphy.com/media/90G9uThYDPw1G/giphy.gif
how do you survive at night, patrick?

you are the singular worst example of humanity i've ever seen.

Patrick Chewing
02-04-2014, 12:55 AM
how do you survive at night, patrick?

you are the singular worst example of humanity i've ever seen.


One of his best performances, truly. His comedic side was very underrated.


http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1466784/philip-seymour-hoffman-mattres-o.gif

Dresta
02-04-2014, 01:49 AM
No, but giving lost cases their daily dose for free might keep them away from stealing - the problem is that the broke in car, the stolen radio is actually a good thing for everyone but him, because the owner has to buy a new radio and window.

In my city there's a program that hands out free "injection kits", so junkies don't use used needles in order to prevent drug related deseases. Why not take it one step further and supply them with the drug itself, so they don't steal, sell their bodies, etc?

Everybody from the goverment down to the streetworkers who help them knows the will try to get what they need regardless. It would just take away alot of drug related crime.

General legalization would take away syndicates, middlemen and to some extent streetdealers.

Just imagine if Budweiser got a license to sell weed. If they sell their stuff for 75% of the streetprice and with no legal problems for producer, shop and customer don't you think it would take away alot from the people that make money off something forbidden?

Same for harder drugs.

The goverments biggest problem is still to admit that prohibition on drugs doesn't affect the users. If you want to get rid of hard drugs you have to have a society without psychological problems, which simply can't exist.It's not like decriminalisation hasn't already been tried, and with some success (despite it being something that only removes a few of the negative effects of prohibition):


Notably, decriminalization has become increasingly popular in Portugal since 2001. Except for some far-right politicians, very few domestic political factions are agitating for a repeal of the 2001 law. And while there is a widespread perception that bureaucratic changes need to be made to Portugal’s decriminalization framework to make it more efficient and effective, there is no real debate about whether drugs should once again be criminalized. More significantly, none of the nightmare scenarios touted by preenactment decriminalization opponents — from rampant increases in drug usage among the young to the transformation of Lisbon into a haven for “drug tourists” — has occurred.

The political consensus in favor of decriminalization is unsurprising in light of the relevant empirical data. Those data indicate that decriminalization has had no adverse effect on drug usage rates in Portugal, which, in numerous categories, are now among the lowest in the EU, particularly when compared with states with stringent criminalization regimes. Although postdecriminalization usage rates have remained roughly the same or even decreased slightly when compared with other EU states, drug-related pathologies — such as sexually transmitted diseases and deaths due to drug usage — have decreased dramatically. Drug policy experts attribute those positive trends to the enhanced ability of the Portuguese government to offer treatment programs to its citizens — enhancements made possible, for numerous reasons, by decriminalization.

http://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/drug-decriminalization-portugal-lessons-creating-fair-successful-drug-policies

And:


The Cato paper reports that between 2001 and 2006 in Portugal, rates of lifetime use of any illegal drug among seventh through ninth graders fell from 14.1% to 10.6%; drug use in older teens also declined. Lifetime heroin use among 16-to-18-year-olds fell from 2.5% to 1.8% (although there was a slight increase in marijuana use in that age group). New HIV infections in drug users fell by 17% between 1999 and 2003, and deaths related to heroin and similar drugs were cut by more than half. In addition, the number of people on methadone and buprenorphine treatment for drug addiction rose to 14,877 from 6,040, after decriminalization, and money saved on enforcement allowed for increased funding of drug-free treatment as well.

Portugal's case study is of some interest to lawmakers in the U.S., confronted now with the violent overflow of escalating drug gang wars in Mexico. The U.S. has long championed a hard-line drug policy, supporting only international agreements that enforce drug prohibition and imposing on its citizens some of the world's harshest penalties for drug possession and sales. Yet America has the highest rates of cocaine and marijuana use in the world, and while most of the E.U. (including Holland) has more liberal drug laws than the U.S., it also has less drug use.

Read more: Decriminalizing Drugs in Portugal a Success, Says Report - TIME http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html#ixzz2sKUpw3Jm

Everyone gonna become mad zombie drug addicts doe!!

Dresta
02-04-2014, 02:06 AM
Is that even a mullet? It just looks like he has long hair, but combed back with a receding hairline.

This is a true mullet:

http://www.partyontheright.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/09/rob-north-obama-needs-to-fear-the-mullet/timthumb-1.png

KevinNYC
02-04-2014, 03:52 AM
The Onion paying tribute to his work in Boogie Nights (http://www.avclub.com/article/philip-seymour-hoffman-makes-unrequited-affection--201007?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=Default:2:Default)
Scotty J.’s rejection, so masterfully conveyed by Philip Seymour Hoffman, actually beats it to the punch. His innocence is gone. In lesser hands than Hoffman and Anderson’s, it could’ve been a throwaway gay joke (and character). Instead, it provides one of the most potent emotional beats in a movie full of them.

KevinNYC
02-04-2014, 03:56 AM
Time magazine has a nice overview of his career. (TIME.com http://entertainment.time.com/2014/02/03/philip-seymour-hoffman-appreciation-death-of-the-master/#ixzz2sKz6h7Fz)


The movie truism is that stars play themselves, while actors play other people — troubled or toxic, and memorably strange. By that definition, Philip Seymour Hoffman, who disappeared into the rabbit hole of his characters’ souls, was our generation’s anti-star and the chameleonic film actor of his age.

BRabbiT
02-04-2014, 04:21 PM
..



nice.


his cause of death is the story line, of course.

what a great actor, though:pimp:



http://media.giphy.com/media/mVEuxRSgq2ltm/giphy.gif

16X
02-05-2014, 12:37 AM
Just watched Capote. I liked it alot.

Lebron23
02-05-2014, 01:01 AM
I also like his performance in the talented Mr. Ripley.

KevinNYC
02-05-2014, 01:25 AM
A review of his performance as Lester Bangs in Almost Famous by someone who knew the real Lester Bangs. (http://www.spin.com/articles/philip-seymour-hoffman-lester-bangs-almost-famous/?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter)

irondarts
02-05-2014, 02:17 AM
I'm glad a lot of people are mentioning Along Came Polly. It's a pretty shitty movie, but god damn PSH is absolutely hilarious in it and make it worth watching. Along with the basketball scene, this scene is also hilarious:

I'm Your Daddy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ke6vWUu18)