Which PF would you take over Ibaka?

[MichaelCorleone]

Right now I rank Serge Ibaka as one of the top 5 PF in the league.

I'll only take these players over him:

1. Anthony Davis
2. LaMarcus Aldridge
3. Kevin Love

Yes Ibaka is better than Blake and Bosh.

Who would you take over Ibaka as a PF?

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Right now I rank Serge Ibaka as one of the top 5 PF in the league.

I'll only take these players over him:

1. Anthony Davis
2. LaMarcus Aldridge
3. Kevin Love

Yes Ibaka is better than Blake and Bosh.

Who would you take over Ibaka as a PF?
would take Blake too but none else

[Black and White]

I would take Blake over him

[BlazerRed]

Obvious agenda is obvious.

[Droid101]

In no particular order:

Love, Dirk, Davis, Griffin, Aldridge, Millsap, and depending on the team, David Lee.

Edit: Forgot about Horford since he's injured and usually forced to play Center.

[MichaelCorleone]

In no particular order:

Love, Dirk, Davis, Griffin, Aldridge, Millsap, and depending on the team, David Lee.

Edit: Forgot about Horford since he's injured and usually forced to play Center.
Aging Dirk?:wtf:

Millsap?:facepalm

[Mr. Jabbar]

Obvious agenda is obvious.

this

[K Xerxes]

Griffin, Dirk and possibly Millsap with the way he's been playing.

Bosh is a center now, though I'd take him over Ibaka if he was playing in the natural PF role.

[Trollsmasher]

Factoring in defense, I would not even take K-Love over him

[Crafty]

5 or 6

[BigMacAttack]

LMA
Love
The Brow
Blake
Bosh
Millsap
Horford


Everyone sees through these agenda driven threads.

[MichaelCorleone]

Factoring in defense, I would not even take K-Love over him
Now that I think about it, yeah you just made a VERY good point, taking into account defensive contributions and blocks.

Ibaka may be a top 2 defensive PF.

[Black and White]

Factoring in defense, I would not even take K-Love over him

So if Love was on the Thunder they would be worse?

[BlazerRed]

In no particular order:

Love, Dirk, Davis, Griffin, Aldridge, Millsap, and depending on the team, David Lee.

Edit: Forgot about Horford since he's injured and usually forced to play Center.

This. Ibaka fits in perfectly into the OKC "scheme" (if you can call it that), but put him as the first option and he'd be terrible. All those players mentioned are better players and do so while facing far more defensive pressure.

[MichaelCorleone]

So if Love was on the Thunder they would be worse?
Yes they will be. Kevin Durant will negate whatever effort Love gives at the offensive end. KD and Westbrook are the entire Thunder's offense. Love would NOT contribute as much on the defensive end as Ibaka.

Brooks would rather take Ibaka over Love trust me.

[navy]

Factoring in defense, I would not even take K-Love over him
I was about to say this. Ibaka is a game changer.

[Uncle Drew]

Shut up GoranDragon, no one cares what you think.

[navy]

So if Love was on the Thunder they would be worse?

Yes. Who would defend the rim?

[K Xerxes]

Why not just go all the way and say that Durant has the best PG, best defensive SG, best PF, the Dwight stopper and best backup PG as his help. We'll get there eventually.

[Droid101]

Aging Dirk?:wtf:

Millsap?:facepalm
14.9 8.8 and .9 with .5 steals 2.5 blocks on 54% (36% from three) with 19.7 PER over:

17.7 8.2 and 3 with 1.3 steals 1.2 blocks on 47% (36% from three) with 20.2 PER

and

21.8 6.2 and 2.9 with 1 steal and .9 blocks on 49% (39% on threes) with 24.2 PER

Uh, yeah I'll take Millsap and Dirk fairly easily.

[BigMacAttack]

Yes. Who would defend the rim?

Who would defend the thunder?

[Trollsmasher]

So if Love was on the Thunder they would be worse?
Yes

What does K-Love do better as a 3rd option than Ibaka? And he managed to outtake David Lee as the worst defensive bigman in the league

[Black and White]

Yes they will be. Kevin Durant will negate whatever effort Love gives at the offensive end. KD and Westbrook are the entire Thunder's offense. Love would NOT contribute as much on the defensive end as Ibaka.

Brooks would rather take Ibaka over Love trust me.

Yea I can see your point there. Let Adams develop, he's going to make them even better.

[MichaelCorleone]

Yes

What does K-Love do better as a 3rd option than Ibaka? And he managed to outtake David Lee as the worst defensive bigman in the league
This.

Ibaka is probably the MOST UNDERRATED player in the league right now. There are no stats to truly gauge his defensive efforts.

[Olacinco]

LMA
Anthony davis
Kevin love
David west
Blake griffin
Millsap
Chris bosh
Z-Bo
Farried
Duncan
Dirk
Nene
Monroe

Completely forgot David lee lol

[MichaelCorleone]

Yea I can see your point there. Let Adams develop, he's going to make them even better.
The way this Thunder team is built, it's truly scary how good their players are individually.

Top 2 SF

Top 3 PG

Top 5 PF

Bunch of A+ supporting cast.

[BlazerRed]

You fools are tiring. Seriously.. you dedicate way too much time to this agenda driven bull shit :facepalm

[AnaheimLakers24]

op es un grande joto y tambien es gorandragon. no tiene vida esta puto

[Droid101]

The way this Thunder team is built, it's truly scary how good their players are individually.

Top 2 SF

Top 3 PG

Top 5 PF

Bunch of A+ supporting cast.
How many alts are you going to have banned by the end of the month? Five? Six?

[MichaelCorleone]

Why is everyone saying I have an agenda?:facepalm

This is a thread to give props to Ibaka's IMMENSE defensive efforts that normal fans just can't detect when watching the game. His contributions goes beyond stats.

[MichaelCorleone]

How many alts are you going to have banned by the end of the month? Five? Six?
Which part of that quote is wrong?

Top 2 SF - Given

Top 3 PG - Arguably

Top 5 PF - Arguably

A+ supporting cast - Sefolosha, Lamb, Jackson, Perkins all SOLID players

[BlazerRed]

Why is everyone saying I have an agenda?:facepalm

This is a thread to give props to Ibaka's IMMENSE defensive efforts that normal fans just can't detect when watching the game. His contributions goes beyond stats.
You're probably one of the idiots saying Ibaka was terrible defensively the last 2 years when Leflop was up for contention for the DPOY award :facepalm

[MichaelCorleone]

You're probably one of the idiots saying Ibaka was terrible defensively the last 2 years when Leflop was up for contention for the DPOY award :facepalm
We're living in the present. RIGHT NOW Ibaka is probably the most valuable defensive player in the league.

[BlazerRed]

Which part of that quote is wrong?

Top 2 SF - Given

Top 3 PG - Arguably

Top 5 PF - Arguably

A+ supporting cast - Sefolosha, Lamb, Jackson, Perkins all SOLID players

:roll:

Also, Gino/Crawford are A+ supporting cast. Lamb is a B at best currently, and Jackson is a B+ maybe. Incredibly inconsistent since he's been starting.

Top 1 SF: Yes

Top 3 PG: Yes

Top 10 PF: Maybe

[Droid101]

:roll:

Also, Gino/Crawford are A+ supporting cast. Lamb is a B at best currently, and Jackson is a B+ maybe. Incredibly inconsistent since he's been starting.

Top 1 SF: Yes

Top 3 PG: Yes

Top 10 PF: Maybe
Perkins lol.

He's literally the biggest minus in the league. The Thunder play better with him on the bench.

[MichaelCorleone]

Perkins lol.

He's literally the biggest minus in the league. The Thunder play better with him on the bench.
Perkins has a special assignment called Dwight Stopping that will give the Thunder a one way ticket straight to the finals.

[BuffaloBill]

The way this Thunder team is built, it's truly scary how good their players are individually.

Top 2 SF

Top 3 PG

Top 5 PF

Bunch of A+ supporting cast.



*Top 1 SF

[MichaelCorleone]

*Top 1 SF
No such thing right now.

The 2 best SF are interchangeable at 1a. 1b.:cheers:

[Trollsmasher]

19/12 on 9 of 12 with 16 minutes to go and DPOY defense against Memphis right now:applause:

[MichaelCorleone]

19/12 on 9 of 12 with 16 minutes to go and DPOY defense against Memphis right now:applause:
This game was what prompted me to create this thread. Ibaka is SOOOOO underrated. A defensive beast that can carry the team when needed.:bowdown:

[BuffaloBill]

Durant makes his teammates so good. Without Durant, Ibaka is maybe top 29, right in front of Kevin Love.

[ABfor3]

MichaelCorleone is a horrible poster, once I saw the thread name and Poster I knew it was gonna be a stupid thread

[BrownEye007]

Right now I rank Serge Ibaka as one of the top 5 PF in the league.

I'll only take these players over him:

1. Anthony Davis
2. LaMarcus Aldridge
3. Kevin Love

Yes Ibaka is better than Blake and Bosh.

Who would you take over Ibaka as a PF?
:oldlol:

[Genaro]

I will give you a tip, OP. When making alts don't put Dragic name so people don't recognize you.

[Milbuck]

OP is the kind of kid that walks in on his parents doing it, and physically can't bring himself to leave the room.

[maybeshewill13]

No such thing right now.

The 2 best SF are interchangeable at 1a. 1b.:cheers:

HAHAHA that's funny. Durant has overtaken Lebron and Lebron stans are resorting to calling them even now. Last year he was "miles ahead", now they're "interchangeable".
:roll:

[MichaelCorleone]

HAHAHA that's funny. Durant has overtaken Lebron and Lebron stans are resorting to calling them even now. Last year he was "miles ahead", now they're "interchangeable".
:roll:
I'm giving Durant a lot of leeway here since he is STILL ringless and fmvp-less and mvp-less.

1a. Lebron
1b. Durant
2. George

[Marlo_Stanfield]

OKC are probably the most stacked team of all time right now:biggums: :biggums:
Westbrook,Thabo,Durant Ibaka,Adams,Lamb,Jackson and some other good roleplayers.
this is INSANE:coleman:

[MichaelCorleone]

OKC are probably the most stacked team of all time right now:biggums: :biggums:
Westbrook,Thabo,Durant Ibaka,Adams,Lamb,Jackson and some other good roleplayers.
this is INSANE:coleman:
It's not even fair.:facepalm

Can we officially name Kevin Durant and his team as a collusion?

[JGXEN]

Love, Dirk, Aldridge, Griffin, Zbo, Bosh, David Lee

[crunk-juice]

West gets no love

[Droid101]

West gets no love
Intangibles are good, but he's not putting up the numbers that he did last year (mostly because they're blowing everyone out).

But yes, good point, he's probably better than Ibaka too.

[Sharmer]

Right now I rank Serge Ibaka as one of the top 5 PF in the league.

I'll only take these players over him:

1. Anthony Davis
2. LaMarcus Aldridge
3. Kevin Love

Yes Ibaka is better than Blake and Bosh.

Who would you take over Ibaka as a PF?


Griffin easy.

[JT123]

OKC are probably the most stacked team of all time right now:biggums: :biggums:
Westbrook,Thabo,Durant Ibaka,Adams,Lamb,Jackson and some other good roleplayers.
this is INSANE:coleman:
The way these Durant stans put down his supporting cast to prop him up is sickening!

[russwest0]

Thabo is a good roleplayer? Have you watched him this season?

I might have entertained your idea until you threw out that BS

[JT123]

Thabo is a good roleplayer? Have you watched him this season?

I might have entertained your idea until you threw out that BS
According to Thunder fans the Heat having Ray Allen makes them stacked, even though he is shooting 34 percent from 3 and is a walking turnover machine. :confusedshrug:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

LMA
Dirk
Davis
Love
Griffin
Bosh
Lee

Arguable: David West and ZBo

[JT123]

LMA
Dirk
Davis
Love
Griffin
Bosh
Lee

Arguable: David West and ZBo
Z-bo is garbage now. The Spurs proved all you have to do is make him go right and he is useless. :lol

[Fudge]

Really? Like, I really get to post which PF's i'd rather have over Ibaka? K lemme see....

Aldridge
Davis
Love
Griffin
Dirk
Lee
Bosh
Randolph

Any of those guys instead of Ibaka the last 3-4 years, we'd be on our way to a 3peat. Easily.

[Illuminati]

:oldlol: Ibaka really is underrated on this board. The only PF I would take over Ibaka is Anthony Davis. Kobe stans choosing scrub PFs and not taking into account defense, shit's funny. :oldlol:

On the defensive end, Ibaka is second in BPG (for PFs) with 2.52, trailing only Davis by ~0.8. He's clearly (eye test too) the second best rim protector in the league.

On the offensive end, he's averaging 15PPG on 54%, shooting the highest percentage of all PFs in the game (mainly because Durant is drawing double teams and passing it to him, which results in a wide open jumper, still though).

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

:oldlol: Ibaka really is underrated on this board. The only PF I would take over Ibaka is Anthony Davis. Kobe stans choosing scrub PFs and not taking into account defense, shit's funny. :oldlol:

On the defensive end, Ibaka is second in BPG (for PFs) with 2.52, trailing only Davis by ~0.8. He's clearly (eye test too) the second best rim protector in the league.

On the offensive end, he's averaging 15PPG on 54%, shooting the highest percentage of all PFs in the game (mainly because Durant is drawing double teams and passing it to him, which results in a wide open jumper, still though).
Ibakas a great defender but his scoring is overinflated. Hes assisted on 87% of his made FGs!!! 87!!!!! And that doesnt take into account the times teammates pass to him for an easy one and he gets fouled.

Hibbert is a better rim protector

[Illuminati]

Ibakas a great defender but his scoring is overinflated. Hes assisted on 87% of his made FGs!!! 87!!!!! And that doesnt take into account the times teammates pass to him for an easy one and he gets fouled.

Hibbert is a better rim protector

So? As the 3rd option, that's a good thing.

:facepalm Hibbert is a center, of course he's better than Ibaka. I said for PFs he's second to Davis.

[Fiasco]

:oldlol: Ibaka really is underrated on this board. The only PF I would take over Ibaka is Anthony Davis

:facepalm

[Fudge]

2nd behind Anthony Davis. :oldlol:

Well, you can go do that bud. Take him. Let's see how far your imaginary team goes. GL. :oldlol:

[Illuminati]

Replace any of those non-defensive PFs for Ibaka. OKC would easily become a bottom 10 defensive team in the league.

[Illuminati]

:facepalm

I can use smileys too. :lol :oldlol: :D :banana: :pimp: :cheers: :rolleyes: :banghead:

:confusedshrug:

[Solefade]

Ibaka isn't the best PF, but defensively he's arguably the best at his position and fits with the Thunder well


when there's two great offensive players on your team, the 3rd guy is usually gonna have to be the garbage pts guy (see Chris Bosh).

[Chuckbrook]

Ibaka isn't the best PF, but defensively he's arguably the best at his position and fits with the Thunder well


when there's two great offensive players on your team, the 3rd guy is usually gonna have to be the garbage pts guy (see Chris Bosh).
And Chris Bosh is so much more than that, but yet he's stuck being the homosexual. :facepalm

-Brook

[TaLvsCuaL]

Early in the season according to ISH He was not even top 10... overreaction after overreaction and almost never a logical reasoning.

[MichaelCorleone]

Top 5 PF this season. Not even in his prime.

OKC so unfair.:facepalm

[Shep]

1. LaMarcus Aldridge
2. Blake Griffin
3. Kevin Love
4. Carmelo Anthony
5. Serge Ibaka

[russwest0]

Dirk is averaging 22ppg on 48% this year....

1. AD
2. LMA
3. Aldridge
4. Dirk
5. Love
6. Ibaka
7. Griffin
8. David Lee

BTW, DAMN THE WEST IS STACKED

[avonbarksdale]

davis
lma
love
griffin
dirk
melo
david lee

[MichaelCorleone]

The fact that Ibaka is in the conversation for best PF in the game (defensive PF it's him no contest) is proof that OKC is the most stacked team in the league right now.

[crunk-juice]

The fact that Ibaka is in the conversation for best PF in the game (defensive PF it's him no contest) is proof that OKC is the most stacked team in the league right now.


Pacers are more stacked.

[russwest0]

The fact that Ibaka is in the conversation for best PF in the game (defensive PF it's him no contest) is proof that OKC is the most stacked team in the league right now.

To who? All of your 10 GoranDragon alts?

[Horde of Temujin]

LA
Love
Davis
West
Dirk

[fragokota]

He's at the bottom half of the top10 pf's list

[RightToCensor]

Terrence Jones

[HomieWeMajor]

I've said it before but Ibaka is the Black Dirk with better defense

[crunk-juice]

I've said it before but Ibaka is the Black Dirk with better defense


I don't see the comparison at all really

[BlazerRed]

I've said it before but Ibaka is the Black Dirk with better defense
You do realize Dirk is an all great right? :biggums:

[coolhandsteve]

Aldridge
Love
Davis
Griffin
Randolph
West
Slide Bosh or Pau to the 4 & I'll probably take them too

Serge is having a good year tho.

[Mass Debator]

Wait until this guy actually makes a marginal impact in the playoffs.

[NumberSix]

Bosh is the best PF in the league.

[navy]

I've said it before but Ibaka is the Black Dirk with better defense

You dont watch basketball.

[Milbuck]

I often have fantasies about Bosh choking me.
:biggums:

[NumberSix]

:biggums:
If there's 1 thing bosh NEVER does, it's choke.

[Milbuck]

If there's 1 thing bosh NEVER does, it's choke.
I know he doesn't choke you, that's why you said you fantasize about it.

[TiagoSimoes]

Ibaka cant be a main guy in offense, he cant create for himself, he pretty much gets fed by kd and westbrook all of his points.

id put him around top7-10