Why are designers trying to bring cross dressing...

[Go Getter]

to the Hip-Hop culture?


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You can't tell me that's not a blouse dog.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
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There's nothing wrong with being gay or cross dressing if that's your thing but I don't like these types of fashions marketed to young straight men. Nobody needs to know you like that boy puts some damn pants on. Fashion is one thing but damnit I KNOW YOUR NUTS IS CRAMPED THEN A MFER! A man should be in clothes that allow him to work and move around if need be and you can't do shit with some shrink wrap slacks on.

Some of these guys need to just come out and be who they are because this is confusing and downright weird.

It is fashion [or them plugging new, outlandish designers]? Are the guys gay/bisexual and just expressing their free-will? What is going on?

[miller-time]

It is just the way of fashion. Go and look at the rockers from the 70s and 80s.

[Go Getter]

Shock value I suppose. Rapping about drive-by's isn't selling anymore.

Why are hip-hop fans so insecure about stuff like this?
I don't remember kids questioning Kurt Cobain's sexuality when he was wearing dresses in 1993.

Also, famous people just like to wear things normal people can't afford or won't wear in public.

I dont see anything sexual in it.
^Because it's not your culture. I tried to make people understand in the OP that I do not have a problem with people living how they'd like but the fashions are getting out of control. I don't think anyone is gay for wearing tight clothes/women's clothes it's up to the individual's actions to decide who they are.

There is no functionality in a man wearing skin tight clothes...Men don't wear dresses and skin tight clothes because of our anatomy. It's not a mystery. I know this stuff [extreme fads] passes with time but it's kind of sad to see young straight men dress like women for attention imho.

[miller-time]

^Because it's not your culture. I tried to make people understand in the OP that I do not have a problem with people living how they'd like but the fashions are getting out of control.

There is no functionality in a man wearing skin tight clothes...I know this stuff [extreme fads] passes with time but it's kind of sad to see young straight men dress like women for attention imho.

Culture is not static. They are constantly changing. What Hip-hop culture was in the 80s was not exactly the same as it was in the 90s. The 90s weren't the same as the 00s and the 00s won't be the same as the 10s. Saying something is or isn't a part of a culture makes no sense.

[Go Getter]

Culture is not static. They are constantly changing. What Hip-hop culture was in the 80s was not exactly the same as it was in the 90s. The 90s weren't the same as the 00s and the 00s won't be the same as the 10s. Saying something is or isn't a part of a culture makes no sense.

Well maybe you should take a few classes then man. Some basic things about a culture stays the same or it changes into something else.

Polynesians and Irishmen wear something like dresses [no disrespect I don't know the official name]. Culture is more about tradition than change silly man.

[Jameerthefear]

This just goes to show you why this generation is the best to ever live. We're not scared to fit into some tight pants.

[Go Getter]

This just goes to show you why this generation is the best to ever live. We're not scared to fit into some tight pants.


Your generation is pretty lazy, inept, overweight, and probably the least-*****-getting generation of all-time when you think about it.

[fiddy]

Your generation is pretty lazy, inept, overweight, and probably the least-*****-getting generation of all-time when you think about it.
pretty much

[Myth]

Men don't wear dresses and skin tight clothes because of our anatomy. It's not a mystery.

Apparently it is a mystery to you. That is not at all why men don't wear dresses.

[tomSR.]

Apparently it is a mystery to you. That is not at all why men don't wear dresses.

right, it

[Go Getter]

Apparently it is a mystery to you. That is not at all why men don't wear dresses.

Well you tell me why men don't wear dresses genius.

I'm not saying a dress is harmful [I haven't done any research on this topic] but I know my nuts don't like drafts and I read somewhere that scrotum support was good for the old family jewels.

[NuggetsFan]

Some of the clothes today are bananas. I don't get the whole "straight" or really any of the sexuality thing your pushing with it tho, that's kinda strange not going to lie. The shirt on the first pic yeah it's suspect and looks girly but everything else is just flat out different, guy or girl that last picture is fkcing weird to the majority.

When I see clothes like what Tyson Chandler is wearing cross drossing, feminine doesn't hit my brain. Just looks like somebody trying to be different for the sake of being different, trying hard to be trendy etc. as I person who has no idea about fashion I'm probably pretty ignorant. Not sure how it's confusing, if you see that dude in the last picture and are like dude why don't you just come out than you probably got some questions to ask yourself tbh.

Tight clothes have been around forever. All the weird shit NBA players/rappers/NFL guy's are wearing these days don't look like womens clothes to me, atleast girls I know. Just look weird as hell and looks like there purposely picking something out that screams crazy and strange.

[Myth]

Well you tell me why men don't wear dresses genius.

I'm not saying a dress is harmful [I haven't done any research on this topic] but I know my nuts don't like drafts and I read somewhere that scrotum support was good for the old family jewels.

Men have often worn dresses throughout history. You yourself have even referenced kilts (the skirts that Scottish, not Irish, men wear). Also, there are a lot of loose fitting clothing for Islamic men that are about as free flowing as a dress. If anatomy, such as needing scrotum support, was the reason, that could easily be covered by supportive briefs.

In Western culture, I believe part of the answer of why men don't wear dresses is based on the activities men did, such as mounting horses, running and going through brush when hunting, etc., while women were not expected to as frequently do those types of activities.

[Nick Young]

cus designers are mostly women or gay guys and they are the ones who make the clothes

[Myth]

Some of the clothes today are bananas. I don't get the whole "straight" or really any of the sexuality thing your pushing with it tho, that's kinda strange not going to lie.

He obviously associates it with gay culture and has a big push back against it with the hip-hop culture historically being very macho based. The overall negativity of his to this style of clothing comes across as pretty homophobic.

[NuggetsFan]

He obviously associates it with gay culture and has a big push back against it with the hip-hop culture historically being very macho based. The overall negativity of his to this style of clothing comes across as pretty homophobic.

Shit just looks strange to me. Honestly I'd probably just assume there hipsters if I saw that in public. First picture, and picture besides Chandler look girly. Even than look more ridiculous than anything. Maybe like ten years ago yeah but in '14 I don't get linking that to crossdressers and gay people.

That Adrian Broner dude literally looks like he went into his closet and said how absurd can I look today. I rock skinny jeans and random T's and am clueless about fashion and at the end of day people can wear whatever they want, don't give a shit how another dude dresses but these hipsters are trying waaaay too hard.

This isn't new tho, every generation wears something people will later look back on and laugh at it seems.

[Myth]

Shit just looks strange to me. Honestly I'd probably just assume there hipsters if I saw that in public. First picture, and picture besides Chandler look girly. Even than look more ridiculous than anything. Maybe like ten years ago yeah but in '14 I don't get linking that to crossdressers and gay people.

That Adrian Broner dude literally looks like he went into his closet and said how absurd can I look today. I rock skinny jeans and random T's and am clueless about fashion and at the end of day people can wear whatever they want, don't give a shit how another dude dresses but these hipsters are trying waaaay too hard.

This isn't new tho, every generation wears something people will later look back on and laugh at it seems.

I'm in agreement to it not being a good look. I just don't see why all the negativity is being linked to gay and cross-dressing culture.

[LilKateMoss]

Op is the self-appointed Minister of Blackness and Hip Hop, so y'all better shut up when he's preaching.

[CelticBaller]

Nikka was wearing yoga pants :roll:

[Akrazotile]

I'm in agreement to it not being a good look. I just don't see why all the negativity is being linked to gay and cross-dressing culture.


Cuz dem nikkas is fakkits brah

[Jet]

Cuz dem nikkas is fakkits brah


They still look more manly than this guy.
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[Go Getter]

He obviously associates it with gay culture and has a big push back against it with the hip-hop culture historically being very macho based. The overall negativity of his to this style of clothing comes across as pretty homophobic.


Just because I said I don't like it doesn't mean I fear it or look down on it in a way that makes me think of the person wearing it is lesser than me.

Try not to put words in my mouth.

[Go Getter]

Op is the Minister of Blackness and Hip Hop, so y'all better shut up when he's preaching.
:pimp: Listen to the man.

I sonned him in a Hip-Hop thread years ago and he is still butthurt over it, lol.

[Go Getter]

Men have often worn dresses throughout history. You yourself have even referenced kilts (the skirts that Scottish, not Irish, men wear). Also, there are a lot of loose fitting clothing for Islamic men that are about as free flowing as a dress. If anatomy, such as needing scrotum support, was the reason, that could easily be covered by supportive briefs.

In Western culture, I believe part of the answer of why men don't wear dresses is based on the activities men did, such as mounting horses, running and going through brush when hunting, etc., while women were not expected to as frequently do those types of activities.

We are talking about a specific culture though not a group of people throughout history. If metal heads started wearing flower print shirts it would be a noteworthy deviation from established culture.

[Go Getter]

I'm in agreement to it not being a good look. I just don't see why all the negativity is being linked to gay and cross-dressing culture.

It's only negative if you look at it that way. I have a young son who I would not like to see in women's clothing [unless that's his lifestyle choice and then I will accept it because I love him unconditionally].

However, I still feel like I have the right to say that I don't like it[as an option for straight men] without people saying I'm homophobic.

[tomSR.]

cus designers are mostly women or gay guys and they are the ones who make the clothes


there it is........


also, gays don

[Go Getter]

I don't get the whole "straight" or really any of the sexuality thing your pushing with it tho, that's kinda strange not going to lie.

Not sure how it's confusing, if you see that dude in the last picture and are like dude why don't you just come out than you probably got some questions to ask yourself tbh.



Again, you don't understand our culture. If you grew up with elders that were in my culture maybe you would understand more.

I said more than once that only your sexual actions depict "what you are" sexually [not your wardrobe], however, clothes that show off your body in the manner that women do is something that is not normally found in the Hip-Hop community.

In my neighborhood and any black neighborhood I've traveled to the men did not wear tights, blouses, make up, pluck their eyebrows, or paint their nails [except pimps].

I'm not condoning hating on people because they want to change conventions but it's my right to speak on them and say whether or not I like them. I don't like this trend.

[rezznor]

Again, you don't understand our culture. If you grew up with elders that were in my culture maybe you would understand more.

I said more than once that only your sexual actions depict "what you are" sexually [not your wardrobe], however, clothes that show off your body in the manner that women do is something that is not normally found in the Hip-Hop community.

In my neighborhood and any black neighborhood I've traveled to the men did not wear tights, blouses, make up, pluck their eyebrows, or paint their nails [except pimps].

I'm not condoning hating on people because they want to change conventions but it's my right to speak on them and say whether or not I like them. I don't like this trend.

fashion is cyclical. if you don't like it, just wait it out. just because hip hop is into it doesn't mean you have to follow it.

[Go Getter]

fashion is cyclical. if you don't like it, just wait it out. just because hip hop is into it doesn't mean you have to follow it.

Agreed. And I know the op is hyperbolic because the fashions haven't been mass produced [and to get people to post] but it's not only the Hip-Hop purists that are wondering why this trend is becoming more and more popular...a lot of young heads are in agreement with my sentiments.

[LilKateMoss]

:pimp: Listen to the man.

I sonned him in a Hip-Hop thread years ago and he is still butthurt over it, lol.
Lol I don't even listen to hip-hop, so it's highly unlikely that ever happened. Anyway, I understand you must've caught your kid trying on one of your cocktail dresses and you're concerned about it, but it's not such a big deal. Children like to play, and gender conventions are not so clearly defined at those ages, so the fact his dad is a *** of the highest caliber doesn't necessarily mean he will be too.

[step_back]

Why do designers try to bring cross dressing to any culture?

[Crown&Coke]

the more outlandish it is, the more us poor folk gonna pay through the nose to buy it

thats why, the bottom line

[Go Getter]

Lol I don't even listen to hip-hop, so it's highly unlikely that ever happened. Anyway, I understand you must've caught your kid trying on one of your cocktail dresses and you're concerned about it, but it's not such a big deal. Children like to play, and gender conventions are not so clearly defined at those ages, so the fact his dad is a *** of the highest caliber doesn't necessarily mean he will be too.


It's highly unlikely that a guy with 400 posts remembers me unless I made an impact on him. Your assessment of me suggests that you are upset for whatever reason. You haven't spoke on my words, you went right to attacking me which is a DEAD GIVEAWAY, lol.

I apologize for getting you all butthurt.:oldlol:

Your assumptions of me are kinda of funny and I understand you want to make me upset but it's not working. Either try harder or **** off.

[Go Getter]

a huge part of "hip hop culture" is not giving a single shit about what other dudes are wearing.

No it's not. A big part of Hip-Hop is breaking down your competition to the very last compound. Most rappers talk about other rappers [and compare themselves to them] ad naseum actually.

[Go Getter]

rappers have been wearing outlandish shit for sometime now. welcome to 2014. and aside from a few (usually older) rappers, nobody really gives a shit. here's a picture of Dr. Dre "cross dressing" in the fvcking 80's



http://bigghostlimited.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/dre-1.jpg

First of you don't know who cares and who doesn't. I have a lot of younger cousins in Chicago that don't appreciate how young black men are depicted in Hip-Hop.

Dre was a part of a BAND, not a Hip-Hop group that dressed like that which was more in the vein of parliment/sugar hill gang not a Hip Hop group.

While the old-school Cali cats used to dress pretty weird I never saw them wearing blouses or dresses which was depicted in the OP.

READ, SON: cross dressing.

Not wearing tight clothes specifically and not wearing outlandish unique outfits.

[Myth]

Just because I said I don't like it doesn't mean I fear it or look down on it in a way that makes me think of the person wearing it is lesser than me.

Try not to put words in my mouth.

I wasn't putting words in your mouth. I was interpreting the words that were negative, and even then the interpretation wasn't saying that you feared or or viewed them as lesser, it was that you had a negative view of their culture having overlap with yours.

[Ratnik]

American fashion is gay as fvck, no doubt about it.

[Myth]

Again, you don't understand our culture. If you grew up with elders that were in my culture maybe you would understand more.

I said more than once that only your sexual actions depict "what you are" sexually [not your wardrobe], however, clothes that show off your body in the manner that women do is something that is not normally found in the Hip-Hop community.

In my neighborhood and any black neighborhood I've traveled to the men did not wear tights, blouses, make up, pluck their eyebrows, or paint their nails [except pimps].

I'm not condoning hating on people because they want to change conventions but it's my right to speak on them and say whether or not I like them. I don't like this trend.

Why don't you just say you don't like this clothing trend rather than having to have to have a separation between straight and gay styles of clothing? It seems like you want a segregation of clothing styles.

[Go Getter]

just to be clear, I wouldn't wear any of this shit. I just don't care when people do, especially if they make more $ and fvck more bitches then me.




I didn't realize your younger cousins in Chicago were like the gurus of rap culture, my bad. I met a GD fro Chicago who really liked Young Thug. :confusedshrug: and I know plenty of ghetto ass dudes who like Lil Wayne and Young Thug even tho they wear skin tight clothes. There's plenty who don't fvck with them based on that, but it's not like the overwhelming majority by any means.


how old are you?

I never said I or any of my affiliates are authorities man I offered up another angle. I know grown men that listen to Danny Glover. I fux with some Lil Bibby, Sir Michael Rocks, Danny Brown (even though he is older than me) so it's not about nostalgia. Seems like you defend everything thats new and assume that people older than you are hatin irrationally.

Jut because you don't care about societal trends and you and your friends like to wear dresses doesn't mean I'm a bad person for expressing my displeasure. Someone's mode of dress would never prevent me fr listening to a dope song they made...Freddy Mercury is one of my favorite vocalists of all time.

[Go Getter]

Why don't you just say you don't like this clothing trend rather than having to have to have a separation between straight and gay styles of clothing? It seems like you want a segregation of clothing styles.
I think the separation of clothing (men and women) is something that was around way before this thread.

[Myth]

I think the separation of clothing (men and women) is something that was around way before this thread.

Right, and when those barriers are breached, that is when you see homophobic responses come out, including covert ones that are along the lines of 'they can do whatever they want but I don't want it around me.'

[Andrew Wiggins]

Right, and when those barriers are breached, that is when you see homophobic responses come out, including covert ones that are along the lines of 'they can do whatever they want but I don't want it around me.'


sounds like you're reaching for a way to call someone homophobic

[Myth]

sounds like you're reaching for a way to call someone homophobic

If he were just saying he doesn't like the style, that is one thing. He is using language disapproving of straight people dressing similarly to gay people, which is covert homophobic language. Adding qualifiers is just making it not as overt.



I don't like these types of fashions marketed to young straight men.


A man should be in clothes that allow him to work and move around if need be and you can't do shit with some shrink wrap slacks on.


I have a young son who I would not like to see in women's clothing

[Go Getter]

If he were just saying he doesn't like the style, that is one thing. He is using language disapproving of straight people dressing similarly to gay people, which is covert homophobic language. Adding qualifiers is just making it not as overt.

Qualifiers like I would not like my son to dress like a woman BUT I WOULD LOVE HIM UNCONDITIONALLY NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES?

You are reaching man.

I think gay men have better style than straight men in general. I just don't like when it gets too feminine but it's okay for others if that's what they're into and I'm not mad at Broner, A$AP or Kanye.

I just don't want to see blouses and tights [as outerwear] in the mens section.

Is that wrong of me?

[Myth]

Qualifiers like I would not like my son to dress like a woman BUT I WOULD LOVE HIM UNCONDITIONALLY NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES?



The language you use seems to convey that you would be disappointed if he wore women's clothing. Might as well say "I love him despite him dressing that way."

[Jameerthefear]

Your generation is pretty lazy, inept, overweight, and probably the least-*****-getting generation of all-time when you think about it.
lol old people. best generation of all time.

[LilKateMoss]

Damn, dis ****** white designers be making young ****** dress like bitches. OG ****** used to ***grump grump grump***. I don't be down with dat shit, bandanas and baggy pants is all I fux wit. Fubu 4lyfe yo! [/Go Getter]

[Go Getter]

I never said you're a bad person. You probably aren't, Just kinda weird for getting worked up about current fashion trends and its possible effect on the youth or whatever. And I confuse you for an old hater cause you come across as one in your posts.



Your 2nd to last sentance pretty much sums it up.


"Someone's mode of dress would never prevent me fr listening to a dope song they made"

I didn't say it was a sign of societal decay I said it was something I'm not fond of. There are a lot of things I like about the new generation of rappers and young adults actually I think a lot of them have their head on straight but a lot of the trends are bogus and just because I voice my opinion it doesn't mean I'm all bent out of shape.

[Go Getter]

Damn, dis ****** white designers be making young ****** dress like bitches. OG ****** used to ***grump grump grump***. I don't be down with dat shit, bandanas and baggy pants is all I fux wit. Fubu 4lyfe yo! [/Go Getter]

Try again and make it funny...

[Go Getter]

lol old people. best generation of all time.


:no:

[Go Getter]

The language you use seems to convey that you would be disappointed if he wore women's clothing. Might as well say "I love him despite him dressing that way."

C'mon man it's natural instinct for a father to want his son to follow in his footsteps...again, you're trying to make me out to be a bad guy...

[Myth]

C'mon man it's natural instinct for a father to want his son to follow in his footsteps...again, you're trying to make me out to be a bad guy...

I'm trying to educate you that you are using covert homophobic language.

Say you don't like the clothing style. When you liken it to gay culture and then say you don't like it, it comes across as subtly dismissing gay culture.

[tomSR.]

lol old people. best generation of all time.

with skinny jeans, and always on the phone, twitter, facebook.........has to be the worst time in human history

[Go Getter]

I'm trying to educate you that you are using covert homophobic language.

Say you don't like the clothing style. When you liken it to gay culture and then say you don't like it, it comes across as subtly dismissing gay culture.

I included cross-dressing, actually cross-dressing was the main point. It's a fact or rhetorically accurate and unbiased to say that men wearing blouses, dresses and tights as pants is cross-dressing.

I ASKED if this has something to do with gay culture but added that wearing a certain style of clothing doesn't make you gay at all.

I also said I wouldn't care if my son is gay/wears dresses I want him to be a good/happy person first and foremost and everything else doesn't really matter.

Seems like you're hell bent on turning me into some homophobe that hates gays and you're not reading what I'm saying.

[Myth]

I also said I wouldn't care if my son is gay/wears dresses I want him to be a good/happy person first and foremost and everything else is doesn't really matter.

Seems like you're hell bent on turning me into some homophobe that hates gays and you're not reading what I'm saying.

That is not what you said. You said that you "have a young son who I would not like to see in women's clothing," but then clarified that you "I will accept it because I love him unconditionally." I think it is great that you love your son unconditionally and would accept him, but as I pointed out before, by starting with the first part the language you have been using indicates that you would love him despite being a cross-dresser.

And I'm not hell bent on turning you into a homophobe that "hates gays." I think you aren't reading what I am saying, because I never once said you are a hater of anybody. My point has simply been that you have been using covert homophobic language.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I'm trying to educate you that you are using covert homophobic language.

Say you don't like the clothing style. When you liken it to gay culture and then say you don't like it, it comes across as subtly dismissing gay culture.

You're not educating anyone though. These clothes look absolutely awful. Some borderline feminine. Think that's all Go Getter is saying.

[Go Getter]

That is not what you said. You said that you "have a young son who I would not like to see in women's clothing," but then clarified that you "I will accept it because I love him unconditionally." I think it is great that you love your son unconditionally and would accept him, but as I pointed out before, by starting with the first part the language you have been using indicates that you would love him despite being a cross-dresser.

And I'm not hell bent on turning you into a homophobe that "hates gays." I think you aren't reading what I am saying, because I never once said you are a hater of anybody. My point has simply been that you have been using covert homophobic language.

In my "fantasy world" my son is like me but "more successful." Of course I understand that I do not own him and I'd never try and make him into someone he is not but it's the way it is. It's honest and I'm not "clearing it up"...that's you injecting your bias in there like you know I have some ulterior motive.

It's not "covert homophobic language" man you're being a bit sensitive...I apologize for giving you that impression.

[Myth]

In my "fantasy world" my son is like me but more successful. Of course I understand that I do not own him and I'd never try and make him into someone he is not but it's the way it is. It's honest and I'm not "clearing it up"...that's you injecting your bias in there like you know I have some ulterior motive.

It's not "covert homophobic language" man you're being a bit sensitive...I apologize for giving you that impression.

Covert homophobic language does not mean you have an ulterior motive. It is like somebody saying "That is gay" in a negative way without actually meaning harm. It can be harmful even without intent. That is why I was disagreeing with your assessment of me trying to make you out to be a bad guy.

[Myth]

You're not educating anyone though. These clothes look absolutely awful. Some borderline feminine. Think that's all Go Getter is saying.

What is wrong with something being feminine? :confusedshrug:

The messages being conveyed in this thread suggest that it OK for a gay person or a cross-dresser to be feminine, but it is frowned upon for straight guys to be feminine.

[Go Getter]

Covert homophobic language does not mean you have an ulterior motive. It is like somebody saying "That is gay" in a negative way without actually meaning harm. It can be harmful even without intent. That is why I was disagreeing with your assessment of me trying to make you out to be a bad guy.
But I said that the type of clothing you wear doesn't make you gay at all.

Homophobic is a bad word to use in this instance. Nothing I said alluded to fear or hatred of gays.

[GOBB]

rappers have been wearing outlandish shit for sometime now. welcome to 2014. and aside from a few (usually older) rappers, nobody really gives a shit. here's a picture of Dr. Dre "cross dressing" in the fvcking 80's



http://bigghostlimited.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/dre-1.jpg

No one knew about this until Easy E exposed Dr. Dre in a rap beef. He used this photo and other lines as an insult. Go figure.

[Dresta]

Culture is not static. They are constantly changing. What Hip-hop culture was in the 80s was not exactly the same as it was in the 90s. The 90s weren't the same as the 00s and the 00s won't be the same as the 10s. Saying something is or isn't a part of a culture makes no sense.
Except this isn't really culture, it's just a fad, like apple products beginning with an 'i', selfies, twilight, wearing pants half way down ur ass, justin bieber, and countless other inanities perpetuated by dumbasses.

[Dresta]

No one knew about this until Easy E exposed Dr. Dre in a rap beef. He used this photo and other lines as an insult. Go figure.
Yeah, and it's also a stretch to call what Dre was doing then hip-hop because it was some electro-funk bs.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

What is wrong with something being feminine? :confusedshrug:

The messages being conveyed in this thread suggest that it OK for a gay person or a cross-dresser to be feminine, but it is frowned upon for straight guys to be feminine.

I don't have a problem with you wanting to wear women's clothing, Myth. More power to you. :applause: