If Kobe and Bran were drafted to the Lakers in 1996

[Mr. Jabbar]

How many chips?
Chemistry?
Alpha Beta?

Pjax is the coach

[cos88]

lebron was at least 5 times better than kobe when they were drafted. kobe wasnt even a starter.

[MichaelCorleone]

First of all, his name is Lebron.

Back to topic, I say they win around 3 ships with Lebron winning 3 FMVPs.

[MichaelCorleone]

Replace Shaq's face with Lebron's. There you go.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bde9oHfCIAAQEyG.jpg:large

[talkingconch]

Replace Shaq's face with Lebron's. There you go.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bde9oHfCIAAQEyG.jpg:large
This doesnt make any sense. Lebron joined Wade and Bosh to fail his first year then win 2. So, next.

and I'd say 4-5 chips OP

[MichaelCorleone]

This doesnt make any sense. Lebron joined Wade and Bosh to fail his first year then win 2. So, next.

and I'd say 4-5 chips OP
It's ROOKIE Lebron you fool.

The rookie who had 25/9/6 in his FIRST NBA GAME. Yeah, he'll be the alpha.

[Mr. Jabbar]

corleone forgot his medication :facepalm, dude melted down before anyone said a thing, preemptive damage control on its rawest form

[Lebron23]

Lebron is going to be the Alpha. He averaged 20/5//5 as a 19 yrs. Rookie.

[MichaelCorleone]

Lebron is going to be the Alpha. He averaged 20/5//5 as a 19 yrs. Rookie.
25/9/6 debut NBA game, shattering all the high expectations. Meanwhile Kobe sat on the bench and had to ride Shaq's back to his rings.

Deep down we all know who the alpha is.:pimp:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe was taking clutch shots over prime Shaq as a rookie, he'd definitely be the alpha. Kobe was a lot better his rookie year than what his minutes tell.

[MichaelCorleone]

Kobe was taking clutch shots over prime Shaq as a rookie, he'd definitely be the alpha. Kobe was a lot better his rookie year than what his minutes tell.
Can we just let the 3 rings 0 ZERO fmvp talk? That right there suggests he's a beta.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Can we just let the 3 rings 0 ZERO fmvp talk? That right there suggests he's a beta.

shaq could have won fmvp next to jordan so what are you trying to prove?
besides, kobe routing shaq outa town to prove himself doesnt sound beta to me, its not like HE left to join other franchise players :rolleyes:

[MichaelCorleone]

shaq could have won fmvp next to jordan so what are you trying to prove?
besides, kobe routing shaq outa town to prove himself doesnt sound beta to me, its not like HE left to join other franchise players :rolleyes:
Nope MJ would've won all FMVP, at best Shaq gets 1 or 2.

Kobe is a known beta POSING as an alpha. Lebron would put him in his place if they are the same age.

[Mr. Jabbar]

imagine year 2006... 2006 kobe with what we know as 2013 lebron playing for the same team

[MichaelCorleone]

imagine year 2006... 2006 kobe with what we know as 2013 lebron playing for the same team
No arguments as to who the better rookie is...have us "imagining" things.:oldlol: :facepalm

[Mr. Jabbar]

No arguments as to who the better rookie is...have us "imagining" things.:oldlol: :facepalm

my god, gorans alt doesnt get tired, was goran perma banned?

[MichaelCorleone]

my god, gorans alt doesnt get tired, was goran perma banned?
Don't go off topic.

Rookie Lebron vs rookie kobe, who's the better player? You know it, just have to admit it.

[Mr. Jabbar]

:blah :blah :blah

ok ok..

[MichaelCorleone]

ok ok..
Nothing to say regarding kobe's PATHETIC rookie year huh.:roll:

[MichaelCorleone]

No balls to debate, creates a thread to petition for my getting banned.:roll: :facepalm

Sad, I thought you could hang with the likes of us.:oldlol:

[JohnFreeman]

No balls to debate, creates a thread to petition for my getting banned.:roll: :facepalm

Sad, I thought you could hang with the likes of us.:oldlol:
Damn. :eek:

[MichaelCorleone]

Damn. :eek:
That's all Mr. Jabbar is. All style no substance. Every now and then comes up with a funny comment and thinks he's the local celebrity.

Don't create a thread you're not ready to back up your point with. Makes you look like a straight fool. Loses a debate (on the verge of) and bails, beta kid.

[JT123]

No balls to debate, creates a thread to petition for my getting banned.:roll: :facepalm

Sad, I thought you could hang with the likes of us.:oldlol:
I have to admit, you straight up SONNED Jabbar! :lol :cheers:

[TheMilkyBarKid]

No balls to debate, creates a thread to petition for my getting banned.:roll: :facepalm

Sad, I thought you could hang with the likes of us.:oldlol:
:applause:

[russwest0]

LeBron would be the Dwight of that relationship. Kobe's bitch and overall too bitchmade to handle playing with Kobe who's only goal is to win a chip.

[Lebron23]

LeBron would be the Dwight of that relationship. Kobe's bitch and overall too bitchmade to handle playing with Kobe who's only goal is to win a chip.


Lebron is a better playoff performer than Kobe. Kobe would be his sidekick. They both have the same numbers of Finals MVP. and Lebron is a 4x NBA MVP while Kobe is a one time NBA MVP.

[VIntageNOvel]

mr.jabbar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
he just doing what shoul've been done

http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1373658104915369.jpg

[VIntageNOvel]

Lebron is a better playoff performer than Kobe. Kobe is gonna be his Larry Hughes/Mo Williams, and Current Wade.

:roll:

[russwest0]

Lebron is a better playoff performer than Kobe.

http://ioneglobalgrind.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/mj-laughing.gif

[VIntageNOvel]

http://www.nba.com/playoffs2001/finals/west/recap_lal_sas_010519.html?nav=ArticleList

22 y.o kobe against prime spurs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0HtbJFEzJM

while lebron struggled against kahwi boy and diaw :roll:

dont bring the corpse of boston and pistons :roll:

[knicksman]

lebron would be exposed as an overrated statpadder. No way kobe would let that nonsense when his goal is just to win a ring

[Lebron23]

:roll:

Playoffs Stats


LeBron Stats:

28.1 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, .9 BPG, 3.5 TOPG, 47.2 FG%, 32.2 3P%, 74.9 FT%

Kobe Stats:

25.6 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 4.7 APG, 1.4 SPG, .7 BPG, 2.9 TOPG, 44.8 FG%, 33.1 3P%, 81.6 FT%

-Game 7’s-


LeBron Stats:

34.4 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 3.6 APG, 1.6 SPG, .4 BPG, 2.4 TOPG, 47.4 FG%, 31.3 3P%, 79.4 FT%

Kobe Stats:

21.4 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 5.1 APG, .9 SPG, 1.6 BPG, 2.0 TOPG, 39.5 FG%, 32.4 3P%, 70.2 FT%

-Elimination Games-

LeBron Stats:

31.9 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 6.5 APG, 1.4 SPG, .6 BPG, 4.5 TOPG, 46.5 FG%, 31.4 3P%, 73.8 FT%

Kobe Stats:

22.3 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 3.7 APG, 1.2 SPG, .6 BPG, 3.0 TOPG, 41.4 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 77.9 FT%

[ripthekik]

[QUOTE=Lebron23]Playoffs Stats


LeBron Stats:

28.1 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, .9 BPG, 3.5 TOPG, 47.2 FG%, 32.2 3P%, 74.9 FT%

Kobe Stats:

25.6 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 4.7 APG, 1.4 SPG, .7 BPG, 2.9 TOPG, 44.8 FG%, 33.1 3P%, 81.6 FT%

[B]-Game 7

[russwest0]

Does anyone know off the top of their head how many 50+ win teams LeBron beat his 7 years in Cleveland?

Just curious btw

[Lebron23]

Does anyone know off the top of their head how many 50+ win teams LeBron beat his 7 years in Cleveland?

Just curious btw


The East was so weak during that time before the Celtics formed the first modern day Big three back in 2007.

[JohnMax]

Lebron would just overshadow Kobe like hes done Dwyane Wade

[russwest0]

The East was so weak during that time before the Celtics formed the first modern day Big three back in 2007.

So you mean that Spurs team LeBron played like total shit vs in Cleveland was just one of the teams Kobe had to go through every year just to get out of the West?

Damn

[knicksman]

[QUOTE=Lebron23]Playoffs Stats


LeBron Stats:

28.1 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, .9 BPG, 3.5 TOPG, 47.2 FG%, 32.2 3P%, 74.9 FT%

Kobe Stats:

25.6 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 4.7 APG, 1.4 SPG, .7 BPG, 2.9 TOPG, 44.8 FG%, 33.1 3P%, 81.6 FT%

[B]-Game 7

[russwest0]

Lebron: 2 rings with 2 all star teammates
Kobe: 5 rings with 1 all star teammate

:roll: :roll: :roll:

:lol :lol :lol

let the guy remain delusional. Provides some good laughs for the rest of us

[VIntageNOvel]

The East was so weak during that time before the Celtics formed the first modern day Big three back in 2007.


thats why his stat has been inflated,
you cant compare beating bobcats with facing spurs 3 times a year, not apple to apple

[Lebron23]

Lebron: 2 rings with 2 all star teammates
Kobe: 5 rings with 1 all star teammate

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Prime Shaq is worth more than 2 NBA All Stars. Shaq in 2000-2004 > Wade and Bosh in 2011 to 2014.

[Lebron23]

thats why his stat has been inflated,
you cant compare beating bobcats with facing spurs 3 times a year, not apple to apple


Miami faced some solid oppositions in 2012. The Knicks, Pacers, and Celtics and Thunder were 0.540 and above teams. The Pacers won 42 games out of 66 games in 2012.

[VIntageNOvel]

bran23, i want to ask you something, off topic, serious question/not trolling
do you have all those post/stat etc saved in some sort of file?

i mean, this kobe-lebron debate has been going forever,
and i myself already tired to response it seriously, and just enjoy the flamefest,

but some people like you, pauk, laz, always reply seriously with this long post, with complete stat etc,
how do you do it?

[Trentknicks]

Miami faced some solid oppositions in 2012. The Knicks, Pacers, and Celtics and Thunder were 0.540 and above teams. The Pacers won 42 games out of 66 games in 2012.
Don't give us that garbage, the Knicks weren't that good to begin with and were injury ridden, the Pacers weren't even good and the Celtics only made it to the ECF so they could play games in Florida to pick their aged care facility of choice.

[orange_chicken]

Yeah Lebron is not only a better playoff performer he's the best playoff performer off all time 8 points against Dallas. Oh, and I wonder why he left Cleveland, I think it was because of his elite playoff performance.


Lebron is a better playoff performer than Kobe. Kobe would be his sidekick. They both have the same numbers of Finals MVP. and Lebron is a 4x NBA MVP while Kobe is a one time NBA MVP.

[TiagoSimoes]

Miami faced some solid oppositions in 2012. The Knicks, Pacers, and Celtics and Thunder were 0.540 and above teams. The Pacers won 42 games out of 66 games in 2012.

Besides the Thunder, are u mentioning teams that wouldnt get out of the 2nd round in the west? thought so

[ArbitraryWater]

So a guy who soaked the bench for his first two years supposed to be alpha.


Now, consider LeBron James. The skills are unquestionable. 25-9-6 his first game ever, 27 pts a game his 2nd season, 30 ppg in the playoffs his 3rd year...

He averaged 27 points, nearly 8 rebounds and 7 assists per game, in only his second year in the league, at the tender age of 20. He's the youngest to score 40, to get a triple double, to start in an All Star game, and the list grew every night he played.

[livinglegend]

No balls to debate, creates a thread to petition for my getting banned.:roll: :facepalm

Sad, I thought you could hang with the likes of us.:oldlol:
:oldlol:

[MichaelCorleone]

:oldlol:
Thread backfired before it even took off. OP got murked, which is rare occurrence.