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BlazerRed
02-05-2014, 02:04 AM
They have an excellent team on paper. Top 5 PG, top 5 SG, great 2-way SF, top 10 PF and rim defender C Bogut. One of the best teams on paper, and they win some tough games, but lost so many games they shouldn't.. what gives? Is it just their bench?

Smook A.
02-05-2014, 02:06 AM
Bad shooting night for them. Thompson was 3/10. Curry was 6/15. David Lee was horrible today, and their bench didn't give them much of a lift

Dubs510
02-05-2014, 02:07 AM
too many jumpers :banghead: and the worst bench in the league

El Gato Negro
02-05-2014, 02:08 AM
maybe they miss jack.

Brujesino
02-05-2014, 02:09 AM
Destroyed the clippers 2 games ago get destroyed by the bobcats at home.We are just very very inconsistent.

Smook A.
02-05-2014, 02:11 AM
Destroyed the clippers 2 games ago get destroyed by the bobcats at home.We are just very very inconsistent.
Same with my Rockets. We lose to the kings one night, then beat the Spurs without harden

Phantom_Blue
02-05-2014, 02:23 AM
Destroyed the clippers 2 games ago get destroyed by the bobcats at home.We are just very very inconsistent.

So is it just a discipline problem with these guys? I always thought it was the defense, but I hear they're not bad this year.

Most teams in the NBA can say their bench isn't sufficient, especially when you have your 5 best players in the starting lineup, like Portland.

Other teams usually balance their team out by having some specialists in the lineup and having some talent to run the 2nd unit. Yeah being a Bulls fan, im not really buying the "Not having enough talent on the bench", you win with what you got.

jdm_dc_fan
02-05-2014, 02:24 AM
barkley said it best at the beginning of the season. They're not gonna make the finals relying on jump shooting.

imnew09
02-05-2014, 02:28 AM
They definitely gotta make a trade someone to get andre miller.

Bobcats2013
02-05-2014, 02:29 AM
They're treating the regular season like it's the regular season. You see flashes of brilliance in their biggest games, and that's what helps me relax. Aslong as they make the post season they will be a threat, doesn't matter what seed they are.

BlazerRed
02-05-2014, 02:33 AM
They're treating the regular season like it's the regular season. You see flashes of brilliance in their biggest games, and that's what helps me relax. Aslong as they make the post season they will be a threat, doesn't matter what seed they are.

True..

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 02:36 AM
Well they are doing very well, just not too outstanding today. They win the next game, they'll be an outstanding 60 percent at 30 and 20. That's a great record, do you know how few teams are 60 percent in baseball? It's still a fantastic record and I congratulate them.

JohnFreeman
02-05-2014, 02:38 AM
Live by the three, you die by the three

Fallen Angel
02-05-2014, 02:49 AM
Hilarious how some people thought they were better than the Rockets.

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 02:58 AM
Hilarious how some people thought they were better than the Rockets.


Well u never know, but either way the Rockets are elite. They have 2 stars.

Fallen Angel
02-05-2014, 03:01 AM
Well u never know, but either way the Rockets are elite. They have 2 stars.

Still, nobody wants to face Golden State in the first round.

Smook A.
02-05-2014, 03:01 AM
Well u never know, but either way the Rockets are elite. They have 2 stars.
Finally a positive comment about the Rockets.

Milbuck
02-05-2014, 03:05 AM
The Rockets are good, but their lack of star power is going to seriously hurt them in the playoffs.

LONGTIME
02-05-2014, 03:06 AM
Still, nobody wants to face Golden State in the first round.

A real contender doesn't give a **** who they have to face in the first round.

bdreason
02-05-2014, 03:23 AM
too many jumpers :banghead: and the worst bench in the league


Pretty much this.

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 03:24 AM
This just shows how good the Warriors are. I mean they are almost 60 percent, 9 games over .500 and people think they are not playing as well as they can. Imagine 3 or 4 years ago I would have told you that the Warriors were 9 games over 500 and weren't even playing as well as they could be. As a Warriors fan you'd take that all day. 29- 20 is fabulous. 1 more win and they will be 30 and 20. Do you know how good 60 percent is in baseball let alone basketball? I mean 60 percent is something the Yankees would strive for when they'd be a top team every year. The Warriors are doing GREAT.

Im so nba'd out
02-05-2014, 03:27 AM
They have an excellent team on paper. Top 5 PG, top 5 SG, great 2-way SF, top 10 PF and rim defender C Bogut. One of the best teams on paper, and they win some tough games, but lost so many games they shouldn't.. what gives? Is it just their bench?
:biggums:

Embers
02-05-2014, 03:31 AM
Jackson is also a pretty terrible coach

What type of coach spends 12 mill on a bloke and works 7 shots a game for him in 36 mins (Iggy). Career wide he normally averages about 11 shots a game at 45% or so. He needs to be taking that many shots and atleast trying to be a scoring threat.

The worst coaching move in the league atm though is Jacksons use of Andrew Bogut. He is shooting at 64% but takes 6 shots a game from 27 minutes. Is he kidding or what? Bogut is a scoring C as he showed with the Bucks. He can put up 15+ a night and grab 10 boards but he is never involved in the offense. All he gets is fricken offensive rebound looks. He is a great passer too.

Stop taking so many contested jump shots. Give the ball to Bogut in the post and let him go to work every now and then. Give Iggy the ball and have him post up a guard. Get Harrison Barnes into the starting 5 and have him post up the SF like he was doing in the play offs.

Jackson is trying to play this ridiculous jump shot high tempo shooting game despite the fact he has a slow offense style team at the heart of it all.

T_L_P
02-05-2014, 03:31 AM
So the moral of the story is if Curry or Thompson don't get hot the game is over?

Good luck in the post-season, Warriors fans :oldlol:

Warfan
02-05-2014, 03:45 AM
Honestly im doubtful right now we would get out of the first round, i guess i was just really overreacting to the win streak we had. Klay has been shooting poorly as of late, our bench is shit, and its been tough on barnes being the 6th man that has to create for himself and the bench considering what his role was last year. We need a second ball handler off the bench and I wouldn't mind seeing bogut being used more in the offense along with iggy, need to stop taking so many jumpers, well mainly contested ones. Hopefully we can start playing some better ball soon even though I won't be able to watch any games for a week or 2

:rant :rant :banghead:

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 05:11 AM
And yet the Warriors are still winning approximately 60 percent of their games... :facepalm They are doing very well guys.

ImKobe
02-05-2014, 05:22 AM
They rely too much on jump shots, like OKC in 2012. When the jumper is not falling, any team can beat them. They have top 5 most talented team in the league, but their system sucks.

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 05:33 AM
They rely too much on jump shots, like OKC in 2012. When the jumper is not falling, any team can beat them. They have top 5 most talented team in the league, but their system sucks.


What system? And why are they winning more than half their games then?

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
02-05-2014, 05:37 AM
they dont have an identity. Youd think theyd have an elite offense with Curry/Klay/Lee/Iggy but theyre an avg offense at best. Some games they try to shoot u out but really most of the big games theyve won was b/c of their elite defense of Bogut/Iggy than the offense

JBrizzy
02-05-2014, 05:37 AM
And yet the Warriors are still winning approximately 60 percent of their games... :facepalm They are doing very well guys.

They win more than they lose but they haven't lived up to expectations.

kurple
02-05-2014, 05:59 AM
They definitely gotta make a trade someone to get andre miller.
yes

kurple
02-05-2014, 06:00 AM
Pretty much this.
people acted like landry and jack wouldnt be missed


:coleman:

gin17
02-05-2014, 06:24 AM
They definitely gotta make a trade someone to get andre miller.
yes. they need a veteran and a ballhandler for the 2nd unit

kurple
02-05-2014, 06:31 AM
do the warriors have their 1st round pick?

caus they dont exactly have a lot of assets. unless they are ready to give up on Barnes (really doubt that)

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 06:39 AM
people acted like landry and jack wouldnt be missed


:coleman:


Their record last year was 12 games over 500. They are 9 games over 500 and are still likely to end up with a better record. I don't get why people don't understand that the Warriors are doing very well.

RightToCensor
02-05-2014, 06:45 AM
OP after the NFC Championship Game

http://12dotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/bandwagon.jpg

T_L_P
02-05-2014, 06:47 AM
Their record last year was 12 games over 500. They are 9 games over 500 and are still likely to end up with a better record. I don't get why people don't understand that the Warriors are doing very well.

They're the 7th seed with a roster that should be competing for a top 3 spot :confusedshrug:

Dresta
02-05-2014, 06:57 AM
Thompson isn't nearly as good as a lot of people think and takes far too many shots.

kurple
02-05-2014, 06:59 AM
Their record last year was 12 games over 500. They are 9 games over 500 and are still likely to end up with a better record. I don't get why people don't understand that the Warriors are doing very well.
they are doing well if the goal is to make the playoffs.

but people were talking possible contender in the summer

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 07:00 AM
They're the 7th seed with a roster that should be competing for a top 3 spot :confusedshrug:


But they don't have the bench for that.

kurple
02-05-2014, 07:01 AM
But they don't have the bench for that.
neither do the pacers and blazers. or even OKC with Brook out

Olacinco
02-05-2014, 07:04 AM
Klassic Klay ain't a top 5 SG lol

And Crawford has turned into Iman shumpert

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 07:04 AM
neither do the pacers and blazers. or even OKC with Brook out


But they are doing it. The Warriors are what they are and Lee was hurt tonight. Warriors are looking forward to HEAT game and to rest in the AS break

andremiller07
02-05-2014, 07:08 AM
Kings will give you Carl Landry back if you want

Bobcats2013
02-05-2014, 07:12 AM
they are doing well if the goal is to make the playoffs.

but people were talking possible contender in the summer

Regular season isn't the playoffs Kurple. You of all people should know that considering how the Warriors were suppose to be a stepping stone for your Denver Nuggets and then gave SA hell without Lee and an injured Curry. They're as legit as the other squads are to get out of the west.

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 07:12 AM
Kings will give you Carl Landry back if you want


how is that possible

andremiller07
02-05-2014, 07:13 AM
how is that possible
A trade maybe

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 07:15 AM
A trade maybe


why would sac do that

andremiller07
02-05-2014, 07:17 AM
why would sac do that
Cause he was a terrible signing to begin with considering we didn't need him and with the addition of Acy/Williams we need him even less.

Honestly atm it is the only idiotic move the franchise has made.

kurple
02-05-2014, 07:18 AM
does GSW even have the players to match his (Landy) salary?

would make sense, as he knows the system, coaches and players

kurple
02-05-2014, 07:19 AM
Honestly atm it is the only idiotic move the franchise has made.
Kings??

andremiller07
02-05-2014, 07:19 AM
does GSW even have the players to match his (Landy) salary?

would make sense, as he knows the system, coaches and players
Just realised they can't package Crawford or Brooks so probably not.


Kings??
Since new management took over I meant to say

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 07:22 AM
Speights?

JebronLames
02-05-2014, 07:35 AM
Coasting.

Fallen Angel
02-05-2014, 07:41 AM
Their record last year was 12 games over 500. They are 9 games over 500 and are still likely to end up with a better record. I don't get why people don't understand that the Warriors are doing very well.

Because at this rate they will finish with 48 wins, just 2 more than last year. Iguadala was supposed to be the missing piece no? I imagine anything less than a fifty win season will be disappointing for golden state.

All Net
02-05-2014, 08:03 AM
Doesn't help the west is tough as hell

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 08:25 AM
Because at this rate they will finish with 48 wins, just 2 more than last year. Iguadala was supposed to be the missing piece no? I imagine anything less than a fifty win season will be disappointing for golden state.


But the West got tougher and they lost Jack, Landry, and Biedrins. Don't count out Biedrins, he was helping them gel in defense.

ZenMaster
02-05-2014, 08:32 AM
So is it just a discipline problem with these guys? I always thought it was the defense, but I hear they're not bad this year.

Most teams in the NBA can say their bench isn't sufficient, especially when you have your 5 best players in the starting lineup, like Portland.

Other teams usually balance their team out by having some specialists in the lineup and having some talent to run the 2nd unit. Yeah being a Bulls fan, im not really buying the "Not having enough talent on the bench", you win with what you got.

Is the subject so black and white that you just label a bench either sufficient or insufficient?

Most teams wish they had a better bench but the level of play from those units still vary even though you can label a lot of them insufficient.

Anyways, Barnes was supposed to be their main guy off the bench, but he hasn't been doing good at all.

kurple
02-05-2014, 08:56 AM
Doesn't help the west is tough as hell
it's equally tough for PHX and Portland

i'm not saying the west isnt tough, but it's easy to find exuces. I personally think Mark Jackson is the problem.

poido123
02-05-2014, 09:14 AM
Hilarious how some people thought they were better than the Rockets.


They are better than the rockets.

I'll bet anyone money on a matchup between the two in the playoffs.

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 09:15 AM
They are better than the rockets.

I'll bet anyone money on a matchup between the two in the playoffs.


No. The records show. And Houston owns GSW.

poido123
02-05-2014, 09:21 AM
No. The records show. And Houston owns GSW.

We have no history in the playoffs to go by when considering the current cores of both teams...

Well not with the recent major acquisitions. But I guarantee the Warriors will bring it. Not so sure Harden or Howard are gonna turn up when the pressure is on. Warriors showed last year how dangerous they can be, and that was with an injured Lee, no Iggy. Curry is clutch as fck, as shown against the Spurs last year..

Frozen1
02-05-2014, 09:30 AM
Too many jumpers and streaky and overrated players will only take you so far.

Marlo_Stanfield
02-05-2014, 09:37 AM
Warrioirs are a joke. Curry is a joke with his jumpshooting ass.
maybe they can make some noise in the playoffs but if they dont get mega hot theyll bounce right out of the first round and jacksons face will look more stupid than ever:facepalm

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 09:45 AM
Man, I thought Jordan Crawford would have been so much better for them. Once he gets into the system I think he will be the spark off the bench for them that they need


I think he's playing at his true level

Fallen Angel
02-05-2014, 10:18 AM
They are better than the rockets.

I'll bet anyone money on a matchup between the two in the playoffs.

lol

The Rockets have won 5 of the last 6 games against them and they have a better record. lol

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 10:45 AM
lol

The Rockets have won 5 of the last 6 games against them and they have a better record. lol


Rockets would be the favorite for sure

ArbitraryWater
02-05-2014, 10:55 AM
LeBron to go to GSW this summer and turn a first round fooder into a title team :applause: (Like with the Heat)

Marlo_Stanfield
02-05-2014, 11:32 AM
LeBron to go to GSW this summer and turn a first round fooder into a title team :applause: (Like with the Heat)
LeBron with those three point snipers and a good defensive Center:eek: :eek: :bowdown:

ArbitraryWater
02-05-2014, 11:38 AM
LeBron with those three point snipers and a good defensive Center:eek: :eek: :bowdown:

Oh my :bowdown: :bowdown: :rockon:

jens steiner :pimp:

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 11:48 AM
LeBron to go to GSW this summer and turn a first round fooder into a title team :applause: (Like with the Heat)


Who would they give up? Lee and Iggy? Why would Lebron come when he has Miami & Cleveland? Lebron ain't coming to GSW, that's a pipe dream

Darius
02-05-2014, 11:55 AM
All teams live and die by the luck of shooting.

Warriors are worst than most though as they rely even more on jump shots.

They need to get to the line more (20th) and get some more points in the paint to be more consistent.

They should be far better than they are based on their personnel. Maybe Mark Jackson needs to be looked at.

Obviously, if they catch fire in the playoffs, they can beat anyone.

Solefade
02-05-2014, 01:01 PM
no heart or clutchness

rufuspaul
02-05-2014, 02:18 PM
You live by the jump shot, you die by the jump shot. If it's not going in and you're playing against a defensive-minded team then you get the result you got last night. Also everyone is having trouble containing Al Jefferson lately.

Le Shaqtus
02-05-2014, 02:57 PM
A wise man once said.

In life you go where the winners are.

mr beast
02-05-2014, 05:57 PM
live and die by the 3

that's their problem. even at the pro level and the insane accuracy they are shooting, it's just not enough to win consistently


all their primary scorers are shooters, no legit interior threat on offense.

ralph_i_el
02-05-2014, 06:01 PM
They get lazy and don't go to the rim. Curry and Thompson are both minus defenders. Lee is a huge minus. When iggy is off the floor they play no D

NumberSix
02-05-2014, 06:05 PM
They have an excellent team on paper. Top 5 PG, top 5 SG, great 2-way SF, top 10 PF and rim defender C Bogut. One of the best teams on paper, and they win some tough games, but lost so many games they shouldn't.. what gives? Is it just their bench?

It's a Oakland thang and bitch you wouldn't understand.

kurple
02-05-2014, 06:06 PM
A wise man once said.

In life you go where the winners are.
lol, who the **** said that?

stupidest shit ever

oarabbus
02-05-2014, 06:16 PM
lol, who the **** said that?

stupidest shit ever

That moron SacJB Shady


They get lazy and don't go to the rim. Curry and Thompson are both minus defenders. Lee is a huge minus. When iggy is off the floor they play no D

Doesn't watch Warriors confirmed

Darius
02-05-2014, 06:23 PM
Why is Mark Jackson getting a pass with this team?

Look at their roster. They should be at the top of the West.

They have shooting, they have passing, they have guys that can score inside, they have penetration, they have a strong rim protect, they have a defensive stopper.

Le Shaqtus
02-05-2014, 06:30 PM
lol, who the **** said that?

stupidest shit ever

Shady :lol

oarabbus
02-05-2014, 06:35 PM
Why is Mark Jackson getting a pass with this team?

Look at their roster. They should be at the top of the West.

They have shooting, they have passing, they have guys that can score inside, they have penetration, they have a strong rim protect, they have a defensive stopper.

Jackson... has been iffy at times. I mean who the **** draws up a Curry pullup 3 off the dribble play when you have 35 seconds left in the 4th DOWN BY 2 :facepalm and that game was very winnable against the Wiz...


Jackson draws up (or allows) WAY too many semi-contested Curry 3s in the final 2 mins :facepalm

poido123
02-05-2014, 07:28 PM
lol

The Rockets have won 5 of the last 6 games against them and they have a better record. lol


Does regular season wins equate to a better team in the playoffs? Just curious...


You guys have an ordinary coach, Harden can disappear in playoffs like we've seen back in his OKC days, and Howard can be unpredictable.


I'm confident Warriors will beat them in a playoff situation.

SacJB Shady
02-05-2014, 07:34 PM
The Warriors are 1 win away from a .600 percent winning pct and y'all are complaining?? Not many times in the last 20 years have the Warriors been at 60 percent! They could win more games this year than since the Hardaway days and y'all are complaining? The West is just tough, but GSW would be 3rd in the East! Look at the big picture! GSW is BALLIN yo! GSW ain't winning despite Mark Jackson but BECAUSE of him yo.

NugzFan
02-05-2014, 07:47 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Klay has the worst shot selection in the league? It seems like he has a green light to jack up any jumper he wants whenever he wants. So overrated.

LONGTIME
02-05-2014, 08:22 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Klay has the worst shot selection in the league? It seems like he has a green light to jack up any jumper he wants whenever he wants. So overrated.

You could say the same thing about Curry.

oarabbus
02-05-2014, 08:24 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Klay has the worst shot selection in the league? It seems like he has a green light to jack up any jumper he wants whenever he wants. So overrated.

:biggums:

How you gonna say this when JR Smith, Josh Smith Brandon Jennings to name a FEW are in the league? :facepalm

finchyyy
02-05-2014, 08:41 PM
I think he's playing at his true level

Brad Stevens COTY

winwin
12-24-2014, 08:37 PM
it takes time