If the NBA is rigged...

[moe94]

How come they didn't try for a Kobe vs LeBron Finals?

How did the Pistons win?

How come the Spurs have been so successful?

Did they try and just mess up? :confusedshrug:

[JohnFreeman]

Didn't the league want 09 to be Kobe V LeBron?

[russwest0]

Moe, your logic is horrible man.

Decent poster, just complete shit for logic.

[livinglegend]

not rigged, but some games are influenced by the league ( see Lakers playoffs run last season + 2002 WCF)

[TheMarkMadsen]

Didn't the league want 09 to be Kobe V LeBron?


yeah, but the Magic didn't

[Leftimage]

How come they didn't try for a Kobe vs LeBron Finals?

How did the Pistons win?

How come the Spurs have been so successful?

Did they try and just mess up? :confusedshrug:

Only retards think the league is rigged from the top. Now, shady officials betting on games.... Mayyyyyyybe but I woudn't bet on it (wink)

[TheMarkMadsen]

you know how when you have all the answers to the test, you'll miss a few on purpose as to not be obvious..

[JohnFreeman]

yeah, but the Magic didn't
****ing Magic.

[aj1987]

you know how when you have all the answers to the test, you'll miss a few on purpose as to not be obvious..
Who the **** does that and what kind of shitty school doubts students who score 100%?

[moe94]

Moe, your logic is horrible man.

Decent poster, just complete shit for logic.

Do you actually think it's flat out rigged?

You keep saying logic as a way to disregard and dodge posts.

[navy]

No, the NBA is not rigged. The refs are just terrible. At the end of the day you have to make buckets.

[gts]

If you think the game is rigged and you still watch it, still spend your money on NBA inspired gear or buy tickets to games then you're a moron... :lol

[russwest0]

Do you actually think it's flat out rigged?

You keep saying logic as a way to disregard and dodge posts.

Question: Do you think the NBA has/ever has had meetings with officials where they discuss favoring superstars, giving them 50/50 calls, not calling a 2nd foul on a star in the 1st quarter, etc..

?

[moe94]

Question: Do you think the NBA has/ever has had meetings with officials where they discuss favoring superstars, giving them 50/50 calls, not calling a 2nd foul on a star in the 1st quarter, etc..

?

Is that you flexing some logic? Is this you thinking you have a point? :roll:

[JT123]

If you think the game is rigged and you still watch it, still spend your money on NBA inspired gear or buy tickets to games then you're a moron... :lol
cough russwest0 cough

[russwest0]

Is that you flexing some logic? Is this you thinking you have a point?

You gonna answer the question?

[NumberSix]

NBA is rigged, for OKC.

[secund2nun]

They did try for it. Rigging can only influence certain outcomes. It cannot impose its will on the outcome of a game.

[Warfan]

they tried but lebron choked and quit on his team
jk

[secund2nun]

Question: Do you think the NBA has/ever has had meetings with officials where they discuss favoring superstars, giving them 50/50 calls, not calling a 2nd foul on a star in the 1st quarter, etc..

?

There must be some kind of communication system for the rigging. The refs have to get the word somehow. It could be a secret meeting. Maybe there is just a general policy (favor big market teams and/or teams with marketable superstars)

[JT123]

Question: Do you think the NBA has/ever has had meetings with officials where they discuss favoring superstars, giving them 50/50 calls, not calling a 2nd foul on a star in the 1st quarter, etc..

?
You are always claiming the league is pro Lebron, yet Bron has fouled out of two very important games in the ECF each of the last 2 years! :eek:
Why would the officials do this if the league was giving them marching orders to get the Heat to the finals? And it isn't like the calls were obvious and Lebron didn't leave them a choice. In both instances the fouls called on him were very contraversial to say the least. :coleman:

[russwest0]

they tried but lebron choked and quit on his team

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[moe94]

You gonna answer the question?

Do you have any real points? Superstar calls is nothing new or controversial. Say something since you're so adamant in this conspiracy theory.

[russwest0]

Moe94 refusing to answer the question in his own thread

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[moe94]

Moe94 refusing to answer the question in his own thread

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Superstar calls for the Pistons to win. :applause:

[russwest0]

Answer the question and I'll take your thread seriously.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CvDscFu0_uY/TVdv0vVWswI/AAAAAAAAABs/doiKKCrAkcU/s1600/Tim+Donaghy.jpg

[russwest0]

Superstar calls for the Pistons to win. :applause:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nyu69Oj1q4

Just about got ****ed over. Were too good of a team though.

[moe94]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nyu69Oj1q4

Just about got ****ed over. Were too good of a team though.

It's rigged but not when it's not. You're embarrassing.

Why do you watch this sport if you think it's rigged and without integrity? Explain that one first. :biggums:

[russwest0]

You refuse to answer basic questions that would point to the league being rigged and just throw out a Red Herring: "What about this team winning it all in this year!!?!!"

It's embarrassing on your end dude. I recommend going to college (if not already) if and only if to take a logic class.

[aj1987]

It's rigged but not when it's not. You're embarrassing.

Why do you watch this sport if you think it's rigged and without integrity? Explain that one first. :biggums:
STFU, dude. The refs put magnets in the ball and the rim. That's how Wade (career 30(?)% FT shooter) made that fadeaway 3. That was refs!

[moe94]

Why do you watch a sport you believe is rigged and then complain about calls? This isn't about logic. It's about your lunacy.

[JT123]

Answer the question and I'll take your thread seriously.
I answered your question. You obviously have nothing logical to respond with. :lol

[CavaliersFTW]

Didn't the league want 09 to be Kobe V LeBron?
Yes but all the help in the world from Stern still wasn't enough to overcome Lebron's choking years.

[secund2nun]

Yes but all the help in the world from Stern still wasn't enough to overcome Lebron's choking years.

All the help in the world wasn't enough to overcome the Cavalier's incompetent ownership and players.

Lebron nearly went 30/20/10 in game 6 while shutting down Pierce, but somehow it was his fault while his teammates (especially Mo) got destroyed. Mo made Rondo look like Magic Johnson while doing nothing offensively. Lebron quitting in 2010 is just one of those myths that has no basis in reality.

[russwest0]

STFU, dude. The refs put magnets in the ball and the rim. That's how Wade (career 30(?)% FT shooter) made that fadeaway 3. That was refs!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Red Herrings everywhere. Heat score 17 points in the Final minute and a half with complete bullshit calls and you point to Wade making a 3. You are a Wade stan though so that hidden agenda is easy to sniff out.

What about the call with the Pistons player looking right at the ref and saying timeout and being ignored and given the 5 second call? Was that Wades fault?

(This is the logic you use...)

[russwest0]

Yes but all the help in the world from Stern still wasn't enough to overcome Lebron's choking years.

Truth. Cavs were getting all the help in the world from the refs that year but it didn't matter because Orlando just went apeshit from 3pt land.

[ProfessorMurder]

- I believe individual games can be fixed, but things aren't plotted out in season arcs. Deciding full seasons would take too much work and hinge on too many things.

- I believe certain players are chosen to be protected, while others are deliberately blackballed and screwed over.

[russwest0]

Why do you watch a sport you believe is rigged and then complain about calls? This isn't about logic. It's about your lunacy.

Yes, my lunacy when you, in your own thread about discussing this, are ignoring basic questions that, to any logical person, would suggest that the league is rigged.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Hell, this may tell me that you are actually a bit rational, you just put the blinders on to remain a happy idiot.

[CavaliersFTW]

All the help in the world wasn't enough to overcome the Cavalier's incompetent ownership and players.

Lebron nearly went 30/20/10 in game 6 while shutting down Pierce, but somehow it was his fault while his teammates (especially Mo) got destroyed. Mo made Rondo look like Magic Johnson while doing nothing offensively. Lebron quitting in 2010 is just one of those myths that has no basis in reality.
Nice try but I actually watched the game. So did others:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV80e3lF1LA

http://img.pandawhale.com/67037-Christian-Bale-oh-kiss-reactio-NZEo.gif

[iamgine]

The thing we need to answer first is, does influencing games through officials training the same as rigging?

[JT123]

Nice try but I actually watched the game. So did others:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV80e3lF1LA

http://img.pandawhale.com/67037-Christian-Bale-oh-kiss-reactio-NZEo.gif
:facepalm He had 19 rebounds in the final game of the series. How the hell does a small forward get 19 rebounds if he isn't trying to win?! :hammerhead:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Yes but all the help in the world from Stern still wasn't enough to overcome Lebron's choking years.

Please explain how he choked in '09. But I'll understand if you don't respond.

[aj1987]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Red Herrings everywhere. Heat score 17 points in the Final minute and a half with complete bullshit calls and you point to Wade making a 3. You are a Wade stan though so that hidden agenda is easy to sniff out.

What about the call with the Pistons player looking right at the ref and saying timeout and being ignored and given the 5 second call? Was that Wades fault?

(This is the logic you use...)
You know that your theory goes to shit, if Wade doesn't make that miraculous 3, right? Wade makes normal 3's at a 29% rate. At that point of his career, he was at 24% for made 3's.

[CavaliersFTW]

:facepalm He had 19 rebounds in the final game of the series. How the hell does a small forward get 19 rebounds if he isn't trying to win?! :hammerhead:
Did you watch the game?

I remember the look on his face with 3 minutes left in the 4th quite clearly. Looked like the blank 2 mile stare of a shell shocked war veteran. Lebron gave up, just seemed to stop trying altogether, and the game was still quite winnable. There's no stat for choking.

[russwest0]

You know that your theory goes to shit, if Wade doesn't make that miraculous 3, right? Wade makes normal 3's at a 29% rate. At that point of his career, he was at 24% for made 3's.

What theory goes to shit...?

[Leftimage]

- I believe individual games can be fixed, but things aren't plotted out in season arcs. Deciding full seasons would take too much work and hinge on too many things.

- I believe certain players are chosen to be protected, while others are deliberately blackballed and screwed over.

/thread.

[aj1987]

What theory goes to shit...?
That the NBA is fixed.

[JohnFreeman]

http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/duncan-parker-crawford-guns.jpg

[russwest0]

That the NBA is fixed.

Are you trolling or just this big of a moron?

[aj1987]

Are you trolling or just this big of a moron?
Why did you run away like a little bitch from the Wade/Dirk thread?

[russwest0]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Yeah, you're a clown.

[aj1987]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Yeah, you're a clown.
As I said in the other thread, when you people can't come up with facts to backup your wild and outlandish claims, you resort to insulting people.

[russwest0]

As I said in the other thread, when you people can't come up with facts to backup your wild and outlandish claims, you resort to insulting people.

You literally just said that Wade hitting a 3 pointer (in a game where the ultimate goal of covering the spread is met either way due to one sided officiating) is proof that the league isn't rigged. And you DON'T expect me to call you a dumbass afterwards?

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[UK2K]

Tha pacers game looked rigged

Two pee wee passes straight to the pacers under their basket?

Point shaving at its finest. The LMA pass, dude could have thrown it ANYWHERE on the floor other than where he threw it and it would have been just fine lol instead he threw it right to David west, who wasn't moving, under his basket.

LMA probably had cheddar riding on the game.

[russwest0]

Tha pacers game looked rigged

Two pee wee passes straight to the pacers under their basket?

Point shaving at its finest. The LMA pass, dude could have thrown it ANYWHERE on the floor other than where he threw it and it would have been just fine lol instead he threw it right to David west, who wasn't moving, under his basket.

LMA probably had cheddar riding on the game.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

You're making us rationalists look bad.

[aj1987]

You literally just said that Wade hitting a 3 pointer (in a game where the ultimate goal of covering the spread is met either way due to one sided officiating) is proof that the league isn't rigged. And you DON'T expect me to call you a dumbass afterwards?

:oldlol: :oldlol:
So, what would've happened if Wade missed that 3?


Why are you avoiding this (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=325008&page=2) thread doe?

[russwest0]

So, what would've happened if Wade missed that 3?


Why are you avoiding this (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=325008&page=2) thread doe?

Alright, I'll hit up that thread and shit on you per request

[aj1987]

Alright, I'll hit up that thread and shit on you per request
Insulting people without disputing any of their facts makes you look like a 12 year old kid (which you are). Now run along.

[UK2K]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

You're making us rationalists look bad.
Lol it looked awfully shady, and i wanted indiana to win.

[orange_chicken]

If you wager on NBA games for a living then you'd know whether if the league is rigged or not.

[russwest0]

If you wager on NBA games for a living then you'd know whether if the league is rigged or not.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[mehyaM24]

only championship that is tainted is dwhistles 2006...really when you remove that year with an asterisk, there isnt much of a difference between he and byron scott....2nd/3rd best player riding along for championships....

[secund2nun]

Nice try but I actually watched the game. So did others:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV80e3lF1LA

http://img.pandawhale.com/67037-Christian-Bale-oh-kiss-reactio-NZEo.gif

I watched all of the games.

So let me get this straight...Lebron had 27 points 19 rebounds and 10 assists in game 6, after he apparently quit? And Lebron averaged 27-9-7 on 19 shots per game for the entire series (being doubled and tripled) while also shutting down one of the best SFs in the league the entire series AND every single Cavs player was raped in that series except Lebron while Rondo/KG and company destroyed Cleveland?:roll: :roll: :roll:

You must think Lebron is gawd if he can go for 27-19-10 against one of the best teams in the NBA while quitting?

Appreciate the 7 years Lebron gave that hell foresaken franchise. No need to make up lies. It would have been 7 years of lottery picks and Larry Hughes max contracts if not for Lebron.

[GrapeApe]

only championship that is tainted is dwhistles 2006...really when you remove that year with an asterisk, there isnt much of a difference between he and byron scott....2nd/3rd best player riding along for championships....

Byron Scott? I seriously hope you're trolling or being sarcastic.

As for the '06 finals, why did the "rigging" only start when the Heat were down 0-2 in the series and trailing by 13 points in the fourth quarter? The irony is that if the Mavs had made their free throws down the stretch they would have won. Let me repeat that. The Mavs had multiple chances to ice the game (and essentially the series) AT THE FREE THROW LINE.

[El Gato Negro]

I watched all of the games.

So let me get this straight...Lebron had 27 points 19 rebounds and 10 assists in game 6, after he apparently quit? And Lebron averaged 27-9-7 on 19 shots per game for the entire series (being doubled and tripled) while also shutting down one of the best SFs in the league the entire series AND every single Cavs player was raped in that series except Lebron while Rondo/KG and company destroyed Cleveland?:roll: :roll: :roll:

You must think Lebron is gawd if he can go for 27-19-10 against one of the best teams in the NBA while quitting?

Appreciate the 7 years Lebron gave that hell foresaken franchise. No need to make up lies. It would have been 7 years of lottery picks and Larry Hughes max contracts if not for Lebron.
Clearly you didn't see the end of the game where mike brown is screaming for the team to foul with a minute and a half left and bron waves him off quitting. there's no defending it, he quit. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-v5qIApQK0c

[ILLsmak]

If you think the game is rigged and you still watch it, still spend your money on NBA inspired gear or buy tickets to games then you're a moron... :lol

why, it's basketball. If there was a non rigged option, that would be different, but there isn't.

-Smak