4th quarter Playoff scoring leaders since 1997

[Deuce Bigalow]

4th quarter scoring leader during the Playoffs since 1997 (1997 is the earliest these stats are available)
*Minimum 10 games

1997
MJ: 9.6 ppg on 49/18/84

1998
MJ: 9.0 ppg on 45/14/81

1999
Sprewell: 6.1 ppg on 42/43/84 (6 players ahead played under 10 games)

2000
Shaq: 9.0 ppg on 67/0/49 (Payton #1 - 5 games)

2001
Kobe: 8.0 ppg on 49/39/82

2002
Kobe: 8.1 ppg on 49/50/79

2003
Kobe: 9.6 ppg on 45/37/88

2004
KG: 6.7 ppg on 47/33/71 (Boykins #1 - 5 games, Marbury #2 - 4 games)

2005
Amare: 8.6 ppg on 61/0/77

2006
Lebron: 9.8 ppg on 44/31//71 (Arenas #1 - 5 games)

2007
Lebron: 8.6 ppg on 46/36/73 (Bosh #1 - 5 games)

2008
Kobe: 9.2 ppg on 47/45/82

2009
Lebron: 8.8 ppg on 46/19/76

2010
Lebron: 8.6 ppg on 53/45/67 (Wade #1 - 5 games)

2011
Dirk: 9.9 ppg on 51/53/94

2012
Durant: 8.3 ppg on 54/43/81

2013
N. Robinson: 7.5 ppg on 54/35/85

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerGeneral.html?GameSegment=&Period=4&PlayerPosition=&StarterBench=&PlayerExperience=&OpponentTeamID=0&VsConference=&VsDivision=&Outcome=&Location=&DateFrom=&DateTo=&SeasonSegment=&Month=0&LastNGames=0&PlusMinus=N&Rank=N&splits=Y&sortField=PTS&sortOrder=DES&SeasonType=Playoffs&filters=GP*G*3&PerMode=PerGame&pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25&Season=1996-97&columnOrder=PLAYER_NAME%2CGP%2CMIN%2CFG_PCT%2CFG3_ PCT%2CFT_PCT%2CPTS%2CPLUS_MINUS

[TheMarkMadsen]

MJ, Kobe, Lebron, Nate Robinson

pretty much what i'd expect

but seriously though awesome stats :applause:

[russwest0]

2012
Durant: 8.3 ppg on 54/43/81

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Leftimage]

Kobe & Lebron :applause: :applause:

Dirk 11' :eek: :eek: It's sad that Lebron's bad performance that year overshadowed Dirk.

[Warfan]

4th quarter scoring leader during the Playoffs since 1997 (1997 is the earliest these stats are available)
*Minimum 10 games

1997
MJ: 9.6 ppg on 49/18/84

1998
MJ: 9.0 ppg on 45/14/81

1999
Sprewell: 6.1 ppg on 42/43/84 (6 players ahead played under 10 games)

2000
Shaq: 9.0 ppg on 67/0/49 (Payton #1 - 5 games)

2001
Kobe: 8.0 ppg on 49/39/82

2002
Kobe: 8.1 ppg on 49/50/79

2003
Kobe: 9.6 ppg on 45/37/88

2004
KG: 6.7 ppg on 47/33/71 (Boykins #1 - 5 games, Marbury #2 - 4 games)

2005
Amare: 8.6 ppg on 61/0/77

2006
Lebron: 9.8 ppg on 44/31//71 (Arenas #1 - 5 games)

2007
Lebron: 8.6 ppg on 46/36/73 (Bosh #1 - 5 games)

2008
Kobe: 9.2 ppg on 47/45/82

2009
Lebron: 8.8 ppg on 46/19/76

2010
Lebron: 8.6 ppg on 53/45/67 (Wade #1 - 5 games)

2011
Dirk: 9.9 ppg on 51/53/94

2012
Durant: 8.3 ppg on 54/43/81

2013
N. Robinson: 7.5 ppg on 54/35/85

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerGeneral.html?GameSegment=&Period=4&PlayerPosition=&StarterBench=&PlayerExperience=&OpponentTeamID=0&VsConference=&VsDivision=&Outcome=&Location=&DateFrom=&DateTo=&SeasonSegment=&Month=0&LastNGames=0&PlusMinus=N&Rank=N&splits=Y&sortField=PTS&sortOrder=DES&SeasonType=Playoffs&filters=GP*G*3&PerMode=PerGame&pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25&Season=1996-97&columnOrder=PLAYER_NAME%2CGP%2CMIN%2CFG_PCT%2CFG3_ PCT%2CFT_PCT%2CPTS%2CPLUS_MINUS

Nice find :applause:


N. Robinson: 7.5 ppg on 54/35/85

:bowdown: :bowdown: That huge game against the nets

[TheMarkMadsen]

4th quarter scoring leader during the Playoffs since 1997 (1997 is the earliest these stats are available)
*Minimum 10 games

1997
MJ: 9.6 ppg on 49/18/84

1998
MJ: 9.0 ppg on 45/14/81

1999
Sprewell: 6.1 ppg on 42/43/84 (6 players ahead played under 10 games)

2000
Shaq: 9.0 ppg on 67/0/49 (Payton #1 - 5 games)

2001
Kobe: 8.0 ppg on 49/39/82

2002
Kobe: 8.1 ppg on 49/50/79

2003
Kobe: 9.6 ppg on 45/37/88

2004
KG: 6.7 ppg on 47/33/71 (Boykins #1 - 5 games, Marbury #2 - 4 games)

2005
Amare: 8.6 ppg on 61/0/77

2006
Lebron: 9.8 ppg on 44/31//71 (Arenas #1 - 5 games)

2007
Lebron: 8.6 ppg on 46/36/73 (Bosh #1 - 5 games)

2008
Kobe: 9.2 ppg on 47/45/82

2009
Lebron: 8.8 ppg on 46/19/76

2010
Lebron: 8.6 ppg on 53/45/67 (Wade #1 - 5 games)

2011
Dirk: 9.9 ppg on 51/53/94

2012
Durant: 8.3 ppg on 54/43/81

2013
N. Robinson: 7.5 ppg on 54/35/85

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerGeneral.html?GameSegment=&Period=4&PlayerPosition=&StarterBench=&PlayerExperience=&OpponentTeamID=0&VsConference=&VsDivision=&Outcome=&Location=&DateFrom=&DateTo=&SeasonSegment=&Month=0&LastNGames=0&PlusMinus=N&Rank=N&splits=Y&sortField=PTS&sortOrder=DES&SeasonType=Playoffs&filters=GP*G*3&PerMode=PerGame&pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25&Season=1996-97&columnOrder=PLAYER_NAME%2CGP%2CMIN%2CFG_PCT%2CFG3_ PCT%2CFT_PCT%2CPTS%2CPLUS_MINUS


:wtf: Dirk & Kobe ungodly from three in the 4th

[IncarceratedBob]

These stats are fabricated. Kobe never led the team in 4th q scoring with shaq

[HylianNightmare]

Boykins

[DaOldLion]

108 views and 7 replys :confusedshrug: . This thread won't get the attention it deserves, but great stuff. Very impressive for guys like Shaq, Kobe & Dirk to be on this list during championship runs

[sundizz]

Great post. This truly shows how fg and efficiency can be used in so many different ways. From seeing this it truly seems like Kobe was some efficiency god with the level of scoring/efficiency from the floor, tre and line he put up in the 4th. I guess when it mattered he was locked in.

Actually surprising to be honest that he was THAT good in so many different years of playoffs for the 4th quarter.

[Black Mamba's B]

Good stuff from these players, I thought Melo would have been on the list. Kobe, Durant and Dirk's efficiency:rockon:

[plowking]

Wow... Lebron was second last year with 7.3ppg on 50/35/80.
The year before, second again, but struggled somewhat, with 7.4ppg on 44/35/78...
And even before that he was killing it.

Seems weird that this unclutch, and disappears in the 4th quarter thing ever kicked off.

[riseagainst]

but but but everyone says Lebron is not clutch.
:confusedshrug:

[Dresta]

Wow... Lebron was second last year with 7.3ppg on 50/35/80.
The year before, second again, but struggled somewhat, with 7.4ppg on 44/35/78...
And even before that he was killing it.

Seems weird that this unclutch, and disappears in the 4th quarter thing ever kicked off.
2011 finals

3pts on 33% shooting

That's why. Not that he hasn't rectified it.

[no pun intended]

2011
Dirk: 9.9 ppg on 51/53/94

jesus christ

[All Net]

Yet people say Lebron doesn't turn up in the 4th quarter..kind of sticks it to those.

[Pleurii]

1997
MJ: 9.6 ppg on 49/18/84

1998
MJ: 9.0 ppg on 45/14/81



Isn't this rather... poor ?

[K Xerxes]

Isn't this rather... poor ?

And yet the bulls won both titles, so..

[ArbitraryWater]

And yet the bulls won both titles, so..

Yo thats some kobe fans excuse making/arguing, you're better than that.

[Magic 32]

2003
Kobe: 9.6 ppg on 45/37/88


That was a weird postseason for Kobe.

In 5 of the 12 games, he looked like a basketball god.

The other games :facepalm

[K Xerxes]

Yo thats some kobe fans excuse making/arguing, you're better than that.

Considering he was 34 and 35 in those seasons and the Bulls were basically puffing for oxygen as a whole, the only thing anyone should be about those stats is impressed.

MJ was never an elite three point shooter. That's fine, no one can do everything to an elite level. But it was a facet of his game that couldn't really be exploited by the defense considering he had the deadly midrange and reliable post up moves. So does it matter when they won both seasons and he was once again the biggest reason they won?

[ArbitraryWater]

That's some efficient clutchness from Kobe in 2001&2002 :applause:

Would have thought 2012 is LeBron as well honestly...

Jordan should be from 1991-1993 and probably 1996 as well... heck ever since 1988.. well ya never know.

Dirk :bowdown: :bowdown: 10 Points on 51/53/94

mad silly

[ArbitraryWater]

:wtf: Dirk & Kobe ungodly from three in the 4th

ungodly?

[ArbitraryWater]

That was a weird postseason for Kobe.

In 5 of the 12 games, he looked like a basketball god.

The other games :facepalm


lol for once agreed. Funny year. Godly in the regular season, then in the playoffs takes 26 shots a game, has dozens of 30+ point games and lots of awful chuking nights.. resulting in shooting 43% :facepalm thats some russell-esque shit

[catquickspider]

lol for once agreed. Funny year. Godly in the regular season, then in the playoffs takes 26 shots a game, has dozens of 30+ point games and lots of awful chuking nights.. resulting in shooting 43% :facepalm thats some russell-esque shit

That is the year the media was hyping Bowen as a defensive stopper much like they are doing with Hibbert now. He got away with fouling Kobe a lot just like Hibbert gets away with fouling Lebron on drives.

[Magic 32]

lol for once agreed. Funny year. Godly in the regular season, then in the playoffs takes 26 shots a game, has dozens of 30+ point games and lots of awful chuking nights.. resulting in shooting 43% :facepalm thats some russell-esque shit

Still did this though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q5IwJsJK6U&t=4m42s

Poor KG.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/3e890a6aa8c54fc3bca31da6c7434925/tumblr_mt73sa16Qg1ryjfqqo1_400.gif

[kurple]

Yet people say Lebron doesn't turn up in the 4th quarter..kind of sticks it to those.
what is this? 2011?

[ArbitraryWater]

Still did this though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q5IwJsJK6U&t=4m42s

Poor KG.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/3e890a6aa8c54fc3bca31da6c7434925/tumblr_mt73sa16Qg1ryjfqqo1_400.gif

Expected the Poster Dunk hah... that 4th quarter was :bowdown: :bowdown:
Such beautiful shot making :cry:

[G-Funk]

2002 Kobe: 8.1 ppg on 49/50/79 :bowdown:

BASICALLY 50/50/80

[G-Funk]

Dirks WAS A Beast

[jlip]

Wow... Lebron was second last year with 7.3ppg on 50/35/80.
The year before, second again, but struggled somewhat, with 7.4ppg on 44/35/78...
And even before that he was killing it.

Seems weird that this unclutch, and disappears in the 4th quarter thing ever kicked off.


2011 finals

3pts on 33% shooting

That's why. Not that he hasn't rectified it.

I'm shocked at the civility in this thread. I hope that it can remain and not turn into another fruitless "stan war".

Regarding the posts above. Actually the Lebron "not clutch, goes missing in the 4th quarter" myths were being foolishly expressed while he was in Cleveland. It carried over during the first regular season in Miami because of the missed game winners. He in turn had some of the most dominant 4th quarters during the '11 ECSF and ECF we had seen in a while. The '11 Finals was really the exception and aberration. By every measurement, he's been one of the best 4th quarter performers in the league since probably 2006.

[Andrei89]

Dirk was such a god in 2011, you could tell it was his year and he was supposed to win it.

Not to mention Lebron with a horrible series. But, god what a beast Dirk was in the playoffs.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[ArbitraryWater]

Dirk was such a god in 2011, you could tell it was his year and he was supposed to win it.

Not to mention Lebron with a horrible series. But, god what a beast Dirk was in the playoffs.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

It was destiny :bowdown:

[gin17]

4th quarter scoring leader during the Playoffs since 1997 (1997 is the earliest these stats are available)
*Minimum 10 games

1997
MJ: 9.6 ppg on 49/18/84

1998
MJ: 9.0 ppg on 45/14/81

1999
Sprewell: 6.1 ppg on 42/43/84 (6 players ahead played under 10 games)

2000
Shaq: 9.0 ppg on 67/0/49 (Payton #1 - 5 games)

2001
Kobe: 8.0 ppg on 49/39/82

2002
Kobe: 8.1 ppg on 49/50/79

2003
Kobe: 9.6 ppg on 45/37/88

2004
KG: 6.7 ppg on 47/33/71 (Boykins #1 - 5 games, Marbury #2 - 4 games)

2005
Amare: 8.6 ppg on 61/0/77

2006
Lebron: 9.8 ppg on 44/31//71 (Arenas #1 - 5 games)

2007
Lebron: 8.6 ppg on 46/36/73 (Bosh #1 - 5 games)

2008
Kobe: 9.2 ppg on 47/45/82

2009
Lebron: 8.8 ppg on 46/19/76

2010
Lebron: 8.6 ppg on 53/45/67 (Wade #1 - 5 games)

2011
Dirk: 9.9 ppg on 51/53/94

2012
Durant: 8.3 ppg on 54/43/81

2013
N. Robinson: 7.5 ppg on 54/35/85

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerGeneral.html?GameSegment=&Period=4&PlayerPosition=&StarterBench=&PlayerExperience=&OpponentTeamID=0&VsConference=&VsDivision=&Outcome=&Location=&DateFrom=&DateTo=&SeasonSegment=&Month=0&LastNGames=0&PlusMinus=N&Rank=N&splits=Y&sortField=PTS&sortOrder=DES&SeasonType=Playoffs&filters=GP*G*3&PerMode=PerGame&pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25&Season=1996-97&columnOrder=PLAYER_NAME%2CGP%2CMIN%2CFG_PCT%2CFG3_ PCT%2CFT_PCT%2CPTS%2CPLUS_MINUS
good to see that dirk has the highest 4Q ppg since 1997. on godly %s too

[NauruDude]

4th quarter scoring leader during the Playoffs since 1997 (1997 is the earliest these stats are available)
*Minimum 10 games

1997
MJ: 9.6 ppg on 49/18/84

1998
MJ: 9.0 ppg on 45/14/81 - MJ niqqu this bad 3-point shoter?

2000
Shaq: 9.0 ppg on 67/0/49 (Payton #1 - 5 games) - that niqqu bad from 3

2002
Kobe: 8.1 ppg on 49/50/79

2003
Kobe: 9.6 ppg on 45/37/88 - GOAt that niqqu

2005
Amare: 8.6 ppg on 61/0/77 - dad niqqu bad from 3

2009
Lebron: 8.8 ppg on 46/19/76 - HAHAHAHA ROFLMAO dad niqqu bad

2011
Dirk: 9.9 ppg on 51/53/94- - SHIT that niqqu good :cheers:


http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerGeneral.html?GameSegment=&Period=4&PlayerPosition=&StarterBench=&PlayerExperience=&OpponentTeamID=0&VsConference=&VsDivision=&Outcome=&Location=&DateFrom=&DateTo=&SeasonSegment=&Month=0&LastNGames=0&PlusMinus=N&Rank=N&splits=Y&sortField=PTS&sortOrder=DES&SeasonType=Playoffs&filters=GP*G*3&PerMode=PerGame&pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25&Season=1996-97&columnOrder=PLAYER_NAME%2CGP%2CMIN%2CFG_PCT%2CFG3_ PCT%2CFT_PCT%2CPTS%2CPLUS_MINUS

Attention MJ overrated Dirk underrated Lebron overrated

[Magic 32]

Attention MJ overrated Dirk underrated Lebron overrated

Jordan was 34 and 35.

His 88-93 stats are out of this world.

[StrongLurk]

2011 Dirk :eek: Clutch God

[ArbitraryWater]

Wow... Lebron was second last year with 7.3ppg on 50/35/80.
The year before, second again, but struggled somewhat, with 7.4ppg on 44/35/78...
And even before that he was killing it.

Seems weird that this unclutch, and disappears in the 4th quarter thing ever kicked off.

That 7.4 on 44/35/78 is 2012? He shot 44% in 2012 4th Q's?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Jordan was 34 and 35.

His 88-93 stats are out of this world.
:applause:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Anyone want to add #2-3 to each year make it a top 3 or #2-5 to make it a top 5? Only include players that played at least 10 games because no one really cares about one series average tbh. Someone do it :D

[DMAVS41]

Dirk with the GOAT clutch playoff run...

[Magic 32]

Dirk with the GOAT clutch playoff run...

Lets look at MJ during the 91-93 run before we crown him.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Dirk with the GOAT clutch playoff run...
Since 1997 probably but we don't have the stats for Jerry West's, Bird's, or first 3peat MJ.

[Milbuck]

2011
Dirk: 9.9 ppg on 51/53/94

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Lebron23]

That is the year the media was hyping Bowen as a defensive stopper much like they are doing with Hibbert now. He got away with fouling Kobe a lot just like Hibbert gets away with fouling Lebron on drives.

True

[Akrazotile]

2010
Lebron: 8.6 ppg on 53/45/67

2011
Dirk: 9.9 ppg on 51/53/94

2012
Durant: 8.3 ppg on 54/43/81

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerGeneral.html?GameSegment=&Period=4&PlayerPosition=&StarterBench=&PlayerExperience=&OpponentTeamID=0&VsConference=&VsDivision=&Outcome=&Location=&DateFrom=&DateTo=&SeasonSegment=&Month=0&LastNGames=0&PlusMinus=N&Rank=N&splits=Y&sortField=PTS&sortOrder=DES&SeasonType=Playoffs&filters=GP*G*3&PerMode=PerGame&pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25&Season=1996-97&columnOrder=PLAYER_NAME%2CGP%2CMIN%2CFG_PCT%2CFG3_ PCT%2CFT_PCT%2CPTS%2CPLUS_MINUS



>>>>>> Kobe


:bowdown:



Dirk with top 3 overall playoff run all-time?

:bowdown:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Why did my Bullies let go of Nate GOATinson?

[DMAVS41]

jesus christ

67.4% TS

:applause: :applause:

[HOoopCityJones]

Dirk is nasty.

Of their Era it goes Kobe, Duncan, Dirk , then Nash.

[tpols]

So modern era its

Lebron and Kobe 4 clutch titles
And Dirk/KG/Shaq/Durant 1

Lebron/Kobe clutch kings:bowdown:

Props to Dirk for having the best in recorded history tho.

[Kargo]

>>>>>> Kobe


:bowdown:



Dirk with top 3 overall playoff run all-time?

:bowdown:

Let's look at it this way:

Portland:A favorite for the upset,1 All-NBA player in Aldridge(3-rd team)a team with Gerald Wallace,Andre Miller,Batum and the last capable performance by Brandon Roy.

Lakers:2-time defending champions,coached by Phil Jackson,2 All-NBA players in Kobe(1-st team) and Pau(2-nd team) a team with a healthy Bynum.Beat them by 36 in game 4,second worst loss in Lakers playoff history.

Thunder:Most talented young team in the league,2 All-NBA players in Durrant(1-st team) and Westbrook(2-nd)a team that had the best 6-th player in the league in James Harden,the same team went to the finals the next year.

Heat:Easily the most talented team in the league,2 All-NBA players in Lebron (1-st team) Wade(2-nd) + a perennial all star in Chris Bosh.This team will go on and win the next two titles.Beat them 3 games in a row,while this team didn't lose more than once by any other team.

That's 6 out of the top 9 (excluding Dirk from the top 10) All-NBA players that year.

The Mavs lost five games,the worst defeat was by 8 points.The other losses were by 2,2,5 and 6.

Dirk was not only the lone All NBA player,he was the only all star in his team.

So yeah,this Mavs run is easily in the Top 5 most impressive playoff runs ever considering who they beat with that kind of a roster.

This type of a run just doesn't happen in real life...maybe in a Hollywood movie where the perennial underachievers team up and beat every in-Prime teams the league has to offer and finally win the big thing.And yet it did.

[gin17]

Let's look at it this way:

Portland:A favorite for the upset,1 All-NBA player in Aldridge(3-rd team)a team with Gerald Wallace,Andre Miller,Batum and the last capable performance by Brandon Roy.

Lakers:2-time defending champions,coached by Phil Jackson,2 All-NBA players in Kobe(1-st team) and Pau(2-nd team) a team with a healthy Bynum.Beat them by 36 in game 4,second worst loss in Lakers playoff history.

Thunder:Most talented young team in the league,2 All-NBA players in Durrant(1-st team) and Westbrook(2-nd)a team that had the best 6-th player in the league in James Harden,the same team went to the finals the next year.

Heat:Easily the most talented team in the league,2 All-NBA players in Lebron (1-st team) Wade(2-nd) + a perennial all star in Chris Bosh.This team will go on and win the next two titles.Beat them 3 games in a row,while this team didn't lose more than once by any other team.

That's 6 out of the top 9 (excluding Dirk from the top 10) All-NBA players that year.

The Mavs lost five games,the worst defeat was by 8 points.The other losses were by 2,2,5 and 6.

Dirk was not only the lone All NBA player,he was the only all star in his team.

So yeah,this Mavs run is easily in the Top 5 most impressive playoff runs ever considering who they beat with that kind of a roster.

This type of a run just doesn't happen in real life...maybe in a Hollywood movie where the perennial underachievers team up and beat every in-Prime teams the league has to offer and finally win the big thing.And yet it did.
true. the only people that cannot appreciate what dirk did in 2011 are salty lebron stans. just look at the other thread about dirk

[Droid101]

Not top 5, no. You cannot rate teams by what they did the year before or the year after.

[Kargo]

Not top 5, no. You cannot rate teams by what they did the year before or the year after.

That's absolute nonsense.:facepalm

The Heat destroyed everyone in the East until they played the Mavs.They lost 3 games until the finals.Lost 4 against the Mavs.

That same Lakers team was a 2-time champion hyped to go for a three peat.Won their first round 4-2.They won the first round in 2010 by 4-2 as well.Everything was going according to plan until they faced the Mavs.They were heavily favored in that series.Don't try to re-write history.

The Thunder were just as good in 2011 as they were in 2012...both times they faced a better,more experienced team and lost 4-1.

[Magic 32]

That same Lakers team was a 2-time champion hyped to go for a three peat.Won their first round 4-2.They won the first round in 2010 by 4-2 as well.Everything was going according to plan until they faced the Mavs.They were heavily favored in that series.Don't try to re-write history.


http://vlsportysexycool.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Shannon-Brown-SSC.jpg

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/pau-gasol-reaction2.gif

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/706328/x2011-april-25-0-13-5.jpg.pagespeed.ic.viboodxfs_.jpg

[sportjames23]

Attention MJ overrated Dirk underrated Lebron overrated


Dumb ass post is dumb ass.

[pegasus]

2011 finals

3pts on 33% shooting

That's why. Not that he hasn't rectified it.
It started in 2011 RS. He missed like 8 winning or tying shots in consecutive loses. He either bricked the shot, got blocked, or turned the ball over. Then they decided to use Wade instead in those situations.

[longtime lurker]

Dirk :eek:

[goldcrow]

Let's look at it this way:

Portland:A favorite for the upset,1 All-NBA player in Aldridge(3-rd team)a team with Gerald Wallace,Andre Miller,Batum and the last capable performance by Brandon Roy.

Lakers:2-time defending champions,coached by Phil Jackson,2 All-NBA players in Kobe(1-st team) and Pau(2-nd team) a team with a healthy Bynum.Beat them by 36 in game 4,second worst loss in Lakers playoff history.

Thunder:Most talented young team in the league,2 All-NBA players in Durrant(1-st team) and Westbrook(2-nd)a team that had the best 6-th player in the league in James Harden,the same team went to the finals the next year.

Heat:Easily the most talented team in the league,2 All-NBA players in Lebron (1-st team) Wade(2-nd) + a perennial all star in Chris Bosh.This team will go on and win the next two titles.Beat them 3 games in a row,while this team didn't lose more than once by any other team.

That's 6 out of the top 9 (excluding Dirk from the top 10) All-NBA players that year.

The Mavs lost five games,the worst defeat was by 8 points.The other losses were by 2,2,5 and 6.

Dirk was not only the lone All NBA player,he was the only all star in his team.

So yeah,this Mavs run is easily in the Top 5 most impressive playoff runs ever considering who they beat with that kind of a roster.

This type of a run just doesn't happen in real life...maybe in a Hollywood movie where the perennial underachievers team up and beat every in-Prime teams the league has to offer and finally win the big thing.And yet it did.

Legendary playoff run, anyone who doesn't think so is delusional. Dirk da clutch gawd. :bowdown:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Everyone creaming their pants over Dirk's 2011 4th quarter performances in the playoffs. Impressive indeed. But MJ from '88 - '93, '96 will probably dwarf those numbers. Particularly '88 - '93. I shutter to think what those numbers would be. Anyone able to take the time to do the math? haha

[DMAVS41]

Everyone creaming their pants over Dirk's 2011 4th quarter performances in the playoffs. Impressive indeed. But MJ from '88 - '93, '96 will probably dwarf those numbers. Particularly '88 - '93. I shutter to think what those numbers would be. Anyone able to take the time to do the math? haha

Probably, but I don't think we have play by play data for those years.

I'd love to see Bird, Jordan, and Hakeem's 4th qtr numbers at their peaks...

Still though...the most points of at least the last 17 years on absurd efficiency that blows everyone else out of the water...67.4% TS

And the 4th qtr numbers alone don't even do it justice. In actual crunch time in the 11 playoffs...Dirk shot 76.8% TS and scored 47.9 points per 36 of crunch time

Just to compare to someone...look at Kobe in 08...who was great

Kobe was at 63% TS in crunch time and scored 39 points per 36 of crunch time

Durant was at 61% TS in crunch time and scored 30 points per 36 of crunch time

Lebron was at 60% TS in crunch time and scored 26 points per 36 of crunch time

I'll do more later...but the point is that the already there gap just in 4th qtr is hugely widened when factoring in crunch time play as well.

What Dirk did in the 4th qtrs and crunch time was easily the best of the era and probably as good as anyone in history not named Jordan or Bird...but even then we don't know...Dirk's might be as good or better

76.8% TS in crunch time for an entire playoff run! It's insane...

[DMAVS41]

I'm going to try and post the clutch time numbers for each player on the list that we have access to as well.

Points are per 36 of crunch time;

01 Kobe - 34 points on 63% TS

02 Kobe - 30 points on 55% TS

03 Kobe - 36 points on 55% TS

04 KG - 22 points on 61% TS

05 Amare - 22 points on 49% TS

06 Lebron - 44 points on 64% TS

07 Lebron - 35 points on 62% TS

08 Kobe - 39 points on 63% TS

09 Lebron - 47 points on 66% TS

10 Lebron - 44 points on 91% TS

11 Dirk - 48 points on 77% TS

12 Durant - 30 points on 61% TS

13 Lebron - 26 points on 60% TS


Quick thing about Lebron's 2010 crunch time play. He only played 13 minutes of crunch time. Which is a very small sample size. Dirk, for example, played 49 minutes of crunch time in his 2011 playoff run...and Lebron played 44 minutes of crunch time in his 06 run.

Regardless, Lebron's crunch time play is crazy good...easily the best overall of the era

[PHILA]

per 36 of crunch time
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322375

4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points


1990-92 Playoffs (Peak)

55 points on 71% TS - 99 Minutes


1985-1998 Playoffs (Full Playoff Career)

46 points on 63% TS - 408 Minutes

[DMAVS41]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322375

4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points


1990-92 Playoffs (Peak)

55 points on 71% TS - 99 Minutes


1985-1998 Playoffs (Full Playoff Career)

46 points on 63% TS - 408 Minutes

Should I change the above to per 48? Or are the numbers you just posted in the per 36 min format?

[PHILA]

No I posted per 36. In the linked thread it is per 48 & also includes the totals.

[DMAVS41]

No I posted per 36. In the linked thread it is per 48 & also includes the totals.

Cool...thanks.