View Full Version : is it possible Lebron might end up an "inbetweener" era player afterthought like Shaq
kennethgriffin
02-08-2014, 09:20 PM
lebron fans need to worry less about catching kobe.. they should start worrying about staying ahead of durant. ( some say hes already fell behind ) but as far as all time status goes. durant could swipe that spot by taking the player of the decade awards/majority opinion for the 2010's
kobe already has that 2000's era locked up.. does lebron wanna be known as a inbetweener like shaq?
people remember the best of the best based on era/decade... always have... inbetweeners never get as much credit or respect..
when people say 80s.. they think of magic and bird... when people think of 60's.. people think of russell and wilt..
90's.. jordan.... works both ways.. say 80's era.. 90's era.. people think of 1-2 names
nobody will ever say "hey remember the late 00's individual era combined with early 10's best winner era best player??????" lol
60's = russell/wilt
70's = kareem
80's = magic/bird
90's = jordan
00's = kobe
10's = durant?
:confusedshrug:
btw before the one duncan fan on ISH gets all moody
Sporting News NBA Athlete of the Decade (2000s)[94]
TNT NBA Player of the Decade (2000s)[95]
Sports Illustrated Top 20 Male Athlete of the Decade (2000s) #7 (the only NBA player in the top 10)[97]
Ranked #1 in Dime Magazine's 2012 list of the top 10 greatest players since the year 2000 (published in the September 2012 issue)[99]
5 NBA championships = most of 2000's
duncan = boring, to be even in the conversation as the player of an era. fans need to know who you are. #nofans #getlost
JohnFreeman
02-08-2014, 09:21 PM
Yes, a top 10 player is going to be forgotten.
moe94
02-08-2014, 09:21 PM
Are you actually retarded? LeBron has been the best player for a lot longer than Kobe has. Just stop already.
00s belongs to Shaq/Duncan, not Kobe.
Jameerthefear
02-08-2014, 09:22 PM
Lebron>>>Kobe Bryant
fpliii
02-08-2014, 09:24 PM
lol
kennethgriffin
02-08-2014, 09:24 PM
Are you actually retarded? LeBron has been the best player for a lot longer than Kobe has. Just stop already.
00s belongs to Shaq/Duncan, not Kobe.
in your opinion.. sure.. but any time you hear a person in or around the league/fan/coach/player talk they say kobe was the best during the mid to late 00's... lebron was maybe clear cut best in 2012... in 2010 kobe got done winning back2back titles/fmvps.. in 2011 rose won mvp and lebron just got done taking a backseat to wade in the finals..
lebron really didnt come into his own as clear cut best player.. best in the finals till 2012.
sorry
HOoopCityJones
02-08-2014, 09:25 PM
Are you actually retarded? LeBron has been the best player for a lot longer than Kobe has. Just stop already.
00s belongs to Shaq/Duncan, not Kobe.
Can't wait til you modify your opinion when the Laker fans come around.
moe94
02-08-2014, 09:26 PM
Can't wait til you modify your opinion when the Laker fans come around.
What does that even mean? You actually think dude is talking sense? You think LeBron, of all players, will be lost in history? Really? LeBron? :biggums:
Kenneth has no consistency because he'll crown Durant over regular season exploits while claiming Kobe is better than LeBron from 08-2012 because of playoffs or whatever. It's a joke.
Foster5k
02-08-2014, 09:27 PM
To think, a player with as much hype, so many haters world wide, so many lovers world wide, the stats, the mvps, the championships, etc, as Lebron would be forgotten or labeled an inbetweener or whatever is just ridiculous.
When people think of the NBA, many years from now, Lebron's name will still have to be mentioned. The guy has had too much impact on the league and world wide to simply be pushed aside.
We were all witnesses and are still witnessing whatever Lebron has left up his sleeve.
Angel Face
02-08-2014, 09:28 PM
Yes, After every good show, there should be a commercial break and Lebron fills that perfectly. A good show by Kobe, commercial break by Lebron and the show continues in Kevin Durant.
HOoopCityJones
02-08-2014, 09:28 PM
What does that even mean? You actually think dude is talking sense? You think LeBron, of all players, will be lost in history? Really? LeBron? :biggums:
Don't care about the agenda thread , but what you said is Bullshit.
No one but Lebron's stans were calling him the best in 09-10.
derb2k2
02-08-2014, 09:28 PM
lebron fans need to worry less about catching kobe.. they should start worrying about staying ahead of durant. ( some say hes already fell behind ) but as far as all time status goes. durant could swipe that spot by taking the player of the decade awards/majority opinion for the 2010's
kobe already has that 2000's era locked up.. does lebron wanna be known as a inbetweener like shaq?
people remember the best of the best based on era/decade... always have... inbetweeners never get as much credit or respect..
when people say 80s.. they think of magic and bird... when people think of 60's.. people think of russell and wilt..
90's.. jordan.... works both ways.. say 80's era.. 90's era.. people think of 1-2 names
nobody will ever say "hey remember the late 00's individual era combined with early 10's best winner era best player??????" lol
60's = russell/wilt
70's = kareem
80's = magic/bird
90's = jordan
00's = kobe
10's = durant?
:confusedshrug:
stopped reading there. :biggums:
Akrazotile
02-08-2014, 09:28 PM
Shaqs reign was shortened due to his own lack of work ethic/conditioning.
So Shaq's relatively brief greatness will end up sandwhiched perfectly between the longer legacies of Jordan and Lebron. A succession of once in a lifetime dominance.
Kobe will grouped in with Duncan, KG, Kidd as great players who were never really seen as GOAT candidates, altho certainly of that group Duncan is the closest and is a top 10 player. I have KG and Kidd above Kobe but I think its generally debatable.
Jameerthefear
02-08-2014, 09:29 PM
Kobe has never been the clearcut best player in the league
JohnFreeman
02-08-2014, 09:30 PM
Yes, After every good show, there should be a commercial break and Lebron fills that perfectly. A good show by Kobe, commercial break by Lebron and the show continues in Kevin Durant.
:wtf:
HOoopCityJones
02-08-2014, 09:30 PM
I have KG and Kidd above Kobe but I think its generally debatable.
:roll:
Trust me bro, it's not.
kennethgriffin
02-08-2014, 09:31 PM
moses was an inbetweener
pettit was an inbetweener
dr j was an inbetweener
hondo was an inbetweener
they never get much mention anywhere or respect due to this..
having your peak at the end of an era and dying off a few years during the start of a new era is always a sure way to not be as hyped/remembered as all decade players
shaq had a better showing in the 90's.. but had all his success in the early 00's
lebron might end up with this fate.. unless he can keep it going for another 6-7 years
moe94
02-08-2014, 09:31 PM
Don't care about the agenda thread , but what you said is Bullshit.
No one but Lebron's stans were calling him the best in 09-10.
LeBron's stats shit on him and he won MVPs, but yeah, you're talking sense. :rolleyes:
09 LeBron is absolutely better than any version of Kobe.
:wtf:
It's his silly joke he repeats because he thinks it's funny. He seriously said it a lot of times. :coleman:
Illuminati
02-08-2014, 09:33 PM
Stopped reading at catching Kobe. LeBron surpassed Kobe last year.
HOoopCityJones
02-08-2014, 09:33 PM
LeBron's stats shit on him and he won MVPs, but yeah, you're talking sense. :rolleyes:
09 LeBron is absolutely better than any version of Kobe.
Who won the big Game?
Akrazotile
02-08-2014, 09:33 PM
moses was an inbetweener
pettit was an inbetweener
dr j was an inbetweener
hondo was an inbetweener
they never get much mention anywhere or respect due to this..
having your peak at the end of an era and dying off a few years during the start of a new era is always a sure way to not be as hyped/remembered as all decade players
shaq had a better showing in the 90's.. but had all his success in the early 00's
lebron might end up with this fate.. unless he can keep it going for another 6-7 years
You forgot Hakeem. He was in between Jordans gambling suspension. :oldlol:
kennethgriffin
02-08-2014, 09:34 PM
Stopped reading at catching Kobe. LeBron surpassed Kobe last year.
duh kobe had a career ending injury
like i said.. focus on your own generation kiddo
moe94
02-08-2014, 09:34 PM
Who won the big Game?
Team accomplishments =/= individual ability
Learn to separate the two.
I have KG and Kidd above Kobe but I think its generally debatable.
They literally have zero argument over Kobe and Kobe is absolutely a top 10 player. That is no debatable. :biggums:
Kobe's resume is fantastic and takes a steaming pile of shit on KG and especially Kidd.
Illuminati
02-08-2014, 09:34 PM
in your opinion.. sure.. but any time you hear a person in or around the league/fan/coach/player talk they say kobe was the best during the mid to late 00's... lebron was maybe clear cut best in 2012... in 2010 kobe got done winning back2back titles/fmvps.. in 2011 rose won mvp and lebron just got done taking a backseat to wade in the finals..
lebron really didnt come into his own as clear cut best player.. best in the finals till 2012.
sorry
:roll:
LeBron has been a top 3 player in the league since 2006, and he's been the best since 2009. Stop it.
HOoopCityJones
02-08-2014, 09:35 PM
Team accomplishments =/= individual ability
Learn to separate the two.
Media generated award =/= actually being better.
Illuminati
02-08-2014, 09:35 PM
duh kobe had a career ending injury
like i said.. focus on your own generation kiddo
I was talking about all-time rankings, my bad.
Uncle Drew
02-08-2014, 09:36 PM
Timmy was the greatest player of the 00's.
Warfan
02-08-2014, 09:37 PM
Kobe has never been the clearcut best player in the league
id say 06-08 he was the best player
OP, lebrons already top 10 or 11 alltime at 29, he has pretty much been the best in the league since 09 and i still feel he is the best (of course durant has a good case). No ones gonna forget him ok :oldlol:
Deuce Bigalow
02-08-2014, 09:37 PM
Shaqs reign was shortened due to his own lack of work ethic/conditioning.
So Shaq's relatively brief greatness will end up sandwhiched perfectly between the longer legacies of Jordan and Lebron. A succession of once in a lifetime dominance.
Kobe will grouped in with Duncan, KG, Kidd as great players who were never really seen as GOAT candidates, altho certainly of that group Duncan is the closest and is a top 10 player. I have KG and Kidd above Kobe but I think its generally debatable.
http://img.discountpostersale.com/posters/PFSAAML22501/1/Kobe-Bryant---2010-NBA-Finals-Game-7---Championship-Trophy-5-Fingers-in-Studio27.jpg
Thou mad?
Warfan
02-08-2014, 09:37 PM
Timmy was the greatest player of the 00's.
Id say he has a great case too, certainly debatable though
Prometheus
02-08-2014, 09:37 PM
This thread reminds me of hamburger helper... mmmmmm... oh yeah and OP is a ph@ggot.
kennethgriffin
02-08-2014, 09:38 PM
I was talking about all-time rankings, my bad.
.. atleast your honest. that IS bad lmao
who honestly ranks lebron ahead of kobe all time. post a link to any coach/past former player etc..
i think only pippen was ever so bold. but hes probly trolling MJ.. and it wasnt a comparison with kobe
moe94
02-08-2014, 09:38 PM
Media generated award =/= actually being better.
Stats don't matter, MVPs don't matter!
What matters is the eye test. He's better because I said so!
kennethgriffin
02-08-2014, 09:40 PM
Stats don't matter, MVPs don't matter!
What matters is the eye test. He's better because I said so!
majority opinion rules all.. among fans/players/coaches/HOFers
kobe takes it for player of his generation and better than lebron
mikes the goat due to this.. its common sense.. democracy
moe94
02-08-2014, 09:43 PM
Slavery was once a great thing. Majority knows all. Stop me. The eye test said blacks need to be slaves. Don't question the almighty eye test. It's infallible.
Jameerthefear
02-08-2014, 09:44 PM
Moe ripping op to shreds.
HOoopCityJones
02-08-2014, 09:44 PM
Slavery was once a great thing. Majority knows all. Stop me. The eye test said blacks need to be slaves. Don't question the almighty eye test. It's infallible.
You goin alittle overboard bruh.
Prometheus
02-08-2014, 09:44 PM
.. atleast your honest. that IS bad lmao
who honestly ranks lebron ahead of kobe all time. post a link to any coach/past former player etc..
i think only pippen was ever so bold. but hes probly trolling MJ.. and it wasnt a comparison with kobe
You go first. I'll find legends/coaches or whatever to tell you LeBron > Kobe if you can find the same saying Kobe > LeBron. I'll eat some "Cheeseburger Macaroni" flavored Hamburger Helper while I wait... mmmm......
kennethgriffin
02-08-2014, 09:45 PM
Yes, After every good show, there should be a commercial break and Lebron fills that perfectly. A good show by Kobe, commercial break by Lebron and the show continues in Kevin Durant.
this guy gets it..
:applause:
nobody groups in pettit with the 60's era names
nobody groups in hondo or dr j in the discussion for face of the 70's or dr j for 80's
nobody groups moses with magic/bird
nobody groups shaq in with jordan for 90's.. nobody groups in shaq with kobe for 00's
nobody will group lebron in with kobe or durant.. lebron is generationless
#inbetweener #commercialbreak #slimreap'era
moe94
02-08-2014, 09:46 PM
You goin alittle overboard bruh.
Retard logic deserves retard logic. You're not a retard, relax.
kennethgriffin
02-08-2014, 09:47 PM
You go first. I'll find legends/coaches or whatever to tell you LeBron > Kobe if you can find the same saying Kobe > LeBron. I'll eat some "Cheeseburger Macaroni" flavored Hamburger Helper while I wait... mmmm......
all time? maybe you can find someone saying lebrons better than anyone including kobe right now or from the past couple seasons
noone with a real name is ever gonna say Lebron>kobe all time with lebron only having 2 rings from chasing/lockouts/bailout3's
lol common
Warfan
02-08-2014, 09:47 PM
Stats don't matter, MVPs don't matter!
What matters is the eye test. He's better because I said so!
:roll:
according to kobe stans, eye test = whos game is more aesthetically pleasing
Prometheus
02-08-2014, 09:49 PM
this guy gets it..
:applause:
nobody groups in pettit with the 60's era names
nobody groups in hondo or dr j in the discussion for face of the 70's or dr j for 80's
nobody groups moses with magic/bird
nobody groups shaq in with jordan for 90's.. nobody groups in shaq with kobe for 00's
nobody will group lebron in with kobe or durant.. lebron is generationless
#inbetweener #commercialbreak #slimreap'era
I'd say 95% of the posters on this forum don't even know what Bob Pettit looked like. Hondo, Dr. J, and Moses are obviously not on the same tier as Kareem, Bird, and Magic. Everyone groups Shaq in the '00's you moron. Everyone.
And nobody argues in those terms anyway. You're acting like Shaq is some forgotten legend... He is ahead of Kobe on most all-time lists. Your argument is seriously so asinine.
HOoopCityJones
02-08-2014, 09:49 PM
If I was a stan i'd say he was better than Jordan, Magic etc.
Never have never will.
kennethgriffin
02-08-2014, 09:53 PM
I'd say 95% of the posters on this forum don't even know what Bob Pettit looked like. Hondo, Dr. J, and Moses are obviously not on the same tier as Kareem, Bird, and Magic. Everyone groups Shaq in the '00's you moron. Everyone.
And nobody argues in those terms anyway. You're acting like Shaq is some forgotten legend... He is ahead of Kobe on most all-time lists. Your argument is seriously so asinine.
youve never heard of anyone in your life as a basketball fan talking in terms of era's ( best of the 90's, 80's, 60's etc... )
?
you missed the big 2000's tnt count down for player of the decade celebration?
you missed the magic johnson tim duncan 20 minute interview where he continuously drove and pitched the idea of tim catching kobe for top player of the decade/era by matching his 5 rings?
you're oblivious to this aspect of basketball history?
:lol
Can't wait til you modify your opinion when the Laker fans come around.
The guy's like a stream, he follows the path of least resistance
Prometheus
02-08-2014, 09:57 PM
youve never heard of anyone in your life as a basketball fan talking in terms of era's ( best of the 90's, 80's, 60's etc... )
?
you missed the big 2000's tnt count down for player of the decade celebration?
you missed the magic johnson tim duncan 20 minute interview where he continuously drove and pitched the idea of tim catching kobe for top player of the decade/era by matching his 5 rings?
you're oblivious to this aspect of basketball history?
:lol
In terms of a player's greatness, nobody cares. That's just a media tool used to hype shit up. Have you ever been in a serious debate about, say, Shaq vs. Kobe all-time, and told someone "Derp derp derp Kobe is better than Shaq because he represents the '00's but Shaq is an 'inbetweener'."? :biggums:
moe94
02-08-2014, 09:58 PM
The guy's like a stream, he follows the path of least resistance
What the hell are you even talking about? I've never at any point suggested Kobe was better than LeBron since 09. Not once. You must get confused with my sarcastic posts and think I'm genuine because I don't use emoticons all the time. :facepalm
Trollsmasher
02-08-2014, 10:02 PM
wow
such retard
much stupid
so kenneth
What the hell are you even talking about? I've never at any point suggested Kobe was better than LeBron since 09. Not once. You must get confused with my sarcastic posts and think I'm genuine because I don't use emoticons all the time. :facepalm
nah you're good but predictable... You come into a thread, read the discussion and just agree with whoever you think is winning the debate.. never offer up anything original or call out those who are clearly trolling but that's all good, you're new don't want to piss people off, I get it
moe94
02-08-2014, 10:07 PM
nah you're good but predictable... You come into a thread, read the discussion and just agree with whoever you think is winning the debate.. never offer up anything original or call out those who are clearly trolling but that's all good, you're new don't want to piss people off, I get it
Right, except I was the second post and called out the OP. Meanwhile others say all I do is shit on posters, but yes, I'm totally playing nice guy. Everything you said is the exact opposite of what happened.
kennethgriffin
02-08-2014, 10:10 PM
In terms of a player's greatness, nobody cares. That's just a media tool used to hype shit up. Have you ever been in a serious debate about, say, Shaq vs. Kobe all-time, and told someone "Derp derp derp Kobe is better than Shaq because he represents the '00's but Shaq is an 'inbetweener'."? :biggums:
does this opinion have anything to do with your agenda?
cause i beg to differ... it does weigh hevily in discussions.. weight of being known as best generation player goes pretty far
who are the guys who are mentiond in all time discussions?... russell,kareem,magic,jordan,kobe
their fans argue day and night about whos era is better and who is goat... why? because theyre the candidates
why? cause they represent their eras
Prometheus
02-08-2014, 10:16 PM
does this opinion have anything to do with your agenda?
cause i beg to differ... it does weigh hevily in discussions.. weight of being known as best generation player goes pretty far
who are the guys who are mentiond in all time discussions?... russell,kareem,magic,jordan,kobe
their fans argue day and night about whos era is better and who is goat... why? because theyre the candidates
why? cause they represent their eras
The only people that put Kobe in the same class as Russell, Kareem, Magic, and Jordan live in Los Angeles and have room temperature IQs. Just... just stop. You're wrong.
moe94
02-08-2014, 10:18 PM
their fans argue day and night about whos era is better and who is goat... why? because theyre the candidates
Kobe literally has zero argument for GOAT status. :biggums:
fpliii
02-08-2014, 10:20 PM
You guys definitely underrate Kobe. griff, that includes you, too.
moe94
02-08-2014, 10:23 PM
You guys definitely underrate Kobe. griff, that includes you, too.
Are you saying he's a troll who secretly loathes Kobe?
fpliii
02-08-2014, 10:24 PM
Are you saying he's a troll who secretly loathes Kobe?
No, he's just tended to undersell him as of late. For some reason, griff's been a glass half empty guy with regards to Kobe recently. This thread is an exception, as he's been very pessimistic since the injury.
Prometheus
02-08-2014, 10:26 PM
You guys definitely underrate Kobe. griff, that includes you, too.
How can I underrate Kobe when I have him as a top 15 player of all time?
fpliii
02-08-2014, 10:28 PM
How can I underrate Kobe when I have him as a top 15 player of all time?
Post your thoughts in these threads:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324709
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324609
Prometheus
02-08-2014, 10:46 PM
Post your thoughts in these threads:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324709
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324609
:lol No thanks.
I just want to remind you kenny, just because you pray and wish and keep making threads that doesnt mean its going to become true
TheMilkyBarKid
02-08-2014, 10:59 PM
Hey kenny, kobe can havr his player of the decade award. It doesnt change the fact duncan, shaq and lebron will go down as the better players all time. Enjoy **********.
coin24
02-08-2014, 11:05 PM
Explain why bran is better when colluded rings don't count?
Beta loser ran off and joined a super team that can win without him, he even still found a way to choke and screw it up in 2011:lol
2007 pathetic
2009 choke against magic
2010 lequit and shit on his city
2011 biggest choke of all time
2012 refs
2013 ledisappearing act and ray Allen miracle..
2014 coasting on a super stacked team that beats wc top teams without him..
Top 10 all time?:roll: :roll: :roll:
MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 11:07 PM
:facepalm
secund2nun
02-08-2014, 11:10 PM
Lebron will never be an afterthought. Kobe will be though. They will be like "Shaq and the guy who rode his coattails...what was his name again?"
Prometheus
02-08-2014, 11:10 PM
Explain why bran is better when colluded rings don't count?
Beta loser ran off and joined a super team that can win without him, he even still found a way to choke and screw it up in 2011:lol
2007 pathetic
2009 choke against magic
2010 lequit and shit on his city
2011 biggest choke of all time
2012 refs
2013 ledisappearing act and ray Allen miracle..
2014 coasting on a super stacked team that beats wc top teams without him..
Top 10 all time?:roll: :roll: :roll:
:blah :blah :blah
MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 11:11 PM
Lebron will never be an afterthought. Kobe will be though. They will be like "Shaq and the guy who rode his coattails...what was his name again?"
http://guyism.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/applause-gif.gif
Illuminati
02-08-2014, 11:18 PM
Explain why bran is better when colluded rings don't count?
Beta loser ran off and joined a super team that can win without him, he even still found a way to choke and screw it up in 2011:lol
2007 pathetic
2009 choke against magic
2010 lequit and shit on his city
2011 biggest choke of all time
2012 refs
2013 ledisappearing act and ray Allen miracle..
2014 coasting on a super stacked team that beats wc top teams without him..
Top 10 all time?:roll: :roll: :roll:
2000 15ppg average, team STILL wins the championship, carried.
2003 lose because of chucking, Shaq averaging 27 on 55% and 15rpg, Kobe 32 on 43% :facepalm
2004 again, lose to the pistons because of chucking, Shaq averaged 27ppg on 63% and 11rpg, Kobe 22ppg on 38% (113 points on 113 shots:roll:)
2005 missed the playoffs in his prime
2006 choked a series away after being up 3-1
2008 get blown out on the elimination game, the biggest blow out in nba finals history
2009 bailed out by Fisher
2010 bailed out by Artest, 6-24 in Game 7
2011 swept by Mavs
2012 choked vs okc
2013 most stacked team in recent memory, almost missed the playoffs.
Top 10 all time?:oldlol:
MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 11:19 PM
2000 15ppg average, team STILL wins the championship, carried.
2003 lose because of chucking, Shaq averaging 27 on 55% and 15rpg, Kobe 32 on 43% :facepalm
2004 again, lose to the pistons because of chucking, Shaq averaged 27ppg on 63% and 11rpg, Kobe 22ppg on 38% (113 points on 113 shots:roll:)
2005 missed the playoffs in his prime
2006 choked a series away after being up 3-1
2008 get blown out on the elimination game, the biggest blow out in nba finals history
2009 bailed out by Fisher
2010 bailed out by Artest, 6-24 in Game 7
2011 swept by Mavs
2012 choked vs okc
2013 most stacked team in recent memory, almost missed the playoffs.
Top 10 all time?:oldlol:
At best top 15. And that is being generous already.
fpliii
02-08-2014, 11:21 PM
:lol No thanks.
Your call homie. :cheers:
Prometheus
02-08-2014, 11:23 PM
At best top 15. And that is being generous already.
Oh come on dude don't exaggerate. I'm a big Kobe critic but please try to name 15 players better than him.
Prometheus
02-08-2014, 11:23 PM
Your call homie. :cheers:
lol sorry I just felt like being a smartass. i'll check them out later, right now I'm watchin icp kill it on their weird little tv show. those guys can't rap but they are funny as shit.
fpliii
02-08-2014, 11:24 PM
lol sorry I just felt like being a smartass. i'll check them out later, right now I'm watchin icp kill it on their weird little tv show. those guys can't rap but they are funny as shit.
Agreed. I haven't watched their show yet, but from my understanding it's hilarious.
ArbitraryWater
02-08-2014, 11:26 PM
Look, this dude is 100% retard, he isnt banned yet.. something is wrong
MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 11:27 PM
Oh come on dude don't exaggerate. I'm a big Kobe critic but please try to name 15 players better than him.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Magic Johnson
4. Larry Bird
5. Tim Duncan
6. Lebron James
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
11. Bob Cousy
12. John Havlicek
13. David Robinson
14. Scottie Pippen
15. Kevin Mchale/Kobe Bryant
ArbitraryWater
02-08-2014, 11:31 PM
Explain why bran is better when colluded rings don't count?
Beta loser ran off and joined a super team that can win without him, he even still found a way to choke and screw it up in 2011:lol
2007 pathetic
2009 choke against magic
2010 lequit and shit on his city
2011 biggest choke of all time
2012 refs
2013 ledisappearing act and ray Allen miracle..
2014 coasting on a super stacked team that beats wc top teams without him..
Top 10 all time?:roll: :roll: :roll:
Could we please have this DUMBASS banned? Wtf how is this allowed :biggums:
AintNoSunshine
02-08-2014, 11:33 PM
more like your boyfriend kobe is the inbetweener. 00's clearly belongs to Shaq/Duncan, Kobe was the clear beta/sidekick/second fiddle
Kobe wasted his prime struggling to even make playoffs/first round exits
Then soon came Lebron, who will reign 10's with Durant most likely.
Nobody even like Kobe besides stans from LA. Everyone says he's an overrated chucker.
ArbitraryWater
02-08-2014, 11:34 PM
1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Magic Johnson
4. Larry Bird
5. Tim Ducan
6. Lebron James
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
11. Bob Cousy
12. John Havlicek
13. David Robinson
14. Scottie Pippen
15. Kevin Mchale/Kobe Bryant
If thats your list, it aint very good bro :lol
MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 11:37 PM
If thats your list, it aint very good bro :lol
Explain to me how my list isn't the most accurate GOAT ranking out there.
Prometheus
02-08-2014, 11:39 PM
1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Magic Johnson
4. Larry Bird
5. Tim Duncan
6. Lebron James
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
11. Bob Cousy
12. John Havlicek
13. David Robinson
14. Scottie Pippen
15. Kevin Mchale/Kobe Bryant
I got up to Bob Cousy and then I facepalmed so hard my face shot out the back of my head.
MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 11:43 PM
I got up to Bob Cousy and then I facepalmed so hard my face shot out the back of my head.
Why?:confusedshrug:
Yankstar
02-08-2014, 11:45 PM
Why?:confusedshrug:
Because you got Pippen at 14 :facepalm
MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 11:47 PM
Because you got Pippen at 14 :facepalm
Pippen, Robinson and Kobe are interchangeable. All 3 share the same fortunate fate of being a sidekick for their rings playing with a dominant alpha (MJ/Duncan/Shaq).
Audio One
02-08-2014, 11:48 PM
1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Magic Johnson
4. Larry Bird
5. Tim Duncan
6. Lebron James
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
11. Bob Cousy
12. John Havlicek
13. David Robinson
14. Scottie Pippen
15. Kevin Mchale/Kobe Bryant
Even though this is a troll list mostly, this particular mention is actually very debatable
Yankstar
02-08-2014, 11:49 PM
this guy gets it..
:applause:
nobody groups in pettit with the 60's era names
nobody groups in hondo or dr j in the discussion for face of the 70's or dr j for 80's
nobody groups moses with magic/bird
nobody groups shaq in with jordan for 90's.. nobody groups in shaq with kobe for 00's
nobody will group lebron in with kobe or durant.. lebron is generationless
#inbetweener #commercialbreak #slimreap'era
:applause:
New favourite poster on ISH. Keep these Lebron stans honest.
He is the Justin Bieber of basketball. Popular overhyped, stat padding immature player who will be lost to history.
But he MVPs... so did nash and who mentions him in the discussions for top of the 00's?
Mr. Jabbar
02-08-2014, 11:58 PM
"00's belong to Duncan/Shaq" do you imbeciles even believe what you say :facepalm :facepalm
00's = kobe let that fact burn your soul
freshperry
02-08-2014, 11:59 PM
in your opinion.. sure.. but any time you hear a person in or around the league/fan/coach/player talk they say kobe was the best during the mid to late 00's... lebron was maybe clear cut best in 2012... in 2010 kobe got done winning back2back titles/fmvps.. in 2011 rose won mvp and lebron just got done taking a backseat to wade in the finals..
lebron really didnt come into his own as clear cut best player.. best in the finals till 2012.
sorry
why are you even bringing up rose's MVP? Its not like lebron wasn't regarded as the best player that year. your beloved Kobe only has 1 MVP and just like you said he was the undisputed best player for a while. Also, "kobe got done winning back2back titles/fmvps? Uh excuse me? Didn't Lebron do that + MVP? I don't understand your arguments....
Akrazotile
02-09-2014, 12:10 AM
How can I underrate Kobe when I have him as a top 15 player of all time?
That's true. If you have him in your top 15 you are grossly overrating him.
Prometheus
02-09-2014, 12:17 AM
That's true. If you have him in your top 15 you are grossly overrating him.
Please name all the players better than Kobe. I got a good laugh out of the last guy to do that.
pegasus
02-09-2014, 12:55 AM
:applause: :applause: :applause:
Explain why bran is better when colluded rings don't count?
Beta loser ran off and joined a super team that can win without him, he even still found a way to choke and screw it up in 2011:lol
2007 pathetic
2009 choke against magic
2010 lequit and shit on his city
2011 biggest choke of all time
2012 refs
2013 ledisappearing act and ray Allen miracle..
2014 coasting on a super stacked team that beats wc top teams without him..
Top 10 all time?:roll: :roll: :roll:
LeGOAT
02-09-2014, 01:01 AM
Kobe has Litterally never been the clear cut best in the league.
DMAVS41
02-09-2014, 01:04 AM
lebron fans need to worry less about catching kobe.. they should start worrying about staying ahead of durant. ( some say hes already fell behind ) but as far as all time status goes. durant could swipe that spot by taking the player of the decade awards/majority opinion for the 2010's
kobe already has that 2000's era locked up.. does lebron wanna be known as a inbetweener like shaq?
people remember the best of the best based on era/decade... always have... inbetweeners never get as much credit or respect..
when people say 80s.. they think of magic and bird... when people think of 60's.. people think of russell and wilt..
90's.. jordan.... works both ways.. say 80's era.. 90's era.. people think of 1-2 names
nobody will ever say "hey remember the late 00's individual era combined with early 10's best winner era best player??????" lol
60's = russell/wilt
70's = kareem
80's = magic/bird
90's = jordan
00's = kobe
10's = durant?
:confusedshrug:
it doesn't work like that.
duncan/shaq definitely had an era from 99 through 07
you could call 08-10 the kobe era, but 3 years is really short to be considered an era
honestly it will most likely just be known as 09 to whenever as the Lebron era...durant can hop on that if he wins this year and they battle it out over the next 3 or 4 years...that would give them like 09 through 18 in which one of them was either the best player or playing in the finals.
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