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Keno
02-12-2014, 04:34 PM
For comparison sake, let's look at playoff runs in the past from stacked teams.

93-94 Hakeem's Rockets (won championship).
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2w7ixhe.jpg

Hakeem: 28.9ppg
Maxwell: 13.8ppg
Horry: 11.7ppg


00-01 Iverson's Sixers (lost to Lakers).
http://oi42.tinypic.com/2sb1qpv.jpg
Iverson: 32.9ppg
McKie: 14.6ppg
Mutombo: 13.9ppg


And finally, 12-13 LeBron's Heat (won the championship).
http://oi39.tinypic.com/b8oe90.jpg
LeBron: 26.2ppg
Wade: 14.1ppg
Bosh: 12.3ppg

Clearly, as you can see, this team is truly stacked.

navy
02-12-2014, 04:36 PM
Wade wasnt healthy last postsason and Bosh was never a superstar. Honestly though, when Wade is playing good that team is(was) definitely stacked.

Black and White
02-12-2014, 04:37 PM
Ray Allens 3 is worth 50ppg

Solefade
02-12-2014, 04:38 PM
bbbut the names on paper tho

Twiens
02-12-2014, 04:38 PM
So you're saying you'd take Mutombo/Mckee/Snow or Horry/Maxwell/Thorpe Over Wade/Bosh/Allen? Just stop, you're embarasing yourself

Solefade
02-12-2014, 04:40 PM
Wade wasnt healthy last postsason and Bosh was never a superstar. Honestly though, when Wade is playing good that team is(was) definitely stacked.


yep, if wade was healthy they'd be sweeping almost every series...but this has never been the case

Keno
02-12-2014, 04:40 PM
5 players with 10+ ppg for Hakeem. Almost 6 with Cassell. :oldlol:

Warfan
02-12-2014, 04:43 PM
Why don't the heat's numbers include the finals?

Wade averaged 16/5/5
Bosh averaged 12/8

HoopsFanNumero1
02-12-2014, 04:45 PM
:lol at Iverson with 30 FGAs/game

kennethgriffin
02-12-2014, 04:48 PM
92 dream team

Barkley - 16ppg
malone - 14ppg
mullin - 14ppg
drexler - 13ppg
jordan - 12ppg
ewing - 11ppg
robinson - 11ppg
bird - 9ppg
magic - 9ppg
pippen - 8ppg
laettner - 7ppg
stockton - 5ppg

this team wasnt stacked either... only barkley averaged over 15ppg

outbreak
02-12-2014, 04:48 PM
post the stats of wade, allen, beasley and bosh the year before they joined lebron

Sarcastic
02-12-2014, 04:49 PM
Show 2011 stats

cos88
02-12-2014, 04:50 PM
http://oi42.tinypic.com/2sb1qpv.jpg




i miss number 8's son :cry: such a great human

Keno
02-12-2014, 04:50 PM
92 dream team

Barkley - 16ppg
malone - 14ppg
mullin - 14ppg
drexler - 13ppg
jordan - 12ppg
ewing - 11ppg
robinson - 11ppg
bird - 9ppg
magic - 9ppg
pippen - 8ppg
laettner - 7ppg
stockton - 5ppg

this team wasnt stacked either... only barkley averaged over 15ppg

7 people averaged 10+ ppg.

Mr Exlax
02-12-2014, 04:51 PM
The Heat are stacked on paper. The players don't compliment each other well enough to fully utilize their stackedness. They have so many holes that I can't consider them an alltime great team. If Oden starts at center and Bosh goes to his natural position at PF then I'd consider them stacked.

moe94
02-12-2014, 04:51 PM
LeBron arguably has the greatest supporting cast of all time, in terms of role players and superstars in disguise.

ArbitraryWater
02-12-2014, 04:53 PM
Iverson so god damn overrated. 30 FGA and 39% shooting... pff joke

Keno
02-12-2014, 04:53 PM
Show 2011 stats

The only series LeBron just so happened to play bad in, Miami lost. But but but I thought the team was stacked they could carry him. :confusedshrug:

Magic 32
02-12-2014, 04:53 PM
Could Mckie do this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwfLxVpKtTo

There is only one ball per game.

http://s27.postimg.org/xlj2rqehv/Nyt_billede.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKRAqQ6SK70

moe94
02-12-2014, 04:53 PM
Iverson so god damn overrated. 30 FGA and 39% shooting... pff joke

He should have passed the ball to all those capable scorers.

ArbitraryWater
02-12-2014, 04:54 PM
But wait! Its not about what they actually produced, its what they COULD HAVE produced... rip dumbass :facepalm

outbreak
02-12-2014, 04:54 PM
post their stats the year before the all joined up

J Shuttlesworth
02-12-2014, 04:54 PM
LeBron arguably has the greatest supporting cast of all time, in terms of role players and superstars in disguise.
No way. Jordan, Kobe, Bird all had better supporting casts.

J Shuttlesworth
02-12-2014, 04:55 PM
post their stats the year before the all joined up
That's irrelevant. We could say the same thing about Kobe/Dwight Lakers

ArbitraryWater
02-12-2014, 04:57 PM
He should have passed the ball to all those capable scorers.

Well, okay, it excuses the 30 FGA somewhat... but not the 39% shooting. No way. There are more ways to play efficient team ball, by getting your mates open shots, as PG...

outbreak
02-12-2014, 04:59 PM
That's irrelevant. We could say the same thing about Kobe/Dwight Lakers

hows it irrelevant? The kobe lakers are different in that Dwight was recovering from a back injury and it was known he didn't want to be in L.A. Plus Nash is old and was injured aswell and this thread isn't even about them.

The point is that stats decrease with less possessions but looking at their stats from when they were go to guys can show the talent they have when needed.

Black and White
02-12-2014, 05:00 PM
Well, okay, it excuses the 30 FGA somewhat... but not the 39% shooting. No way. There are more ways to play efficient team ball, by getting your mates open shots, as PG...

Getting who open shots? Are you serious?

G-Funk
02-12-2014, 05:02 PM
92 dream team

Barkley - 16ppg
malone - 14ppg
mullin - 14ppg
drexler - 13ppg
jordan - 12ppg
ewing - 11ppg
robinson - 11ppg
bird - 9ppg
magic - 9ppg
pippen - 8ppg
laettner - 7ppg
stockton - 5ppg

this team wasnt stacked either... only barkley averaged over 15ppg

:oldlol:

G-Funk
02-12-2014, 05:04 PM
If Heat break up, Bosh will go back to putting up 20/10 andWade will go back to 24/6/5.

ArbitraryWater
02-12-2014, 05:06 PM
Getting who open shots? Are you serious?

They're NBA PLAYERS FFS. They'd ALL knock down OPEN SHOTS... thats what LEBRON DID IN CLEVELAND. BS Offensive Help yet he averaged 9 APG in 2010 and found his teammates SHOTS. SMH at you acting they couldnt make easy shots... theyre nba players ffs

oarabbus
02-12-2014, 05:06 PM
So you're saying you'd take Mutombo/Mckee/Snow or Horry/Maxwell/Thorpe Over Wade/Bosh/Allen? Just stop, you're embarasing yourself


92 dream team

Barkley - 16ppg
malone - 14ppg
mullin - 14ppg
drexler - 13ppg
jordan - 12ppg
ewing - 11ppg robinson - 11ppg
bird - 9ppg
magic - 9ppg
pippen - 8ppg
laettner - 7ppg
stockton - 5ppg

this team wasnt stacked either... only barkley averaged over 15ppg

:roll: :roll:

Stop it you guys, don't ether him that badly.

OP Just ****ed himself in the ass

ImKobe
02-12-2014, 05:07 PM
Hakeem's 2nd option was shooting 37,6% and his 3rd option was shooting 43%, that stackedness.

Lebron stans are worst in the world, they talk about efficiency when it comes to Kobe, but they totally ignore fg% here. Look at AI's and Hakeem's supporting casts, if you only look at ppg you're really ****ing stupid.

moe94
02-12-2014, 05:08 PM
No way. Jordan, Kobe, Bird all had better supporting casts.

Heat > any of the Laker/Pau teams

Outside Shaq, Heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3peat Lakers

Solefade
02-12-2014, 05:08 PM
If Heat break up, Bosh will go back to putting up 20/10 andWade will go back to 24/6/5.


and back to being first round exits? lol

Trollsmasher
02-12-2014, 05:11 PM
Hakeem's 2nd option was shooting 37,6% and his 3rd option was shooting 43%, that stackedness.

Lebron stans are worst in the world, they talk about efficiency when it comes to Kobe, but they totally ignore fg% here. Look at AI's and Hakeem's supporting casts, if you only look at ppg you're really ****ing stupid.
47% & 58% TS for Hakeem vs 50% & 52% TS for LeBron

Black and White
02-12-2014, 05:12 PM
They're NBA PLAYERS FFS. They'd ALL knock down OPEN SHOTS... thats what LEBRON DID IN CLEVELAND. BS Offensive Help yet he averaged 9 APG in 2010 and found his teammates SHOTS. SMH at you acting they couldnt make easy shots... theyre nba players ffs

I understand what you are saying, but Iverson was a ball-dominant scorer, doesn't mean he is overrated though, he was an aboslute beast, he did the best he could with his supporting cast.

IncarceratedBob
02-12-2014, 05:12 PM
In 2011, if LeBron was simply taken off the team then the Heat win in 5

G-Funk
02-12-2014, 05:14 PM
This just shows Lebron does not make his teammates better.

Black and White
02-12-2014, 05:16 PM
I though it was common knowlege that when you pair star players together their stats will more than likely go down, especially when you have 3 of them who were all 1st options, there just isn't enoough possesions to share to maintain that level of production.

G-Funk
02-12-2014, 05:33 PM
For comparison sake, let's look at playoff runs in the past from stacked teams.


And finally, 12-13 LeBron's Heat (won the championship).
http://oi39.tinypic.com/b8oe90.jpg
LeBron: 26.2ppg
Wade: 14.1ppg
Bosh: 12.3ppg

Clearly, as you can see, this team is truly stacked.

So what business did he have chasing rings with other top notch NBA players?



09-10
http://i58.tinypic.com/25k2045.png
LeBron 29.1
Antawn 15.3
Williams 14.4

08-09
http://i57.tinypic.com/5fnfyu.png
LeBron 35.3
Williams 16.3
West 13.8

07-08
http://i58.tinypic.com/2nsumvn.png
LeBron 28.3
Ilgauskas 13.1
West 10.8


06-07
http://i57.tinypic.com/s1q5vq.png
LeBron 25.1
Ilgauskas 12.6
Gooden 11.4

Magic 32
02-12-2014, 05:37 PM
07-08
http://i58.tinypic.com/2nsumvn.png


Very good team. The best he had in Cleveland. Elite defense and shooting.

Too bad he muffed it up:

http://s28.postimg.org/paft3onal/Nyt_billede.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdeqTcdauyU&t=3m43s

HurricaneKid
02-12-2014, 05:38 PM
LeBron arguably has the greatest supporting cast of all time, in terms of role players and superstars in disguise.

In 2011 when LeBron was off the floor the Heat were outscored by their opponents.

In 2012 when LeBron was off the floor the Heat were outscored by their opponents.

In 2013 when LeBron was off the floor the Heat were outscored by their opponents.

Name recognition does NOT equal stacked.

It should be noted that OKC has been at least 4 points / 100 possessions better than the opposition with KD on the bench in EACH of the last 3 seasons. THAT is stacked.

Lebron23
02-12-2014, 05:38 PM
Wade was hurt in the playoffs, and a High post scoring PF Like Bosh was outplayed by legit centers like Duncan and Hibbert.

I think a Miami Heat with a healthy Wade would have beaten the Pacers and spur in 5 or 6 games. Gonna gave some credit to the Pacers and Spurs for exploiting the Heat's weakness in the playoffs.

JT123
02-12-2014, 05:43 PM
If Heat break up, Bosh will go back to putting up 20/10 andWade will go back to 24/6/5.
What makes you think Bosh's rebounding would increase on another team? :wtf:
If Wade did start averaging those numbers it would probably be on 42 percent shooting. Wade only puts up good efficiency because he plays with Lebron, which allows him the luxury of taking every 3rd game off. If Bron wasn't on the Heat Wade would never get away with sitting out so many games. Bron has probably extended Wade's career by at least 2 years.

JT123
02-12-2014, 05:44 PM
In 2011 when LeBron was off the floor the Heat were outscored by their opponents.

In 2012 when LeBron was off the floor the Heat were outscored by their opponents.

In 2013 when LeBron was off the floor the Heat were outscored by their opponents.

Name recognition does NOT equal stacked.

It should be noted that OKC has been at least 4 points / 100 possessions better than the opposition with KD on the bench in EACH of the last 3 seasons. THAT is stacked.
:applause:

Blue&Orange
02-12-2014, 05:57 PM
92 dream team

Barkley - 16ppg
malone - 14ppg
mullin - 14ppg
drexler - 13ppg
jordan - 12ppg
ewing - 11ppg
robinson - 11ppg
bird - 9ppg
magic - 9ppg
pippen - 8ppg
laettner - 7ppg
stockton - 5ppg

this team wasnt stacked either... only barkley averaged over 15ppg
Look at Bird Magic Pippen And Stockton numbers, what a bunch of scrubs.


Comparing Horry and MAxwell to Wade and Bosh :lol :roll:


Lebrontards :facepalm

G-Funk
02-12-2014, 05:59 PM
Look at Bird Magic Pippen And Stockton numbers, what a bunch of scrubs.


Comparing Horry and MAxwell to Wade and Bosh :lol :roll:


Lebrontards :facepalm
:oldlol:

Blue&Orange
02-12-2014, 06:01 PM
In 2011 when LeBron was off the floor the Heat were outscored by their opponents.

In 2012 when LeBron was off the floor the Heat were outscored by their opponents.

In 2013 when LeBron was off the floor the Heat were outscored by their opponents.

Name recognition does NOT equal stacked.

It should be noted that OKC has been at least 4 points / 100 possessions better than the opposition with KD on the bench in EACH of the last 3 seasons. THAT is stacked.
Heat gutted themselfs bench wise so that they could be the most stacked team in NBA history and win 8 championships?

What a shocking surprise the bench sucks. How many of those times was Bosh or Wade sitting with Lebron on the bench?

Shocking information.

kamil
02-12-2014, 06:02 PM
92 dream team

Barkley - 16ppg
malone - 14ppg
mullin - 14ppg
drexler - 13ppg
jordan - 12ppg
ewing - 11ppg
robinson - 11ppg
bird - 9ppg
magic - 9ppg
pippen - 8ppg
laettner - 7ppg
stockton - 5ppg

this team wasnt stacked either... only barkley averaged over 15ppg

That's the greatest basketball team assembled ever... All hall of famers except for the college standout. No way in hell would the 2008 'Redeem Team' beat them even if Kobe says they could.

Big#50
02-12-2014, 06:03 PM
I think OKC has a better team. Heat have a great team as well.

JT123
02-12-2014, 06:04 PM
Look at Bird Magic Pippen And Stockton numbers, what a bunch of scrubs.


Comparing Horry and MAxwell to Wade and Bosh :lol :roll:


Lebrontards :facepalm
Well if Wade and Bosh put up the same numbers as those players? :confusedshrug:
In the NBA you only get points for the stats you put up, not the stats you are capable of putting up. :hammerhead:

All Net
02-12-2014, 07:17 PM
In fairness

Heat
Thunder
Pacers

Are all stacked.

coin24
02-12-2014, 07:21 PM
In fairness

Heat
Thunder
Pacers

Are all stacked.


Explain how the thunder are stacked??

Pacers are, but they have to be to stand any chance against the cHeat

All Net
02-12-2014, 07:24 PM
Explain how the thunder are stacked??

Pacers are, but they have to be to stand any chance against the cHeat

OKC have 2 top 10 players a good 3rd option, great 6th man and good shooters. There's a reason these 3 are the top contenders to win it all.

SpecialQue
02-12-2014, 07:25 PM
Yup, the Heat sure are a shitty team. It's amazing people still root for these scrubs. How the fvck are they able to win any games with that garbage they call a roster? It's like Lebron recruited Michael J. Fox's team from Teen Wolf and is trying to win a championship with these worthless pieces of shit.

Goddamn the Heat fvcking suck.

coin24
02-12-2014, 07:29 PM
Yup, the Heat sure are a shitty team. It's amazing people still root for these scrubs. How the fvck are they able to win any games with that garbage they call a roster? It's like Lebron recruited Michael J. Fox's team from Teen Wolf and is trying to win a championship with these worthless pieces of shit.

Goddamn the Heat fvcking suck.

Miami cavaliers, bran needs more help

Joyner82reload
02-12-2014, 07:34 PM
Looks better than the 2014 Thunder sans Westbrook :confusedshrug:

http://oi61.tinypic.com/25upes6.jpg

Keno
02-12-2014, 07:47 PM
Looks better than the 2014 Thunder sans Westbrook :confusedshrug:

http://oi61.tinypic.com/25upes6.jpg

Missing a top 10 player will do that :biggums:

Capable of 20+ ppg, get 30-40 points (finals-Miami) on any given night.

Anyways stupid comparison, Miami are the supposed "most stacked team of alltime", and I just debunked that.

And OKC last year weren't considered stacked.

SpecialQue
02-12-2014, 07:49 PM
Missing a top 10 player will do that :biggums:

Capable of 20+ ppg, get 30-40 points (finals-Miami) on any given night.

Anyways stupid comparison, Miami are the supposed "most stacked team of alltime", and I just debunked that.

And OKC last year weren't considered stacked.

You didn't debunk a fvcking thing.

Black and White
02-12-2014, 07:51 PM
Missing a top 10 player will do that :biggums:

Capable of 20+ ppg, get 30-40 points (finals-Miami) on any given night.

Anyways stupid comparison, Miami are the supposed "most stacked team of alltime", and I just debunked that.

And OKC last year weren't considered stacked.

Name 5 teams more stacked than the Miami Heat

Keno
02-12-2014, 07:52 PM
You didn't debunk a fvcking thing.

lol? Nikka you blind? Can't read simple stats.

Warfan
02-12-2014, 07:52 PM
In fairness

Heat
Thunder
Pacers

Are all stacked.
:applause:

i will say though that wade and bosh went ghost against the pacers, but wades game 4 in the finals and ray allens shot were good enough help to say the least. If u say the heat aren't stacked you're completely retarded, or just an annoying lebron stan

Keno
02-12-2014, 07:55 PM
Name 5 teams more stacked than the Miami Heat

Lmao. You're kidding, right?

Russell's Celtics
Wilt's Lakers
Kareem/Magic Lakers
Bird's Celtics
Jordan's Bulls
Shaq's Lakers
2003-2004 Lakers
2008 Celtics
2012-2013 Lakers

Warfan
02-12-2014, 07:56 PM
Lmao. You're kidding, right?

Russell's Celtics
Wilt's Lakers
Kareem/Magic Lakers
Bird's Celtics
Jordan's Bulls
Shaq's Lakers
2003-2004 Lakers
2008 Celtics
2012-2013 Lakers
:roll:

Keno
02-12-2014, 07:57 PM
:roll:

What's so funny?

sd3035
02-12-2014, 07:59 PM
92 dream team

Barkley - 16ppg
malone - 14ppg
mullin - 14ppg
drexler - 13ppg
jordan - 12ppg
ewing - 11ppg
robinson - 11ppg
bird - 9ppg
magic - 9ppg
pippen - 8ppg
laettner - 7ppg
stockton - 5ppg

this team wasnt stacked either... only barkley averaged over 15ppg


OP destroyed

Black and White
02-12-2014, 07:59 PM
Lmao. You're kidding, right?

Russell's Celtics
Wilt's Lakers
Kareem/Magic Lakers
Bird's Celtics
Jordan's Bulls
Shaq's Lakers
2003-2004 Lakers
2008 Celtics
2012-2013 Lakers

I don't know about these ones

talkingconch
02-12-2014, 08:01 PM
Nice try OP

someone post stats the year before they got together.

/thread

Keno
02-12-2014, 08:01 PM
I don't know about these ones

Regardless of the ones you bolded, that's 5.

talkingconch
02-12-2014, 08:02 PM
92 dream team

Barkley - 16ppg
malone - 14ppg
mullin - 14ppg
drexler - 13ppg
jordan - 12ppg
ewing - 11ppg
robinson - 11ppg
bird - 9ppg
magic - 9ppg
pippen - 8ppg
laettner - 7ppg
stockton - 5ppg

this team wasnt stacked either... only barkley averaged over 15ppg

There it is.

Black and White
02-12-2014, 08:03 PM
Regardless of the ones you bolded, that's 5.

Are you trying to say the Heat are not stacked? Whats the point of this thread?

Warfan
02-12-2014, 08:04 PM
Are you trying to say the Heat are not stacked? Whats the point of this thread?

This

SpecialQue
02-12-2014, 08:05 PM
Are you trying to say the Heat are not stacked? Whats the point of this thread?

The point is that Lebron and the Heat are "underdogs." These kids are seriously convinced that their team isn't the clear favorite to win it all again. They've been pushing this bullshit narrative all season long.

Black and White
02-12-2014, 08:10 PM
The point is that Lebron and the Heat are "underdogs." These kids are seriously convinced that their team isn't the clear favorite to win it all again. They've been pushing this bullshit narrative all season long.

Never thought I would see the day that a team with Bran, Wade, Bosh, Beasley, Ray Allen, Oden, Lewis, Cole, Chalmers, Birdman, Battier etc would not be considered a title favourite, especially considering they are the defending championship.

Keno
02-12-2014, 08:11 PM
Are you trying to say the Heat are not stacked? Whats the point of this thread?

It means if people consider the Heat stacked, then the '94 Rockets and the '01 Sixers were stacked too. Can't be hypocrites here.

Furthermore, this proves that LeBron's team, in reality, aren't the most stacked team in NBA history.

Magic 32
02-12-2014, 08:12 PM
It means if people consider the Heat stacked, then the '94 Rockets and the '01 Sixers were stacked too. Can't be hypocrites here.

Furthermore, this proves that LeBron's team, in reality, aren't the most stacked team in NBA history.

in 2013?

Keno
02-12-2014, 08:13 PM
in 2013?

What?

Magic 32
02-12-2014, 08:14 PM
What?

So the team was not stacked in 2011 and 2012?

Black and White
02-12-2014, 08:15 PM
It means if people consider the Heat stacked, then the '94 Rockets and the '01 Sixers were stacked too. Can't be hypocrites here.

Furthermore, this proves that LeBron's team, in reality, aren't the most stacked team in NBA history.

Because of pure stats???? You are an idiot, the more ball/play-time you get the more points, rebs etc you will get, its pretty simple math.

For example, Afflalo was a role player but now that he is a number 1 option look at his stats, Terrence Ross, Bledsoe, Dragic etc are also examples of this (not saying they aren't good players though)

Stackedness is about talent on a team, Bosh, Wade and Bron are all #1 options in their own right, if there was no Bron in the 2011 Finals you are telling me Wades ppg would not increase???

Keno
02-12-2014, 08:17 PM
So the team is not stacked in 2011 and 2012?

2011? They had no case, it was LeBron/Wade/Bosh + bunch of old, washed up nobodies.

So unless Shane Battier makes your team stacked, no case for 2012 either.

Magic 32
02-12-2014, 08:21 PM
2011? They had no case, it was LeBron/Wade/Bosh + bunch of old, washed up nobodies.

So unless Shane Battier makes your team stacked, no case for 2012 either.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/leaving-now-grandpa-simpsons.gif

Keno
02-12-2014, 08:23 PM
Because of pure stats???? You are an idiot, the more ball/play-time you get the more points, rebs etc you will get, its pretty simple math.

For example, Afflalo was a role player but now that he is a number 1 option look at his stats, Terrence Ross, Bledsoe, Dragic etc are also examples of this (not saying they aren't good players though)

Stackedness is about talent on a team, Bosh, Wade and Bron are all #1 options in their own right, if there was no Bron in the 2011 Finals you are telling me Wades ppg would not increase???

Horse shit. Afflalo is averaging .7 more minutes than last season, and average 3 more ppg. That's because he's improved his game, especially the 3 ball, has nothing to do with minutes.

Take LeBron off this Heat team, they would be lucky to make the Finals. **** outta here with that bullshit.

SpecialQue
02-12-2014, 08:23 PM
2011? They had no case, it was LeBron/Wade/Bosh + bunch of old, washed up nobodies.

So unless Shane Battier makes your team stacked, no case for 2012 either.

Really, this isn't enough?

Fvcking Christ, these kids today. :facepalm

Keno
02-12-2014, 08:27 PM
Really, this isn't enough?

Fvcking Christ, these kids today. :facepalm

If Phil Jackson/Popp or even Tom Thib was coaching this team, they would win it all, for sure.

Anyways, outside these three players, the ****ing team was hot trash. Garbage at the PG position, garbage at the center. Terrible bench.

Magic 32
02-12-2014, 08:27 PM
If Phil Jackson/Popp or even Tom Thib was coaching this team, they would win it all, for sure.

Anyways, outside these three players, the ****ing team was hot trash. Garbage at the PG position, garbage at the center. Terrible bench.

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Black and White
02-12-2014, 08:28 PM
Horse shit. Afflalo is averaging .7 more minutes than last season, and average 3 more ppg. That's because he's improved his game, especially the 3 ball, has nothing to do with minutes.

Take LeBron off this Heat team, they would be lucky to make the Finals. **** outta here with that bullshit.

No lie, if LeBron didn't play in the finals or Wade just ignored trying to accomodate him they would have probably won the title, and Heat fans have admitted this.

Afflalo is playing better yes, but he has talked in an interview about his production going up ever since he was given a bigger role.

Keno
02-12-2014, 08:30 PM
No lie, if LeBron didn't play in the finals or Wade just ignored trying to accomodate him they would have probably won the title, and Heat fans have admitted this.

Afflalo is playing better yes, but he has talked in an interview about his production going up ever since he was given a bigger role.

Without LeBron the wouldn't even get by Chicago................

Black and White
02-12-2014, 08:32 PM
Without LeBron the wouldn't even get by Chicago................

I am talking about the Finals, thats how stacked they are, that they would have been better if the best player in the league didn't play/had a smaller role.

MadSolar
02-12-2014, 08:34 PM
For comparison sake, let's look at playoff runs in the past from stacked teams.

93-94 Hakeem's Rockets (won championship).
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2w7ixhe.jpg

Hakeem: 28.9ppg
Maxwell: 13.8ppg
Horry: 11.7ppg


00-01 Iverson's Sixers (lost to Lakers).
http://oi42.tinypic.com/2sb1qpv.jpg
Iverson: 32.9ppg
McKie: 14.6ppg
Mutombo: 13.9ppg


And finally, 12-13 LeBron's Heat (won the championship).
http://oi39.tinypic.com/b8oe90.jpg
LeBron: 26.2ppg
Wade: 14.1ppg
Bosh: 12.3ppg

Clearly, as you can see, this team is truly stacked.
Give me a 34 year old Mutombo and Mckie over 28 yr old Bosh and 31 yr old wade any day of the week. How did Lebron carry those scrubs to a championship? :rolleyes:

MadSolar
02-12-2014, 08:36 PM
What are the Heats W/L without Lebron since 2011? Like 8wins and 0 Losses.
Didn't they beat the spurs in the reg season when Wade,Lebron, and Bosh sat out the game last year?

Angel Face
02-12-2014, 08:40 PM
Miami Heat, most stacked team against their competition. 3 superstars, former all stars, fully loaded bench. On paper they're the most stacked team. Teams like OKC aren't stacked. It looks stacked because KD is making them look stacked.

looking stacked =/= being stacked.

Blue&Orange
02-12-2014, 08:42 PM
If Phil Jackson/Popp or even Tom Thib was coaching this team, they would win it all, for sure.

Anyways, outside these three players, the ****ing team was hot trash. Garbage at the PG position, garbage at the center. Terrible bench.
maybe this idiot could point us all to another team that have 3 MAX PLAYERS and have a decent bench... i clearly remember OKC trading Harden because they coudn't afford 3 MAX PLAYERS.


I clearly remember Lebrontards bashing OKC for being cheap and how they lost their chance of beating the Heat.

Oh and if stats are everything, Heat should trade for Felton and then Hire D'Antoni, they would get a world class PG :lol :roll:


Horry+Maxwell = Wade+Bosh :roll: :roll: :lol


Lebrontards don't believe Heat will make the finals so the are already on damage control.


10-15 years from now Lebron wont sniff the TOP10, deal with it.

Keno
02-12-2014, 08:51 PM
maybe this idiot could point us all to another team that have 3 MAX PLAYERS and have a decent bench... i clearly remember OKC trading Harden because they coudn't afford 3 MAX PLAYERS.


I clearly remember Lebrontards bashing OKC for being cheap and how they lost their chance of beating the Heat.

Oh and if stats are everything, Heat should trade for Felton and then Hire D'Antoni, they would get a world class PG :lol :roll:


Horry+Maxwell = Wade+Bosh :roll: :roll: :lol


Lebrontards don't believe Heat will make the finals so the are already on damage control.


10-15 years from now Lebron wont sniff the TOP10, deal with it.

You lose all credibility when you say dumb shit like that. LeBron is already, safely and firmly, at the number eight spot.

Black and White
02-12-2014, 09:00 PM
You lose all credibility when you say dumb shit like that. LeBron is already, safely and firmly, at the number eight spot.

You lose credibility when you say he is locked in at #8, career wise,

MJ
KAJ
Russell
Magic
Bird
Wilt
Shaq
Kobe
Duncan

are all better

then there is Hakeem too.

Keno
02-12-2014, 09:04 PM
You lose credibility when you say he is locked in at #8, career wise,

MJ
KAJ
Russell
Magic
Bird
Wilt
Shaq
Kobe
Duncan

are all better

then there is Hakeem too.

:facepalm

He's already passed Kobe and Hakeem. One more MVP or Championship and he's passing Duncan and Shaq.

talkingconch
02-12-2014, 09:08 PM
:facepalm

He's already passed Kobe and Hakeem. One more MVP or Championship and he's passing Duncan and Shaq.
No

Black and White
02-12-2014, 09:26 PM
:facepalm

He's already passed Kobe and Hakeem. One more MVP or Championship and he's passing Duncan and Shaq.

He has not passed Kobe Bryant yet, sorry but please be rational about it.

Keno
02-12-2014, 09:32 PM
He has not passed Kobe Bryant yet, sorry but please be rational about it.

How has he not? Other than longevity/career total stats, Kobe has nothing over LeBron except for a few role player / 2nd option rings.

FLDFSU
02-12-2014, 09:47 PM
:applause: :applause: to the OP.

And something else to consider: how in the world are the Heat the most stacked team in history when one player so dominates them in all relevant statistical categories?

Also these same posters claiming the Heat are stacked then claim that if Lebron leaves in the off season the Heat will not even remain in the top 12 teams in the NBA. How does the most stacked team in NBA history lose one player and not even remain a top 12 team in a water-down NBA?

JT123
02-12-2014, 09:50 PM
:applause: :applause: to the OP.

And something else to consider: how in the world are the Heat the most stacked team in history when one player so dominates them in all relevant statistical categories?

Also these same posters claiming the Heat are stacked then claim that if Lebron leaves in the off season the Heat will not even remain in the top 12 teams in the NBA. How does the most stacked team in NBA history lose one player and not even remain a top 12 team in a water-down NBA?
:applause: Agreed. How can you be stacked when your 2nd best player can't even play back to backs at the age of 32? :biggums:

Keno
02-12-2014, 09:51 PM
:applause: :applause: to the OP.

And something else to consider: how in the world are the Heat the most stacked team in history when one player so dominates them in all relevant statistical categories?

Also these same posters claiming the Heat are stacked then claim that if Lebron leaves in the off season the Heat will not even remain in the top 12 teams in the NBA. How does the most stacked team in NBA history lose one player and not even remain a top 12 team in a water-down NBA?

inb4 he stat pads. I've been telling my friend at school this too. He never understands.

Deuce Bigalow
02-12-2014, 09:55 PM
Show 2011 stats
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/196fuarapyylmgif/ku-xlarge.gif

Keno
02-12-2014, 09:57 PM
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/196fuarapyylmgif/ku-xlarge.gif

Already ethered him.

Next.

Magic 32
02-12-2014, 09:58 PM
Already ethered him.

Next.


Next what?

The next 2014 jan?

Keno
02-12-2014, 09:59 PM
Next what?

The next 2014 jan?

The next post for me to ether.

Black and White
02-12-2014, 10:01 PM
How has he not? Other than longevity/career total stats, Kobe has nothing over LeBron except for a few role player / 2nd option rings.

For 2 of those rings he was more that just a "role player", stop being so narrow minded,

Kobe is the 4th greatest scorer of all-time

5 time champion

there is no sin in saying that LeBrons body of work hasn't reached that level yet, it might do one day, but not yet.

Keno
02-12-2014, 10:05 PM
For 2 of those rings he was more that just a "role player", stop being so narrow minded,

Kobe is the 4th greatest scorer of all-time

5 time champion

there is no sin in saying that LeBrons body of work hasn't reached that level yet, it might do one day, but not yet.

2000 ring: clearly role player.

2001/2002 rings: 2nd option, good rings.

As I said, he has nothing over LeBron except a few 2nd option rings and career total stats (that LeBron will more than likely pass).

Black and White
02-12-2014, 10:08 PM
2000 ring: clearly role player.

2001/2002 rings: 2nd option, good rings.

As I said, he has nothing over LeBron except a few 2nd option rings and career total stats (that LeBron will more than likely pass).

Maybe, but he hasn't passed him yet.

aj1987
02-12-2014, 10:17 PM
Maybe, but he hasn't passed him yet.
Ignore the dude. He believes that LeBron's a better player than Jordan. I'm sure that guy is a Kobe stan pretending to be a LeStan.

Black and White
02-12-2014, 10:20 PM
Ignore the dude. He believes that LeBron's a better player than Jordan. I'm sure that guy a Kobe stan pretending to be a LeStan.

What???? I wonder whos alt he is :facepalm

Bandito
02-12-2014, 10:20 PM
Wade Bosh scores this much because Lebron is a ballhogger that only pass the ball when he doesn't want to mess with his %fg....

Keno
02-12-2014, 10:24 PM
Maybe, but he hasn't passed him yet.

Youngest to 5k, 10k, 20k, points beating Kobe by over a year.

Keno
02-12-2014, 10:24 PM
Ignore the dude. He believes that LeBron's a better player than Jordan. I'm sure that guy is a Kobe stan pretending to be a LeStan.

Where did I say that?

Black and White
02-12-2014, 10:34 PM
Youngest to 5k, 10k, 20k, points beating Kobe by over a year.

Doesn't matter yet, his career doesn't matchup, revisit this debate in a few years.

bukowski81
02-12-2014, 10:35 PM
This just shows Lebron does not make his teammates better.

This, only here people try to argue that Wade and Bosh are nor all star players.

One of them already carried a team to a championship and got FMVP, the other was capable of leading a franchise to the playoffs. If they dont produce on the Heat blame the coach, Lebron or whatever, doesnt change the fact that the Heat are very stacked.

plowking
02-12-2014, 10:38 PM
People really do overate the Heat though. Coming from a Heat fan, it should tell you something.

Our bench is terrible, and always has been throughout our finals campaigns. It really is one of the worst benches in the league, and constantly loses us leads with terrible offense, and not much better defense. This is a top heavy team that relies heavily on its best players, being the big 3.

Just look at our bench production since the big 3 formed. Last year 24th, the year before that 28th, and before that, the year we lost to Dallas, we were dead last.
You can say what you want, but its incredibly difficult to win with a bench unit that can't do anything. The fact that the Heat have done it without any kind of bench production or legit C, its a true testament to how good Bron, Wade and Bosh actually are, and how well they click.

plowking
02-12-2014, 10:41 PM
Wade Bosh scores this much because Lebron is a ballhogger that only pass the ball when he doesn't want to mess with his %fg....

He takes 16 shots a game, how in the hell is he a ballhogger?

JUDGE WITNESS
02-12-2014, 10:58 PM
What???? I wonder whos alt he is :facepalm
im gonna come clean

i had you all fooled didnt i