Who has had the better career? Dwight Howard or Chris Webber?

[RightToCensor]

Dwight... and it's not even close.

[Clyde]

explain why?

I think it's close

[SilkkTheShocker]

Dwight is criminally underrated.

[alec613]

Shut up!

[JohnFreeman]

Go back to realgm

[RightToCensor]

Has Webber even finished in Top 5 of the MVP Voting?

Not to mention Dwight made the finals, and is the better rebounder, defender, and is far more dominant then Webber has ever been.

[JohnFreeman]

Has Webber even finished in Top 5 of the MVP Voting?

Not to mention Dwight made the finals, and is the better rebounder, defender, and is far more dominant then Webber has ever been.
Webber nearly won the MVP in 2001..

[Bigsmoke]

Dwight because of durability.

Dwight is one of those "you gotta take the good with the bad" type of players and I hate that.

[KobesFinger]

Has Webber even finished in Top 5 of the MVP Voting?

Not to mention Dwight made the finals, and is the better rebounder, defender, and is far more dominant then Webber has ever been.

Yes he finished 4th in 2001

[Brokenbeat]

Dwight is criminally underrated.


The same can be said for C-Webb. :confusedshrug:

[CavaliersFTW]

Yes he finished 4th in 2001
OP showing off his age :oldlol:

[Milbuck]

I'd take peak C-Webb over anything we've seen from Dwight.

Plus Webber should have a ring right now. Dwight lost fairly.

[SilkkTheShocker]

The same can be said for C-Webb. :confusedshrug:

Not really. All we hear about is how underrated he was.

[SCdac]

To be fair to Webber, his contemporaries were (in no order): Robinson, Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq, Mourning, Duncan, Kemp, Rodman, Johnson, Mutombo, Barkley, Garnett, Dirk, Malone..... and so on.

When you're playing in an era with such great bigs, you kind of get lost in the mix.

By the time Dwight "took his team to the Finals" (his team was stacked with shooters btw who lead the team in scoring in half the playoff games that year), many of the big men listed were either long since retired or on their last legs. Dwight had his best games against old man Ilguaskas, went up against a Celtics team minus Garnett, then caved against Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum to the tune of 15 ppg. Magic even won a playoff game with Howard suspended (in the first round), they weren't a bad team.

Only reason I see Dwight having the better career is longevity, being injury-free, and playing in a era with less elite big men. Webber was saddled with a bunch of injuries, but I'd take him in his prime over prime Dwight for sure.

[KrizMiz]

stop comparing players you like to players you never saw playing!

C-WEBB all day! even if dwight wind 2 championships - its still c-webb!

[SilkkTheShocker]

I'd take peak C-Webb over anything we've seen from Dwight.

Plus Webber should have a ring right now. Dwight lost fairly.

Dwight took a team to a team to the Finals and has multiple DPOY awards. That is miles better than anything Webber did.

[Milbuck]

C-Webb averaged 21/10/4/1/1 for his career with a peak of 27/11/4/2/1, and got robbed of a ring. He's not in the Duncan/KG/Barkley/Malone/Dirk category, but he deserves to be ranked above Dwight.

[Milbuck]

Dwight took a team to a team to the Finals and has multiple DPOY awards. That is miles better than anything Webber did.
Yes, because getting to the Finals in the weakass East against Lebron's Cavs and an injured Celtics team is much more respectable than outplaying the Shaq-Kobe Lakers (but getting robbed in the end).

[Solefade]

dwight will have a better resume but i think chris webber was a way better play before the knee injuries

[RightToCensor]

OP showing off his age :oldlol:
Congrats... 4th. So cute





Dwight finished 4th twice and 2nd once.

[riseagainst]

OP is like 5 years old?

:oldlol:

[dr.hee]

OP is like 5 years old?

:oldlol:

5 years old? With special needs maybe...

[SilkkTheShocker]

it doesn't even matter. This board is obsessed with nostalgia. Anyone that played in the 90s usually gets overrated on this board. Go watch some NBA on NBC highlights on youtube, clowns.

[Milbuck]

LOL @ any dumbass who seriously thinks Dwight would even sniff top 4 in the MVP race if he played in C-Webb's era, let alone top 2. MJ, Hakeem, Ewing, D-Rob, Barkley, Malone, Zo, Stockton, Payton, Kobe, Kidd, Shaq, Iverson, Duncan, KG, Dirk, etc.

[RightToCensor]

These haters must also think Kemp > Dwight

[SilkkTheShocker]

These haters must also think Kemp > Dwight

Kemp wasn't even better than Blake Griffin. But on ISH, Kemp is friggin demigod :oldlol:

[Heavincent]

Webber.

[Twiens]

Webber quite easily. Just bad luck he had to compete with Timmy, KG, Dirk etc. The 4 spot was STACKED back then.

[K Xerxes]

It's hard to say as they were different types of players, but I find it incredible how people just dismiss Dwight.

In terms of career, Dwight is only 28, so I'm not sure how it's fair to compare it to a player who's finished his career.

Peak Dwight (which I consider to be in 2011) was an incredibly dominant player. 23-14 with DPOY level defense. Why are people just disregarding that? Webber may have been superior offensively but it's not really a contest on defense.

Peak for peak, I take Dwight. Career wise, who knows, Dwight may return to his Orlando form.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Durant would be a poor man's Michael Finley at best in the 90s.

[Milbuck]

LOL @ any dumbass who seriously thinks Dwight would even sniff top 4 in the MVP race if he played in C-Webb's era, let alone top 2. MJ, Hakeem, Ewing, D-Rob, Barkley, Malone, Zo, Stockton, Payton, Kobe, Kidd, Shaq, Iverson, Duncan, KG, Dirk, etc.
Any response Dwight fans? Any of you seriously think he'd be a top 4 MVP candidate?

[SilkkTheShocker]

Webber quite easily. Just bad luck he had to compete with Timmy, KG, Dirk etc. The 4 spot was STACKED back then.

Yea, you don't watch basketball. "Quite easily"?

Dumb.

[RightToCensor]

Dwight would be a beast in the 90s. He is the most physically athletic player the NBA has seen at his size. Dwight would run circles around the slow bigs of the 90s.

Not to mention, Dwight would be a monster if he could camp in the paint like bigs back in the day.

[gasolina]

Lol at ppl saying dwights teams were stacked with shooters when Cwebbs were like 9 deep. Take them off their teams and you get

Nelson
Lewis
Turkoglu
Young Lee
Barnes / Pietrus

VS.

Peja
Divac
Bibby
Christie
Bobby Jackson
Brad Miller

Didn't the Peja led kings win 50 games too?
Young Turkogku

[KobesFinger]

Dwight would be a beast in the 90s. He is the most physically athletic player the NBA has seen at his size. Dwight would run circles around the slow bigs of the 90s.

Not to mention, Dwight would be a monster if he could camp in the paint like bigs back in the day.

http://blog.masslive.com/basketball-hall-of-fame/2009/09/large_061209david%20robinson.jpg
http://nbaat90s.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/hakeem-olajuwon.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QJTKBhlos_c/T5hulFsGOcI/AAAAAAAAALg/FQ7Wa9p8qEc/s1600/shaq-in-his-magic-days.jpg
http://www.freshhoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/karl-malone.jpg

[RightToCensor]

Even Charles Barkley said Dwight was more physically imposing then Kemp.

[sundizz]

Actually, it is Webber when talking about true levels of impact. The NBA simply had a better top 50 level player back in those days.

1998 to 2006 top 50 >> 2007 to 2013 top 50

A prime Cwebb might be the 3rd best player in the game today. In his 4 year prime (1999 to 2003) he averaged:

25 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 4.8 ag 1.6 bpg, 1.5 spg on 48% and 70% in the regular season.


Honestly, those are amazing numbers. He could challenge Bron and KD quite easily for the MVP if he was on the Sac teams. Those Sac teams could def compete against the Thunder and Heat too.

Dwight would not be DPOY year and year out with prime KG, Duncan, Shaq, Deke, etc around. Dwight is underrated though. His prime season (#2 in MVP voting shares) he had 23 ppg, 14 rpg, 1.4 spg, 2.4 bpg on 60% fg. Honestly though his turnover prone habits must be tough to play with. Orlando was perfect because they just had deadly three point shooters all around him. Gave him the space to work.

Webber could be great on any team in the league in his prime. Dwight could be good...but not great on any team. In today's league Dwight is more valuable by a little bit...because of the lack of shot blocking in the league. In Webber's era Dwight would be much much much less valuable than Webber. Shaq would dominate Dwight so much that Dwight might play insecure all season.

[Milbuck]

Even Charles Barkley said Dwight was more physically imposing then Kemp.
:oldlol: You're the only one repeatedly bringing up Kemp. There's a reason you avoid the other names like the plague. It's because you know Dwight is simply not on their level.

[RightToCensor]

Let us all not forget...



http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/KennyCallsTimeOutWebber.gif



That's like -10 in his all-time rank. Worst choke of all time.

[YouGotServed]

TBH, this thread is an insult to Dwight Howard. He's miles ahead of C-Webb.

[MisterAmazing]

Dwight would be a beast in the 90s. He is the most physically athletic player the NBA has seen at his size. Dwight would run circles around the slow bigs of the 90s.

Not to mention, Dwight would be a monster if he could camp in the paint like bigs back in the day.

:biggums: Dwight hasnt been much of a beast NOW, when the only other legit centers are hibbert, maybe noah, etc.

[RightToCensor]

Does Hibbert still average 7rpg? Completly Pathetic.

[Milbuck]

I think it's unanimous guys, C-Webb was indeed better than Dwight ever was.

[RightToCensor]

Another way to tell how good a player is is by lookiing at his Finals Stats.....

Oh wait... :lol

[SCdac]

Let us all not forget...

That's like -10 in his all-time rank. Worst choke of all time.

I could understand this line of thinking... if Dwight wasn't such a low IQ player himself. Dude is so foul prone and turnover prone. Seen him make so many dumb mistakes

[Mr Exlax]

Better career goes to Dwight Howard hands down. More accolades.
Better player is tricky. CWebb was more skilled, but Dwight has a far greater impact. Dwight and CWebb are basically on the same tier.

[Milbuck]

Another way to tell how good a player is is by lookiing at his Finals Stats.....

Oh wait... :lol
:roll: :roll: Dwight was outscored by Hedo Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis in the Finals. Averaged 5.2ppg less than his regular season average and shot almost 10% worse. What a great player :applause:

[Mr Exlax]

:roll: :roll: Dwight was outscored by Hedo Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis in the Finals. Averaged 5.2ppg less than his regular season average and shot almost 10% worse. What a great player :applause:

He was being defended by Bynum and Gasol. Both are taller players with longer arms. Even then, he hadn't worked with Hakeem yet. He got better offensively the next two seasons. It's one thing to hate him as a person. I would think that you can't deny the man's skill and impact on the game though.

[D.J.]

Dwight was every bit the MVP candidate prime Webber was, all while winning 3 DPOYs and being a much more dominant defender. Webber was better at filling out the statsheet overall, but he was soft in the post and was also injury prone. Dwight is much more durable.

In Webber's defense, he did have much more competition with bigs. Shaq, Malone, Barkley, Mourning, Duncan, Robinson, Hakeem, Ben Wallace. He's also 1 of only 6 players to average 20/9/4 for a career. But let's be honest here. You take away Webber's offensive skills and passing ability, he's a soft defender and fragile. His advantage on offense isn't enough to make up for Dwight's significant advantage on defense. But still, let's look at their career numbers:


Webber
20.7 PPG
9.8 RPG
4.2 APG
1.4 SPG
1.4 BPG
47.9% shooting
1x All-NBA 1st team
3x All-NBA 2nd team
1x All-NBA 3rd team
4th in MVP voting only time higher than 7th
1 rebounding title


Dwight
18.3 PPG
12.9 RPG
1.5 APG
1.0 SPG
2.2 BPG
57.8% shooting
5x All-NBA 1st team
2x All-NBA 3rd team
4x All-Defensive 1st team
1x All-Defensive 2nd team
Runner up for MVP 1x, top 5 3 other times
3x DPOY
5 rebounding titles
2 block titles


There's nothing to suggest, whether statistically or impact, that Webber has had a better career than Dwight Howard.

[Mr.Kite]

Durant would be a poor man's Michael Finley at best in the 90s.

Funny because we all know Durant is better than Lebron now.

So what does this make of lebron in the 90s?

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kobe-lebron-block.jpg

[RightToCensor]

Funny because we all know Durant is better than Lebron now.

So what does this make of lebron in the 90s?

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kobe-lebron-block.jpg
What does this make Kobe and Duncan look like...


http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Tim+Duncan+Miami+Heat+v+San+Antonio+Spurs+irT8SJQi rsEl.jpg

http://www.aniloncu.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/hedo-turkoglu-blocks-kobe-bryant.jpg






Please try harder

[chocolatethunder]

Kemp wasn't even better than Blake Griffin. But on ISH, Kemp is friggin demigod :oldlol:
While I agree w what you're saying and understand your point. They year the Sonics went to the finals Kemp played better and I mean far better than anything Griffin has done. He was dropping 20ft jumpers in Malone's grill, dunking on everyone and playing good D.

[YouGotServed]

Howard has a finals appearance, multiple DPOY awards, and his impact goes way beyond stats. He's an MVP caliber player. Even now he's in MVP discussions as he's leading the Rockets to 3rd place in the West.

Anyone who says Webbers had the better career is a fool or a blatant troll. Dwight's had the better career and he's the superior player. This isn't even debatable.

[D.J.]

While I agree w what you're saying and understand your point. They year the Sonics went to the finals Kemp played better and I mean far better than anything Griffin has done. He was dropping 20ft jumpers in Malone's grill, dunking on everyone and playing good D.


You can even argue that Kemp was better than prime Amare. 19/11 with almost 2 BPG, shooting in the mid 50s from the field, and elite D is still significantly better than 25/9 with average D at best and similar shooting percentages. But Kemp in '95 and '96 was playing on another level. He was a man on a mission.

[Mr.Kite]

What does this make Kobe and Duncan look like...


http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Tim+Duncan+Miami+Heat+v+San+Antonio+Spurs+irT8SJQi rsEl.jpg

http://www.aniloncu.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/hedo-turkoglu-blocks-kobe-bryant.jpg






Please try harder

Even the GOAT gets blocked, but crying for foul after a little bit of hand checking is a big no no.

[Smoke117]

Dwight Howard. I've always felt Webber was one of the most overrated scorers at the PF position. High volume shooting with low efficiency. Defensively there isn't anything to even discuss.

[imdaman99]

He was being defended by Bynum and Gasol. Both are taller players with longer arms. Even then, he hadn't worked with Hakeem yet. He got better offensively the next two seasons. It's one thing to hate him as a person. I would think that you can't deny the man's skill and impact on the game though.
Both Bynum and Gasol are average defenders. He got locked up inferior players and it wasn't even team defense. Dwight's offensive prime isn't even Webber's non-prime offense. Dwight has been locked up by average defensive players all his life, as long as they are tall enough to cover him. But I'll give you that Dwight is better on defense.

[SamuraiSWISH]

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kobe-lebron-block.jpg

To be fair:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/424273/lebron-blocks-kobe-dunk-o.gif

[IncarceratedBob]

Dwight couldnt win with Kobe Nash and Gasol. Webber would have won multiple rings with those guys... Next

[TheMarkMadsen]

Has Dwight ever averaged 25ppg? :lol

[Smook A.]

Dwight was every bit the MVP candidate prime Webber was, all while winning 3 DPOYs and being a much more dominant defender. Webber was better at filling out the statsheet overall, but he was soft in the post and was also injury prone. Dwight is much more durable.

In Webber's defense, he did have much more competition with bigs. Shaq, Malone, Barkley, Mourning, Duncan, Robinson, Hakeem, Ben Wallace. He's also 1 of only 6 players to average 20/9/4 for a career. But let's be honest here. You take away Webber's offensive skills and passing ability, he's a soft defender and fragile. His advantage on offense isn't enough to make up for Dwight's significant advantage on defense. But still, let's look at their career numbers:


Webber
20.7 PPG
9.8 RPG
4.2 APG
1.4 SPG
1.4 BPG
47.9% shooting
1x All-NBA 1st team
3x All-NBA 2nd team
1x All-NBA 3rd team
4th in MVP voting only time higher than 7th
1 rebounding title


Dwight
18.3 PPG
12.9 RPG
1.5 APG
1.0 SPG
2.2 BPG
57.8% shooting
5x All-NBA 1st team
2x All-NBA 3rd team
4x All-Defensive 1st team
1x All-Defensive 2nd team
Runner up for MVP 1x, top 5 3 other times
3x DPOY
5 rebounding titles
2 block titles


There's nothing to suggest, whether statistically or impact, that Webber has had a better career than Dwight Howard.
This.

/thread

[Smoke117]

Has Dwight ever averaged 25ppg? :lol

Webber averaged over 25ppg once in his career with 27.1ppg. He needed 23.4 shot attempts to do that. Very Impressive. :facepalm That's a lot of horrible looking jump shots and poor, poor man's Karl Malone mid range jumpers to watch.

[TheMarkMadsen]

moron stop comparing career stats when C Webb is retired and Dwight is still in his physical prime.

C Webb fell off at 31 and his stats declined for the next 4 years after that..

C Webb was a boss who had years of 25/11/5, 27/11/4, 25/10/5, 23/11/5

Dwight isn't getting close to that scoring or play making

[RoseCity07]

Chris Webber. Better players all around. Chris Webber did not f*cking miss from that elbow. His midrange was one of the best I've ever seen from a big.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Webber averaged over 25ppg once in his career with 27.1ppg. He needed 23.4 shot attempts to do that. Very Impressive. :facepalm That's a lot of horrible looking jump shots and poor, poor man's Karl Malone mid range jumpers to watch.


first off, he averaged 25ppg 3 straight years and his 01 season was better than anything Dwight has ever done

C Webb actually had the skill to shoot 23 times per game while leading a team to 55 wins

[Smook A.]

Chris Webber. Better players all around. Chris Webber did not f*cking miss from that elbow. His midrange was one of the best I've ever seen from a big.
This is about having a better career not a better game. I think prime webber had a nice game but imo dwight has had the better career

[Smoke117]

first off, he averaged 25ppg 3 straight years and his 01 season was better than anything Dwight has ever done

C Webb actually had the skill to shoot 23 times per game while leading a team to 55 wins

Webber was so good he managed to average 23.3ppg on 24.5 shot attempts in the 2001 playoffs. I wonder if any other big man has ever averaged 20+ shots and ended up with more shpg than ppg in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure most of you are too young to even have watched Webber to actually think he had anything but 2 moves in the post. His post game was as none-existent as Dwight's.

Chris Webber had the opposite problem that Rasheed Wallace had. Webber thought he was better than he really was, while Sheed had all the talent and skill and never put it to it's full use.

[RoseCity07]

This is about having a better career not a better game. I think prime webber had a nice game but imo dwight has had the better career

Neither won a championship Dwight got owned by Bynum and Gasol in the finals. Chris Webber got beat by a stacked Laker team with prime Shaq and young Kobe. It's worth considering that Webber is ringless because he went up against a GOAT level team. The Kings were also ass raped by the refs. No one questions that Dwight got dominated in the finals. Dwight is a career loser.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Webber was so good he managed to average 23.3ppg on 24.5 shot attempts in the 2001 playoffs. I wonder if any other big man has ever averaged 20+ shots and ended up with more shpg than ppg in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure most of you are too young to even have watched Webber to actually think he had anything but 2 moves in the post. His post game was as none-existent as Dwight's.

Chris Webber had the opposite problem that Rasheed Wallace had. Webber thought he was better than he really was, while Sheed had all the talent and skill and never put it to it's full use.

We really going to bring up post season play after Howard led the Lakers to their worst playoff defeat in HISTORY?

[D.J.]

moron stop comparing career stats when C Webb is retired and Dwight is still in his physical prime.

C Webb fell off at 31 and his stats declined for the next 4 years after that..

C Webb was a boss who had years of 25/11/5, 27/11/4, 25/10/5, 23/11/5

Dwight isn't getting close to that scoring or play making


Filling out the statsheet /= impact. Webber was averaging 24-25 PPG and needing 21-22 shots to do it. Even at his best, he was only getting to the line 5-6 times a game.

Looking at other elite scoring bigs, Shaq was averaging 27-28 PPG and needing only around 18 shots and getting to the line 10-11 times. Malone was also averaging 27-28 PPG and needing only 18-19 shots and getting to the line a good 10 times. David Robinson, averaging roughly the same number of points as Webber only needed 16-17 shots and also was getting 10 free throw attempts. Mourning in the low 20s never averaged more than 15.4 FGA and was often around only 14. Charles Barkley averaged 20 and 23 PPG while attempting only 13 and 13.8 shots.

The bigs I mentioned all had far bigger impacts than Webber. All averaging a similar number of points on far fewer shot attempts and getting to the foul line at least 4 more times. 24-25 PPG is nice, but it means very little when your number of field goal attempts is almost as high and you don't get to the line much.

[Xiao Yao You]

Webber

[JohnFreeman]

Webber actually had competition at his position

[Jameerthefear]

Dwight. Prime Dwight would be an even better player in the early 00's because you were allowed to be more physical.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Even the GOAT gets blocked, but crying for foul after a little bit of hand checking is a big no no.
kobe locked down Lebrons arm on the second block:facepalm :coleman:

[PsychoBe]

Webber actually had competition at his position

this. dwight was lauded as the best big-man by default considering there weren't very many. webber was just one of many.

[JohnFreeman]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1646742/chris-webber-throws-it-down-o.gif

[RightToCensor]

That dunk reminds me that Dwight was way more iconic then C-Webb.




Dwight's Superman Dunk >>>>>>>>>>

[No_Look604]

Chris Webber was a magician with the ball!

[RightToCensor]

Chris Webber was a magician with the ball!
And not even Harry Potter could lead him to the Finals.

[JohnFreeman]

And not even Harry Potter could lead him to the Finals.
I can tell you post at realgm, you ain't funny

[Im Still Ballin]

If not for the injury and rigging in 02' C-Webb would be in the KG/TD/Dirk class of PF's.

Duncan could be put in his own class though

[yeaaaman]

If not for the injury and rigging in 02' C-Webb would be in the KG/TD/Dirk class of PF's.

Duncan could be put in his own class though

I disagree, if you really watch Webber or look up footage on youtube, he wasn't on their level. He had great impact but I wouldn't put him up there with those guys at all. Not a discredit to him, I just think those 3 were at another level.

[Overdrive]

Howard has the better career. He made the Finals, has more Hardware, but he isn't the better player in any way.

[JohnFreeman]

Webber had to play in the big man era. If Webber played today, he would be beasting and feasting

[Im Still Ballin]

Webber had to play in the big man era. If Webber played today, he would be beasting and feasting

Him & Boogie frontcourt :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Bandito]

That dunk reminds me that Dwight was way more iconic then C-Webb.




Dwight's Superman Dunk >>>>>>>>>>
Neither are icons. I prefer Webber because he is more versatile in everything to Dwight .

[JohnFreeman]

Him & Boogie frontcourt :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
They could never stop that front court

[lpublic_enemyl]

Howard has the better career. He made the Finals, has more Hardware, but he isn't the better player in any way.
This, except he is a better defensive player. Webber is the better player overall

[Jameerthefear]

Howard has the better career. He made the Finals, has more Hardware, but he isn't the better player in any way.
Yes he is. He's a much better player than Webber.

[AnaheimLakers24]

I can tell you post at realgm, you ain't funny
:roll:

[JohnFreeman]

Yes he is. He's a much better player than Webber.
Howard would be exposed in the early 2000s. Webber had to switch on to Oneal at times during the playoffs

[Fudge]

RG gonna make this topic as the next "Tmac=Point Forward" debacle. :roll:

[houston]

Howard by far

[Bandito]

Yes he is. He's a much better player than Webber.
Explain to me how? Even Nash had to yell at him because of his stone feet and horrible offensive awareness.

[Jameerthefear]

Explain to me how? Even Nash had to yell at him because of his stone feet and horrible offensive awareness.
He was injured. Have you seen him in Houston? Much improved. Not to Orlando yet but he's getting there. Howard at his best is definitely better than Webber's best. Defensively he was just on another level. One of the best defensive big men of all time. The offensive gap isn't even big tbh.

[lpublic_enemyl]

He was injured. Have you seen him in Houston? Much improved. Not to Orlando yet but he's getting there. Howard at his best is definitely better than Webber's best. Defensively he was just on another level. One of the best defensive big men of all time. The offensive gap isn't even big tbh.
arent u like 15? how do u know what c webb was like?

[Fudge]

He was injured. Have you seen him in Houston? Much improved. Not to Orlando yet but he's getting there. Howard at his best is definitely better than Webber's best. Defensively he was just on another level. One of the best defensive big men of all time. The offensive gap isn't even big tbh.
:biggums:

[Thunderstruck]

The fact that we're even making this comparison is sad for Dwight. He's the best center of his era and a physical specimen, but would have been above average at best in the 90s. I think he has all the tools but his personality has kept him from becoming dominant.

[themurph]

The fact that we're even making this comparison is sad for Dwight. He's the best center of his era and a physical specimen, but would have been above average at best in the 90s. I think he has all the tools but his personality has kept him from becoming dominant.


Nah...some people are having this discussion because the hate for Howard as reached ridiculous levels...

Howard will be fine...He's on the right team and is finally getting healthy....

People need to start paying attention to actual games instead of over-the-top narratives....

[Genaro]

C-Webb is the better player, Dwight had better carrer, although with much weeker competition

[Bandito]

He was injured. Have you seen him in Houston? Much improved. Not to Orlando yet but he's getting there. Howard at his best is definitely better than Webber's best. Defensively he was just on another level. One of the best defensive big men of all time. The offensive gap isn't even big tbh.
Im not talking about athleticism i am talking about awareness. He was slower, true but he was horrible in the pick and roll and positioning on offense. He wanted to be a 1 on 1 player but with Nash there he couldnt. Heck he played miles better when Kobe had the ball because he used to cater to Shaq before.

Offensively Webber was great off the ball and with the ball he was a magician, underrated passer. Dwight can only score on putbacks and 1 on 1, but Webber can score 1 on 1, off the ball and putback. Webber IQ is really underrated.

[houston]

Webber so overrated by people. Dude was injury prone and soft and wasn't a real leader like that.

[lpublic_enemyl]

Webber so overrated by people. Dude was injury prone and soft and wasn't a real leader like that.
More of a leader than Howard

[houston]

More of a leader than Howard


Not really Webber had his chance to lead his team to the Finals and he blew it bad. At least we seen Howard put a team on his back to reach the Finals.

[yeaaaman]

Howard would be exposed in the early 2000s. Webber had to switch on to Oneal at times during the playoffs

As far as I remember Webber only covered Shaq for any significant amount of time after Divac's fouled out rather than watch Scott Pollard and Lawrence Funderburke get manhandled. And it's not like he shut him down, he did a good job and took on the challenge which I wouldn't expect anything less from a player of his caliber.

I definitely don't think he did better at that than Howard would have, I hope that's not what you're insinuating.

[Stringer Bell]

Howard has had the better career.

Webber was unfortunate to suffer from injuries. He was insanely talented. Great hands to snatch the boards, strength, athleticism, and one of the best passing big men ever.

He also settled for too many jumpers from the elbow when I think he could have been a better presence down low.

[Marlo Stanfield]

Webber was a better player WHEN he was healthy.

[JohnFreeman]

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