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maybeshewill13
02-18-2014, 04:38 AM
Source said Sacramento offered Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore and two picks for Rajon Rondo. Rondo wasn’t interested in re-signing with Sacramento.
VIA Mark Spears

Apparently it didn't go through because Rondo said he would not re-sign with the Kings.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 04:40 AM
Wow. Not sure if I like the offer to be honest. Rondo has attitude problems anyway

iamgine
02-18-2014, 04:43 AM
Good for Sacramento. I think Isaiah Thomas is more valuable than Rondo due to his younger age and his recent play.

Black and White
02-18-2014, 04:44 AM
Damn, this is not a bad deal at all....

MichaelCorleone
02-18-2014, 04:45 AM
Lucky for the Kings the trade didn't go through.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 04:45 AM
Damn, this is not a bad deal at all....
Why would Rondo say no? We aren't a bad squad..Him and Boogie would be awesome

MichaelCorleone
02-18-2014, 04:46 AM
Why would Rondo say no? We aren't a bad squad..Him and Boogie would be awesome
Rondo wants to contend immediately, not wait for a rebuild/tank.

Magic731
02-18-2014, 04:47 AM
I feel like Rondo would be great for the Kings. I don't watch the Kings all that often but it seems like they have a good collection of offensive talent. Rondo would be the perfect player to make sure they all get involved in the offense while also inspiring the team with his hustle and defense.

Black and White
02-18-2014, 04:48 AM
Why would Rondo say no? We aren't a bad squad..Him and Boogie would be awesome

Him Boogie and Gay would be nice, that deal is the exact type of deal I would want for Rondo, 2 young guys and picks,

Rondo might have said no because it might not be the team he wants to go to (location wise) or doesn't have a positive feel about playing with Cousins, I dunno, it could be a number of things

andremiller07
02-18-2014, 04:48 AM
Don't think they did considering they can't trade picks. Shit trade for the Kings better off doing Thomas + something else to get Jeff Teague or Kyle Lowry.

I don't really see how Rondo would be all that good on the Kings since they don't have a single player who knows how to set screens or roll to the rim (well only Aaron Gray). Kings can't / shouldn't trade there picks not for a guy coming back of knee surgery.

RedBlackAttack
02-18-2014, 04:48 AM
Depends what the picks were.

Isiah Thomas is having a nice year and all, but Rondo has a much greater impact and is still young. I'm not sold that McLemore is ever going to amount to much in this league.

But, if Rondo didn't want to re-sign in Sactown, it's a moot point anyway. No way I give up all that for a year rental.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 04:50 AM
Don't think they did considering they can't trade picks. Shit trade for the Kings better off doing Thomas + something else to get Jeff Teague or Kyle Lowry.

I don't really see how Rondo would be all that good on the Kings since they don't have a single player who knows how to set screens or roll to the rim.
This was exactly my thoughts. I want to keep a PG who can shoot as well

El Gato Negro
02-18-2014, 04:52 AM
Good for rondo, he deserves to play for a better franchise than the kings.

DMV2
02-18-2014, 04:53 AM
Why would Rondo say no? We aren't a bad squad..Him and Boogie would be awesome
Maybe due to their management/front office getting bad reputation for the past 3 years. They got a new owner and all, but the franchise still looks dysfunction from outsiders POV.

andremiller07
02-18-2014, 04:53 AM
This was exactly my thoughts. I want to keep a PG who can shoot as well
Plus the PG position is so stacked you don't need to trade basically 4 lottery picks (Thomas would be a lottery pick if the draft went again) to get one player, that makes no sense it's not much. There's plenty of good PG's out there you can get while having a better deal than Rondo. I just don't see the fit could be wrong but.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 04:54 AM
Maybe due to their management/front office getting bad reputation for the past 3 years. They got a new owner and all, but the franchise still looks dysfunction from outsiders POV.
Well I suppose he has his reasons.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 04:55 AM
Plus the PG position is so stacked you don't need to trade basically 4 lottery picks (Thomas would be a lottery pick if the draft went again) to get one player, that makes no sense it's not much. There's plenty of good PG's out there you can get while having a better deal than Rondo. I just don't see the fit could be wrong but.

Yeah, I don't want to give up picks, way too valuable

Meticode
02-18-2014, 04:57 AM
Personally I think Rondo did Sacramento a favor. Not sure how this trade works out long-term for the the Kings if they do this.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 05:00 AM
Personally I think Rondo did Sacramento a favor. Not sure how this trade works out long-term for the the Kings if they do this.
I think Ainge would have another steal on his hands. Ainge is probably giving Rondo the stink eye. As a Kings fan though, I would rather be terrible with picks, then jump to an opportunity which might not work.

andremiller07
02-18-2014, 05:00 AM
Kings need to do a deal to get Tony Allen (since Lee came is possible) from Grizzlies or Larry Sanders. I just don't understand trading for Rondo, he's a great player but he needs players who can play off the ball and our current main two guys have zero clue.

Plus the deal mentioned is complete bs since it's not possible for the Kings to trade picks therefore it's a lie.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 05:03 AM
Kings need to do a deal to get Tony Allen (since Lee came is possible) from Grizzlies or Larry Sanders. I just don't understand trading for Rondo, he's a great player but he needs players who can play off the ball and our current main two guys have zero clue.

Plus the deal mentioned is complete bs since it's not possible for the Kings to trade picks therefore it's a lie.
Someone take Thorntons contract for the love of god :oldlol:

RedBlackAttack
02-18-2014, 05:03 AM
Kings need to do a deal to get Tony Allen (since Lee came is possible) from Grizzlies or Larry Sanders. I just don't understand trading for Rondo, he's a great player but he needs players who can play off the ball and our current main two guys have zero clue.

Plus the deal mentioned is complete bs since it's not possible for the Kings to trade picks therefore it's a lie.
The other thing is Cousins... Doesn't he prefer a slow pace? I always assumed he struggled in transition.

That would work counter to Rondo's skillset, no?

fiddy
02-18-2014, 05:06 AM
Lucky for the Kings the trade didn't go through.
I cant believe im agreeing with this clown

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 05:06 AM
The other thing is Cousins... Doesn't he prefer a slow pace? I always assumed he struggled in transition.

That would work counter to Rondo's skillset, no?
We have no threat from the perimeter apart from Gay and Thomas. Cousins likes the quick post up before he can get doubled

andremiller07
02-18-2014, 05:06 AM
The other thing is Cousins... Doesn't he prefer a slow pace? I always assumed he struggled in transition.

That would work counter to Rondo's skillset, no?
Not sure, I'm more worried about the pick n roll cause that's where Rondo is a beast right? The team is shocking at running pick and rolls our big's have no idea wtf to do on them. Which is why we get no easy buckets I don't see the team being able to help Rondo like the big 3 did in Boston. I don't see it working in the half court Cousins, Thompson and Rondo are not really good shooters and Gay is streaky and we have no SG atm.

Dizzle-2k7
02-18-2014, 05:19 AM
if rondo goes west its gonna be to a contender.. lakers, houston, dallas, sa... he aint going to sac town :no:

buddha
02-18-2014, 05:29 AM
Why would Rondo say no? We aren't a bad squad..Him and Boogie would be awesome

NBA players are Diva's he probably didn't want to live in Sacramento.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 05:37 AM
NBA players are Diva's he probably didn't want to live in Sacramento.
Probably.

iamgine
02-18-2014, 05:49 AM
Why would Rondo say no? We aren't a bad squad..Him and Boogie would be awesome
Even with Thomas, Boogie and Gay all playing Sacramento struggles to get over .500. They are now at the bottom of Western conference.

On paper, not a bad squad. Kind of very mediocre though.

BlackVVaves
02-18-2014, 06:01 AM
if rondo goes west its gonna be to a contender.. lakers, houston, dallas, sa... he aint going to sac town :no:

Check your calendar. It ain't 2009 anymore.

BlackWhiteGreen
02-18-2014, 06:03 AM
This was exactly my thoughts. I want to keep a PG who can shoot as well

Rondo can shoot, he's maybe not as lights out as the best of them, but he's still servicable. The idea that a team would rather have IT is laughable, the trade itself is skewed in the Celtics' favour though.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 06:04 AM
Rondo can shoot, he's maybe not as lights out as the best of them, but he's still servicable. The idea that a team would rather have IT is laughable, the trade itself is skewed in the Celtics' favour though.
But we need a perimeter scorer like IT...

BlackVVaves
02-18-2014, 06:07 AM
Did someone ask why wouldn't Rondo want to play for the Kings?

Right, I mean they're only one of the two worst teams in the West, and have been the perpetual model of a substandard franchise for what, 7 years now?

What kind of question is that, of course Rondo doesn't want to go to the Kings. Guys are a fringing playoff team on paper yet have found a way to sorely underperform as they have for the last several years :facepalm

BlackWhiteGreen
02-18-2014, 07:01 AM
But we need a perimeter scorer like IT...

Perimeter scorers are dime a dozen, there's only one Rondo. What is Gay if not a perimeter scorer?

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 07:05 AM
Perimeter scorers are dime a dozen, there's only one Rondo. What is Gay if not a perimeter scorer?
I have my doubts that Gay is coming back. I would like a Cousins/Rondo PnR

SHABBA
02-18-2014, 07:45 AM
Hopefully Rondo goes to a contender so we get to see more Playoff Rondo.

BlackWhiteGreen
02-18-2014, 07:49 AM
I have my doubts that Gay is coming back. I would like a Cousins/Rondo PnR

I'm not sure that's not a good thing anyway. Like I say, the deal would suck for the Kings, but not because of Rondo.


Hopefully Rondo goes to a contender so we get to see more Playoff Rondo.

We'll see him there in 2016 I'm sure, whether it's with the Celtics or not is another question

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 07:58 AM
I'm not sure that's not a good thing anyway. Like I say, the deal would suck for the Kings, but not because of Rondo.



We'll see him there in 2016 I'm sure, whether it's with the Celtics or not is another question
I want Gay to leave. We need to blow it up. I would rather suck for another year, then throw the picks away

andremiller07
02-18-2014, 08:10 AM
Says Toronto wants Rondo I wonder if we could do a 3 way where Boston gets Thomas and we get Lowry with other pieces being included off course.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 08:15 AM
Says Toronto wants Rondo I wonder if we could do a 3 way where Boston gets Thomas and we get Lowry with other pieces being included off course.
Lowry would be nice. Lowry + Amir Johnson to SAC :D

CelticBaller
02-18-2014, 08:40 AM
But Rondo isn't that valuable :rolleyes:

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 08:43 AM
But Rondo isn't that valuable :rolleyes:
Who said dis?

CelticBaller
02-18-2014, 08:45 AM
Who said dis?
Years of arguments with Rondo haters

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 08:47 AM
Years of arguments with Rondo haters
Best PG in the game when healthy.

SHABBA
02-18-2014, 08:48 AM
Best PG in the game when healthy.
Agreed. :bowdown:

FPJ
02-18-2014, 08:57 AM
Best PG in the game when healthy.

:biggums:

Not even casual fans believe that, wtf. Ish right now is better than Rondo. Rondo might just be the most overrated player in the NBA. People who say Love has empty stats should start watching Rondo play.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 09:14 AM
:biggums:

Not even casual fans believe that, wtf. Ish right now is better than Rondo. Rondo might just be the most overrated player in the NBA. People who say Love has empty stats should start watching Rondo play.
Rondo is coming off serious injury..

tragicbronson
02-18-2014, 09:17 AM
:biggums:

Not even casual fans believe that, wtf. Ish right now is better than Rondo. Rondo might just be the most overrated player in the NBA. People who say Love has empty stats should start watching Rondo play.

That just shows your level of understanding basketball, Rondo is a very talented true point guard, i would like to highlight this true because there aren't my of them in the league even if it is the era of point guards. That being said, he is a true leader, knows what to do, knows how to lead a team and set it, has right mentality and confidence to present someone who creates offense. You kids think everything is in stats fg% and other stats but you overlook values that are not shown anywhere and rondo sure has plenty of them. Players that go in this category are Paul, LeBron, Duncan. They come first to me mind but there are others that show amazing leadership. It's true that Rondo has had problems with injuries and we can't be sure that he will be as good as he was before especially in first few months but i think that player with the values i just described is always an asset.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 09:19 AM
That just shows your level of understanding basketball, Rondo is a very talented true point guard, i would like to highlight this true because there aren't my of them in the league even if it is the era of point guards. That being said, he is a true leader, knows what to do, knows how to lead a team and set it, has right mentality and confidence to present someone who creates offense. You kids think everything is in stats fg% and other stats but you overlook values that are not shown anywhere and rondo sure has plenty of them. Players that go in this category are Paul, LeBron, Duncan. They come first to me mind but there are others that show amazing leadership. It's true that Rondo has had problems with injuries and we can't be sure that he will be as good as he was before especially in first few months but i think that player with the values i just described is always an asset.
Couldn't have put it better myself.

CelticBaller
02-18-2014, 10:17 AM
:biggums:

Not even casual fans believe that, wtf. Ish right now is better than Rondo. Rondo might just be the most overrated player in the NBA. People who say Love has empty stats should start watching Rondo play.
Someone this stupid shouldn't be allowed to live

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 10:18 AM
Someone this stupid shouldn't be allowed to live
I literally put my hand on my face reading his post.

FPJ
02-18-2014, 10:25 AM
JFC, you people have no clue about bball, this site is a ****ing joke, not even worth the time to talk about advanced stats and one's true impact on a team :oldlol: . Stick to name calling and retarded trolling, kids. ****ing waste of time this site is. :oldlol:

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 10:28 AM
JFC, you people have no clue about bball, this site is a ****ing joke, not even worth the time to talk about advanced stats and one's true impact on a team :oldlol: . Stick to name calling and retarded trolling, kids. ****ing waste of time this site is. :oldlol:
Drop the stats and we will debate, if not f*ck off and bitch elsewhere fvckboy

All Net
02-18-2014, 10:29 AM
Rondo to cousins would of been great. Wonder why he wouldn't re-sign

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 10:30 AM
Rondo to cousins would of been great. Wonder why he wouldn't re-sign
Yeah I would love to know the reason. Sure we aren't a contender, but the Celtics aren't doing much better. Boogie and Rondo PnR would be good.

M47
02-18-2014, 10:38 AM
Make it happen for that playoff run..
For next year.

Rondo and Boogie are my favorite in their position. It would be awesome to see Rondo facilitate that team with the offensive capabilities that they have. They just need to work on their defense. Malone is supposed to be a defensive coach.. Rondo would help enstill that since I believe he is the best defensive point gaurd. Both teams benefit..

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 10:39 AM
Make it happen for that playoff run..
For next year.

Rondo and Boogie are my favorite in their position. It would be awesome to see Rondo facilitate that team with the offensive capabilities that they have. They just need to work on their defense. Malone is supposed to be a defensive coach.. Rondo would help enstill that since I believe he is the best defensive point gaurd. Both teams benefit..
I would take Rondo and Green possibly, I just like our picks

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 11:01 AM
They should flip it and send boogie to the celtics then, I would love that :applause:

Make it happen Ainge!!!!!
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6e089xgan1rwcc6bo1_500.gif

CelticBaller
02-18-2014, 11:49 AM
JFC, you people have no clue about bball, this site is a ****ing joke, not even worth the time to talk about advanced stats and one's true impact on a team :oldlol: . Stick to name calling and retarded trolling, kids. ****ing waste of time this site is. :oldlol:
Ironic

ballup
02-18-2014, 12:03 PM
Aren't Isiah and Maclemore on rookie contracts? No way those two wojld add up to Rondos 11 mil contract

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 12:05 PM
Aren't Isiah and Maclemore on rookie contracts? No way those two wojld add up to Rondos 11 mil contract
picks

aboss4real24
02-18-2014, 12:06 PM
wen Maclemore figures it out

hes gnna b a dam gud player

But the kings suck tho

ballup
02-18-2014, 12:07 PM
picks
Picks dont add anything to the salary difference between them.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 12:07 PM
wen Maclemore figures it out

hes gnna b a dam gud player

But the kings suck tho
Figures what out? How to put the ball in the bucket? Dude is trash

CelticBaller
02-18-2014, 12:08 PM
Figures what out? How to put the ball in the bucket? Dude is trash
He won't in the Cs

MMM
02-18-2014, 12:10 PM
picks

Didn't someone say the Kings can't trade picks.
Obviously this is a made up rumour.
Players involved don't even match up financially.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 12:11 PM
Didn't someone say the Kings can't trade picks.
Obviously this is a made up rumour.
Players involved don't even match up financially.
Yeah, I never thought this was a serious trade.

ballup
02-18-2014, 12:13 PM
Players involved don't even match up financially.
That's what I've been sayin

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 12:13 PM
Thornton for Green straight up? :oldlol:

Dizzle-2k7
02-18-2014, 12:14 PM
sac becomes an instant playoff team, overnight . but thats not good enough for rondo. my ninja needs a contender and we are all still hoping ainge does him right and trades him to Indiana or NY.

CelticBaller
02-18-2014, 12:14 PM
Didn't someone say the Kings can't trade picks.
Obviously this is a made up rumour.
Players involved don't even match up financially.
I think they have enough cap space to make it happen, if they don't the owner can pay the tax if he wants rondo

MMM
02-18-2014, 12:15 PM
Thornton for Green straight up? :oldlol:What does Thornton contract look like. Cs need to dump Green

SHABBA
02-18-2014, 12:15 PM
Surely Boston fans don't want to trade Rondo at all?

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 12:18 PM
What does Thornton contract look like. Cs need to dump Green
8 million salary 2 year contract. Celtics have a trade exception for Pierce though.

ballup
02-18-2014, 12:19 PM
Thornton for Green straight up? :oldlol:
Not sure how Green would fit with Gay there.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 12:20 PM
Not sure how Green would fit with Gay there.
Gay isn't resigning and if he did we could play Green at SG

CelticBaller
02-18-2014, 12:22 PM
Gay isn't resigning and if he did we could play Green at SG
Green can't play SG, with his lack of footwork he barely fits in the SF spot

ballup
02-18-2014, 12:24 PM
Green can't play SG, with his lack of footwork he barely fits in the SF spot
I don't think the Kings mind being dysfunctional for the rest of the season.

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 12:25 PM
I don't think the Kings mind being dysfunctional for the rest of the season.
It can't really get worse, lottery will be good though :cheers:. Kings hardly play positions anyway, coach puts out 5 guys and we try and score :oldlol: :oldlol:

aboss4real24
02-18-2014, 12:26 PM
Figures what out? How to put the ball in the bucket? Dude is trash

Hes athletic as hell , he can shoot, attack n finish at the rim , and can create a shot

guys like him will eventually become gud sooner or l8tr

JohnFreeman
02-18-2014, 12:28 PM
Hes athletic as hell , he can shoot, attack n finish at the rim , and can create a shot

guys like him will eventually become gud sooner or l8tr
I gather you don't watch him play much?

Miles and Miles
02-18-2014, 01:34 PM
So glad this didn't happen. Wow that's a terrible trade.

Levity
02-18-2014, 02:10 PM
rondo doesnt have a no trade clause and wont expire until after next season, so theres still enough reason for the kings to do it... if it was true.

like its being said, i dont think the 2 picks were actually added. why? because aiinge said hed trade rondo for 2 first round picks. not 2 picks plus good players/prospects. maybe 1 pick was added to the deal, but a 2nd would be wayyyy too much

but if there is any truth to this, i think its a decent risk for the kings. theyd be gunning for the playoffs next year, and if everything worked out, chances are rondo would want to re-sign. however, i understand him not wanting to re-sign at this point. though, i feel a rondo/gay/cousins big 3 can definitely compete for a playoff spot out west. just as long as you find the team a good off the ball shooter at the 2, and a shot blocking 4.

ProfessorMurder
02-18-2014, 02:43 PM
Man, Rondo is going to leave so fast when his contract is up. Ainge just dangles him out there every year. :facepalm

Move Green or Bass or Hump or any contract but Rondo.


rondo doesnt have a no trade clause and wont expire until after next season, so theres still enough reason for the kings to do it... if it was true.

like its being said, i dont think the 2 picks were actually added. why? because aiinge said hed trade rondo for 2 first round picks. not 2 picks plus good players/prospects. maybe 1 pick was added to the deal, but a 2nd would be wayyyy too much

but if there is any truth to this, i think its a decent risk for the kings. theyd be gunning for the playoffs next year, and if everything worked out, chances are rondo would want to re-sign. however, i understand him not wanting to re-sign at this point. though, i feel a rondo/gay/cousins big 3 can definitely compete for a playoff spot out west. just as long as you find the team a good off the ball shooter at the 2, and a shot blocking 4.

If he said he won't resign, they won't trade for him. That's the same chip Melo and Dwight used.

FireDavidKahn
02-18-2014, 03:08 PM
Why would Rondo say no? We aren't a bad squad..Him and Boogie would be awesome
You guys have the worst record in the West.:roll:

aboss4real24
02-18-2014, 03:56 PM
I gather you don't watch him play much?

WATCHED ERR GM HE PLAYED IN COLLEGE

Miles and Miles
02-18-2014, 05:11 PM
Kings GM just said this wasn't true and Ben isn't involved in any trade talks. Unfortunately that probably means IT is involved in trade talks which sucks.