Top 5 Pure Scorers of All Time

[MichaelCorleone]

Somebody in another thread laughed at me for saying Dirk and Kobe are two of the greatest scorers of all time.

My top 5 pure scorers of all time (in no order):

- Michael Jordan
- Kobe Bryant
- Allen Iverson
- Karl Malone
- Kareem Abdul Jabbar

Honorable Mention: Shaquille O'Neal, Dirk Nowitzki


Who are your top 5 pure scorers of all time?

[ImKobe]

AI should be replaced by Durant.

[MichaelCorleone]

AI should be replaced by Durant.
I have to watch a few more seasons of Durant in the playoffs before I judge and decide. So far Iverson displayed some of the most impressive scoring we've seen for a prolonged period, which I don't doubt Durant can do too.

[JohnFreeman]

Dirk is better then Malone. Malone had that Stockton PnR, Dirk creates his own shots

[MichaelCorleone]

Dirk is better then Malone. Malone had that Stockton PnR, Dirk creates his own shots
Very good point, just shows how numbers are sometimes only half right.:cheers:

[MichaelCorleone]

What exactly do u mean by pure scorer?
:confusedshrug: pure scoring player?

[dr.hee]

:confusedshrug: pure scoring player?

Can you define the term? No? What a surprise...

[JohnFreeman]

Bird? Melo?

[ImKobe]

I have to watch a few more seasons of Durant in the playoffs before I judge and decide. So far Iverson displayed some of the most impressive scoring we've seen for a prolonged period, which I don't doubt Durant can do too.

KD is on pace to win his 4th scoring title in 5 years, AI has 4 scoring titles for his career. Durant led his team to the Finals and averaged 30 ppg on above 50% shooting against Lebron. There's no way I'm putting a guy, who shot 42% FG 30% 3PT for his prime above KD. AI failed to shoot above 42% for 7 straight seasons, and the majority of those were in his prime.

Bird,KD,Dirk are all better scorers than AI.

[dr.hee]

Bird? Melo?

No idea what OP is talking about. What separates a "pure" scorer from other types of scorers? Bunch of nonsense...

[MichaelCorleone]

No idea what OP is talking about. What separates a "pure" scorer from other types of scorers? Bunch of nonsense...
What do we even mean when we call someone a "pure scorer? (http://www.sbnation.com/2013/10/14/4833574/klay-thompson-pure-scorer-golden-state-warriors)

First paragraph. Even when I try to make a thread that's not trolling, I get sh1t on...

Imagine All Net making this thread, you all will be kissing his ass.

[PostUpFreak]

What do we even mean when we call someone a "pure scorer? (http://www.sbnation.com/2013/10/14/4833574/klay-thompson-pure-scorer-golden-state-warriors)

First paragraph. Even when I try to make a thread that's not trolling, I get sh1t on...

Imagine All Net making this thread, you all will be kissing his ass.

Pure scorer = Chucker

[dr.hee]

What do we even mean when we call someone a "pure scorer? (http://www.sbnation.com/2013/10/14/4833574/klay-thompson-pure-scorer-golden-state-warriors)

First paragraph. Even when I try to make a thread that's not trolling, I get sh1t on...

Imagine All Net making this thread, you all will be kissing his ass.

The linked article is the biggest pile of shit I've read all day. Even worse than your postings.


Similarly, the concept of a "pure scorer" is a little mystifying. What is purity? An absence of contaminants. In human terms, a contaminant would be something immoral or, less harshly, lacking in the department of moral norms. Basically, to be pure is to successfully live up to the ideal, whatever it may be. In measuring purity in basketball, the ideal point guard would be one who sets up teammates and doesn't take too many shots himself. So measuring it is pretty straightforward: assists are pure, shots are impure.

Translate that to the concept of the pure scorer, and it's trickier. What makes a scorer pure? Well, by our standard definition of purity, it'd be the absence of all that is not scoring. So that would mean assists, and if you wanted to stretch it out, also perhaps rebounding and defense. In the end, by defining the "pure scorer" in this way, you're also defining the "one-dimensional ballhog." That doesn't sound as nice, does it?

We'll leave it focused on offense for ease. Points will represent the pure, and assists and offensive rebounds will represent the impure. Here's a rudimentary scale we'll call the Scorer Purity Index, including all players who averaged at least 30 minutes per game and played 50 games last season.


What the hell? And then your list...MJ and Kobe? Do you watch basketball like at all? Two of the best passing SGs of all time. Iverson? A ballhog, but still a couple seasons averaging more than 7 apg. Kareem? Had a few season with ast% comparable to great passing big men like Duncan. Malone? He was getting around 4 assists per game till he was 40 years old. As a power forward. That's as good as you realistically can expect from a big man. Underrated passer.

So...what exactly is your point? Even if we pretend for a second that the article makes any sense, the players you've picked as examples just show your complete lack of any basketball knowledge whatsoever.

:facepalm

[JohnFreeman]

No idea what OP is talking about. What separates a "pure" scorer from other types of scorers? Bunch of nonsense...
Someone who can score from anywhere, create their own shot

[dr.hee]

Someone who can score from anywhere, create their own shot

I've posted a quote from the article and that's not what OP is talking about...this would actually make some sense. But OP avoided this of course.

[dabigbaws]

1. Durant

[JohnFreeman]

I've posted a quote from the article and that's not what OP is talking about...this would actually make some sense. But OP avoided this of course.
Well he is a moron.

[JohnFreeman]

1. Durant
Durant is not a better scorer then Kobe, MJ or Kareem in their primes.

[dabigbaws]

Durant is not a better scorer then Kobe, MJ or Kareem in their primes.

yes he is, maybe not MJ but hes 1 or 2

[dr.hee]

Well he is a moron.

It takes a special kind of moron to consider MJ, Kobe, AI, Malone and Kareem one dimensional players. What a dumbass.

[JohnFreeman]

yes he is, maybe not MJ but hes 1 or 2
http://i.imgur.com/aSGGIwE.gif

[kobebeangoat]

Kobe
Kobe
Kobe
Kobe
Frobe

[Marlo_Stanfield]

.LeBron and Wilt HAVE to be on that list unless u only want players that play no defense:coleman:
3rd highest PPG(LeBron) and highest PPG (Wilt) both on great efficency:biggums:

[PostUpFreak]

Kobe
Kobe
Kobe
Kobe
Frobe
:facepalm

[Marlo_Stanfield]

1. Durant
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jan.gif

[PostUpFreak]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jan.gif
:roll: :roll:

[VIntageNOvel]

Top 3 Pure Scorer now:

1. Lebron James
2. Dwight Howard
3. Blake Griffin

they are so pure, they only got one go to move, with no trick whatsoever

[JohnFreeman]

Top 3 Pure Scorer now:

1. Lebron James
2. Dwight Howard
3. Blake Griffin

they are so pure, they only got one go to move, with no trick whatsoever
How many Kobe scoring from his wheelchair?

[VIntageNOvel]

How many Kobe scoring from his wheelchair?

around two white chicks a day, and occasionally a brunette

[aboss4real24]

a lil premature But

Jordan
Durant
Dirk
Kobe
Melo

[JohnFreeman]

around two white chicks a day, and occasionally a brunette
:cheers:

[PostUpFreak]

Top 3 Pure Scorer now:

1. Lebron James
2. Dwight Howard
3. Blake Griffin

they are so pure, they only got one go to move, with no trick whatsoever
:lol :lol to be fair with blake he recently got that midrange going for him

[Marlo_Stanfield]

a lil premature But

Jordan
Durant
Dirk
Kobe
Melo
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/hey.gif

[JohnFreeman]

a lil premature But

Jordan
Durant
Dirk
Kobe
Melo
Not sure why, I would still take Melo over Durant.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Not sure why, I would still take Melo over Durant.
:applause: :applause:
Melo>Tworant

[ralph_i_el]

Somebody in another thread laughed at me for saying Dirk and Kobe are two of the greatest scorers of all time.

My top 5 pure scorers of all time (in no order):

- Michael Jordan
- Kobe Bryant
- Allen Iverson
- Karl Malone
- Kareem Abdul Jabbar

Honorable Mention: Shaquille O'Neal, Dirk Nowitzki


Who are your top 5 pure scorers of all time?

No durant?

Take AI of the list. he was a great player but part of being a great scorer is doing it without missing a million shots.

Karl Malone over Durant for real?

[Marlo_Stanfield]

No durant?

Take AI of the list. he was a great player but part of being a great scorer is doing it without missing a million shots
then he has to remove kobe too.:coleman:

[bizil]

By position:

PG- Big O
SG- MJ
SF- Durant
PF- McAdoo
C- Wilt

Overall: (no order)

MJ
Kareem
Wilt
Kobe
Durant

[Marlo_Stanfield]

By position:

PG- Big O
SG- MJ
SF- LeBron
PF- McAdoo
C- Wilt

Overall: (no order)

MJ
Kareem
Wilt
LeBron
Durant
agree:cheers: :cheers:

[Milbuck]

MJ
Kobe
KD
Kareem
Wilt

That would be my 5 at the end of KD's career, because barring any injuries or a huge collapse in his game, he's almost a lock for it.

[ArbitraryWater]

This "pure scorer" bullshit is horrible. Pathetic way to somehow prop up Melo/Kobe.

Honestly not the biggest fan of your latest threads/posts, Michael Corleone..

[Y2ktors]

Is there a really such a thing as pure scoring?

[aboss4real24]

Is there a really such a thing as pure scoring?


Yea guys who r actually skilled scorers , who have the whole package

Not guys who jus score off dunks n layups like sum1 we know
https://twitter.com/Five5hotzz/status/435836420515573760/photo/1

[riseagainst]

career ppg doesn't necessarily translate to how good of a scorer he is, just like apg doesn't translate to how good of a passer he is.

[Prometheus]

"Results from tonight's Heat/Knicks game: LeBron outscored Carmelo 37-32, but Carmelo's 32 points were absolutely pure."

[ArbitraryWater]

career ppg doesn't necessarily translate to how good of a scorer he is, just like apg doesn't translate to how good of a passer he is.

Um. PPG=Scoring, but APG is NOT to quantify Passing, but PLAYMAKING.

So nice try

[riseagainst]

Um. PPG=Scoring, but APG is NOT to quantify Passing, but PLAYMAKING.

So nice try

nice try what?

so you are telling me Deron Williams is a better play maker than Steve Nash because he averages more assists?
:roll:

Or that elgin Baylor, George Gervin, Bob Pettit, and Oscar are better scorers than Kobe because they avg more ppg than him?
:roll:

this is what kids resort to nowadays. Stats alone do not tell the whole story. Try watching some games before you discuss basketball.

[Deuce Bigalow]

You forgot Wilt Chamberlain.

6 70 pt games
32 60 pt games
118 50 pt games
271 40 pt games
515 30 pt games
31419 career points
30.1 career ppg
7 scoring titles
9 field goal percenatage titles

[Deuce Bigalow]

Oscar Robertson the Big O had 6 seasons with 30 ppg
Averaged 29.3 ppg (48.9%FG, 83.7%FT) in his first 10 seasons
6th most 30 pt (385) and 40 pt (77) games in league history

[SHAQisGOAT]

This is pretty subjective and tough to decide, 1st of all what do you define as pure scorer?

Anyways, sad to see that George Gervin's almost never mentioned in things like these. Ice scored with the best of them and actually maintained or elevated his level the post-season, one short game of leading his team to the Finals, once.

[dr.hee]

This is pretty subjective and tough to decide, 1st of all what do you define as pure scorer?

Well most answers so far have ignored OP's take on this...he was asking about one dimensional players. Here's a pic from the article he was referring to:

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3387083/ScorePure-tz.png

:lol

As you can see, it's about the "purity" of a scorer not being "contaminated" by other factors such as offensive rebounding and passing. Yeah, some writer actually thought this makes sense. Painful to watch really.

MichaelCorleone's examples for one dimensional scorers were MJ, Kobe, Malone, Kareem and Iverson. Good list, but in my opinion it should be Hakeem, Duncan, Garnett, Magic and Jason Kidd. Biggest one trick ponies of all time.

[Prometheus]

1. Wilt Chamberlain
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Michael Jordan
4. Allen Iverson
5. Kevin Durant *(prediction)

* He only earns this title if his career continues at its current trajectory.

[Cold soul]

In no order.
MJ
Kobe
Wilt
Durant
Kareem

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

MJ
Kobe
KD
KAJ
Gervin

[SamuraiSWISH]

That I've seen?

MJ
Kobe
Durant
T-Mac
Melo

HM: Iverson

[knicksman]

1.Jordan
2. KD
3. Kobe
4. kareem
5. Shaq

Seems like they also happen to be the GOATS. That's why LeBron will never be.

[MichaelCorleone]

That I've seen?

MJ
Kobe
Durant
T-Mac
Melo

HM: Iverson
I forgot Tracy Mcgrady.:cheers: