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Derivative
02-20-2014, 03:19 PM
Who is the second greatest player of all time?

Poll:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 16
Kobe Bryant: 3
Bill Russell: 2
Lebron James: 1
Wilt Chamberlain: 1
Shaquille O'Neal: 1






(Poll number tallied frequently, each poster can only have 1 vote)
(Obvious trolling votes is discredited)

Derivative
02-20-2014, 03:20 PM
My vote goes to Shaquille O'Neal

moe94
02-20-2014, 03:20 PM
KAJ

Mure
02-20-2014, 03:20 PM
Kaj.

KyleKong
02-20-2014, 03:21 PM
Cookies and Kareem.

Mass Debator
02-20-2014, 03:21 PM
KAJ

Demitri98
02-20-2014, 03:22 PM
http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/270453-2/Kareem+Abdul+Jabber+Sky+Hook+over+a+Sonics+player. jpg

russwest0
02-20-2014, 03:22 PM
KAJ

sejoon101
02-20-2014, 03:22 PM
Career or peak?

Peak, MJ since peak shaq is #1.

Kareem for career.

KirbyPls
02-20-2014, 03:22 PM
Kareem...easily.

AnaheimLakers24
02-20-2014, 03:22 PM
mj

ImKobe
02-20-2014, 03:23 PM
Kobe Bryant

LeGOAT
02-20-2014, 03:23 PM
Jordan

outbreak
02-20-2014, 03:23 PM
Mj or wilt depending on who you've put at 1

aboss4real24
02-20-2014, 03:24 PM
http://urbanmecca.net/news/wp-content/uploads/lebronkobejordan.jpg

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/tumblr_mgajx41Pid1qagf4qo1_500.gif

RoundMoundOfReb
02-20-2014, 03:25 PM
Bill Russell.

imdaman99
02-20-2014, 03:29 PM
Kobe Bryant

Only because OP is a fgt that is obsessed with him

BuffaloBill
02-20-2014, 03:32 PM
kobe bean bryant

Keno
02-20-2014, 03:34 PM
leBron raymone james

Pushxx
02-20-2014, 03:35 PM
KAJ

AnaheimLakers24
02-20-2014, 03:35 PM
kareem
mj
kobe
magic

doesnt matter after them

buddha
02-20-2014, 03:36 PM
kareem

b0bab0i
02-20-2014, 03:37 PM
Jordan
KAJ is #1

CeltsGarlic
02-20-2014, 03:37 PM
Mj or wilt depending on who you've put at 1
:rolleyes:

Solefade
02-20-2014, 03:38 PM
lol @ people mentioning kobe


i got KAJ

diamenz
02-20-2014, 03:39 PM
jabbar for me

Olacinco
02-20-2014, 03:40 PM
Prime T-Mac...

Not even trolling... U better put him on that poll list

moe94
02-20-2014, 03:41 PM
lol @ people mentioning kobe


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1171687/kgface_medium.gif

They're serious.

aboss4real24
02-20-2014, 03:41 PM
kobe isnt top 10

Crafty
02-20-2014, 03:43 PM
KAJ

Milbuck
02-20-2014, 03:44 PM
http://media.thehoopdoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/kareem-e1362544081710.jpg

pauk
02-20-2014, 03:46 PM
Bill Russell.

11 rings
11 fmvps
11 dpoys
5 mvps

fpliii
02-20-2014, 03:49 PM
Durant

jlip
02-20-2014, 03:54 PM
Bill Russell.

11 rings
11 fmvps
11 dpoys
5 mvps

Nah... Maybe 7-8 FMVPs if they were given before 1969. He would have clearly won at least 9 DPOYs back then.

I believe Kareem would have had between 2 and 4 DPOY awards also.

Uncle Drew
02-20-2014, 03:54 PM
Michael Jordan.

RoundMoundOfReb
02-20-2014, 03:56 PM
Bill Russell dominated his era like no other pro team sport athlete ever has and he has 2 votes

AnaheimLakers24
02-20-2014, 03:57 PM
Michael Jordan.
fakkit op isnt counting mj picks

IncarceratedBob
02-20-2014, 03:58 PM
MJ

RoundMoundOfReb
02-20-2014, 03:59 PM
Durant
Its all time not current.

aboss4real24
02-20-2014, 03:59 PM
Bill russ won 11 rings n a 8 team LG

Dude avgd 16 ppg

shot 43%

Overrated

Kobe>Bill russ

Black and White
02-20-2014, 03:59 PM
Mr SkyHook

JUDGE WITNESS
02-20-2014, 04:01 PM
michael jordan

pauk
02-20-2014, 04:01 PM
Nah... Maybe 7-8 FMVPs if they were given before 1969. He would have clearly won at least 9 DPOYs back then.

I believe Kareem would have had between 2 and 4 DPOY awards also.

Aight..

11 rings
8 fmvps
9 dpoys
5 mvps

Still is GOAT stuff by far.... :)

IncarceratedBob
02-20-2014, 04:02 PM
Kobe has a case here, not the best but definitely has a case. Dont be disrespectful

Keno
02-20-2014, 04:07 PM
Bill russ won 11 rings n a 8 team LG

Dude avgd 16 ppg

shot 43%

Overrated

Kobe>Bill russ

i agree on everything except for kobe > bill. they're both overrated. but i take anything bill did in the 60's with a grain of salt. 8 teams in the league, bill's being the most stacked. just imagine, a 6'9 'center' dominating this era. durant would win 12 rings in that era.

RoundMoundOfReb
02-20-2014, 04:07 PM
Kobe has a case here, not the best but definitely has a case. Dont be disrespectful
No. He really doesn't.

KyleKong
02-20-2014, 04:10 PM
Kobe has a case here, not the best but definitely has a case. Dont be disrespectful
http://i.imgur.com/hXGtYfh.gif

fpliii
02-20-2014, 04:13 PM
Its all time not current.
Oh I know. He's my pick though since the OP isn't counting MJ votes for some strange reason.

k0kakw0rld
02-20-2014, 04:14 PM
First of all, Chamberlain is the GOAT
2nd Jordan
3rd KAJ

RoundMoundOfReb
02-20-2014, 04:14 PM
Oh I know. He's my pick though since the OP isn't counting MJ votes for some strange reason.
You actually think Durant is the second best player ever?

Edit: greatest not best*

gts
02-20-2014, 04:16 PM
Jordan is the second greatest player of all time....

moe94
02-20-2014, 04:16 PM
Bill Russell dominated his era like no other pro team sport athlete ever has and he has 2 votes
Gretzky

fpliii
02-20-2014, 04:16 PM
You actually think Durant is the second best player ever?

Edit: greatest not best*
Nah, obviously trolling. But the OP lost credibility by ignoring MJ votes so it's a pointless thread.

IncarceratedBob
02-20-2014, 04:16 PM
1 kaj
2 jordan
3 durant

Derivative
02-20-2014, 04:17 PM
Nah, obviously trolling. But the OP lost credibility by ignoring MJ votes so it's a pointless thread.


kobe has a better case being second greatest of all time than MJ not being the GOAT

DonDadda59
02-20-2014, 04:17 PM
Kobe has a case here, not the best but definitely has a case. Dont be disrespectful

:kobe:

Take us through your reasoning for why the above nonsense is true. Make the best case you can.

RoundMoundOfReb
02-20-2014, 04:18 PM
Gretzky
Outliers had an absolutely stacked team. In fact they won after trading him.

moe94
02-20-2014, 04:19 PM
Outliers had an absolutely stacked team. In fact they won after trading him.

You're right, Russell's teams were never stacked.

:coleman:

kc16
02-20-2014, 04:20 PM
I'm going with Kareem.

RoundMoundOfReb
02-20-2014, 04:22 PM
You're right, Russell's teams were never stacked.

:coleman:
They were certainly good but they didn't do shit before Russell or after he retired. Youre right though. Gretzky was dominant probably has a good case. 9 mvps iirc.

Black and White
02-20-2014, 04:24 PM
Kobe has a case here, not the best but definitely has a case. Dont be disrespectful

:wtf:

salwan
02-20-2014, 04:38 PM
Russell :rockon:

Psileas
02-20-2014, 04:55 PM
As I suspected before I even opened the thread, the OP doesn't count Jordan votes (per OP, having Jordan at #2 = trolling...), so there's no point in voting.

zoom17
02-20-2014, 05:04 PM
Kareem

Shade8780
02-20-2014, 05:13 PM
Big Bill. Greatest champion of all time :bowdown:

oarabbus
02-20-2014, 05:27 PM
1 kaj
2 jordan
3 durant


Why are you such a bad poster?

BuffaloBill
02-20-2014, 05:57 PM
Kobe bryant

Marchesk
02-20-2014, 06:11 PM
They were certainly good but they didn't do shit before Russell or after he retired. Youre right though. Gretzky was dominant probably has a good case. 9 mvps iirc.

Hondo did win 2 titles post Russell. That being said, Russell has a case. Still I'll vote Wilt just because KAJ is running away with this. If Wilt had played as long as Kareem, it wouldn't be a question.

BoutPractice
02-20-2014, 06:14 PM
Russell.

longhornfan1234
02-20-2014, 06:15 PM
Wilt

Cold soul
02-20-2014, 06:17 PM
Kareem.

secund2nun
02-20-2014, 06:18 PM
Evan Turner

BIZARRO
02-20-2014, 06:18 PM
Magic. :pimp:

The-Legend-24
02-20-2014, 06:19 PM
Kobe

livinglegend
02-20-2014, 06:19 PM
1. Russell
2. KAJ
3. Jordan

SamuraiSWISH
02-20-2014, 08:17 PM
LeBron.

Marlo_Stanfield
02-20-2014, 08:20 PM
1.Lebron
2.Wilt
3rd/Magic/MJ
4.Kareem
:coleman:

MP.Trey
02-20-2014, 08:21 PM
Bill Russell.

Bernie Nips
02-20-2014, 08:21 PM
Bird

Uncle Drew
02-20-2014, 08:21 PM
But the OP lost credibility by ignoring MJ votes so it's a pointless thread.
He really meant that? Wow. Weak. Guess having KAJ as #1 is a crime then.

Round Mound
02-20-2014, 09:03 PM
Wilt and Peak Wise The GOAT

Prometheus
02-20-2014, 09:15 PM
I think Bill Russell is BY FAR the most overrated basketball player in history. I am 100% not trolling in any way; this is what I truly believe. He was a great player for sure, but I honestly wouldn't even rank him in my top 15 if I was to create such a list. I think he played the perfect role on the most dominant franchise in pro sports history, and is extremely lucky that he and the Dipper were not in opposite roles. In today's league, I believe he would be a moderate upgrade from peak Ben Wallace.

The only reason I decided to post this mini-rant is because in summary, I want to put my opinion out there that Wilt was vastly, vastly superior as a basketball player to Bill Russell. Wilt Chamberlain is my pick not just for the #2 player of all time, but that I believe the #1 spot is a toss-up between Jordan and Wilt.