How science has failed humanity ..

[IamRAMBO24]

1. The focus on observation as an ideology.

This is just a stupid way of thinking. There is a part of you that controls you and is more powerful than the conscious mind: impulses. While you are too busy observing your meager existence, you are ignoring the strongest force within your body. You are too focus on what you see and you fail to see what really drives you. This failure of ideology is destoying humanity since society is letting the sex drive flow free, the need for superficial consumerism, and the need to indulge in food that will make them fat and kill them eventually. It's all f*cking bullsh*t. You don't need to be a pornstar f*ckin 5 girls at one time; you don't need 10 million dollars when owning a house, driving a decent car, and putting food on the table is enough to have a satisfying life, and above all you don't need to indulge in food when you should only eat when you are hungry.

2. Technology is repression.

As technology progresses, the people with the power will have more ammunition in weapons and computers to control the population and take away your freedoms. I'm sure you are perfectly content with your useless Iphones and Xbox kinects, but if you look at the bigger picture, how much are you giving up for these technological advances? You are less social, getting fatter, becoming nerdier, and pretty much your entire existence is now a complete wash because you no longer know how to act like a normal human being. But "OMGZ LOOKIE I CAN JERK TO INTERNET PORN WHILE ON THE SH*TTER!" Lame.

3. Your science is killing you.

All this bullsh*t about how science is advancing medicine is a hogwash. First you f*ck up the food people eat by adding chemicals n sh*t, then you created new medicines to counter the problem. How is this an advancement in health? If you created the diseases, how can you lay claim to improving health by finding some lame medicine that will create a hundred new symptoms in the body you f*cked up in the first place? To improve health, you can't just patch up sh*t and then make people sicker with your medicines - you have to ACTUALLY *GASP OMGZ NEW CONCEPT* improve the overall health of the body. And you know what, this whole "OMGZ WE ARE LIVING LONGER" is another hogwash: the rich are living longer. The poor are dying faster. If you don't have a million dollars, then most likely you will be a victim of all the crap they are putting in your food. Get it right dumbsh*ts.

[russwest0]

There's being a moron and then there's OP... :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[KingBeasley08]

You say that technology keeps you from being a normal human? Just because you lack social skills and can't talk to attractive women doesn't mean the rest of us have that problem. Using science as an excuse, my lawd :facepalm

[IamRAMBO24]

You say that technology keeps you from being a normal human? Just because you lack social skills and can't talk to attractive women doesn't mean the rest of us have that problem. Using science as an excuse, my lawd :facepalm

You nerds can rationalize all you want, but it is pretty much a fact your generation has absolutely no social skills.

Look at your elders and learn from them. We knew how to make friends and didn't rely on the computer to make us socially relevant.

[Raymone]

You're like Ted Kaczynski without the intelligence, education, looks, sociability or capacity to actually do anything significant in the grand scheme of things; good or bad.

You'll contribute nothing and only continue to consume and enjoy the fruits of scientific minds unfathomably greater than yours.

[IamRAMBO24]

You're like Ted Kaczynski without the intelligence, education, looks, sociability or capacity to actually do anything significant in the grand scheme of things; good or bad.

You'll contribute nothing and only continue to consume and enjoy the fruits of scientific minds unfathomably greater than yours.

Your a troll. Period. Come back when you can contribute to a proper discussion.

[IamRAMBO24]

You're like Ted Kaczynski without the intelligence, education, looks, sociability or capacity to actually do anything significant in the grand scheme of things; good or bad.

You'll contribute nothing and only continue to consume and enjoy the fruits of scientific minds unfathomably greater than yours.

Ted Kaczynski? You're a f*ckin moron.

Can you even formulate an intelligent reply? Real talk. I have not once seen a rebuttal from you; not an ounce of intellectual thought; all you do is troll the f*ck out of people.

Seriously, man up and give me an intelligent response. Just one response. Please. I'm begging you.

[Raymone]

What can you possibly do for a living, Rambo?

[IamRAMBO24]

What can you possibly do for a living, Rambo?

See what I mean?

That's pure trolling. At least I can back up what I say along with the insults, but let's just admit you are too f*ckin stupid to counter ANYTHING.

I don't care if you hate on me; all I'm asking is an intelligent rebuttal. Even a 3rd grader can say something. Are you really this lost to NOT even take me on?

P.S.

Prediction: Ramone will just troll again without a proper reply.

[IamRAMBO24]

C'mon Ramone, dig in that small brain of your's and give me something. Thanks.

[HarryCallahan]

2. Technology is repression.

As technology progresses, the people with the power will have more ammunition in weapons and computers to control the population and take away your freedoms. I'm sure you are perfectly content with your useless Iphones and Xbox kinects, but if you look at the bigger picture, how much are you giving up for these technological advances? You are less social, getting fatter, becoming nerdier, and pretty much your entire existence is now a complete wash because you no longer know how to act like a normal human being. But "OMGZ LOOKIE I CAN JERK TO INTERNET PORN WHILE ON THE SH*TTER!" Lame.



Didn't you make this thread:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=323082

Sounds like you give plenty of fvcks about technology.

[Raymone]

I do like how you always need to quote the same post twice in a row because you haven't the intelligence to get all of your incongruent thoughts out in one attempt. Maybe if you bold more random words.

[IamRAMBO24]

I do like how you always need to quote the same post twice in a row because you haven't the intelligence to get all of your incongruent thoughts out in one attempt. Maybe if you bold more random words.

Prediction correct.

I don't care if you hate on me, all I'm asking is for you to challenge me and prove to me I am wrong. This way I can improve myself.

Guys like gigantes, myth, niko, oarubus, shliver, etc. have the alpha mentality to at least take me on; although we don't always agree, I respect the fact they are arguing with a sense of integrity.

You're just a troll and a cancer to this forum.

If you are really just stupid, all you have to do is google your sh*t like Kevnyc and cite some other source as your voice - this way you'll at least sound intelligent amongst the dumber crowde around here.

[russwest0]

You're like Ted Kaczynski without the intelligence, education, looks, sociability or capacity to actually do anything significant in the grand scheme of things; good or bad.

You'll contribute nothing and only continue to consume and enjoy the fruits of scientific minds unfathomably greater than yours.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

tru

[IamRAMBO24]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

tru

:facepalm

You're as bad as Ramone; no wonder why the both of you are consider as the biggest trolls in here.

[KingBeasley08]

You nerds can rationalize all you want, but it is pretty much a fact your generation has absolutely no social skills.

Look at your elders and learn from them. We knew how to make friends and didn't rely on the computer to make us socially relevant.
Coming from the guy who admits to not being able to socialize with co-workers and attractive females? N*gga, you don't have any friends. Get outta here :oldlol:

[IamRAMBO24]

Didn't you make this thread:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=323082

Sounds like you give plenty of fvcks about technology.

:applause:

Thanks Harry, you found a contradiction.

Nice.

But still, my argument was that we were losing essential freedoms through the advancement of technology so although it has made our lives better in certain sectors, it has also made our lives worse due to the lost in freedom.

[IamRAMBO24]

Coming from the guy who admits to not being able to socialize with co-workers and attractive females? N*gga, you don't have any friends. Get outta here :oldlol:


Work is work. There is no need for socialization. You do your job and you get paid.

Your real friends are outside of work. You nerds are desperate for social interactions in the work environment and online because you can't make any real friends in rl.

[nathanjizzle]

1. The focus on observation as an ideology.

This is just a stupid way of thinking. There is a part of you that controls you and is more powerful than the conscious mind: impulses. While you are too busy observing your meager existence, you are ignoring the strongest force within your body. You are too focus on what you see and you fail to see what really drives you. This failure of ideology is destoying humanity since society is letting the sex drive flow free, the need for superficial consumerism, and the need to indulge in food that will make them fat and kill them eventually. It's all f*cking bullsh*t. You don't need to be a pornstar f*ckin 5 girls at one time; you don't need 10 million dollars when owning a house, driving a decent car, and putting food on the table is enough to have a satisfying life, and above all you don't need to indulge in food when you should only eat when you are hungry.

2. Technology is repression.

As technology progresses, the people with the power will have more ammunition in weapons and computers to control the population and take away your freedoms. I'm sure you are perfectly content with your useless Iphones and Xbox kinects, but if you look at the bigger picture, how much are you giving up for these technological advances? You are less social, getting fatter, becoming nerdier, and pretty much your entire existence is now a complete wash because you no longer know how to act like a normal human being. But "OMGZ LOOKIE I CAN JERK TO INTERNET PORN WHILE ON THE SH*TTER!" Lame.

3. Your science is killing you.

All this bullsh*t about how science is advancing medicine is a hogwash. First you f*ck up the food people eat by adding chemicals n sh*t, then you created new medicines to counter the problem. How is this an advancement in health? If you created the diseases, how can you lay claim to improving health by finding some lame medicine that will create a hundred new symptoms in the body you f*cked up in the first place? To improve health, you can't just patch up sh*t and then make people sicker with your medicines - you have to ACTUALLY *GASP OMGZ NEW CONCEPT* improve the overall health of the body. And you know what, this whole "OMGZ WE ARE LIVING LONGER" is another hogwash: the rich are living longer. The poor are dying faster. If you don't have a million dollars, then most likely you will be a victim of all the crap they are putting in your food. Get it right dumbsh*ts.


3. our science isnt "killing us". You are sensationalizing the negatives. would it be better if we didnt use science to farm crops and livestock? Do you know that observing a plant that it needs sunlight, water, how it reacts to conditions, is science right? If humans didnt initially "observe" the leafs turning towards the sun then how would we know that it needs sunlight? Hydroponics, cloning, cropping, are all methods discovered by science that yield more harvest. so without science we could'nt grow crops and feed people, thats what you are suggesting, that we dont grow crops and feed people. How would that possibly be better off than where we are now?

You are assuming people dont know what eating healthy is. Well everyone knows what eating healthy is, many choose not to do it. their is no distinction between money being a factor in living longer. People are poor because they arnt smart enough. They arnt smart enough to eat healthy, not smart enough to stop drinking, not smart enough to exercise, wasnt smart enough to not pick up the crack needle, or to have safe sex at 14. Why would you call anyone "dumbshits" your ideals aren't new, they are actually simple.

2. More sensationalizing. Technology actually empowers the people at the bottom with access to all information, knowledge and a means of communication to one another (im talking about the computer/ internet, the tool that youre using to have a voice and yet you are devaluing it). Anyone with internet has access to all information, you can learn computer programing if you want, or learn how to grow crops hydroponically, all from a simple web search. These are skills you can use to start you're own business that could turn into a huge company.

3. more sensationalizing. humans are conscious, especially of their impulses. Thats why we dont go around raping people when we are horny because we are conscious that our impulses can have a negative impact.
You are generalizing people with your sensationalism, most people would agree, That we dont need many sex partners. and a single person can live off of 15k a year. And in reality, most people are that way.:roll:


your topics are really simp, and barely envigorating. Debating you is not even debating, its more like "good god i have to knock some reality and rational into this idiot again". Thats why people dont debate you, there is no debate.

[KobesFinger]

OP is Jaden Smith

[eriX]

OP is Jaden Smith

what if he really is jaden smith... :biggums:

[$LakerGold]

Your a troll. Period. Come back when you can contribute to a proper discussion.
You're*

[CeltsGarlic]

OP is a stupid troll.

people mentioned that they hate how he bolds some irrelevant parts. He does in non stop since then.

People complained about this retarded topic. Mfer starts one every week.

People say stahp posting. Dude goes on a spree.

People say "omg rambo go kill yo self". He still alive.

this goes on and on

[Bandito]

Your a troll. Period. Come back when you can contribute to a proper discussion.
The grand philosopher of our generation can't spell:applause:

[I<3NBA]

how parents have failed humanity = OP

[mr.big35]

rambo is spewing nonsense again

[MadeFromDust]

1. The focus on observation as an ideology.

This is just a stupid way of thinking. There is a part of you that controls you and is more powerful than the conscious mind: impulses. While you are too busy observing your meager existence, you are ignoring the strongest force within your body. You are too focus on what you see and you fail to see what really drives you. This failure of ideology is destoying humanity since society is letting the sex drive flow free, the need for superficial consumerism, and the need to indulge in food that will make them fat and kill them eventually. It's all f*cking bullsh*t. You don't need to be a pornstar f*ckin 5 girls at one time; you don't need 10 million dollars when owning a house, driving a decent car, and putting food on the table is enough to have a satisfying life, and above all you don't need to indulge in food when you should only eat when you are hungry.

2. Technology is repression.

As technology progresses, the people with the power will have more ammunition in weapons and computers to control the population and take away your freedoms. I'm sure you are perfectly content with your useless Iphones and Xbox kinects, but if you look at the bigger picture, how much are you giving up for these technological advances? You are less social, getting fatter, becoming nerdier, and pretty much your entire existence is now a complete wash because you no longer know how to act like a normal human being. But "OMGZ LOOKIE I CAN JERK TO INTERNET PORN WHILE ON THE SH*TTER!" Lame.

3. Your science is killing you.

All this bullsh*t about how science is advancing medicine is a hogwash. First you f*ck up the food people eat by adding chemicals n sh*t, then you created new medicines to counter the problem. How is this an advancement in health? If you created the diseases, how can you lay claim to improving health by finding some lame medicine that will create a hundred new symptoms in the body you f*cked up in the first place? To improve health, you can't just patch up sh*t and then make people sicker with your medicines - you have to ACTUALLY *GASP OMGZ NEW CONCEPT* improve the overall health of the body. And you know what, this whole "OMGZ WE ARE LIVING LONGER" is another hogwash: the rich are living longer. The poor are dying faster. If you don't have a million dollars, then most likely you will be a victim of all the crap they are putting in your food. Get it right dumbsh*ts.


Hmmmmmm all good points and thought-provoking. Almost as if isn't you who originated them :confusedshrug:

[gts]

That's a good use of science
Thank you science for letting be page break the thread.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/165/7/0/ten_ton_troll_machine_by_obershutzewienman-d53hhon.jpg

[Le Shaqtus]

You say that technology keeps you from being a normal human? Just because you lack social skills and can't talk to attractive women doesn't mean the rest of us have that problem. Using science as an excuse, my lawd :facepalm

This, the rest of us are relatively normal.

[JUDGE WITNESS]

niqqa talking about this generation lacking social skills

1. you consistently look to argue with members on a basketball message board about nothing that is basketball related. you know other forums exist right? or did science inhibit your ability to figure out such?

2. you signed up to a dating website because you lack the social skills and very likely the appearance as well to attract any females so you ended up with a fat b1tch who ***** reeked and took that down because that was possibly the only willing sex partner you've had for years

to top it all off you swear that youre so much smarter than everybody else here but everything youve said and done points to the exact opposite. you are a retard

[BGriffin's Dad]

You're like Ted Kaczynski without the intelligence, education, looks, sociability or capacity to actually do anything significant in the grand scheme of things; good or bad.

You'll contribute nothing and only continue to consume and enjoy the fruits of scientific minds unfathomably greater than yours.

Coming from the guy who admits to not being able to socialize with co-workers and attractive females? N*gga, you don't have any friends. Get outta here :oldlol:

niqqa talking about this generation lacking social skills

1. you consistently look to argue with members on a basketball message board about nothing that is basketball related. you know other forums exist right? or did science inhibit your ability to figure out such?

2. you signed up to a dating website because you lack the social skills and very likely the appearance as well to attract any females so you ended up with a fat b1tch who ***** reeked and took that down because that was possibly the only willing sex partner you've had for years

to top it all off you swear that youre so much smarter than everybody else here but everything youve said and done points to the exact opposite. you are a retard

ether

[ForeverHeat]

Yall are some real haters. The guy is just putting across his opinion and 90% of you are just hating. If you think hes wrong why dont you just give some intelligent reasons why. No need for grown ass men to try "page break" threads because they disagree with the comments. Pathetic.

[Jailblazers7]

You nerds can rationalize all you want, but it is pretty much a fact your generation has absolutely no social skills.

Look at your elders and learn from them. We knew how to make friends and didn't rely on the computer to make us socially relevant.

http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/files/2013/11/wpid-Photo-Nov-29-2013-1045-PM.jpg

[MavsSuperFan]

Rambo
Just because an idea is unique and you thought of it yourself, doesnt make it intelligent.
Also become educated and being able to retain that education is a good thing.

[IamRAMBO24]

Rambo
Just because an idea is unique and you thought of it yourself, doesnt make it intelligent.
Also become educated and being able to retain that education is a good thing.

I really don't know why I have to keep on explaining myself on this:

Although I have an education (BS degree to be exact), I'm glad I don't have an educated mind.

Education doesn't exercise creativity; it doesn't want you to think on your own, so I find it as a compliment you are trying to insult me by saying I need an educated mind. That is exactly what I don't want to strive for.

[IamRAMBO24]

Yall are some real haters. The guy is just putting across his opinion and 90% of you are just hating. If you think hes wrong why dont you just give some intelligent reasons why. No need for grown ass men to try "page break" threads because they disagree with the comments. Pathetic.

Thanks bro, at least someone smart around here understands my true intent.

What these trolls don't understand is I only post to better myself as a person; I might act like I know it all, but I only do this because I'm constantly being attack by trolls telling me I don't know sh*t when the premises I set forth are legit and should be think about a bit deeper.


All they have to do is engage and I'll back it all up with supporting evidences, but as is, they're just trolling because they are afraid to engage.

[IamRAMBO24]

3. our science isnt "killing us". You are sensationalizing the negatives. would it be better if we didnt use science to farm crops and livestock? Do you know that observing a plant that it needs sunlight, water, how it reacts to conditions, is science right? If humans didnt initially "observe" the leafs turning towards the sun then how would we know that it needs sunlight? Hydroponics, cloning, cropping, are all methods discovered by science that yield more harvest. so without science we could'nt grow crops and feed people, thats what you are suggesting, that we dont grow crops and feed people. How would that possibly be better off than where we are now?

You are assuming people dont know what eating healthy is. Well everyone knows what eating healthy is, many choose not to do it. their is no distinction between money being a factor in living longer. People are poor because they arnt smart enough. They arnt smart enough to eat healthy, not smart enough to stop drinking, not smart enough to exercise, wasnt smart enough to not pick up the crack needle, or to have safe sex at 14. Why would you call anyone "dumbshits" your ideals aren't new, they are actually simple.

2. More sensationalizing. Technology actually empowers the people at the bottom with access to all information, knowledge and a means of communication to one another (im talking about the computer/ internet, the tool that youre using to have a voice and yet you are devaluing it). Anyone with internet has access to all information, you can learn computer programing if you want, or learn how to grow crops hydroponically, all from a simple web search. These are skills you can use to start you're own business that could turn into a huge company.

3. more sensationalizing. humans are conscious, especially of their impulses. Thats why we dont go around raping people when we are horny because we are conscious that our impulses can have a negative impact.
You are generalizing people with your sensationalism, most people would agree, That we dont need many sex partners. and a single person can live off of 15k a year. And in reality, most people are that way.:roll:


your topics are really simp, and barely envigorating. Debating you is not even debating, its more like "good god i have to knock some reality and rational into this idiot again". Thats why people dont debate you, there is no debate.

1. It is not sensalization. It is a fact the chemicals we put in the foods we are eating is killing us. It is a fact that the medicines we take are patching up the symptoms from these foods. Diabetes, obesity, heart disease, etc. are surpassing smoking and accidents as the leading killers in America. We know very little about these chemicals, and it will prob take another 50 years until we realize the total repercussions. We're just at the tip of the iceberg and already we are seeing a death rate that has already beaten smoking. I mean seriously, how can you even begin to support the science that goes behind these chemicals when so many people are dying from it?

[IamRAMBO24]

2. Access to information and playing flappy bird on your stupid Iphones don't mean sh*t when the same technology is being used to take away your freedoms.

[IamRAMBO24]

3. No, you are not conscious of your impulses: this is why the media is fiddling you like a puppet; this is why the propaganda has tooled you into consumerism using sex; and this is absolutely why you are so willing to give up your freedoms out of fear.

Sigmund Freud.

Study him.

There is a deliberate attempt at controlling your impulses because the smarter guys know you're too busy thinking like a realist to realize how you're being played.

[Riley Martin]

It is a fact the chemicals we put in the foods we are eating is killing us. It is a fact that the medicines we take are patching up the symptoms from these foods. Diabetes, obesity, heart disease, etc. are surpassing smoking and accidents as the leading killers in America.

You're saying chemicals being placed into food is the leading cause of diabetes, obesity and heart disease? Not the food itself or quantity of food being routinely ingested or the unhealthy, inactive lifestyles of the people eating this food, but chemicals put in the food? Not high LDL cholesterol, high blood pressure or genetic predisposition. What sort of chemicals, exactly? I mean if we're talking about food additives like high fructose corn syrup or monosodium glutamate, then I say we can hardly blame science for the ailments that result from the overconsumption of these types of food. You wouldn't blame sugarcane for giving you type 2 diabetes by producing such delicious sugar when you're the one who chose to eat it. Again and again.

The masses might not know the names of these substances, but they know that potato chips and cheeseburgers aren't very healthy yet they continue to overindulge. And then you want to blame science?

[Trentknicks]

What's missing in your life op?

Seriously, you start these topics clearly to bait people and pass off your opinion as fact. Trying to sound intelligent over an internet board isn't impressing anyone. Every time someone gives you a credible answer or even anything that doesn't completely align with your clearly deluded and warped views, your scream, bitch, make up shit, or your pet favourite, claiming they don't understand your view and change the definition of your argument slightly to skewer it in your favour.

You strike me as the kind of person that would get kicked out of a maths major and then write some bullshit essay about how maths isn't even relevant.

If your half as old and intelligent as your poorly trying to make out, you'd realise your life's come down to failing to impress random users on an internet forum. Get offline and do something worthwhile with your life.

Face your reality.

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[IamRAMBO24]

You're saying chemicals being placed into food is the leading cause of diabetes, obesity and heart disease? Not the food itself or quantity of food being routinely ingested or the unhealthy, inactive lifestyles of the people eating this food, but chemicals put in the food? Not high LDL cholesterol, high blood pressure or genetic predisposition. What sort of chemicals, exactly? I mean if we're talking about food additives like high fructose corn syrup or monosodium glutamate, then I say we can hardly blame science for the ailments that result from the overconsumption of these types of food. You wouldn't blame sugarcane for giving you type 2 diabetes by producing such delicious sugar when you're the one who chose to eat it. Again and again.

The masses might not know the names of these substances, but they know that potato chips and cheeseburgers aren't very healthy yet they continue to overindulge. And then you want to blame science?

Sure people have died from heart disease, obesity, diabetes, etc. in the past but it was never a pandemic.

Like I said, we know very little about these chemicals and their effect on the body, so you're going to have to give it another 50 years until we know their full repercussions.

Tobacco companies used the same line of PR when they said it is all about personal responsibility. It's the same thing as saying a rape victim should not be dressing sexy if she didn't want to get rape; it's the same thing as saying a murder victim should be carrying a firearm or not be in the place at the time if he didn't want to get killed.

People gotta eat; you can't blame em for eating sh*t that's nothing more than poison without their knowledge. I mean real talk, how many people actually know what these chemicals are doing to their body? They don't. It's hidden and we won't know it's full effect until some time.

[JohnFreeman]

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ron-swanson-computer-throw-out-parks-and-rec.gif

[shlver]

How science and its methods are used by capitalistic industries and governmental bodies and whether you believe it is wrong or not does not detract from science as a discipline. Science is a completely neutral discipline. If you studied any science, then you would understand the application of science(for good or bad) is completely separate from its principle. You should also provide proof of your claimed "facts" as well as clarification of buzzwords like "chemicals." People won't engage in debate if you do not put in the effort to have an honest one.

[Spell&Grammer]

I'm constantly being attack by trolls telling me I don't know sh*t when the premises I set forth are legit and should be think about a bit deeper.


I'm constantly being attack by trolls telling me I don't now sh*t when the premises I set forth are legit and should be think about a bit deeper.

Dat educated mind doe.




Spell&Grammer

[Spell&Grammer]

It's the same thing as saying a rape victim should not be dressing sexy if she didn't want to get rape

Its the same thing as saying a rape victim should not be dressing sexy if she didn't want to get rape




Spell&Grammer

[JohnFreeman]

http://i.4cdn.org/b/src/1393159610307.jpg

[mr.big35]

you are science to post mesages on a computer. technology is a great thing rambo

[Bandito]

Without science there is no Ish to post into....

[$LakerGold]

No one will ever win. It's a useless debate/discussion. Whisper it to my dog, please.

[IamRAMBO24]

Without science there is no Ish to post into....

You have to look at the bigger picture with these technological advances. In the end, we are going to have less freedom because everything is going to be monitored; wars are going to be deadlier as weapons advance; medicine hasn't shown it really cures but only patches up the complications from the chemicals put in our foods. We are less social, less compassionate, and science does not have answers for ethics and morality ...

The negatives far outweigh the positives.

[kentatm]

You nerds can rationalize all you want, but it is pretty much a fact your generation has absolutely no social skills.

Look at your elders and learn from them. We knew how to make friends and didn't rely on the computer to make us socially relevant.

:roll:

Our elders are the ones who ****ed everything up in the first place!

[IamRAMBO24]

How science and its methods are used by capitalistic industries and governmental bodies and whether you believe it is wrong or not does not detract from science as a discipline. Science is a completely neutral discipline. If you studied any science, then you would understand the application of science(for good or bad) is completely separate from its principle. You should also provide proof of your claimed "facts" as well as clarification of buzzwords like "chemicals." People won't engage in debate if you do not put in the effort to have an honest one.

You're right, science is a discipline. That's all it is. It becomes a problem when it becomes an ideology. In fact, some people even created a religion to justify this ideology (agnosticism).

Why? It doesn't deal with human elements of ethics and creativity. What you see is already known, what you can't see can only be reach with imaginiation and reason, and it becomes dangerous when there are no ethical boundary put on its capabilities.

It goes back to my exercise thread where I suggested in order to change your body, you have to use your creativity to forge a mindset that alters the body. The scientists said I was wrong and that you should just exercise and diet.

An analogy I can use is someone building a house; the science is the nail, math, and hammer, but for him to even begin to build the house, he will need a blueprint.