View Full Version : HOFers And Coaches Believe Lebron IS Better Than Jordan
mehyaM24
02-23-2014, 12:58 PM
Oscar Robertson Says Lebron James Better Than Michael Jordan (http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2010/10/oscar-robinson-says-lebron-james-better-than-michael-jordan/)
Jim Boheim thinks Lebron is better (http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/08/jim-boeheim-thinks-lebron-james-could-be-better-than-michael-jordan/)
Pat Riley says Lebron is the best of them ALL (http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/05/06/riley-lebron-the-best-of-them-all/)
and the real kicker...
Scottie freaking Pippen thinks Lebron would have kicked MJ's ass in the 90s (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/20/alonzo-mourning-says-scottie-pippen-says-lebron-would-kick-jordans-ass/)
Alonzo Mourning agrees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fpOJr52iLnY)
...you hear that Jordan mythologists? his own PEERS disagree with you. hell even his sidekick does :oldlol:
AnaheimLakers24
02-23-2014, 01:00 PM
scottie mad
ArbitraryWater
02-23-2014, 01:00 PM
shaqpop :bowdown:
:applause:
NuggetsFan
02-23-2014, 01:00 PM
You can do that with alot of great players. People on record saying they thought Kobe was better than Jordan. Heck as great as Jordan was we've seen him evaluate talent. Just because your great at something personally doesn't mean your great at judging other people do it.
AnaheimLakers24
02-23-2014, 01:01 PM
also op is a fgt
Kblaze8855
02-23-2014, 01:01 PM
Topics like this just cant go anywhere. have you any idea how many hundreds of quotes can be posted from HOF players, coaches, and so on saying Jordan is the greatest ever? So what is the point?
A quote off?
Im Still Ballin
02-23-2014, 01:02 PM
If Scottie Pippen thinks so, then who the heck are any of us ISH posters to disagree with him. Dude knows more about Michael and Lebron than all of us combined.
ArbitraryWater
02-23-2014, 01:02 PM
You can do that with alot of great players. People on record saying they thought Kobe was better than Jordan. Heck as great as Jordan was we've seen him evaluate talent. Just because your great at something personally doesn't mean your great at judging other people do it.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.284568.1314354183!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_200/amd-mark-jackson-jpg.jpg
mehyaM24
02-23-2014, 01:05 PM
If Scottie Pippen thinks so, then who the heck are any of us ISH posters to disagree with him. Dude knows more about Michael and Lebron than all of us combined.
exactly.
in before someone say he has an agenda. what agenda? that lebron-led teams would beat his bulls? :oldlol:
Milbuck
02-23-2014, 01:09 PM
You do understand that for every person who thinks Lebron is better than MJ, there are hundreds who think the exact opposite, right?
mehyaM24
02-23-2014, 01:09 PM
Topics like this just cant go anywhere. have you any idea how many hundreds of quotes can be posted from HOF players, coaches, and so on saying Jordan is the greatest ever? So what is the point?
A quote off?
its interesting to hear people who coached or played with and against jordan, supposedly "THE GOAT and its not even close", claim somebody from todays "pussified era" is BETTER. and not only better, but would have kicked the mythical hero's ass. :bowdown:
Fudge
02-23-2014, 01:11 PM
OP :oldlol:
Bandito
02-23-2014, 01:14 PM
Well Shawn Marion kicked Lebron's arse in the 2011 Finals and nobody is saying he's better than MJ :confusedshrug:
tragicbronson
02-23-2014, 01:18 PM
You do understand that for every person who thinks Lebron is better than MJ, there are hundreds who think the exact opposite, right?
http://sarahwaurechen.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/whats-your-point.jpg
mehyaM24
02-23-2014, 01:27 PM
another gem...this time from Phil Jackson:
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CelticBaller
02-23-2014, 01:29 PM
http://sarahwaurechen.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/whats-your-point.jpg
that opinions are baseless, idiot
Fudge
02-23-2014, 01:29 PM
http://sarahwaurechen.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/whats-your-point.jpg
6 HOF's/Coaches opinions out of possibly...HUNDREDS? Hell, even thousands? Idk. :confusedshrug:
AnaheimLakers24
02-23-2014, 01:29 PM
found a good gem
"jordan is better than bran" - anaheimlakers24
OhNoTimNoSho
02-23-2014, 01:30 PM
So what? Everyone knows they're wrong
ArbitraryWater
02-23-2014, 01:32 PM
http://sarahwaurechen.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/whats-your-point.jpg
worst point to post that.. dude made a legit point
tragicbronson
02-23-2014, 01:34 PM
that opinions are baseless, idiot
U sound mad. So for example Galileo Galilei thought one but since everybody else didn't agree he was wrong. Hm, that theory is actually really advanced
sportjames23
02-23-2014, 01:37 PM
You do understand that for every person who thinks Lebron is better than MJ, there are hundreds who think the exact opposite, right?
Lebrontites love to ignore that fact.
Magic and Bird say MJ is the greatest, and Magic and Bird >>>>>>>>>>>>all them other fakkits OP posted. Scottie stay salty (and flip flops on this) and Oscar's bitter old ass always been jealous of MJ.
Lebron was one Ray Allen three away from being 1-3 in the Finals. I don't wanna hear shit from anyone about that bitch nikka being anywhere close to MJ.
Marlo_Stanfield
02-23-2014, 01:46 PM
You forgot to add Phil Jackson, MJs freaking coach who always praised him and made sure he says how much better MJ is than Kobe, say LeBron is better.
Yes Jordan stans Phil JAckson himself said LeBron is better.
Stay mad:coleman:
CelticBaller
02-23-2014, 01:46 PM
U sound mad. So for example Galileo Galilei thought one but since everybody else didn't agree he was wrong. Hm, that theory is actually really advanced
Yeah, compare astronomy backed up with proof and facts with a basketball opinion
lol you're an idiot
tragicbronson
02-23-2014, 01:50 PM
Yeah, compare astronomy backed up with proof and facts with a basketball opinion
lol you're an idiot
When you compare basketball players you oftren talk about facts such as fg% ppg etc. Give me one thread or comparison on these forums or anywhere else without pure facts such as i mentioned earlier.
wakencdukest
02-23-2014, 02:18 PM
Is he good? Can the heat get him?
IMObjective
02-23-2014, 02:28 PM
You forgot to add Phil Jackson, MJs freaking coach who always praised him and made sure he says how much better MJ is than Kobe, say LeBron is better.
Yes Jordan stans Phil JAckson himself said LeBron is better.
Stay mad:coleman:
Are you referring to the quote posted above? Because it doesn't sound like that's what he's saying. He's basically saying he COULD, maybe, but we'll have to wait and see, typical vague talk to the media talk.
TheMan
02-23-2014, 02:31 PM
If Scottie Pippen thinks so, then who the heck are any of us ISH posters to disagree with him. Dude knows more about Michael and Lebron than all of us combined.
:no: Scottie went bankrupt after all those millions he made, I love the guy but maybe not the sharpest knife, I certainly wouldn't want him evaluating talent for my organization...OTOH, Jerry West, legendary basketball genius, architect of some of the greatest teams in NBA history, has called MJ the best he's ever seen and he saw prime KAJ, Bill, Wilt, Magic, Bird etc.
What Jerry West thinks >>> what Scottie Pippen and ISH thinks combined:applause:
TheMan
02-23-2014, 02:33 PM
You forgot to add Phil Jackson, MJs freaking coach who always praised him and made sure he says how much better MJ is than Kobe, say LeBron is better.
Yes Jordan stans Phil JAckson himself said LeBron is better.
Stay mad:coleman:
Link? I think you lying, bruh.
TheCorporation
02-23-2014, 03:06 PM
You can do that with alot of great players. People on record saying they thought Kobe was better than Jordan. Heck as great as Jordan was we've seen him evaluate talent. Just because your great at something personally doesn't mean your great at judging other people do it.
Who the hell ever said that so that I know to discredit anything else they ever say?
Brokenbeat
02-23-2014, 03:08 PM
Is he good? Can the heat get him?
Lol, HEAT fans in a nutshell.
"Montell Jordan for the min?!"
Kblaze8855
02-23-2014, 03:10 PM
Pippen, and Oscar see themselves in LeBron. Both good at all, master of none, beta, stat stuffers.
Thats almost as bad as the first post.
K Xerxes
02-23-2014, 03:12 PM
There is absolutely NO reason to say Kobe is better than Jordan. He is essentially a worse version of Jordan in every aspect (skillset and accolades) except 3 point shooting. No amount of excuses can overcome that.
With LeBron you can at least say that because he's a different player, he's a better playmaker and rebounder. But you can do that with any all time great big or Magic or Bird or whoever. Not that there's necessarily a great case, but they have different qualities. There's really nothing for Kobe because they're similar types of players.
TheCorporation
02-23-2014, 03:19 PM
There is absolutely NO reason to say Kobe is better than Jordan. He is essentially a worse version of Jordan in every aspect (skillset and accolades) except 3 point shooting. No amount of excuses can overcome that.
With LeBron you can at least say that because he's a different player, he's a better playmaker and rebounder. But you can do that with any all time great big or Magic or Bird or whoever. Not that there's necessarily a great case, but they have different qualities. There's really nothing for Kobe because they're similar types of players.
Exactly.
SamuraiSWISH
02-23-2014, 03:33 PM
Thats almost as bad as the first post.
I'm just giving him a taste of his own medicine, I thought it was obvious. Anyway, this is what you mods have let ISH become ...
TheMan
02-23-2014, 03:39 PM
Pippen, and Oscar see themselves in LeBron. Both good at all, master of none, beta, stat stuffers.
In Oscar's case, a career loser who always had a spiteful inferiority complex in regards to Jordan during the 90's. Holds his disdain to this day.
Pippen's agenda is to prop himself up or his level of importance by using a player more similar to him, while simultaneously down grading Jordan.
He later reneged on his initial statement because he looked so damn foolish. Particularly after LeBron's horrendous showing in the 2011 Finals.
Alonzo Mourning has rooting interest in saying that considering he works for the Heat. Riley as well.
No one ever claimed LeBron wasn't near his level, either but no one of sound logic has ever said he's definitely better. There are countless people who still think Jordan's superior.
Zo also had his run ins with MJ, Jordan basically called him an idiot and sonned him multiple times, certainly no love lost between the two.
SamuraiSWISH
02-23-2014, 03:40 PM
Zo also had his run ins with MJ, Jordan basically called him an idiot and sonned him multiple times, certainly no love lost between the two.
When was this? I need more details of MJ ALPHA dogging someone else for entertainment purposes.
Black and White
02-23-2014, 03:43 PM
It's known that Scottie was jealous of Michael, there are so many HOFs and coaches that think MJ is the greatest ever, more than this list of a few people, some even suggest Kareem is the GOAT, but we don't all jump on that bandwagon because of it right???
TheMan
02-23-2014, 03:56 PM
When was this? I need more details of MJ ALPHA dogging someone else for entertainment purposes.
NSIS, but during one of their Heat/Bulls playoffs series in the mid 90s, MJ called Zo a dumb basketball player and that you can get in his head and make him lose his cool with Rodman's antics. Something along the lines...search the Sports Illustrated archives.
oarabbus
02-23-2014, 06:57 PM
http://sarahwaurechen.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/whats-your-point.jpg
:facepalm
idiot
CelticBaller
02-23-2014, 08:36 PM
When you compare basketball players you oftren talk about facts such as fg% ppg etc. Give me one thread or comparison on these forums or anywhere else without pure facts such as i mentioned earlier.
Post Michael Jordan's career averages and playoffs stats, wins % and everything and say bran is better with a straight face
Big#50
02-23-2014, 08:52 PM
Lebron is not better than Jordan. Easy as hell. Lebron is better than anyone else in history except for MJ/Shaq/Duncan/Bird/KAJ.
poido123
02-23-2014, 10:51 PM
If Scottie Pippen thinks so, then who the heck are any of us ISH posters to disagree with him. Dude knows more about Michael and Lebron than all of us combined.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6701584
"The comments that I made were basically giving LeBron some props as a player, not to dismantle any player like Michael," Pippen said after a youth camp session at the Bulls/Sox academy. "We all know that he's the greatest player that ever played the game.
"I think it was taken a little bit out of context. I felt like I was drawing more of a conclusion from the statistics more than the accolades."
SHAQisGOAT
02-23-2014, 11:16 PM
That many huh? :rolleyes:
greymatter
02-24-2014, 01:11 AM
It's really not all that big a surprise that they'd say this. Jordan was basically a SG version of Chamberlain until he got the right coach, the right system, and the right players put around him.
You ask all the pre-Jordan superstars who ever played who they would have wanted to play with the most, Magic, Bird, Russell, Oscar would probably top the list. Duncan and Lebron are on that 2nd tier. Doubt any of the ATG bigs would choose Jordan as a teammate over any of the people I just listed.
MichaelCorleone
02-24-2014, 01:11 AM
Wisdom.
Mr Feeny
02-24-2014, 08:24 AM
When was this? I need more details of MJ ALPHA dogging someone else for entertainment purposes.
Zo was mouthing off before the Bulls Hornets game in 1993. MJ hung 51 and dunked right in his grill, taunting him after the dunk.
In the 97 playoffs Zo was again talking trash. Jackson and Riley already hated each other's guts. Add the MJ and Zo dynamic which was only exacerbated by Alonzo elbowing Pippen in game 3 (?) giving Scottie that HUGE unsightly bump.
Mj took it upon himself to finish off the Heat in the next game and he did just that. Bulls went on to face Utah in the finals and Zo has been bitter ever since.
Derka
02-24-2014, 08:32 AM
Bully for them.
Excuse me while I form my own opinions. Jordan is still better.
Thanks.
c5terror
02-24-2014, 09:03 AM
Excluding MJ accomplishment for what he's known for.
Lebron can't even win a single DPOY
Lebron can't even win a single steal title (let alone 3) lol.
Lebron can't even match MJ first 9 years of Offensive Rebound stat up to now even though he's on his 10-11th year and 6'8 and played more games in an era of a joke bigs lol. (Statpad easily to get defensive rebound=childs play).
Lebron leave the lottery team that drafted him in his prime and join force with 2 of supposed to be his rival stars, adding a big "*" to all his postCLE accomplishment .
Most of the time when he statpad his assist, he also statpad his TO,
Most of the time when he post move, he travel (thanks NBA for LBJ travelling violation immunity).
Lberon is a 57%fg and can't even hit 80% FT? WTF??? that tells you that he still has those mental gap trademark of him and still shake his hand for whatever reason. Good thing his not dhoward.
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