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HOoopCityJones
02-23-2014, 04:58 PM
I know we like to classify two All-stars teaming up as a Batman and Robin duo, but I think it's very short sighted when taking either player's skills into consideration, like a Shaq & Kobe or even Lebron & Wade.

To be clear, Shaq was more dominant than Kobe on their Championship runs, there's no doubt. Same for LBJ & Wade, but the importance of Wade & Kobe to their respective repeats can't be measured. They both have specific skill sets that make them both invaluable to their Team's success.

For comparison sake, take Batman, is he in anyway stronger than Superman? No, but what makes him so important among the founding members of the Justice League? Skill. Batman is the investigator, the interrogator, strategist and combatant of the pair. Yea, Superman has the hax repertoire and the superb genes, but he's hindered by self righteousness and abiding by a boyscout handbook.

Batman does not bow to such needs, he's determined by a drive that surpasses that of even Superman, he's not a murderer, but he definitely emits a killer instinct comparable to even the most terrifying villains, he'll kill you with his gadgets, his mastery of hand-to-hand combat, his knowledge of various other fields of his craft and he wont stop coming after you, even if it means hypothetically blowing up a planet.

The point is when you have two very talented players , one more slightly talented than the other by a margin shouldn't mean that it completely demotes the latter player to Robin status.

All respective parties involved have certainly proved they are not Robins in the least.

zoom17
02-23-2014, 05:00 PM
I know we like to classify two All-stars teaming up as a Batman and Robin duo, but I think it's very short sighted when taking either player's skills into consideration, like a Shaq & Kobe or even Lebron & Wade.

To be clear, Shaq was more dominant than Kobe on their Championship runs, there's no doubt. Same for LBJ & Wade, but the importance of Wade & Kobe to their respective repeats can't be measured. They both have specific skill sets that make them both invaluable to their Team's success.

For comparison sake, take Batman, is he in anyway stronger than Superman? No, but what makes him so important among the founding members of the Justice League? Skill. Batman is the investigator, the interrogator, strategist and combatant of the pair. Yea, Superman has the hax repertoire and the superb genes, but he's hindered by self righteousness and abiding by a boyscout handbook.

Batman does not bow to such needs, he's determined by a drive that surpasses that of even Superman, he's not a murderer, but he definitely emits a killer instinct comparable to even the most terrifying villains, he'll kill you with his gadgets, his mastery of hand-to-hand combat, his knowledge of various other fields of his craft and he wont stop coming after you, even if it means hypothetically blowing up a planet.

The point is when you have two very talented players , one more slightly talented than the other by a margin shouldn't mean that it completely demotes the latter player to Robin status.

All respective parties involved have certainly proved they are not Robin's in the least.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--ekR6jG4Iwk/Tw4zvKN4RCI/AAAAAAAAAn0/IX-VBCUOUvs/s1600/didnt-read-lol-chicken-gif.gif

inclinerator
02-23-2014, 05:00 PM
nerd

HOoopCityJones
02-23-2014, 05:00 PM
You should.

9512
02-23-2014, 05:11 PM
Shaq is obviously superman and the analogy works because Batman is a broody loner and so is Kobe.

But then when Shaq retired I saw him becoming a lex Luthor type personality especially to Dwight's questionable superman status. Although shaq is not as brilliant a man as luthor is (no one is), he sure got luthor's bitterness and jealousy.

Personally I think Dwight as more a trickster like the flash or a joker from a parallel earth (good guy version).

ImKobe
02-23-2014, 05:12 PM
I know we like to classify two All-stars teaming up as a Batman and Robin duo, but I think it's very short sighted when taking either player's skills into consideration, like a Shaq & Kobe or even Lebron & Wade.

To be clear, Shaq was more dominant than Kobe on their Championship runs, there's no doubt. Same for LBJ & Wade, but the importance of Wade & Kobe to their respective repeats can't be measured. They both have specific skill sets that make them both invaluable to their Team's success.

For comparison sake, take Batman, is he in anyway stronger than Superman? No, but what makes him so important among the founding members of the Justice League? Skill. Batman is the investigator, the interrogator, strategist and combatant of the pair. Yea, Superman has the hax repertoire and the superb genes, but he's hindered by self righteousness and abiding by a boyscout handbook.

Batman does not bow to such needs, he's determined by a drive that surpasses that of even Superman, he's not a murderer, but he definitely emits a killer instinct comparable to even the most terrifying villains, he'll kill you with his gadgets, his mastery of hand-to-hand combat, his knowledge of various other fields of his craft and he wont stop coming after you, even if it means hypothetically blowing up a planet.

The point is when you have two very talented players , one more slightly talented than the other by a margin shouldn't mean that it completely demotes the latter player to Robin status.

All respective parties involved have certainly proved they are not Robins in the least.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MXjwTiNCh9Y/T7DuAonjP-I/AAAAAAAABK0/ZbId5wAzqWk/s320/darth-vader-didnt-read.gif

moe94
02-23-2014, 05:14 PM
Superman > Batman

HOoopCityJones
02-23-2014, 05:34 PM
Superman > Batman

Duh. :lol

Black and White
02-23-2014, 05:41 PM
Russell Westbrook = Vegeta

zoom17
02-23-2014, 05:42 PM
Russell Westbrook = Vegeta

:biggums:

BasedTom
02-23-2014, 05:46 PM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/didnt-read.gif

Black and White
02-23-2014, 05:48 PM
:biggums:

Steals dragonballs lol

Jameerthefear
02-23-2014, 05:49 PM
wow american cartoons suck

oarabbus
02-23-2014, 07:25 PM
Superman > Batman


I thought you were cool man :(


Unless you're talking about their actual talents/fighting ability, in which case it's true.

Otherwise... Batman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

moe94
02-23-2014, 07:30 PM
What's he going to do to a dude who can level the entire country he's at? What's he going to pull out of his little belt? They're not the same level when one of them can randomly wig out and destroy the entire planet.

bluechox2
02-23-2014, 07:31 PM
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/impossibru_0279f8_4268647.jpg

oarabbus
02-23-2014, 07:33 PM
Right, I'm not disputing that Superman is 10/10 and Batman is unable to even be compared on that scale.

What I am saying though is that:

Batman Begins/Dark Knight > any and all superman movies
That 90s batman cartoon > any superman cartoons
Joker > Lex Luthor and all superman villains

DonDadda59
02-23-2014, 07:45 PM
What's he going to do to a dude who can level the entire country he's at? What's he going to pull out of his little belt? They're not the same level when one of them can randomly wig out and destroy the entire planet.

Muhphuckin Kryptonite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx6l39BR_FM) :pimp:

Prometheus
02-23-2014, 10:08 PM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs6/2580105_l.gif

noob cake
02-23-2014, 10:09 PM
Is this a roundabout way of saying that Kobe was never Robin to Shaq and Gasol?

Bandito
02-23-2014, 10:14 PM
I agree with OP in mostly everything.

Phantom84
02-23-2014, 10:26 PM
Muhphuckin Kryptonite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx6l39BR_FM) :pimp:


That is Frank Miller's plot induced stupidity and that shit wasn't even canon.

This is how the fight really goes.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/102595/2496879-biggrecheese_batman_vs_superman__1_.gif

CelticBaller
02-23-2014, 10:37 PM
That is Frank Miller's plot induced stupidity and that shit wasn't even canon.

This is how the fight really goes.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/102595/2496879-biggrecheese_batman_vs_superman__1_.gif
good batman is mad overrated

ArbitraryWater
02-24-2014, 10:18 AM
Oh my, a Kobe fan acknowledging Shaq was the Man/Leader/Best Player :eek:

pauk
02-24-2014, 12:46 PM
Nah, both those duos were Batman & Robin.... difference is that Shaq's Robin (Kobe) was better & younger/healthier than Lebron's current Robin (Wade).... so much so that even 2000-2003 Kobe would be Batman playing with current Wade unfortunately...