View Full Version : El Chapo or Pablo Escobar
netsfan549
02-23-2014, 08:12 PM
Who was a bigger drug lord? and a bigger threat?
Smook A.
02-23-2014, 08:26 PM
The Chapo
The Real JW
02-23-2014, 08:37 PM
Escobar. Peak net worth of about $3 billion, with the Medell
mr.big35
02-23-2014, 08:44 PM
pablo escobar is the real scar face
DonDadda59
02-23-2014, 08:48 PM
[QUOTE=The Real JW]Escobar. Peak net worth of about $3 billion, with the Medell
BurningHammer
02-23-2014, 11:57 PM
El Chapo.
Made more money. Live longer.
fiddy
02-24-2014, 12:12 AM
Both dudes are losers.
Chapo and Escobar had billions of dollars, and one is dead and the other one is going to get ass ****ed in prison until he kills himself.
Who is the winner?
Both of them.
oarabbus
02-24-2014, 01:28 AM
Both dudes are losers.
Chapo and Escobar had billions of dollars, and one is dead and the other one is going to get ass ****ed in prison until he kills himself.
Who is the winner?
Actually a good point that gets lost too often.
highwhey
02-24-2014, 01:28 AM
chapo has made more money
if youve never been to mexico, you have no idea how easy it is to buy off police. $20 gets you off a speeding ticket, imagine how much a billionaire can get away with? the whole country is corrupt as fck, look at their underdeveloped roads and highways, wonder why they have potholes even after 5-10 years of the government having granted money to rebuild them? the money gets diverted into pockets other than contractors. a lot of politicians are scumbags who will take money and look the other way.
you have to understand that cops in mexico dont even make the equivalent of what a mcdoanlds employee on minimuim wage earns a month here in the u.s earning a couple hundred dollars a month is a good job in mexico, ~400 A MONTH! now imagine being bribed a couple thousand, are you going to refuse?
fiddy
02-24-2014, 01:33 AM
Actually a good point that gets lost too often.
Really? they had the lifestyle millions dreamed about, covet and would kill to get there for a month.
oarabbus
02-24-2014, 01:39 AM
Really? they had the lifestyle millions dreamed about, covet and would kill to get there for a month.
I'd rather be Paul Allen. Have enough money to make these two guys look like pitiful beggars, own 2 sports teams (one of whom just won you a championship), helped to found a massive multibillion dollar business, and be healthy with a long life expectancy.
That is a winner right there.
highwhey
02-24-2014, 01:46 AM
I'd rather be Paul Allen. Have enough money to make these two guys look like pitiful beggars, own 2 sports teams (one of whom just won you a championship), helped to found a massive multibillion dollar business, and be healthy with a long life expectancy.
That is a winner right there.
do you think a show about paul allen would beat the ratings of walter white? everyone wants to be the badass
oarabbus
02-24-2014, 01:57 AM
do you think a show about paul allen would beat the ratings of walter white? everyone wants to be the badass
Well Pablo Escobar was actually a pretty sick person and donated a lot of money to development of roads, hospitals, schools, etc. A lot of negative views of him are from extremely biased pro-War-on-Drugs sources. He was well loved and a hero in Colombia, so I take back him being called a loser.
Paul Allen still >>>>> El Chapo or Escobar though. Yeah, no one would watch his show... but he'll be the one drinking from a $75,000 bottle of scotch this year while the drug lords are in chains or six feet under.
Paul Allen could literally buy EVERYTHING El Chapo owns, all the houses, cars, guns, drugs, jewelry, etc. He could pile it up together, set it all on fire, and then rent a military jet to drop firebombs on it.
After he did this he would still be well over 10x richer than El Chapo Guzman and would still have over 90% of his wealth remaining.
KevinNYC
02-24-2014, 02:02 AM
Even while Escobar was at his height, lots folks thought fabio Ochoa was more powerful
[QUOTE]He was portrayed in the 2006 documentary film Cocaine Cowboys, where the former Medell
highwhey
02-24-2014, 02:12 AM
Well Pablo Escobar was actually a pretty sick person and donated a lot of money to development of roads, hospitals, schools, etc. A lot of negative views of him are from extremely biased pro-War-on-Drugs sources. He was well loved and a hero in Colombia, so I take back him being called a loser.
Paul Allen still >>>>> El Chapo or Escobar though. Yeah, no one would watch his show... but he'll be the one drinking from a $75,000 bottle of scotch this year while the drug lords are in chains or six feet under.
Paul Allen could literally buy EVERYTHING El Chapo owns, all the houses, cars, guns, drugs, jewelry, etc. He could pile it up together, set it all on fire, and then rent a military jet to drop firebombs on it.
After he did this he would still be well over 10x richer than El Chapo Guzman and would still have over 90% of his wealth remaining.
No one is arguing allens net worth, but he isn't a legend. El Chapo has an incalculable amount of songs written about him. Has paul allen ever escaped from prison? Has he ever pulled up to a restaurant and seized every phone then paid for everyone's bill? Mexico is a poverty struck country, so on a relative basis he is as wealthy ss Paul is to the average us citizen
Canelo_Griffin
02-24-2014, 02:36 AM
Too bad online social media didn't exist back then to see pics of how Escobar and his people enjoyed their money.
It's crazy to think how freely these CDS guys shared all these pics...
https://twitter.com/AlfredoGuzma
https://twitter.com/_IvanGuzman_
https://twitter.com/comandante57_
https://twitter.com/ZambadaSerafin
East_Stone_Ya
02-24-2014, 06:36 AM
Too bad online social media didn't exist back then to see pics of how Escobar and his people enjoyed their money.
It's crazy to think how freely these CDS guys shared all these pics...
https://twitter.com/AlfredoGuzma
https://twitter.com/_IvanGuzman_
https://twitter.com/comandante57_
https://twitter.com/ZambadaSerafin
that's plain stupid so much info that the army can get from those photos :facepalm
highwhey
02-24-2014, 04:18 PM
i was listening to a spanish radio and they were discussing how the capture of el chapo was timed accordingly bc of todays release of Time Magazine featuring on the cover Mexicos President.
Tarik One
02-24-2014, 04:53 PM
pablo escobar is the real scar face
Nope. Pablo was this guy:
http://scarfacewikipedia.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/1/8/3218355/3631006_orig.gif
Nope. Pablo was this guy:
http://scarfacewikipedia.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/1/8/3218355/3631006_orig.gif
Escobar was a fat slob
Tarik One
02-24-2014, 05:22 PM
Escobar was a fat slob
I meant in terms of power. Tony Montana was nothing compared to Escobar.
-p.tiddy-
02-24-2014, 05:35 PM
Too bad online social media didn't exist back then to see pics of how Escobar and his people enjoyed their money.
It's crazy to think how freely these CDS guys shared all these pics...
https://twitter.com/AlfredoGuzma
https://twitter.com/_IvanGuzman_
https://twitter.com/comandante57_
https://twitter.com/ZambadaSerafin
http://www.policymic.com/articles/79841/these-28-instagram-pictures-just-busted-one-of-the-biggest-mexican-drug-lords
the third twitter account you listed there was arrested BECAUSE of his social media posting :facepalm
no tweets since arrest
http://thank-god-for-the-internet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mexican-drug-lord-instagram-golden-gun-scarface.jpg
^^^ one of his instagram/Twitter postings
you know what's crazy? Hollywood CREATED how these guys act in real life...they want to be Scarface...that is who they aspire to be in life...Al Pacino played the part the decided how these guys should act
you can see the Hip Hop industry does it for these guys too...their Bentleys and Louboutin shoes and oversized diamnd watches
and these guys just can't help themselves but to show off on Twitter...smh...they're like kids
DonDadda59
02-24-2014, 05:43 PM
http://www.policymic.com/articles/79841/these-28-instagram-pictures-just-busted-one-of-the-biggest-mexican-drug-lords
the third twitter account you listed there was arrested BECAUSE of his social media posting :facepalm
no tweets since arrest
How stupid could people possibly be? :facepalm
If I'm Chapo or any other cartel boss, as soon as I find out my subordinates are posting incriminating stuff on f*ckin twitter... I put out a hit on all of them. Leave them in the street with a computer mouse shoved up their ass as a message.
Unbelievable.
-p.tiddy-
02-24-2014, 05:51 PM
How stupid could people possibly be? :facepalm
If I'm Chapo or any other cartel boss, as soon as I find out my subordinates are posting incriminating stuff on f*ckin twitter... I put out a hit on all of them. Leave them in the street with a computer mouse shoved up their ass as a message.
Unbelievable.
yeah it really is jaw-droppingly stupid...but you know it's an illegal business, it's not like they have manager's meetings on how to conduct themselves online :lol ...and on top of that these guys probably never set foot in school at even a high school level...school for them was watching Scarface over and over
brownmamba00
02-24-2014, 06:50 PM
At his peak Pablo Escobar was making $1 million/day. his cartel smuggled 15 tons of cocaine everyday in whole America.
According to Roberto Escobar (his accountant), he and his brother's operation spent $2500 a month purchasing rubber bands to wrap the stacks of cash, storing most of it in their warehouses; 10% had to be written-off due to "spoilage" by rats who crept in at night and nibbled on the hundred dollar bills
can't make this shit up:oldlol:
Canelo_Griffin
02-24-2014, 08:03 PM
One critical thing to consider is that this cartel basically did whatever the F.ck they wanted with complete impunity. Thus, they weren't too worried about sharing their whereabouts and their activities, in regards to the authorities capturing them. The only people they needed to worry about was rival cartels.
It's been widely speculated that the Sinaloa Cartel was lowkey working with the CIA and the Mexican Government. The cartel would give intel on rival cartels and the CIA/Mex Govt. would grant them immunity to continue their trafficking.
It's interesting how all 4 accounts basically stopped activity around the same time, which leads me to believe that something happened that changed that relationship between the govt and the cartel. Not only was @comandante57_ arrested recently..@ZambadaSerafin was also arrested trying to cross the border into the US in November. Funny thing is that he was born in San Diego, so by law he is just as American as any of us :lol
-p.tiddy-
02-24-2014, 08:18 PM
It's interesting how all 4 accounts basically stopped activity around the same time
I noticed that as well...
@comandante57_ ended in September...and he is the one that got caught due to his Instagram posting
the others all ended pretty much THE SAME DAY...Nov. 10, Nov. 9, and Nov. 8
my theory?...the news that @comandante57_ was arrested BECAUSE of Twitter/Instagram didn't hit them until Nov.10...and once that happened all the others suddenly decided to stop Tweeting lol
Canelo_Griffin
02-24-2014, 08:51 PM
I noticed that as well...
@comandante57_ ended in September...and he is the one that got caught due to his Instagram posting
the others all ended pretty much THE SAME DAY...Nov. 10, Nov. 9, and Nov. 8
my theory?...the news that @comandante57_ was arrested BECAUSE of Twitter/Instagram didn't hit them until Nov.10...and once that happened all the others suddenly decided to stop Tweeting lol
The thing is @comandante57_ wasn't arrested till December 30th, 2013 in Amsterdam. His twitter was compromised by a spambot, as you can see from his last tweet, so he just continued using his instagram instead. I remember hearing about his arrest and I immediately googled his instagram and that mfer was still uploading a couple more pics/vids even tho according to the news, he was already in custody.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/08/article-2535666-1A7BB51700000578-182_634x384.jpg
This is one of them, the caption is basically him making a sarcastic comment in regards to reading about his arrest. According to the facts, he was arrested on December 30th but in another video, on his instagram, he was dancing while the fireworks were seen in the background, breaking in the new year. :oldlol: cheeky bastard
Interestingly, his instagram was deleted but not his twitter...
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