MIND BLOWN.. Lakers 3peat Roster vs Heat Currently

[Dizzle-2k7]

Lakers- Shaq, Kobe, Fisher, Rick Fox, Devean George, Lindsey Hunter, Robert Horry, Mark Madsen, Mitch Richmond, Brain Shaw, Samaki Walker

Heat - Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Ray, Rashard, Battier, Oden, Beasley, Chalmers, Cole, Birdman...



Lakers are Shaq/Kobe and a bunch of garbage... Heat are an all star team with multiple hall of famers and amazing roleplayers

Heat unarguably most stacked team of modern era (since 1990)... arguably most stacked team all time. :eek:

[Peteballa]

"Brain Shaw"

By the way, there were big names on those Lakers rosters who were washed up, much like Lewis/Battier are for the Heat.

Horace Grant
Ron Harper
Mitch Richmond

You also left out that the 00 Lakers had a VERY serviceable Glen Rice.

But I guess that doesn't fit the agenda, so let's not mention it.

[MavsSuperFan]

lakers in 5

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Are you a Spurs or a Lakers fan?

[Bandito]

I dont aee why OP have to point that out. Every sensible knows the Heat are stacked beyond belief.

[Yankstar]

Lakers- Shaq, Kobe, Fisher, Rick Fox, Devean George, Lindsey Hunter, Robert Horry, Mark Madsen, Mitch Richmond, Brain Shaw, Samaki Walker

Heat - Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Ray, Rashard, Battier, Oden, Beasley, Chalmers, Cole, Birdman...



Lakers are Shaq/Kobe and a bunch of garbage... Heat are an all star team with multiple hall of famers and amazing roleplayers

Heat unarguably most stacked team of modern era (since 1990)... arguably most stacked team all time. :eek:

:applause:

http://kingsrowe.com/blog/sites/default/files/Kobe-Bryant-No-8-Los-Angeles-Lakers.jpg

He is all you need :rockon:

[brownmamba00]

LA sweep

[ImKobe]

Shaw & Fox are underrated. Showed up in big games (especially Shaw in 2000 WCF Game 7).

[DaSeba5]

Lakers- Shaq, Kobe, Fisher, Rick Fox, Devean George, Lindsey Hunter, Robert Horry, Mark Madsen, Mitch Richmond, Brain Shaw, Samaki Walker

Heat - Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Ray, Rashard, Battier, Oden, Beasley, Chalmers, Cole, Birdman...



Lakers are Shaq/Kobe and a bunch of garbage... Heat are an all star team with multiple hall of famers and amazing roleplayers

Heat unarguably most stacked team of modern era (since 1990)... arguably most stacked team all time. :eek:

:roll:

[kentatm]

Lakers- Shaq, Kobe, Fisher, Rick Fox, Devean George, Lindsey Hunter, Robert Horry, Mark Madsen, Mitch Richmond, Brain Shaw, Samaki Walker

Heat - Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Ray, Rashard, Battier, Oden, Beasley, Chalmers, Cole, Birdman...



Lakers are Shaq/Kobe and a bunch of garbage... Heat are an all star team with multiple hall of famers and amazing roleplayers

Heat unarguably most stacked team of modern era (since 1990)... arguably most stacked team all time. :eek:

so what?

the 3 peat Lakers have the most important and best player in Shaq.

of course you Kobe-stans are too ignorant of basketball to see that this actually speaks to the greatness of Shaq and how much more important bigs are.

and :lol at Bosh who was made to look like a useless sack of suds by an old ass Dirk. (again, showing that bigs are the most important thing 95% of the time.)

[LeGOAT]

Ray/Rashard/Battier= washed up. Beasley gives some good production off the bench but it's not like all the teams were begging to have him in the off season, he was a reality forgotten player. Chalmers and Cole are serviceable PGs that any championship team will have. Birdman is a nice spark plug who gives a few dunks, rebounds and a block or 2. lmao at "most stacked team of modern era"

[zoom17]

:applause:

http://kingsrowe.com/blog/sites/default/files/Kobe-Bryant-No-8-Los-Angeles-Lakers.jpg

He is all you need :rockon:

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0603/pg2_kobeshaq_300.jpg

[MavsSuperFan]

so what?

the 3 peat Lakers have the most important and best player in Shaq.

of course you Kobe-stans are too ignorant of basketball to see that this actually speaks to the greatness of Shaq more than anything.

and :lol: at Bosh who was made to look like a useless sack of suds by an old ass Dirk.
also lets be honest the non-kobe stans underrate him too much. He is at worst a top 10-15 player.

[kentatm]

also lets be honest the non-kobe stans underrate him too much. He is at worst a top 10-15 player.


borderline top 15 at best.

no way in hell Kobe is top 10.

sorry but he just isnt.

[zoom17]

borderline top 15 at best.

no way in hell Kobe is top 10.

sorry but he just isnt.

:oldlol:

[hahaitme]

So OP, I guess you are trying to say that this Miami Heat team > Lakers.
:cheers:

[DuMa]

Miami is the only team to win without a dominating frontcourt in the last 15 years.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Shaq = 30.4 PPG, 15.4 RPG, 56% FG% in the playoffs in 2000

Wade AND Bosh COMBINED in the finals last year: 30.5 PPG, 13RPG, 46% FG

Look at that. Kobe had ONE GUY to help him that was stastically greater than Bosh and Wade combined :coleman:

[inclinerator]

what about 04 lakers? wow 4 hall of famers

[Kiddlovesnets]

two words: prime shaq.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Kobe stans have been getting really insecure the last few weeks.

[Cold soul]

Lakers win in 5 games. They are the way better team and had peak Shaq who peaked way higher than Lebron.

[DuMa]

Kobe stans have been getting really insecure the last 10 years.

fixed

[MavsSuperFan]

borderline top 15 at best.

no way in hell Kobe is top 10.

sorry but he just isnt.
I said 10-15

[JebronLames]

Kobe stans have been getting really insecure the last few weeks.
They're upset about LeBron not suffering a serious injury. Teased them with the broken nose.

[kentatm]

I said 10-15

I mean that he is borderline #15 with no shot of being top 10 at all.

not even inside the top 15.

[Dizzle-2k7]

I mean that he is borderline #15 with no shot of being top 10 at all.

not even inside the top 15.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

kobe is easily top 7.... 3 rings as co-alpha.. 2 rings as alpha leader.. that resume is undeniable

[Goldrush25]

This board is like the movie Groundhog Day. Every day people are talking about the same shite, never fails.:oldlol:

How many times can people say the same thing in a different fashion? You don't like Lebron, we get it.

[kentatm]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

kobe is easily top 7.... 3 rings as co-alpha.. 2 rings as alpha leader.. that resume is undeniable


nope

not even close

[Rubio2Gasol]

They are, but the Spurs, Lakers, Portland and Sacramento would all beat the heat in 5-6 games.

[embersyc]

Lindsey Hunter was an elite on ball defender and could knock down the 3. Huge part of Pistons 04 championship.

[Black and White]

nope

not even close

He is a top 10 player, no question

[ArbitraryWater]

He is a top 10 player, no question

Because Kobe > Hakeem is no question?

[Black and White]

Because Kobe > Hakeem is no question?

Most people have Kobe in the top 10 dude, where he goes in the top 10 is the real arguement, Hakeem can be there if you want, you just have to knock LeBron out in that case

[Rose'sACL]

They are, but the Spurs, Lakers, Portland and Sacramento would all beat the heat in 5-6 games.
that is such a ridiculous statement. if philly can win a game against LA then heat can win 3. Pacers are long all around. they are not just long at the 5, their whole team is tall which is why they give miami problems even though they don't have talent to match heat. unless you are giving duncan and shaq as good of a defensive team as current pacers, they are not winning in 5 against the heat.
Heat isn't even made to compete against teams of the past. they are made to win in current league. i am sure they would have picked up a good defensive big man for around 10 million. he would just have to do what birdman does on offense which is easy putbacks or open dunks. this would have made heat a really tough opponent for any team.

[navy]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

kobe is easily top 7.... 3 rings as co-alpha.. 2 rings as alpha leader.. that resume is undeniable
Kobe was a beta for the first ring.

[Rubio2Gasol]

that is such a ridiculous statement. if philly can win a game against LA then heat can win 3.
Heat isn't even made to compete against teams of the past. they are made to win in current league. i am sure they would have picked up a good defensive big man for around 10 million. he would just have to do what birdman does on offense which is easy putbacks or open dunks. this would have made heat a really tough opponent for any team.

If you seriously think the Miami team that couldn't make a jumper to save their life would have beaten Philly, I don't know what to say. Just clog the lane and watch Lebron cry.

[eliteballer]

that is such a ridiculous statement. if philly can win a game against LA then heat can win 3. Pacers are long all around. they are not just long at the 5, their whole team is tall which is why they give miami problems even though they don't have talent to match heat. unless you are giving duncan and shaq as good of a defensive team as current pacers, they are not winning in 5 against the heat.
Heat isn't even made to compete against teams of the past. they are made to win in current league. i am sure they would have picked up a good defensive big man for around 10 million. he would just have to do what birdman does on offense which is easy putbacks or open dunks. this would have made heat a really tough opponent for any team.

By that logic if George and Hibbert can win 3 games against Miami Kobe and Shaq should sweep them.

The Lakers had a lot of time off between the Conference Finals and Finals, and didn't really take Philly seriously as the Spurs and Kings were considered far better teams.

[kamil]

:applause:

http://kingsrowe.com/blog/sites/default/files/Kobe-Bryant-No-8-Los-Angeles-Lakers.jpg

He is all you need :rockon:

Explain the 2004 NBA Finals.

[SilkkTheShocker]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

kobe is easily top 7.... 3 rings as co-alpha.. 2 rings as alpha leader.. that resume is undeniable

Co-alpha?

Try sidekick. :oldlol:

[BrownEye007]

I think it's funny that Heat fans try to act like their team is a bunch of washed up scrubs other than Lebron. Even if they aren't the most stacked of all time they're easily the most stacked today.

[Rose'sACL]

If you seriously think the Miami team that couldn't make a jumper to save their life would have beaten Philly, I don't know what to say. Just clog the lane and watch Lebron cry.
if you think otherwise, you're an idiot. also, heat make a lot of jumpers. they are not great at it but they are not bad at it either.

[Solefade]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

kobe is easily top 7.... 3 rings as co-alpha.. 2 rings as alpha leader.. that resume is undeniable


co-alpha my ass lol



how many statistical categories did kobe lead his team in and how many does lebron on their respective "stacked" teams?

[AintNoSunshine]

Shaq alone＞＞＞wade and bosh combined

[MichaelCorleone]

Co-alpha?

Try sidekick. :oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[russwest0]

If the Heat make Roy Hibbert look like prime Shaq imagine what prime Shaq would do to em :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: Plus Kobe shitting all over LeBron.

It'd be LA in 4 games.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Miami is the only team to win without a dominating frontcourt in the last 15 years.

Have Bosh and Lebron

whine about having no frontcourt

:facepalm

[G-train]

OP has gone the full retard

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Is co-alpha a fancy term for 'sidekick' the kids use now-a-days?

[MichaelCorleone]

Is co-alpha a fancy term for 'sidekick' the kids use now-a-days?
Only Kobetards use that word.:roll:

[G-train]

I think it's funny that Heat fans try to act like their team is a bunch of washed up scrubs other than Lebron. Even if they aren't the most stacked of all time they're easily the most stacked today.

You have gone the polar opposite, the truth is in the middle.

[VIntageNOvel]

wade the batman have more rings than bron, deal with it

[Megabox!]

wade the batman have more rings than bron, deal with it
This has nothing to do with anything being said in this thread

[Megabox!]

Those 3-peat Laker teams were damn good, especially having a prime Shaq on their team. Dude was unstoppable

[red1]

If the Heat make Roy Hibbert look like prime Shaq imagine what prime Shaq would do to em :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: Plus Kobe shitting all over LeBron.

It'd be LA in 4 games.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/06/durant-cries-to-mom-has-revenge-in-eyes-after-finals-loss/1#.Uwv3is6Knbc

Durant cries to Mom, has revenge in eyes after Finals loss

Durant cries to Mom, has revenge in eyes after Finals loss

Durant cries to Mom, has revenge in eyes after Finals loss


















































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[rmt]

Prime Shaq would kill the Heat.

[miles berg]

The difference in Shaq and everyone else on either roster is so large that it negates the difference in depth.

Shaq with one of LeBron, Wade, or Kobe would crush the other team with the two leftover guys.

[dannysc305]

Dudes say stacked like its a bad thing :lol

[sbw19]

I don't think people realize how good role players like Fox, Grant and Shaw were back then. Lakers had problems when those were injured or in foul-trouble because they lacked depth, but 3-7 dudes were very reliable role players even though they weren't exactly stars a la Wade and Bosh.

[DMAVS41]

Depth is over-rated come playoff time actually...it's a nice advantage in the regular season, but in the playoffs it's very over-rated...especially here on ISH

People also under-rate Shaq here during that time. I swear it's like people think what Wade and Bosh have done in 12 and 13 is remotely comparable.

When it was comparable was in 11 when Wade was still at his peak/prime and destroying teams...and Bosh was playing very well

That star power was dominant until Lebron choked his ass off in the finals like a little bitch

[JohnFreeman]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1653694_732161950138587_628415249_n.jpg

[Mgamer20o0]

I don't think people realize how good role players like Fox, Grant and Shaw were back then. Lakers had problems when those were injured or in foul-trouble because they lacked depth, but 3-7 dudes were very reliable role players even though they weren't exactly stars a la Wade and Bosh.

you are right. they wouldnt have won with out them. fox while older was their defender. how about shaws 3 pointer at the end of the 3rd quarter vs portland to rally from the come back.....

[Yao Ming's Foot]

I don't think people realize how good role players like Fox, Grant and Shaw were back then. Lakers had problems when those were injured or in foul-trouble because they lacked depth, but 3-7 dudes were very reliable role players even though they weren't exactly stars a la Wade and Bosh.


They were reliably mediocre. Where do you get the idea that they were anything more than average role players? Look at their playoff numbers. What's so great about that?

[gin17]

peak shaq > peak lebron.

that's all you need to know.

[houston]

Heat current

[sbw19]

you are right. they wouldnt have won with out them. fox while older was their defender. how about shaws 3 pointer at the end of the 3rd quarter vs portland to rally from the come back.....
Yup. And in the 4th he hit what 3 more? He had that connection with Shaq since their Magic days, loved the Shawshaq redemption reference whenever he threw him an oop pass.


They were reliably mediocre. Where do you get the idea that they were anything more than average role players? Look at their playoff numbers. What's so great about that?

The Slavas and Madsens were mediocre, but not the likes of Rick Fox. We wouldn't have three-peated without his defense and allaround game. Him, Fisher, Grant, Horry, Hunter and even Shaw despite his age were not your average role players experience and smartswise. All had high bball IQ and delivered when the team needed them to.

[tomtucker]

Lakers- Shaq, Kobe, Fisher, Rick Fox, Devean George, Lindsey Hunter, Robert Horry, Mark Madsen, Mitch Richmond, Brain Shaw, Samaki Walker

Heat - Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Ray, Rashard, Battier, Oden, Beasley, Chalmers, Cole, Birdman...



Lakers are Shaq/Kobe and a bunch of garbage... Heat are an all star team with multiple hall of famers and amazing roleplayers

Heat unarguably most stacked team of modern era (since 1990)... arguably most stacked team all time. :eek:

that laker line up does look a bit weak.......but was it the same roster for all 3 years ? .........and how was the rosters of the teams they were facing ?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

The Slavas and Madsens were mediocre, but not the likes of Rick Fox. We wouldn't have three-peated without his defense and allaround game. Him, Fisher, Grant, Horry, Hunter and even Shaw despite his age were not your average role players experience and smartswise. All had high bball IQ and delivered when the team needed them to.

You are hitting me with a lot of meaningless cliches and anecdotes how about some numbers? Why couldn't Rick Fox be replaced by another mediocre 3-4 million dollar player?

[Kiddlovesnets]

Prime Shaq > Everyone else on the Heat combined minus Lebron, whats your point?
:rolleyes:

[sbw19]

You are hitting me with a lot of meaningless cliches and anecdotes how about some numbers? Why couldn't Rick Fox be replaced by another mediocre 3-4 million dollar player?
10/5/4/2 (45/32/87) +13.1/-2.8 on/off court during his best season in playoffs. Not much better than say JR Smith's last season playoff averages of 14/5/2/1, but that's not saying much since numbers don't equal skills, IQ, attitude and professionalism, in particular @ roleplayer level. Youtube is your best friend, watch the games if you want to judge a player's game.

As to why he couldn't be replaced, because he was good enough to be a solid player on a championship team. Taking into account arbitrary salary numbers without considering what a player brings to the table and team's needs is hardly how frontoffices work, well winning ones at least.