Most overrated rapper: currently and all time

[BrownEye007]

I say Drake (if you can even consider him a rapper) and Jay-z. Jay isn't terrible like Drake but I often hear him get mentioned in GOAT talks and I haven't even heard one song from him that make me go, "wow, he just killed it". Pretty average rapper.

[16X]

Definitely Gay-Z.

[Wavves]

I'll be the guy to say it.

Most overrated rapper of all time is Tupac.

[tomtucker]

Jay-z
2-pac
nas

most underrated: Ice T

[pauk]

All-time: Jay-Z
Current: Tough one, so damn many... but lets start with Drake... generally i just dont like the new style of rap/"hiphop", there is some good stuff/rappers out there but its getting harder & harder to find.

[andgar923]

Kanye
Drake
Wayne
Hova
Guru
Nas
WAyne

[BrownEye007]

Kanye
Drake
Wayne
Hova
Guru
Nas
WAyne
I like Nas a lot and I've never even heard of the other two so I'm gonna have to disagree with those. Good list other than that though :applause: I had a lot of trouble picking between Drake and Wayne.

[East_Stone_Ya]

as a rapper Kanye,
Jay-Z
R Ross

[kurple]

I'll be the guy to say it.

Most overrated rapper of all time is Tupac.
care to say why?

because his rhymes were simpe (compared to rappers like rakim and kool G)

pac is the goat rapper. i dont care what anyone says. dude was more than just rap, he wanted to change the world

[kurple]

I like Nas a lot and I've never even heard of the other two so I'm gonna have to disagree with those. Good list other than that though :applause: I had a lot of trouble picking between Drake and Wayne.
you've never heard of hova and guru?


jay z and eminem are my picks

[fiddy]

Kanye
Drake
Wayne
Hova
Guru
Nas
WAyne
:eek:

[Bless Mathews]

I'll be the guy to say it.

Most overrated rapper of all time is Tupac.
Lol.

Gyea. Tupac was a good rapper. Goat???? Hell no.

[Bless Mathews]

Jay-z
2-pac
nas

most underrated: Ice T
:applause:

Ice t is my guy. His first three albums all CLASSICS.

[Bless Mathews]

care to say why?

because his rhymes were simpe (compared to rappers like rakim and kool G)

pac is the goat rapper. i dont care what anyone says. dude was more than just rap, he wanted to change the world
Lolololololololol

He was so fake. Go from a ballet dancer to background dancer to thug in what, 3,4 years??? Lol.

Dudes a joke. Fake as MUSIC. Corny ass singing everywhere. Lyrically, decent. Delivery good. Goat???? Lololololol. No way.

But if Kurt loder and tabitha sorenson and rest of MTV say it......

[Bless Mathews]

you've never heard of hova and guru?


jay z and eminem are my picks
Lyrically eminem is KILLING PAC. Even jay z gets him. Smh.

[BrownEye007]

you've never heard of hova and guru?


jay z and eminem are my picks
Nope. Are they solo artists? If they're in a group that might be why I've never heard of them. Em is my absolute favorite though. I actually think he's underrated because most people that like rap agree his first three albums are really good, but don't like a lot of his newer stuff. I think his newer stuff is still better than what most rappers put out though and with the exception of a few songs is still really good material. That's just me though.

[BrownEye007]

Lyrically eminem is KILLING PAC. Even jay z gets him. Smh.
:coleman:

[BRabbiT]

Wayne (past)

Macklemore (now)

[KobesFinger]

2Pac IMO. Hova is one of Jay-Z's nicknames and Guru was in Gangstarr

[T_L_P]

Eminem is my pick.

He hasn't made a great album since MMLP :confusedshrug:

[tomtucker]

Jay-z
2-pac
nas

most underrated: Ice T

lemme just say why

Jay-z was really good on his first couple of albums....but the hype around got too big imo

2-pac, okay rapper, but his death caused him to get looked upon as a saint

nas, way too monotone style............ no matter the beat, his delivery is the same

[CelticBaller]

Eminem is currently, of all time has to be Jay-Z

[Go Getter]

Eminem currently and all-time.

One of the best lyrically but he is vastly overrated and half of his stuff I listen to for the rhymes then never play again because without Dre his beats are terrible.

[Go Getter]

lemme just say why

Jay-z was really good on his first couple of albums....but the hype around got too big imo

2-pac, okay rapper, but his death caused him to get looked upon as a saint

nas, way too monotone style............ no matter the beat, his delivery is the same


Delivery=/=tone

2Pac had some of the most impactful lyrics of all-time.....so much so that Eminem remixed his album/songs without even knowing him:facepalm

[Done_And_Done]

I never quite understood the adulation for Wayne. Much of his catalog is just so meh to me so i'm going to say him.

[FaceBack]

Eminem currently and all-time.

One of the best lyrically but he is vastly overrated and half of his stuff I listen to for the rhymes then never play again because without Dre his beats are terrible.

that's why he is a rapper and not a synthesizer, are you for real?

[Milbuck]

Nas is not overrated...

[Styles p]

I like Nas a lot and I've never even heard of the other two so I'm gonna have to disagree with those. Good list other than that though :applause: I had a lot of trouble picking between Drake and Wayne.

never heard of guru? :facepalm

[LeGOAT]

Well Mackelmore won a Grammy so...

[Jackass18]

Jay-Z
Can't say for current since I don't listen to much current stuff

[-p.tiddy-]

it's TuPac...you can't find a top-100 or top-10 list without Pac in the top-3 or even #1 overall

the guy gets legend status and he wasn't even a very good lyricist at all...people just love his thug-life persona more than anything



"feeeel me..."

[casual_fan]

Currently Kanye. Drake and Wayne suck too, but most poeple seem to agree on that, whereas they act like Kanye is some creative genious:banghead:

All time its Nas. I mean he had some good songs in the 90s and is an all right rapper, but I don

[-p.tiddy-]

Wayne is actually underrated if anything...anytime his name comes up it is something negative

he has more hits than anyone, has stayed relevant for over a decade now, and has the entire rap industry biting his style and dying to have him featured on their track so they can have radio success

has there been a rap artist out there who has given Wayne any beef?....probably not because they know it would be career suicide, he just has way too much pull


I don't care for Wayne really but like it or not he has been a monster influence on the industry as a whole

[CelticBaller]

[QUOTE=casual_fan]Currently Kanye. Drake and Wayne suck too, but most poeple seem to agree on that, whereas they act like Kanye is some creative genious:banghead:

All time its Nas. I mean he had some good songs in the 90s and is an all right rapper, but I don

[Black and White]

[QUOTE=casual_fan]Currently Kanye. Drake and Wayne suck too, but most poeple seem to agree on that, whereas they act like Kanye is some creative genious:banghead:

[B]All time its Nas. I mean he had some good songs in the 90s and is an all right rapper, but I don

[tmacattack33]

2pac and Jay-z.

2pac was a great actor and personality and you can even call him a social activist i guess. But he wasn't so great on the mic in terms of pure lyrical talent.

Jay-z had a great debut album, and some very consistent albums since then. And he is a good businessman and knows how to stay relevant. This has lead many to put him in GOAT talks even though he's probably about only top 5-10 lyrically.

[chips93]

that's why he is a rapper and not a synthesizer, are you for real?

part of being a good rapper should be having an ear for good beats.

[BrownEye007]

part of being a good rapper should be having an ear for good beats.
That is true but imo you can have a good song with good lyrics and an average beat. Not so much the other way around. And most of the beats on mmlp2 are actually good except for Monster. His choruses are what drag his current songs down the most if you ask me.

[TheReturn]

Lil Wayne.

[Done_And_Done]

[QUOTE=casual_fan]Currently Kanye. Drake and Wayne suck too, but most poeple seem to agree on that, whereas they act like Kanye is some creative genious:banghead:

All time its Nas. I mean he had some good songs in the 90s and is an all right rapper, but I don

[JUDGE WITNESS]

subjective

[oarabbus]

Lil Wayne.


How can you say this when Drake exists

[Draz]

Nas
2pac

[LongLiveTheKing]

Jay-Z

[ace23]

How can you say someone's overrated when there are no ratings?

[Go Getter]

How can you say someone's overrated when there are no ratings?
^When trying to be smart makes you look stupid....:facepalm

[ace23]

^When trying to be smart makes you look stupid....:facepalm
What?

Show me a top 100 list of rappers that everyone can agree on and I'll show you who's overrated.

[Go Getter]

What?

Show me a top 100 list of rappers that everyone can agree on and I'll show you who's overrated.

It's just bullshit talk to pass the times man no need to analyze it like a PhD. People just name acts they think others like too much based off of feelings, awards, and album sales, etc...

[BrownEye007]

such an insightful and informative thread
Exactly how I planned it to be

[ace23]

It's just bullshit talk to pass the times man no need to analyze it like a PhD. People just name acts they think others like too much based off of feelings, awards, and album sales, etc...
Idk I just see the shit so much it's annoying seeing people debate over it. People can't decide where everyone's rated yet they want to decide who's over/underrated. :lol

[L.Kizzle]

How can you say someone's overrated when there are no ratings?
You said LL Cool J was overrated.

[ace23]

You said LL Cool J was overrated.
Yeah, that was a couple years ago. I don't say shit like that anymore. I don't care about that shit.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I said he was overrated according to some list you came up with, so yeah I don't change my stance on that. I'd listen to 200+ rappers before him.

[L.Kizzle]

Wayne is actually underrated if anything...anytime his name comes up it is something negative

he has more hits than anyone, has stayed relevant for over a decade now, and has the entire rap industry biting his style and dying to have him featured on their track so they can have radio success

has there been a rap artist out there who has given Wayne any beef?....probably not because they know it would be career suicide, he just has way too much pull


I don't care for Wayne really but like it or not he has been a monster influence on the industry as a whole
Everything you said is what makes Wayne overrated. People aren't getting Wayne to feature on their tracks because he is that damn good. It is because having him spit anything on your song will make it a hit.

Wayne was third in line with Cash Money behind BG and Juvenile.

[L.Kizzle]

Yeah, that was a couple years ago. I don't say shit like that anymore. I don't care about that shit.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I said he was overrated according to some list you came up with, so yeah I don't change my stance on that. I'd listen to 200+ rappers before him.
200+ rappers, get the fck out of here. Bette than Ladies Love ... haha. Take that zero off. :lol

[BrownEye007]

Idk I just see the shit so much it's annoying seeing people debate over it. People can't decide where everyone's rated yet they want to decide who's over/underrated. :lol
There are debates like this about players and teams in the NBA forum all the time. It might just be your own personal opinion but you certainly can decide who's over/underrated based on what other people think compared to what you think.

[plowking]

Jay-Z most definitely. Dude is hard to listen to these days.

Funny to see Drakes name pop up. Dude is underrated if anything. Gets hated on non stop by idiot old school fans who don't like his sound, but facts are he can flow and rhyme a hell of a lot better than many who are apparently considered better than him.

[L.Kizzle]

Jay-Z most definitely. Dude is hard to listen to these days.

Funny to see Drakes name pop up. Dude is underrated if anything. Gets hated on non stop by idiot old school fans who don't like his sound, but facts are he can flow and rhyme a hell of a lot better than many who are apparently considered better than him.
Lol Drake lover.

And overrating Jay Z now is like saying Rakim sucked in 2001. Who cares, he made his name long ago.

[Al Thorton]

all time? anyone pre-2010. currently? nobody. all modern rap slaps, unless it reminds me of older rap

[L.Kizzle]

LL was the Drake of his generation. :coleman:
Don't disrespect Ladies Love like that.

[QUIZZLE]

it's TuPac...you can't find a top-100 or top-10 list without Pac in the top-3 or even #1 overall

the guy gets legend status and he wasn't even a very good lyricist at all...people just love his thug-life persona more than anything



"feeeel me..."

Best flow ever. Pure emotion. Not overrated.

[BrownEye007]

Jay-Z most definitely. Dude is hard to listen to these days.

Funny to see Drakes name pop up. Dude is underrated if anything. Gets hated on non stop by idiot old school fans who don't like his sound, but facts are he can flow and rhyme a hell of a lot better than many who are apparently considered better than him.
It seems like everybody in my area loves Drake. I wish he got hated on more cause I have to here him on everywhere I go and it's kind of like getting stabbed in the ear.

[I Will Not Lose]

A lot of you need to stick to discussing basketball. Do you fools listen to music or just skim through it?

[JohnFreeman]

P Diddy..dude is wack

[kurple]

it's TuPac...you can't find a top-100 or top-10 list without Pac in the top-3 or even #1 overall

the guy gets legend status and he wasn't even a very good lyricist at all...people just love his thug-life persona more than anything



"feeeel me..."
you can go to college an study tupac in norway. him or bob dylan

rap isnt only about complex lyrics and rhymes. cause tupac was far from great there

but his shit was deeper than anyone before or after him.

it's cool to critisize him, but his flow and emotion is #1 and no rapper have ever influenced the society more than Pac.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XrmMaJFDJk

just listen to this song. damn

[kurple]

i get that people dont wanna put pac in their personal top 5. cause people are looking for different things in music

but to call him the most overrated. along dipshits like Jay Z and P.Diddy

get the **** out of here

[Budadiiii]

A lot of you need to stick to discussing basketball. Do you fools listen to music or just skim through it?
Nas username





Posts Jay Z line. I liked your post. Future rep and God bless you!

[JohnFreeman]

[QUOTE=casual_fan]Currently Kanye. Drake and Wayne suck too, but most poeple seem to agree on that, whereas they act like Kanye is some creative genious:banghead:

All time its Nas. I mean he had some good songs in the 90s and is an all right rapper, but I don

[kurple]

kanye is my favorite producer along with Dilla and Primo

but he's easily the worst rapper of our time

and lol @ nas. illmatic is one of the best ALBUMS of all time

[casual_fan]

You lost me at "some" homie.

Alright, might have exaggerated a little. While I don

[plowking]

Anyone that labels Kanye as a top rapper needs to be shot. Dude is flat out terrible.
Good producer, but even there, his shit is so heavily sample based... that at times its too much.

[plowking]

Lol Drake lover.

And overrating Jay Z now is like saying Rakim sucked in 2001. Who cares, he made his name long ago.

I listen to Drake's music, but even objectively, his flow and lyrics are better than so many rappers that people here claim to be better.

[The-Legend-24]

:oldlol: @ the nikkas putting Ye and Drake, both are underrated rappers if anything, not to mention have better discographies than the "good" ones.

[kurple]

please tell me how Ye is a good RAPPER and not musician

[kurple]

[QUOTE=casual_fan]Alright, might have exaggerated a little. While I don

[JohnFreeman]

please tell me how Ye is a good RAPPER and not musician
He is dope

[andgar923]

He is dope

You guys do know that most of Ye's shit is ghostwritten right?

Ye is average at best.

[JohnFreeman]

You guys do know that most of Ye's shit is ghostwritten right?

Ye is average at best.
Subjective, Ye is my favourite :confusedshrug:

[andremiller07]

99% of rappers now are gay and overrated

[JohnFreeman]

99% of rappers now are gay and overrated
http://missjia.com/images/2012/12/TrinidadJames_.gif

[casual_fan]

God's Son and the album with damian marley were great as well

Just looked again at the god

[plowking]

Subjective, Ye is my favourite :confusedshrug:

Music is subjective to a point. Kanye struggles to stay on beat, can't rhyme as well as other rappers, doesn't have as good a flow, and his songs are at times full of terrible puns and wordplay. That part isn't subjective.

I like listening to LIL B at times, but I'm not going to come on here and claim hes a better rapper than someone I don't like listening to if they are clearly better.

Kanye's lucky hes as good as a producer as he is, or at least considered so by most people, because his beats carry him. His delivery and rapping is terrible, by industry standards, and he should be thankful people today like his over sampled beats, because they're about the only thing that make him relevant in music.

[East_Stone_Ya]

[QUOTE=casual_fan]Just looked again at the god

[casual_fan]

you ethered yourself kiddo :facepalm

Can

[OhNoTimNoSho]

Nothing is more annoying that reading a persons post trashing a rapper when clearly they haven't listened to more than a few songs by them. And also not understand things like mic presence, charisma, delivery, subject matter etc..


You guys dont know shit

[Kblaze8855]

Pacs status is far beyond his average songs greatness but a lot of that is poor beat selection early and having to go thug life late. He never hit what should have been his prime. Me against the world Pac was great....he puts that style with better beats it would have been amazing.

Jay...I don't see overrated. Maybe his radio singles at times. But Dynasty intro? Can I live? U don't know? Momma love me? Most of American Gangster? Jay rips his "real" songs.

[Kblaze8855]

And Nas is an all right rapper to some? If NY state of mind, Hip Hop(with scarface), Halftime, Lifes a bitch, Leaders, The Carter 4 interlude, I gave you power, The world is yours, and so on just gets you all right...who is great?

[casual_fan]

And Nas is an all right rapper to some? If NY state of mind, Hip Hop(with scarface), Halftime, Lifes a bitch, Leaders, The Carter 4 interlude, I gave you power, The world is yours, and so on just gets you all right...who is great?

Off the top of my head : Biggie, Jay-z. Tupac and Ice Cube should all be considered better. Just the ones that got a comparable legacy, there are dozens who are more enjoyable to me.

I know it is an unpopular opinion, but too me Nas is Kind of one- dimensional : his lyrics are great, but his flow is always the same and he is nether charismatic or conveys emotions in his Music.

[Flash31]

currently----Lil Wayne,Nicki Minaj,Drake or Eminem

ALL TIME---EMINEM

[tpols]

anyone that says eminem is retarded.. his rapping/writing/freestyling skills are all time great

[Kblaze8855]

Its fine if you don't like him. Up to you. It just seems hard to justify calling Nas all right....

There must be 2000 rappers who will never match the worst verse on illmatic.

Far as the flow...he speeds it up at times he just rarely picks tracks that justify it. Not that he needs to.

I don't care if you don't like him. Just seems like calling him ok is like calling Kobe or Jerry West ok. Best ever? Maybe not. But ok/all right is more like....Corliss Williamson. Hell he might be better than that himself.

[CelticBaller]

anyone that says eminem is retarded.. his rapping/writing/freestyling skills are all time great
Eminem is horrible right now, he has to put out songs with rihanna to get radio time yet all his fanboys still claim he's the best currently :facepalm

and i like Eminem, he's one of the greatest but right now he is just a shell of shady

[BrownEye007]

Eminem is horrible right now, he has to put out songs with rihanna to get radio time yet all his fanboys still claim he's the best currently :facepalm

and i like Eminem, he's one of the greatest but right now he is just a shell of shady
I don't think he's the best right now but I do think he's top 5 right now. Monster is a disgrace of a song and Stronger Than I Was is to slow for my liking. The rest of his new album is pretty solid though. Just gotta get over sub-par choruses.

[atljonesbro]

Most Overrated Today: Kendrick Lamar

Most Overrated Ever: Tupac

I honestly don't understand what people look for in lyrics to consider it good. Listening to Los, one of his average verses is better than Kendricks very best. It's so utterly obvious but I guess people just buy into the hype.

[tmacattack33]

Eminem is horrible right now, he has to put out songs with rihanna to get radio time yet all his fanboys still claim he's the best currently :facepalm

and i like Eminem, he's one of the greatest but right now he is just a shell of shady

And that is the fault of the current state of the radio, not eminem.

[Jackass18]

200+ rappers, get the fck out of here. Bette than Ladies Love ... haha. Take that zero off. :lol

It comes down to personal preference. LL has some nice tracks, but there is a lot of other rappers I'd also rather listen to before him, but not 200+ like him. His '80s stuff should be pretty damn nostalgic to me, but I just don't feel it that much. He only has a handful of songs I would even bother with:

Rock the Bells
The Boomin' System
Mama Said Knock You Out
Doin' It
and that 4, 3, 2, 1 collab (Hit 'Em High was alright)
Around the Way Girl is nostalgic, but I don't feel it that much

Also, that Canibus line usually pops into my mind when LL comes up - "While 99% of your fans wear high heels"

[tpols]

makes really wack songs though, which is pretty important

but does he make the most wackest??

[The Iron Fist]

care to say why?

because his rhymes were simpe (compared to rappers like rakim and kool G)

pac is the goat rapper. i dont care what anyone says. dude was more than just rap, he wanted to change the world
:rolleyes: Yea, by talking about killing another man.

[kurple]

Most Overrated Today: Kendrick Lamar

Most Overrated Ever: Tupac

I honestly don't understand what people look for in lyrics to consider it good. Listening to Los, one of his average verses is better than Kendricks very best. It's so utterly obvious but I guess people just buy into the hype.
wow

just wow

kendrick is a mastermind lyrically. and i'm not even that big a fan (loved section80)

[kurple]

:rolleyes: Yea, by talking about killing another man.
do you mean biggie`?

pac was a human, and had human emotions. anger being one of them. why not express that trough his music? it's not like thats all he ever rapped about

[atljonesbro]

wow

just wow

kendrick is a mastermind lyrically. and i'm not even that big a fan (loved section80)
Not really. Never been wowed by any of his stuff. Technically he's not all that great. IMO above average schemes, above average flow, mediocre word play, weak punch lines, overly reliant on near rhymes, and an awful rap voice.

He's just not the type who's ever gonna murder a track or come with crazy bars

[iggy>]

Ghostface killah is garbage.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Rakim is really underated IMO.

[plowking]

Not really. Never been wowed by any of his stuff. Technically he's not all that great. IMO above average schemes, above average flow, mediocre word play, weak punch lines, overly reliant on near rhymes, and an awful rap voice.

He's just not the type who's ever gonna murder a track or come with crazy bars

Technically, hes brilliant, his punch lines and word play are top notch and way over peoples heads. Might be the best ever in regards to word play.

"Every time I write these words, they become a taboo/Making sure my punctuation curve, every letter is true/Living my life in the margin and that metaphor was proof"

That right there from Poetic Justice has to be some of the sickest writing in rap ever.

[L.Kizzle]

Technically, hes brilliant, his punch lines and word play are top notch and way over peoples heads. Might be the best ever in regards to word play.

"Every time I write these words, they become a taboo/Making sure my punctuation curve, every letter is true/Living my life in the margin and that metaphor was proof"

That right there from Poetic Justice has to be some of the sickest writing in rap ever.
Is that the only rap song you've ever heard?

[atljonesbro]

Technically, hes brilliant, his punch lines and word play are top notch and way over peoples heads. Might be the best ever in regards to word play.

"Every time I write these words, they become a taboo/Making sure my punctuation curve, every letter is true/Living my life in the margin and that metaphor was proof"

That right there from Poetic Justice has to be some of the sickest writing in rap ever.
I disagree. Like I said, I'm never really wowed by anything he spits. Maybe because I feel like Los is on another level compared to him in every category. Los will have bars like that on the regular.

[Black and White]

Technically, hes brilliant, his punch lines and word play are top notch and way over peoples heads. Might be the best ever in regards to word play.

"Every time I write these words, they become a taboo/Making sure my punctuation curve, every letter is true/Living my life in the margin and that metaphor was proof"

That right there from Poetic Justice has to be some of the sickest writing in rap ever.

Lupe spits harder than Kendrick Lamar does. Some of the sickest bars I have heard are from his songs

[plowking]

Lupe spits harder than Kendrick Lamar does. Some of the sickest bars I have heard are from his songs

Lupe has nothing that can compare to that line right there. Lupe is so average. The only decent thing hes done in recent times was his response to Kendrick's verse.

That line is wordplay on wordplay lol...

[plowking]

Is that the only rap song you've ever heard?

Your only response on most topics is hyperbole and exaggeration. Can't take anything you say seriously especially when you consider average ABC type rappers better than some legends.

I mean, you actually think Chubb Rock is better than Biggie. :oldlol:
In fact, I'm not sure you do. You probably say a lot of this shit just to get a kick.

Fact is, that is some of the best wordplay in hip hop, and you'd be hard pressed to find better writing than that.

[Rameek]

Kanye
Drake
Wayne
Hova
Guru
Nas
WAyne
Guru with Premier you crazy.... Nas lmao, Hova made music to sell after the first 3 albums. All the others I can see.


Ghostface killah is garbage.
You should have your ears fillet mignon for saying something so sacrilidge!

Supreme Clientele is a top 10 ALBUM of all time. I would say top 5 personally. I count on my hands how many hip hop albums where every song is fire. This is one. I do understand that most 85erz dont understand the GOD language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E62gjd7PKCg&list=PL55086AB3CE6BE133

[Akrazotile]

You should have your ears fillet mignon for saying something so sacrilidge!

Supreme Clientele is a top 10 ALBUM of all time. I would say top 5 personally. I count on my hands how many hip hop albums where every song is fire. This is one. I do understand that most 85erz dont understand the GOD language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E62gjd7PKCg&list=PL55086AB3CE6BE133


The dude posts that nonsense in practically every rap thread. Is either purposely trolling, hearing impaired, or got dissed by ghostface for an autograph years ago.

[KobesFinger]

Technically, hes brilliant, his punch lines and word play are top notch and way over peoples heads. Might be the best ever in regards to word play.

"Every time I write these words, they become a taboo/Making sure my punctuation curve, every letter is true/Living my life in the margin and that metaphor was proof"

That right there from Poetic Justice has to be some of the sickest writing in rap ever.

Stuff like that is why people find him overrated

[kurple]

but he is

[plowking]

Stuff like that is why people find him overrated

That's a cop out reply.

People like that can't justify their opinion, so they go for the easy answer. Its like saying Ali was overrated, and MJ, and Woods, etc just because they're called the best.

That line right there is fire, and is in no way overrated. If you're a fan of rap, you can't not appreciate that line. In fact, if you're a fan of poetry or great writing for that matter, you can't not appreciate that. That line is flat out clever to the highest degree.

[CelticBaller]

lol @ Kendrick being overrated :oldlol:

[atljonesbro]

lol @ Kendrick being overrated :oldlol:
I personally think he is. He seems so dry and basic. Nothing really stand out from a lyrical stand point. He can spit "real shit" but so can every other rapper in existence. He just doesn't come heavy enough with the bars on his songs.

[Rasheed1]

Ghostface killah is garbage.


:lol you're an idiot

[Kblaze8855]

2 things...

Kendrick is one of the best rappers ever. Just depends how far you stretch "One of the best". Put him on a song with anyone he can hold his own. He would outrap most. This is another example of someone being offended by new people being ranked highly.

He isnt the best ever or anything...but he can hang with some who are in the conversation just verse for verse. Also...



Lupe is so average.

Cmon now....

No average rapper ever made a song this good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll9c1S3d_v4


If I had to play one song for someone who doesnt respect rappers as artists id have to consider that one. I might not pick it....but its under consideration.

[SilkkTheShocker]

it's TuPac...you can't find a top-100 or top-10 list without Pac in the top-3 or even #1 overall

the guy gets legend status and he wasn't even a very good lyricist at all...people just love his thug-life persona more than anything



"feeeel me..."

Such a stupid ass myth. Made famous by Biggie fanboys, especially.

Pac is the best ever.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Jay-Z post Reasonable Doubt

Vol. 1 is the shit.

The Blueprint is one of the of the most overrated rap albums ever though.

[Kblaze8855]

You could give the blueprint 11 good songs and 6 classics. No less than 4 classics. Not many albums can say that.

[D-FENS]

Drake. He's a little Jewish wannabe tough guy ******

[Rasheed1]

You could give the blueprint 11 good songs and 6 classics. No less than 4 classics. Not many albums can say that.

At least 4 classic songs

The Takeover
Izzo
Girls,Girls,Girls
Rengade

Those are just the undisputed classics.. I would add Never Change & Hola Hovito

[SilkkTheShocker]

I just never cared for Blueprint. RD, Vol. 1/2/3, Black Album, etc are more enjoyable to listen to imo.

[Kblaze8855]

I had to include Never change, song cry, Takeover, and Momma Loves Me. Momma Loves me gets overlooked to me. So simple but ill be listening to it forever. Played it a while back and like 8 people in the room all knew it word for word.

"Momma loved me...pops left me...grandma dressed me...plus she fed me. Banana pudding...was in the hood then...puffin on Ls drinking pink champale..."

I always like that Jay more than the "You cant even understand how rich I am...." Jay.

[L.Kizzle]

Your only response on most topics is hyperbole and exaggeration. Can't take anything you say seriously especially when you consider average ABC type rappers better than some legends.

I mean, you actually think Chubb Rock is better than Biggie. :oldlol:
In fact, I'm not sure you do. You probably say a lot of this shit just to get a kick.

Fact is, that is some of the best wordplay in hip hop, and you'd be hard pressed to find better writing than that.
Who's an average ABC type of rapper, Chubb Rock? :lol

[Rasheed1]

Who's an average ABC type of rapper, Chubb Rock? :lol


Chubb Rock wasn't a weak rapper.. I don't agree that he was better than Biggie, but he wasn't a slouch

he put together some good sh*t.. I just think it wasn't unique or noticeable enough to get him the popularity that biggie got..

[plowking]

Who's an average ABC type of rapper, Chubb Rock? :lol

Once again, you take things out of context, and use exaggerate.

Notice how its a separate paragraph? Its separate to the issue, that's why.
Chubb Rock being better than Biggie is just an example of your BS, not the case of calling an average ABC rapper better than most legends, although I have seen you make certain assertions of that kind on here.

EDIT: And you still haven't found a piece of writing in rap that can match or exceed that wordplay. It is one of the illest lines in hip hop.

[LosScandalous]

All time: Eazy-E and RZA

Currently: SchoolBoy Q aka the Tony Yayo of TDE

[andgar923]

Guru with Premier you crazy.... Nas lmao, Hova made music to sell after the first 3 albums. All the others I can see.


I was (and still am to some degree) a Nas STAN.

I used to rank him at the number 1 spot all the time, just like many 'hip hop heads'.

But most of my and most people's appreciation of Nas lays on his first two albums.

Before we go on further let me break shit down a bit....

Im not saying that Nas hasn't made great albums after Illmatic and IWW, nor am I saying that he hasn't had classic hits either. What I want to address is how his skills have deteriorated after his first two albums. He's been wildly inconsistent when it comes to the 'skill' aspect.

The man was the epitome of hip hop in his prime. Flow, delivery, rhyming, storytelling, you name it he was a damn near perfect 10. But it appeared he started to get lazy bit by bit. His delivery tends to be boring on many tracks, his flow is at times non existent as he just sputters lines with no connection or rhythm, his rhyming appears to last a line and then disappears for most of his songs.

Even then, his lyrics which are his trump card, haven't been as amazing. But even his good lyrics still fall short when you look at the whole picture and see how he lacks in delivery, flow, rhyming cadence, etc.etc.

Nas used to be a rapper's rapper, a technical savant, legendary for being a near perfect in every category while in his prime. He's better than an average rapper that's for sure, and still better than damn near every rapper today. And he still has enough to be as good as the best rappers. But as the GOAT rapper (or top 5) where many list him as is no mo.

Black Thought has had a long career himself, and has been more consistent. Not saying that he's better than Nas, I simply want to highlight how staying consistent is possible.

Common on the other hand.....

No comment.

Honestly, Im a huge Preem stan. I visit his unofficial blog all the time to keep up with his latest. But on the real..... most of the people he's work with are overrated.

Jeru is overrated (no flow, rhyming)
Guru is just average... dope voice, but nothing else is special

Preemo simply makes beats that make artists stand out.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Kanye West
Drake

Whoever says Eminem is a plain retard.
hes the best lyrically:coleman:

[dyna]

Jay Z

[G-Funk]

All time: Eazy-E and RZA

Currently: SchoolBoy Q aka the Tony Yayo of TDE


Yayo is nowhere near Q's level, other than 5O cent all G-unit sh*t is trash. TDE>>>>G-Unit

[G-Funk]

lol @ Kendrick being overrated :oldlol:
:oldlol:

[G-Funk]

Most Overrated Today: Kendrick Lamar

Most Overrated Ever: Tupac

I honestly don't understand what people look for in lyrics to consider it good. Listening to Los, one of his average verses is better than Kendricks very best. It's so utterly obvious but I guess people just buy into the hype.
:facepalm

[BrownEye007]

Yayo is nowhere near Q's level, other than 5O cent all G-unit sh*t is trash. TDE>>>>G-Unit
Like 50 cent isn't trash too :roll:

[TheReturn]

Lupe has nothing that can compare to that line right there. Lupe is so average. The only decent thing hes done in recent times was his response to Kendrick's verse.

That line is wordplay on wordplay lol...
Have you heard Food and Liquor and The Cool? GOAT lyricist as far as those two albums go.

[Shabba Ranks]

[QUOTE=casual_fan]Currently Kanye. Drake and Wayne suck too, but most poeple seem to agree on that, whereas they act like Kanye is some creative genious:banghead:

All time its Nas. I mean he had some good songs in the 90s and is an all right rapper, but I don

[BrownEye007]

Have you heard Food and Liquor and The Cool? GOAT lyricist as far as those two albums go.
Lupe and Kendrick are two of my favorite rappers. I think Lupe has the better lyrics and voice but Kendrick is better at everything else. On another note money trees by Kendrick is possibly the most overrated rap song of all time. I couldn't stand it to the point that I just took it off my iPod.

[G-Funk]

Like 50 cent isn't trash too :roll:

he's not

[Kblaze8855]

Banks raps circles around 50

[PHX_Phan]

Jay-Z. He used all the hype he was given to hype himself even more. None of his albums are deserving of where most people rank him, and his music since then is not only not good, it's not even listenable.

Currently I'd put Macklemore. He's on that white rapper mainstream level of success and his music is nothing special.

[GOBB]

Most overrated rapper currently - Lil Wayne
Most overrated rapper all time - Lil Wayne

[CAstill]

People saying Pac need to quit listening to rap lol.

Currently : Kendrick
I agree that Los>>>K.Dot

All time : Andre 3000

He's really good but some put him as the GOAT and that is a HELL NO!