dwyane wade vs jerry west

[mehyaM24]

jerry west: great jumpshot, great defense and arguably the most clutch player of his era. won finals MVP in 1969 and a ring in 1972. he didnt win an mvp but finished second in MVP voting three times top three 5 times top five 8 times top ten 9 times. imo, the logo was a more productive player (better in crunchtime, better shooter, defender, and passer).maybe not as flashy as wade....but a better team basketball player....

wade: inconsistent jumpshot, always injured, lazy, and peaked too early. the only thing wade had on west is his handle. he won a title in 06 and was finals mvp but many feel that series was rigged. the other 2 titles he was lebron james' sidekick.

my all time guards:
jordan
kobe
west
1A drexler
1B wade

[LeGOAT]

jerry west: great jumpshot, great defense and arguably the most clutch player of his era. won finals MVP in 1969 and a ring in 1972. he didnt win an mvp but finished second in MVP voting three times top three 5 times top five 8 times top ten 9 times. imo, the logo was a more productive player (better in crunchtime, better shooter, defender, and passer).maybe not as flashy as wade....but a better team basketball player....

wade: inconsistent jumpshot, always injured, lazy, and peaked too early. the only thing wade had on west is his handle. he won a title in 06 and was finals mvp but many feel that series was rigged. the other 2 titles he was lebron james' sidekick.

my all time guards:
jordan
kobe
west
1A drexler
1B wade
:roll: :roll: :roll: :coleman:

[sammichoffate]

:biggums: Um...If you're going to do an actual comparison, don't make your bias so transparent.

[aj1987]

jerry west: great jumpshot, great defense and arguably the most clutch player of his era. won finals MVP in 1969 and a ring in 1972. he didnt win an mvp but finished second in MVP voting three times top three 5 times top five 8 times top ten 9 times. imo, the logo was a more productive player (better in crunchtime, better shooter, defender, and passer).maybe not as flashy as wade....but a better team basketball player....

wade: inconsistent jumpshot, always injured, lazy, and peaked too early. the only thing wade had on west is his handle. he won a title in 06 and was finals mvp but many feel that series was rigged. the other 2 titles he was lebron james' sidekick.
Even Mav's fans give props to Wade and the Heat for winning. It's only idiots who try to discredit him, by constantly crying about the refs.

Also, did you just call Wade lazy? :facepalm


my all time guards:
jordan
kobe
west
1A drexler
1B wade


:facepalm

[mehyaM24]

:biggums: Um...If you're going to do an actual comparison, don't make your bias so transparent.

everyone is bias to a degree. i forgot to add that wade is a better finisher, which makes the gap between the 2 closer.

feel free to disagree

[LAZERUSS]

West > Wade.

[red1]

god damn

[sammichoffate]

everyone is bias to a degree. i forgot to add that wade is a better finisher, which makes the gap between the 2 closer.

feel free to disagreeYour description makes him seem like some 2nd rate scrub. He's only been injured in the last couple of years, yet you insist on putting that in your description of him.

[aj1987]

West > Wade.
Career wise? Without a doubt. As players? Wade would absolutely destroy West.

[mehyaM24]

Your description makes him seem like some 2nd rate scrub. He's only been injured in the last couple of years, yet you insist on putting that in your description of him.

he was injured for half of 2007, almost all 0f 2008, 2009 playoffs, some of 2010, 2012 and 2013.....even this year hes supposedly playing injured....

reason i labeled him "lazy" is because he sits out every other game, and the games he does decide to play, lebron is doing all the heavy lifting. not only that, but his game never really evolved. wade is still the same 2bit player he was in 2006, just less athletic.

[red1]

he was injured for half of 2007, almost all 0f 2008, 2009 playoffs, some of 2010, 2012 and 2013.....even this year hes supposedly playing injured....

reason i labeled him "lazy" is because he sits out every other game, and the games he does decide to play, lebron is doing all the heavy lifting. not only that, but his game never really evolved. wade is still the same 2bit player he was in 2006, just less athletic.
you are quickly climbing the retard ranks here

[aj1987]

reason i labeled him "lazy" is because he sits out every other game, and the games he does decide to play, lebron is doing all the heavy lifting. not only that, but his game never really evolved. wade is still the same 2bit player he was in 2006, just less athletic.
You're retarded. It's the Heat's plan to rest him all these games to keep him fresh for the PO's. It's not up to Wade. Trying to disparage players to prop up your man crush is absolutely scummy.

[sammichoffate]

he was injured for half of 2007, almost all 0f 2008, 2009 playoffs, some of 2010, 2012 and 2013.....even this year hes supposedly playing injured....

reason i labeled him "lazy" is because he sits out every other game, and the games he does decide to play, lebron is doing all the heavy lifting. not only that, but his game never really evolved. wade is still the same 2bit player he was in 2006, just less athletic.Those injuries were the result of his style of play though, the ones he has now are chronic or lingering from surgeries. I can't think of too many players with that style of play who don't get injured (Rose, AI, Parker). You can't assume that he's lazy because you don't know if he does it on purpose or not. All you have to gauge him on is his on-court performance. Um, i seem to recall him changing his style of play when a certain someone came to South Beach. Is that not his game evolving?

[mehyaM24]

and the games he does play? dude is flat out lazy. noticed you ignored the part where i said his game never evolved too. truth hurts, hence the insults.

[aj1987]

and the games he does play? dude is flat out lazy. noticed you ignored the part where i said his game never evolved too. truth hurts, hence the insults.
Didn't evolve? Dude has one of the best post games in the league. He has been incredible from mid-range (43.7%) this season, and has become one of the best off-ball players over the past 3-4 years. :facepalm

Posters like you is one of the reason why LeBron is hated on this forum.

[sammichoffate]

Didn't evolve? Dude has one of the best post games in the league. He has been incredible from mid-range (43.7%) this season, and has become one of the best off-ball players over the past 3-4 years. :facepalm

Posters like you is one of the reason why LeBron is hated on this forum.I'm not even sure he read my post :lol

[mehyaM24]

Didn't evolve? Dude has one of the best post games in the league. He has been incredible from mid-range (43.7%) this season, and has become one of the best off-ball players over the past 3-4 years. :facepalm

Posters like you is one of the reason why LeBron is hated on this forum.

:oldlol: at his "43.7%" from midrange. we gonna act like he hasnt always been shit from midrange? wade is a weak shooter. and i will bump this thread with stats in the playoffs.

[Milbuck]

:oldlol: Why is this idiot still allowed to post threads?

[mehyaM24]

just last season:

38% from midrange
29% from 3PT

LMAO

[houston]

wade of course

[Andrei89]

OP is worse than a million Bin Ladens.

[sammichoffate]

:oldlol: Why is this idiot still allowed to post threads?idk but i'm outta here :cheers:

[aj1987]

:oldlol: at his "43.7" from midrange. we gonna act like he hasnt always been shit from midrange? wade is a weak shooter. and i will bump this thread with stats in the playoffs.
You do know that Wade has almost always been and is still better than LeBron from mid-range (better than LeBron in '05, '06, '07, '08, '09, and '14)? Wade is also a much better post and off-ball player than LeBron. Are we gonna start labeling LeBron as a lazy player now?

[mehyaM24]

You do know that Wade has almost always been and is still better than LeBron from mid-range (better than LeBron in '05, '06, '07, '08, '09, and '14)? Wade is also a much better post and off-ball player than LeBron. Are we gonna start labeling LeBron as a lazy player now?

what are you talking about? wade gets open looks because of lebrons defensive attention. last year, in a full season, lebron shot better from midrange and 3PT(and the year before that...same thing in 2011). lebron has always been a better 3PT and FT shooter.

post wades 2013 playoff stats and tell me with a straight face, lebron doesnt carry him :oldlol:

[DaSeba5]

This thread gave me cancer. I hope you are happy.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Wade with polio is a better player than prime West.

[Nuff Said]

Trying to put bias aside, I've watched many west games and clips and I honestly just can't buy into the hype. His play just seems horrible but I mean I have to respect the stats. Dude was a beast. But the "eye test" fails me on this one. As much as I want to, I just can't jump on the bandwagon with West. I wonder how his game would translate if he grew up in a more modern era.

[JohnFreeman]

OP hates Wade for some reason

[aj1987]

what are you talking about? wade gets open looks because of lebrons defensive attention. last year, in a full season, lebron shot better from midrange and 3PT(and the year before that...same thing in 2011). lebron has always been a better 3PT and FT shooter.

post wades 2013 playoff stats and tell me with a straight face, lebron doesnt carry him :oldlol:
What the **** are you even talking about? Wade had one of the GOAT SG seasons in '09 and shot a higher percentage from the mid-range than LeBron EVER did. Wade's mid-range game fell off, after LeBron came to the Heat because Wade started playing more off-ball and in the post.

[tpols]

What the **** are you even talking about? Wade had one of the GOAT SG seasons in '09 and shot a higher percentage from the mid-range than LeBron EVER did. Wade's mid-range game fell off, after LeBron came to the Heat because Wade started playing more off-ball and in the post.

that might be why theyre calling Wade lazy.. he had the skill but didnt maintain it. Bran's just never been a great shooter.. post player hes alright to pretty good.

I think Wade's just too injured to practice extra.. he cant be working on his shot all the time if his knees swollen and he has to ice and rest it in between games.

[GrapeApe]

It's funny how he singles out Wade's 2013 playoffs when his career playoff numbers are 24/5/5/2/1 on good efficiency. Even last year while injured he had some big moments, particularly in the finals. He should have just included the word "agenda" in the thread title.

[LAZERUSS]

Career wise? Without a doubt. As players? Wade would absolutely destroy West.

West routinely torched the 6-4 (and taller) Walt Frazier, who was every bit as talented as Wade. I don't see him having any more problems with Wade.

[SamuraiSWISH]

1) MJ
2) Kobe
3) West
4) Wade
5) Drexler

[aj1987]

West routinely torched the 6-4 (and taller) Walt Frazier, who was every bit as talented as Wade. I don't see him having any more problems with Wade.
Come on, bro. Walt is great player and as far as West goes, he's better than Wade, when it comes to careers, but neither are as good as him. Comparing Walt to Wade is just an insult to Wade. Wade, over his 10 year career, averages 25 PPG. Significantly more than what Walt averaged his his highest PPG season.

Wade is an elite post and off-ball player. He's (prime-peak) extremely quick as well. One of the quickest 2-guards EVER and one of the best slashers the game has ever seen. The only thing that he doesn't have in his arsenal is a consistent 3pt shot.

Peak Wade was also one of the best help and man-to-man defenders at his position. I remember seeing his clutch defensive stats somewhere (will post them here if I find them), and dude was top 5 in the league. On par with the elite defensive centers and forwards. Much better than any other guard.

[LAZERUSS]

Come on, bro. Walt is great player and as far as West goes, he's better than Wade, when it comes to careers, but neither are as good as him. Comparing Walt to Wade is just an insult to Wade. Wade, over his 10 year career, averages 25 PPG. Significantly more than what Walt averaged his his highest PPG season.

Wade is an elite post and off-ball player. He's (prime-peak) extremely quick as well. One of the quickest 2-guards EVER and one of the best slashers the game has ever seen. The only thing that he doesn't have in his arsenal is a consistent 3pt shot.

Peak Wade was also one of the best help and man-to-man defenders at his position. I remember seeing his clutch defensive stats somewhere (will post them here if I find them), and dude was top 5 in the league. On par with the elite defensive centers and forwards. Much better than any other guard.

Frazier was an ELITE defensive guard. One of the greatest ever. And he was probably taller, and longer, than Wade.

And West's scoring in both the regular season, and post-season, just blows Wade's away...and that's including his last couple of seasons. And his shooting, against league average, in both, was superior.

West was a superior shooter, as great a driver, a better passer, at least his equal defensively, and even more "clutch." I would take a prime West over a prime Wade any day of the week.

[aj1987]

Frazier was an ELITE defensive guard. One of the greatest ever. And he was probably taller, and longer, than Wade.
No doubt that Walt was elite defensively. The was a great player as I said previously. He is much smaller than Wade, when it comes to size. Wade was almost 235 last season. That's why he bullies smaller SF's in the paint.


And West's scoring in both the regular season, and post-season, just blows Wade's away...and that's including his last couple of seasons. And his shooting, against league average, in both, was superior.
West took 3 shots and 1 FT more than Wade to average only 3 points more than Wade. West averaged a ridiculous number of FT's. People complain about Wade, Kobe, MJ, LeBron, etc. getting a tremendous amount of FT's, but Wade trumps them all.


West was a superior shooter, as great a driver, a better passer, at least his equal defensively, and even more "clutch." I would take a prime West over a prime Wade any day of the week.
:roll: @ West being in the same universe, compared to Wade, when it comes to driving and defense. Have you actually seen West's videos? If people were to create Wade's highlight videos, he might just be considered a top 13 GOAT player. West in todays league would be abused so bad, they he'd quit and go to the EL after a week in the NBA.

People LOVE to talk about West's 40 PPG playoff run, but they forget that he took 31 shots and 14 FT's PER GAME. In the Plauoffs, he averaged 29 PPG on 23 shots and 10 FT's a game. Wade? 24 on 18 and 8? All this while playing against much better competition.

Don't forget that I'm not even bringing up the higher pace that players in the '60's played at.

[mehyaM24]

What the **** are you even talking about? Wade had one of the GOAT SG seasons in '09 and shot a higher percentage from the mid-range than LeBron EVER did. Wade's mid-range game fell off, after LeBron came to the Heat because Wade started playing more off-ball and in the post.

?

wade's highest percent from midrange is 44%. lebron's is 48%(2012).

idiot

[aj1987]

http://i.imgur.com/ydykGcr.png



You seriously need to STFU and leave this thread. The above picture is LeBron's mid-range game from the '12 season.

[mehyaM24]

aj87 = low iq poster. lmfao

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01/shooting/2012/
midrange: 48%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01/shooting/2009/
midrange: 44%

[aj1987]

aj87 = low iq poster. lmfao

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01/shooting/2012/
midrange: 48%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01/shooting/2009/
midrange: 44%
Dude, we've go like 10 posters in here calling you complete retard. Please, do yourself and us a favor by leaving and never returning.

Also:


http://i.imgur.com/ydykGcr.png

[mehyaM24]

you posting that chart means what? just look at the links i posted. thats cold hard data. again: bron 48% from midrange. wade 44% from midrange.

smh at this low iq ape

[aj1987]

you posting that chart means what? just look at the links i posted. thats cold hard data. again: bron 48% from midrange. wade 44% from midrange.

smh at this low iq ape
I don't even know why I'm bothering with you. The picture I posted is from the official NBA website (nba.com) and it clearly shows LeBron's % from the mid-range during the '12 season.

[CavaliersFTW]

Career wise? Without a doubt. As players? Wade would absolutely destroy West.
You've got it backwards, West was out for blood every time he played, his competitive drive is up there with Bill Rusell, MJ etc.. that's why a white guy with a crude looking one-hand biased handle absolutely eviscerated every guard he ever went up against well into the 70's in an increasingly black and athletic NBA. West would destroy Wade 1 on 1 or 5 on 5 on competitive drive alone. Kobe understands, Kobe talks about Jordan and West like they're on the same tier of competitiveness, because they are, Wade isn't that level of competitor.

[mehyaM24]

I don't even know why I'm bothering with you. The picture I posted is from the official NBA website (nba.com) and it clearly shows LeBron's % from the mid-range during the '12 season.

thats not midrange. 10-16 feet is. basketball ref and 82 games have been keeping track of this longer than the "nba website".

[aj1987]

You've got it backwards, West was out for blood every time he played, his competitive drive is up there with Bill Rusell, MJ etc.. that's why a white guy with a crude looking one-hand biased handle absolutely eviscerated every guard he ever went up against well into the 70's in an increasingly black and athletic NBA. West would destroy Wade 1 on 1 or 5 on 5 on competitive drive alone. Kobe understands, Kobe talks about Jordan and West like they're on the same tier of competitiveness, because they are, Wade isn't that level of competitor.
I would definitely take the guy who doesn't need to look at the ball while dribbling over a guy who does. Don't you have a 16 minute video of West's career highlights? I can make a similar video using only 2-3 games from Wade's career to show how great of a player he is. West's competition from the '60's and '70's pales in comparison to the competition that Wade faced. Peak West wouldn't have a chance against current Wade.

Wade, in his head-to-head's agains the 2nd best SG EVER and a top 10 GOAT, performed on par over better then him in their matchups. Wade would absolutely destroy West, to the point that West would quit in-between the game.

Have you ever seen Wade play? Stop being such a hipster ****** and try to deal with the fact that there are players today, who would destroy the players from the '60's.

@mehyaM24, STFU.

[SHAQisGOAT]

I would definitely take the guy who doesn't need to look at the ball while dribbling over a guy who does. Don't you have a 16 minute video of West's career highlights? I can make a similar video using only 2-3 games from Wade's career to show how great of a player he is. West's competition from the '60's and '70's pales in comparison to the competition that Wade faced. Peak West wouldn't have a chance against current Wade.

Wade, in his head-to-head's agains the 2nd best SG EVER and a top 10 GOAT, performed on par over better then him in their matchups. Wade would absolutely destroy West, to the point that West would quit in-between the game.

Have you ever seen Wade play? Stop being such a hipster ****** and try to deal with the fact that there are players today, who would destroy the players from the '60's.

@mehyaM24, STFU.

:roll:

:facepalm

[aj1987]

Inb4 the nostalgic hipster bandwagon. Every player from the '60's/'70's >>>>>>>>> current players. West would destroy Wade 1 on 1, Wilt would make Shaq his bitch, Dr. J would sodomize LeBron, etc. Heck, according to some people, Thurmond would be a top 3 player today. :roll:

[SHAQisGOAT]

Inb4 the nostalgic hipster bandwagon. Every player from the '60's/'70's >>>>>>>>> current players. West would destroy Wade 1 on 1, Wilt would make Shaq his bitch, Dr. J would sodomize LeBron, etc. Heck, according to some people, Thurmond would be a top 3 player today. :roll:

Yea, nobody said that :rolleyes: Stop reaching. You're just acting mad now.

[aj1987]

Yea, nobody said that :rolleyes: Stop reaching. You're just acting mad now.
Not mad at all. It definitely is annoying to read posts from people like CavsFTW, Lazers, etc, which say that West would destroy Wade 1 on 1. I did say that West is an al time great. Top 15 at WORST. Wade is not even close (even though he has better career accomplishments). Wade is top 18-24. However, from the footage that I've seen of his, he doesn't stand a chance against players like Wade and Kobe.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Not mad at all. It definitely is annoying to read posts from people like CavsFTW, Lazers, etc, which say that West would destroy Wade 1 on 1. I did say that West is an al time great. Top 15 at WORST. Wade is not even close (even though he has better career accomplishments). Wade is top 18-24. However, from the footage that I've seen of his, he doesn't stand a chance against players like Wade and Kobe.

He wouldn't destroy him but most likely he would win the matchup more times than the other way around (I won't discuss that 1on1 bullshit, talking about 5on5 basketball here, taking everything into account, not just strictly individually also). Really close though because, imo, speaking of peaks, they're pretty close, but I'd still take West probably.
From the footage I've seen he was very effective (you can say he didn't have a "modern" style, I don't care, oh and he played under much stricter rules), had a picture perfect jumper with a lightning quick release, could really pass the ball, played great D.. And he smoked great and/or pretty athletic defenders more than enough. Plus his peers, many players, coaches, experts, people who've saw him, so on, hold him in pretty high regard. And he was clutch af with an extremely competitive mind.
You wanna talk about style, eye-test, footage, whatever.. look at this dude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfWkiO2Iz08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1oUk7sgRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ
To compare him to active players, that's like a mix of Curry and Rubio, on an over 6'5, 200 lbs frame. He was playing while West was still active, never was considered or regarded as better.
This dude walked into the league a couple of years after West's retirement, super athletic with a really good jumper and game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6OsKy1c5A0
Never considered better.
Tiny was very similar to AI, before AI, never considered better.
John Havlicek also had a similar "style" of play you talk about for West, he was still putting up prettty good numbers in 1978, at 37 years old, two years before Bird and Magic got in the league, who were the big superstars til Jordan (who still got beat by them), same Jordan who was still able to drop 40 at 40 years old, in the 00's, against some of the best defenses.
Just some examples out of countless. So yea, just stop with the nonsense, too many people underrate players like West just because..

[LAZERUSS]

He wouldn't destroy him but most likely he would win the matchup more times than the other way around (I won't discuss that 1on1 bullshit, talking about 5on5 basketball here, taking everything into account, not just strictly individually also). Really close though because, imo, speaking of peaks, they're pretty close, but I'd still take West probably.
From the footage I've seen he was very effective (you can say he didn't have a "modern" style, I don't care, oh and he played under much stricter rules), had a picture perfect jumper with a lightning quick release, could really pass the ball, played great D.. And he smoked great and/or pretty athletic defenders more than enough. Plus his peers, many players, coaches, experts, people who've saw him, so on, hold him in pretty high regard. And he was clutch af with an extremely competitive mind.
You wanna talk about style, eye-test, footage, whatever.. look at this dude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfWkiO2Iz08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1oUk7sgRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ
To compare him to active players, that's like a mix of Curry and Rubio, on an over 6'5, 200 lbs frame. He was playing while West was still active, never was considered or regarded as better.
This dude walked into the league a couple of years after West's retirement, super athletic with a really good jumper and game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6OsKy1c5A0
Never considered better.
Tiny was very similar to AI, before AI, never considered better.
John Havlicek also had a similar "style" of play you talk about for West, he was still putting up prettty good numbers in 1978, at 37 years old, two years before Bird and Magic got in the league, who were the big superstars til Jordan (who still got beat by them), same Jordan who was still able to drop 40 at 40 years old, in the 00's, against some of the best defenses.
Just some examples out of countless. So yea, just stop with the nonsense, too many people underrate players like West just because..



Damn! This is a great post.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[HiphopRelated]

The guy that didn't lose 9 times in the Finals

[Y2ktors]

The guy that didn't lose 9 times in the Finals
At least he didn't get wheeled off in a wheelchair due a separated shoulder.

[HiphopRelated]

At least he didn't get wheeled off in a wheelchair due a separated shoulder.
But he did lose 9 times

Any modern player wouldn't hear the end of that shit

[derb2k2]

OP is worse than a million Bin Ladens.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Y2ktors]

Inb4 the nostalgic hipster bandwagon. Every player from the '60's/'70's >>>>>>>>> current players. West would destroy Wade 1 on 1, Wilt would make Shaq his bitch, Dr. J would sodomize LeBron, etc. Heck, according to some people, Thurmond would be a top 3 player today. :roll:
Cross comparing players from different eras leads to inaccuracy. To even try that is Foolish. The game, nutrition, technology and training is superior now than ever.

I just recently had this conversation on another board be I'll say it again:

Shooting: West
Slashing: Wade
Defense: West
Ball handling: Wade
Rebounding: Inconclusive
Passing: West (slight)

West is still the greater player. Wade is right on his heels though.

[Y2ktors]

But he did lose 9 times

Any modern player wouldn't hear the end of that shit

Is it that unreasonable to lose SEVEN times to the greatest dynasty in NBA history?

[Psileas]

The guy that didn't lose 9 times in the Finals

He's already lost 6 times before even the Finals came, including missing the playoffs by miles. Relatively healthy West lost only twice before the Finals came, and one was as a rookie. Give me the latter, please.

[JohnFreeman]

Wade > West

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Wade's resume ain't up to par w/ the Logo's, but I believe he was a better player. Just watching the film, it couldn't be more obvious :confusedshrug:

[Papaya Petee]

Wade would destroy West if they were matched up in a game. West dribbled with one hand with his head down. :roll:

[Y2ktors]

Wade's resume ain't up to par w/ the Logo's, but I believe he was a better player. Just watching the film, it couldn't be more obvious :confusedshrug:

You can't accurately cross compare their games accurately because of the evolution of the game itself, modern medicine, technology, training and nutrition.

[Y2ktors]

Wade would destroy West if they were matched up in a game. West dribbled with one hand with his head down. :roll:

A. The game is played 5 on 5.
B. Go check out film on West and see if he couldn't dribble or drive with his left.
C. No guard has ever impacted the league defensively as West did. He is the greatest defensive guard of all-time.

[Mass Debator]

Big Wade fan here but Jerry West is the logo.

Jerry is more like Kobe and Wade is more like David Thompson in terms of glory. Wade has a chance to pass West though without another great finals performance and like 2 more years of averaging close to 20/5/5.

[aj1987]

He wouldn't destroy him but most likely he would win the matchup more times than the other way around (I won't discuss that 1on1 bullshit, talking about 5on5 basketball here, taking .......

Again, I agree with what you're saying. I've said several times that West is a great player and one of the greatest ever. I'm not even ranking Wade above West. The thing is, you're forgetting how good of a player Wade is. As I said earlier, I can use just last seasons playoffs (literally his worst playoffs), to show that he's a better player than West.



Cross comparing players from different eras leads to inaccuracy. To even try that is Foolish. The game, nutrition, technology and training is superior now than ever.

I just recently had this conversation on another board be I'll say it again:

Shooting: West
Slashing: Wade
Defense: West
Ball handling: Wade
Rebounding: Inconclusive
Passing: West (slight)
So, what you're saying is that one of the greatest SG's of all time, and one of the greatest players of the "modern era", with all the technology and advancements is not better than a guy from the '60's who lacked all these things? The same guy who got the better of the 2nd greatest SG and a top 10 GOAT several times, in their head-to-head match ups?! Are you also trying to say that the guy who could barely dribble with two hands is better than Wade?