What is your BIGGEST problem with the NBA right now?

[KyleKong]

Discussion is simple.

Post your one biggest problem you have with the NBA right now.

Please, explain why that is your biggest problem.

My biggest problem:

I don't like how the NBA has such harsh rules on players for being physical after a whistle or a play. Players will always be emotional because this is their life, don't let shoving be an instant ejection and a suspension.

[JohnFreeman]

I like what you said about overzealous technical fouls. I think free throw shooting has been my main hate at the moment, certain players getting bailed out way too much.

[russwest0]

-Officiating is by far the worst out of all major sports.
-Star bias has stupidly been accepted as part of the league.
-Extreme lack of competitive balance.
-Absolutely zero reason to not do the draft lottery live.
-The punishment system for flopping is almost never even used.

[BlazerRed]

Beta players taking pay cuts to form super teams (most stacked in history), overzealous tech fouls, Portland lacking a bench and backup big man, lack of 4pt line (lol joke), terrible referees, flopping.

[Smook A.]

The nba isn't as tough as it used to be. Back then you'd only get a tech for fighting a player. Today, players get one when they cuss. That's a facepalm :facepalm

[Milbuck]

James Harden.

[Smook A.]

Also, the NBA needs to do a better job at fining players. $5,000-$15,000 is absolutely nothing for an NBA player

[Yankstar]

James Harden.


Fear the beard? :roll:

[SexSymbol]

Basically all major floppers, disgrace to the game : Lebron, CP3, Harden, B.Griffin.
Notice how 2 of those guys are some of the most well built athletes ever, and they still flail their arms life frickin girls.

[JohnFreeman]

James Harden.
:oldlol:

[russwest0]

Also, the NBA needs to do a better job at fining players. $5,000-$15,000 is absolutely nothing for an NBA player

This is dumb. I've seen games where Chris Paul has flopped 4 times. Lets be safe and say he flops 2-3 times per game. You mean to tell me a fine of 10-15k per game is nothing to an NBA player? If he plays all 82 games that adds up to 820k-1.2M on the season.

The problem is the NBA doesn't even use the fining system they have in place. Guys working in the league office are probably highly discouraged from bringing videos of stars (say LeBron) flopping to their boss.

The fining system exposes the same problem the league has all across the board; they favor superstars.

[imnew09]

Can't stand flopping. Harsher rule on floppers, like game suspension after 3 flops or so.

Other than that, I wish ALL nba players are injury free, design some special equip or something :cry:

[Smook A.]

:oldlol:
I laughed like that when I saw the kings and cousins getting ejected today

[KyleKong]

-Officiating is by far the worst out of all major sports.
-Star bias has stupidly been accepted as part of the league.
-Extreme lack of competitive balance.
-Absolutely zero reason to not do the draft lottery live.
-The punishment system for flopping is almost never even used.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

The competitive balance is outragoues, and I'm talking about teams. There are only 3 maybe 4 franchises that star players would flock to in order to win a ring. Everyone else are just bottom feeders.

And the Flopping fine is absolutely absurd. $5,000 for a flop? How about 5% of a players salary, followed by 10% and 15% following the next fines. That would change flopping in the NBA.

[JohnFreeman]

I laughed like that when I saw the kings and cousins getting ejected today
I ain't even mad :confusedshrug:

[MrC1991]

Phantom foul calls.

[bdreason]

Too soft. These are grown ass men playing a professional sport... let them play. And isn't just the refs. The fans are soft as shit, wanting foul calls for every little bit of contact... and the players cry for calls on every bit of contact as well.

I think it's embarrassing that High School and College basketball are actually more physical... although it looks like the NCAA is trying to follow in the NBA's footsteps.

[Mr. Jabbar]

player softness and or collusion
reffing

[JohnFreeman]

Get rid of all the old officiating guys, Crawford can get f*cked. Get rid of reviews for everything as well.

[YouGotServed]

I laughed like that when I saw the kings and cousins getting ejected today

Really? My reaction was more like: :roll:

[russwest0]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

The competitive balance is outragoues, and I'm talking about teams. There are only 3 maybe 4 franchises that star players would flock to in order to win a ring. Everyone else are just bottom feeders.

And the Flopping fine is absolutely absurd. $5,000 for a flop? How about 5% of a players salary, followed by 10% and 15% following the next fines. That would change flopping in the NBA.

I hear you on the flopping fines needing an increase, but it still wouldn't change shit if the NBA continued to use them sparingly.

And yes, the competitive balance is ridiculous. I see a ton of people talking about tanking and all of these off the wall ideas to replace the lottery system. The problem has nothing to do with the lottery system but the fact that teams know if they aren't a top 4-5 team in this league they might as well be the worst.

In a perfect setup, we'd never be able to have three of the top free agents all take a near max contract with one team in one offseason. Two should be the most IMO. So we'd have D Wade and Bosh vs say LeBron and Amare or whoever. You want a perfectly constructed team with three stars or whatever, you shouldn't be able to buy it. There needs to be a premium placed on drafting and developing guys. One example would be not forcing teams to pay luxury tax fines when they guy they are going into the tax to sign is someone they drafted.

If you read through the new CBA it's complete shit. The whole entire luxury tax/repeater tax system is a joke that only favors the large market teams even further despite dumbasses in the media pushing it off as a good counter to "The Decision" and big 3 forming in Miami.

This league needs serious work. A hard salary cap, an officiating overhaul, guys in the league office spending time to punish floppers, Adam Silver to quit being a f@ggot flirting with the dumbass idea of putting advertisements on jerseys or adding a 4pt shot. The list goes on and on.

[KyleKong]

I hear you on the flopping fines needing an increase, but it still wouldn't change shit if the NBA continued to use them sparingly.

And yes, the competitive balance is ridiculous. I see a ton of people talking about tanking and all of these off the wall ideas to replace the lottery system. The problem has nothing to do with the lottery system but the fact that teams know if they aren't a top 4-5 team in this league they might as well be the worst.

In a perfect setup, we'd never be able to have three of the top free agents all take a near max contract with one team in one offseason. Two should be the most IMO. So we'd have D Wade and Bosh vs say LeBron and Amare or whoever. You want a perfectly constructed team with three stars or whatever, you shouldn't be able to buy it. There needs to be a premium placed on drafting and developing guys. One example would be not forcing teams to pay luxury tax fines when they guy they are going into the tax to sign is someone they drafted.

If you read through the new CBA it's complete shit. The whole entire luxury tax/repeater tax system is a joke that only favors the large market teams even further despite dumbasses in the media pushing it off as a good counter to "The Decision" and big 3 forming in Miami.

This league needs serious work. A hard salary cap, an officiating overhaul, guys in the league office spending time to punish floppers, Adam Silver to quit being a f@ggot flirting with the dumbass idea of putting advertisements on jerseys or adding a 4pt shot. The list goes on and on.

:applause:

The problem is, what you stated, is that LeBron, Bosh, and Wade for example, took pay cuts.

Do you think there should be a franchise tag on NBA players like the NFL? Would that help? Honestly, I think it would.

[Megabox!]

The refs and technical fouls. Players literally get T'd up for running away from the refs in order to restrain themselves from yelling at them

[Smook A.]

Not to be mean or rude but when will joey crawford die?

[MellowYellow]

James Harden and to an extent Durant is all that is wrong with the NBA. They can just run into defensive players all willy nilly throw up a shot and get fts.

[JohnFreeman]

James Harden and to an extent Durant is all that is wrong with the NBA. They can just run into defensive players all willy nilly throw up a shot and get fts.
I agree, not just with those two though.

[East_Stone_Ya]

flopping and soft fouls

[JT123]

Bitch made players (like a certain someone in OKC) using the rip through move and getting bailed out with free throws. :facepalm If anything a rip through should be an offensive foul, as the offensive player is the one initiating all the contact!

[JohnFreeman]

Bitch made players (like a certain someone in OKC) using the rip through move and getting bailed out with free throws. :facepalm If anything a rip through should be an offensive foul, as the offensive player is the one initiating all the contact!
Yeah I would like to see a rule change on the rip through, such a bitch made move

[coin24]

The big problem is the product. Having league pass, you look at all the games available to watch that day, and the majority are unwatchable. Garbage/tanking teams are ruining the league. Stars teaming up also doesn't help, look how depleted the east is now..
They have resorted to shoving pretend stars down our throats making out they're the next big superstar..

They need to fix the draft lottery system, it doesn't work and the shit teams that are supposedly hard done by and are "building through the draft" usually do a shit job of drafting anyway. See cavs, kings etc..

[Spokelahoma]

Bitch made players (like a certain someone in OKC) using the rip through move and getting bailed out with free throws. :facepalm If anything a rip through should be an offensive foul, as the offensive player is the one initiating all the contact!

I'd bet within a year or 2 they'll make that rule change. Can't really fault Durant for doing it because it's 2 free points (if the other team is in the penalty), but I cringe every time he does it lol

[JT123]

The big problem is the product. Having league pass, you look at all the games available to watch that day, and the majority are unwatchable. Garbage/tanking teams are ruining the league. Stars teaming up also doesn't help, look how depleted the east is now..
They have resorted to shoving pretend stars down our throats making out they're the next big superstar..

They need to fix the draft lottery system, it doesn't work and the shit teams that are supposedly hard done by and are "building through the draft" usually do a shit job of drafting anyway. See cavs, kings etc..
Yet I'm guessing you had no issue with Kobe teaming up with Nash and Howard last year. :rolleyes:

[JohnFreeman]

Yet I'm guessing you had no issue with Kobe teaming up with Nash and Howard last year. :rolleyes:
Shots fired

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[JT123]

Shots fired

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:lol Everyone has a problem with stars "teaming up", until it's their team that benefits from it. Then they start making lame excuses about it being okay because such and such star players were older. :rolleyes: Give me a break! Nash was still putting up All Star averages the season before he came to the Lakers. Kobe just wasn't comfortable playing off the ball, and thus Nash was reduced to nothing more than a spot up shooter.

[coin24]

Yet I'm guessing you had no issue with Kobe teaming up with Nash and Howard last year. :rolleyes:


Was that free agents teaming up? No,, the teams made trades. This isn't a Lebron/Kobe agenda idiot..

[JohnFreeman]

:lol Everyone has a problem with stars "teaming up", until it's their team that benefits from it. Then they start making lame excuses about it being okay because such and such star players were older. :rolleyes: Give me a break! Nash was still putting up All Star averages the season before he came to the Lakers. Kobe just wasn't comfortable playing off the ball, and thus Nash was reduced to nothing more than a spot up shooter.

Yeah that Lakers team was the epitome of teaming up, laker fans discount it because it didn't work haha

[JT123]

Was that free agents teaming up? No,, the teams made trades. This isn't a Lebron/Kobe agenda idiot..
Stars teaming up is Stars teaming up, doesn't matter how it was done cause either way it ruins competitive balance! Idiot...

[JT123]

Yeah that Lakers team was the epitome of teaming up, laker fans discount it because it didn't work haha
This. :oldlol: They salty as hell cause Miami's super team worked out while theirs failed miserably! :yaohappy:

[kurple]

Tanking

- People pay money to watch their favorite team compete for games
- It sends the wrong message to kids and fans everywhere
- Players and coaches must hate it

other than that. flopping and superstarcalls

[russwest0]

A team making trades to help compete for the title =/= stars all making a pact to eachother and then teaming up in FA

[thefatmiral]

ticket prices for courtside seats. guess thats not an nba problem. just product demand for sitting front at my favorite and nearest team. pretty sure bucks courtside seats are free.

[BlazerRed]

I hear you on the flopping fines needing an increase, but it still wouldn't change shit if the NBA continued to use them sparingly.

And yes, the competitive balance is ridiculous. I see a ton of people talking about tanking and all of these off the wall ideas to replace the lottery system. The problem has nothing to do with the lottery system but the fact that teams know if they aren't a top 4-5 team in this league they might as well be the worst.

In a perfect setup, we'd never be able to have three of the top free agents all take a near max contract with one team in one offseason. Two should be the most IMO. So we'd have D Wade and Bosh vs say LeBron and Amare or whoever. You want a perfectly constructed team with three stars or whatever, you shouldn't be able to buy it. There needs to be a premium placed on drafting and developing guys. One example would be not forcing teams to pay luxury tax fines when they guy they are going into the tax to sign is someone they drafted.

If you read through the new CBA it's complete shit. The whole entire luxury tax/repeater tax system is a joke that only favors the large market teams even further despite dumbasses in the media pushing it off as a good counter to "The Decision" and big 3 forming in Miami.

This league needs serious work. A hard salary cap, an officiating overhaul, guys in the league office spending time to punish floppers, Adam Silver to quit being a f@ggot flirting with the dumbass idea of putting advertisements on jerseys or adding a 4pt shot. The list goes on and on.
Yesyesyesyesyes

Hard cap. Do it. Seriously, this tax shit is just stupid.. and as you said, has no hand in balancing the league. Just ****ing hard cap the league and it forces equality almost instantly.

Totally agreed with the flopping too.. these "fines" are a joke. There needs to be some kind of deterrent.. 2 strikes and you're suspended for a game or two without pay for example. That's just a quick one off the top of my head, and I'm sure there's MUCH better ways, but something needs to be done. This sport is quickly becoming pussified to a level that it may not recover from ala soccer.

Again, with the tanking you're right. It's way out of hand. Incentive needs to be put on lower seeded teams to compete. That shit is way above my pay roll, but I'm sure those in charge of the league can come up with SOMETHING to counter this trash. May as well wipe out half the league ATM.

[9512]

The fact that there are so many teams whose owners do not care as much about winning as much making their money.

It's either they contract teams or they split the league into 2 leagues like euro pro soccer. a premier league with a lackey league in which lower teams from the premier league get relegated to.

The latter is more a compromised solution.

[Olacinco]

For me the biggest problem is the hype for a limited amount of players..
85% lebron hype
14% durant hype
1% hype for players only if they got a story behind them

Growing up there were atleast 25 superstars that they'd talk about on a regular basis
Kobe,KG,Dirk,Duncan,Parker,Tmac,Wade,Lebron,Pierce ,Rondo,Drose,Chris Paul,Nash,amare,Shaq, and the list can go on and on... Even arenas got superstar level hype...

The way they promote nba nowadays is like promoting WWE.. Once lebron dies out they gunna have no1s dikk to ride no more...

Thank god we got Oladipo and Embiid building future magic dynasty. :bowdown:

[LilEddyCurry]

Basically all major floppers, disgrace to the game : Lebron, CP3, Harden, B.Griffin.
Notice how 2 of those guys are some of the most well built athletes ever, and they still flail their arms life frickin girls.
Because they need to exaggerate contact in order for the refs to notice the contact. It's not like they do it every game. But whenever they do it would be on YouTube.
Your boy Kevin Durant, after getting hit gets knocked around and a foul is called. If Lebron or BG gets hit with that same force then they would not get that foul as nothing would happen because their "most well built" bodies absorbs the contact. Realize that the perimeter orientated Kevin Durant gets to the line more than two very physical players who also "flop"?

[jstern]

Yesterday I was thinking about the 8 second rule. Just something annoying about it. Like the whole reason why it was reduced by two seconds was just to force more scoring. Force is the key word. Basically the problem that I have is when I see a player coming down the court, thinking and plotting, and then having to snap out of it because they remembered about the 8 second clock. It just brings those kinds of unnatural moments.

The other is the defensive three second rule. For the same reason, it just becomes an annoyance, something that the players has to be continuously aware off, breaking off concentration. It really becomes and annoyance when playing an NBA video game. I just want to concentrate on what the offense is doing, but instead have to break that concentration to step out then back in.

[JohnFreeman]

Because they need to exaggerate contact in order for the refs to notice the contact. Your boy Kevin Durant, after getting hit gets knocked around and a foul is called. If Lebron or BG gets hit with that same force then they would not get that foul as nothing would happen because their "most well built" bodies absorbs the contact. Realize that the perimeter orientated Kevin Durant gets to the line more than two very physical players?
This is true.

[T-Time3]

- FVCKIN SLEEVED JERSEYS MAN, they ugly as shieeet
- flopping
- WE NEED SOME NASTY !!!

[jstern]

Can't stand flopping. Harsher rule on floppers, like game suspension after 3 flops or so.

Other than that, I wish ALL nba players are injury free, design some special equip or something :cry:

The high increase in flopping is due to the rule changes. Make the refs call any little bump in order to make things easier for perimeter players, then it become much easier to execute a flop, to a point where it becomes part of a player's skill set, part of the game.

[Lordsteven]

biggest problem is refs being very trigger happy with their damns calls. even the slightest contact will send dudes to the line sometimes. needs to be a little more physical. also let players taunt a little, it adds extra excitement to the fans. obviously have some boundaries but if a dude straight slams it on another dude, let him flex a little.... flopping is also a no no, making the sport a little more physical would get flopping out the way cause players wont try to ref bait if the refs arent gonna make calls for p**** contacts

[T_L_P]

Not a problem with the league, per se, but I'd like to see more low post players.

[Bandito]

Flopping
The travels officiating

[SHABBA]

Officiating
Sleeves
Imbalance of the conferences

[$LakerGold]

Melo playing at 4.
Hardly any real traditional center anymore.
The commissioner's ability to veto a trade. Seriously, what was Stern's reason of why he vetoed the Cp3/Gasol trade?
Apply the rules that they used back in the Jordan Era. I can't stand Jordan stans bitching about the handcheck rule.

[KrizMiz]

fairness overall!

to much money in the game right now

+ if they call a 20 second timeout, why dies it take 50 seconds to start the game again ?? thats whats gets me mad every single game! fkkkkkkkk commercial brakes!

[FLDFSU]

:applause:

The problem is, what you stated, is that LeBron, Bosh, and Wade for example, took pay cuts.

Do you think there should be a franchise tag on NBA players like the NFL? Would that help? Honestly, I think it would.


So you think Minn should be able to franchise Love and continue to not put the pieces around him to compete?

Sounds like a great idea.

[tmacattack33]

- The season is too long (this has always been the case though)

- There are too many playoff teams. There needs to be 6 playoff teams each conference and a first round bye for the top two seeds in each conference (this has always been the case though as well)

- The East sucks compared to the West...I don't know how to fix that though :confusedshrug:

[TheMan]

-Officiating is by far the worst out of all major sports.
-Star bias has stupidly been accepted as part of the league.
-Extreme lack of competitive balance.
-Absolutely zero reason to not do the draft lottery live.
-The punishment system for flopping is almost never even used.
Excellent post

My biggest beef though is your third point, darkhorse teams actually win in MLB, the NFL and NHL but never in the NBA. It gets boring when it's basically 2 or 3 teams each year that have a legit shot. I could bet you my life either Miami (I think they 3peat), Indiana or OKC win this year. The rest have little or no shot at all.

[Demitri98]

If anything a rip through should be an offensive foul, as the offensive player is the one initiating all the contact!
This. All of it.

[FLDFSU]

Excellent post

My biggest beef though is your third point, darkhorse teams actually win in MLB, the NFL and NHL but never in the NBA. It gets boring when it's basically 2 or 3 teams each year that have a legit shot. I could bet you my life either Miami (I think they 3peat), Indiana or OKC win this year. The rest have little or no shot at all.

Didn't the darkhorse Mavs just win a title?

[thefatmiral]

best of five first round over seven.

[3243]

I could put up with the flopping if the physicality that existed in the '80s were brought back. At least we could once again see players being free to give the floppers a reason to hit the floor.

Yes, the game is not only too soft, but I'm tired of seeing all of the player fraternization that exists during games now. I miss the way it was in the 1970s, '80s, and '90s when teams actually hated one another. And yes, no one wants another Malice at the Palace (an over-reacted to incident IMO) or The Punch II, but I also don't think an occasional fistfight is the end of the world for the NBA.

Also, I do not like the current technical foul rules for players arguing with referees, nor do I like the off-court dress code. I'm also not a big fan of sleeved jerseys, Christmas jerseys and all of the other special-occasion jerseys, the baggy capris that pass for shorts now, or the black socks. They looked cool on Michigan's Fab Five in 1992, but now they're tired. I'm not advocating a return to the Speedo-length shorts of the 1950s-80s, but shorts that go to mid-thigh level are good enough. I would also like a return to the striped high socks from the '70s and '80s.

And as for the overall league-wide talent level, the NBA definitely has too many teams. Four or six teams could go instead of just being cannon fodder for the few superteams.

[BigMacAttack]

The officiating is so shit.
-Star calls
-Travelling
-Carrying

Flopping
Superteams
no fvcking rivalries anymore
All this buddy buddy shit sucks too
sleeved jerseys

[3243]

I would also like for the NBA to develop its own minor league system. The D-League would be great for underclassmen straight from college to play in. I would also start a second D-League, at a lower level than the D-League. Additionally, I would like a new policy concerning the drafting of underclassmen--high school seniors once again can choose to enter the NBA draft, or if they opt to go to college, they are required to stay there for three years. That will help the college game and also result in more rookies who do have some fundamentals underneath them. And if they are deemed to be not ready for the NBA yet, send them to the D-League or perhaps D-League II for a season to gain some more fundamentals and maturity.

[TaLvsCuaL]

Star system (calls specially) and lack of loyalty (superteams).

[Rose'sACL]

A team making trades to help compete for the title =/= stars all making a pact to eachother and then teaming up in FA
lakers have a big media contract. nets have a very rich owner who isn't scared to spend.
with current cap and repeater tax, only big market teams will be able to afford multiple stars getting paid max.
it doesn't matter how a team got the players. result is the same.
League can't make some players take less or more money than they want and teams are ready to pay them. players union will make silver cry.

[3243]

I don't like how the NBA has such harsh rules on players for being physical after a whistle or a play. Players will always be emotional because this is their life, don't let shoving be an instant ejection and a suspension.

There should only be automatic ejections for throwing punches, malicious elbows, kicks, or headbutts. And I would cut the suspensions down to two-five games for the instigator of an on-court fistfight, one-three games for the player who retaliated (all depending upon the severity of the incident). The larger suspensions should only be reserved for player (or coach) vs. fan incidents.

[tpols]

refs not being able to distinguish flopping from real fouls.

[Rose'sACL]

Star system (calls specially) and lack of loyalty (superteams).
would the loyalty thing also apply to team owners and frontoffice. will small market teams be ready to go into luxury tax? will GMs be ready to trade their superstars if they keep fking up every year by failing to get good players around their best player?

[Rose'sACL]

my biggest problem is that NBA should have an extra ref who watches the game's live video and tries to take away a few bad calls and reduces the game time.

[BasedTom]

There's too much emphasis on individual stars and not on teams

[Rose'sACL]

There's too much emphasis on individual stars and not on teams
it is a 5 players team sport. I am sure same thing would happen in football if it was 5v5.

[Eric Cartman]

Clear path foul
3 second defense rule
Overreaction of common fouls and making them flagrants

[CavaliersFTW]

No handchecking...

Self explanitory, hand checking is a huge asset to defense. We are seeing too much 1 on 1 play, where players are taking shots and making drives without a single pass, because their defender can't touch them. This leads to terrible team basketball on the offensive end.

[AnaheimLakers24]

no real superstars. just a bunch of lames that need to team up to barely win

[Solidape]

Discussion is simple.

Post your one biggest problem you have with the NBA right now.

Please, explain why that is your biggest problem.

My biggest problem:

I don't like how the NBA has such harsh rules on players for being physical after a whistle or a play. Players will always be emotional because this is their life, don't let shoving be an instant ejection and a suspension.

While true, they are supposed to be "professionals" and held to a higher standard for that reason.

[Heavincent]

Officiating is horrendous. Stop calling the ticky tack touch fouls. Let them play.

[ihoopallday]

Was that free agents teaming up? No,, the teams made trades. This isn't a Lebron/Kobe agenda idiot..

:lol You gotta be naive to believe players of that caliber don't have a say in where they want to be traded.

[BasedTom]

it is a 5 players team sport. I am sure same thing would happen in football if it was 5v5.
Yes, but even in advertising games it's LEBRON VS KD and not "Heat vs Thunder"...People care more for the star they're currently dickriding than the team and city he plays for.

Compare it to football where even though ****ers like Rooney, van Persie, Bale are making obscene amounts of money...it's still Manchester vs Liverpool that makes it a special match. Or in the NFL where there's cowboys vs eagles or in baseball where it's Red Sox vs Yankees.

Yeah Lakers vs Celtics is there, but it still feels like the media hypes it more as "WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR KOBE'S (or lebron or mj or durant) LEGACY?!!"

[3243]

Oh yeah. Every NBA team having essentially the same warmup gear, all designed by the same company (Adidas).