Why do some people not like to claim they're American?

[christian1923]

They rather claim the country their parents came from instead of the country that has hot water and lights that can actually turn on.

I'm American with Dominican parents and ancestry. I don't claim it like it's my country and I grew up there. That shit makes me sick. People of all Spanish races love to do that. It annoys the hell out of me, as if they're arnt blessed to be born here :rolleyes:

[Nick Young]

These kinds of people are lameasses. Whenever someone claims "Im German Irish" or some other bullshit combination when their family has been in America for 100 years+ and they are actually American, I know that person is an asshole. Alot of East Coast people, especially Bostoners try to pull off this bullshit for some reason.

The worst are people who are like "Im cherokee" or "Im a Navajo" when theyre like 1/128th cherokee MAX if at all.

Also what pisses me off is like 3rd generation kids born here whose grand parents are from like Panama or Mexico or El Salvador and those asshole kids dont even speak Spanish claim shit like "Im El Salvadorian". GTFO

I dunno why more people aren't proud to just say "Im American." We're the GOAT nation and the modern version of Rome.

Most of the world envies us. Despite what everyone says "THE WHOLE WORLD HATES AMERICANS" it's not even true, most of the world these days, including Iranians even have a positive attitude towards Americans accorrding to opinion polls. Even Eurosnob assholes wear American style clothes, listen to American music and watch american films and TV and dream about going to New York or LA. It should be a symbol of pride to say you're American. This is one of the things that the south has gotten right.

[tpols]

When people ask you what your race is in America its already known your american. If someone asked me my race and I said I'm american theyd look at me like I was being a smartass.

[Nick Young]

You should answer "why's my race matter to you, you a racist bruh? Im American as a Bruce Springsteen song and McDonalds"

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

cuz if u answer that when da cabbie ask u where u from in saudi arabia they will literally in one second, unhesitatingly, elevate the price from 50 riyal to 200 riyal

[Akrazotile]

cuz if u answer that when da cabbie ask u where u from in saudi arabia they will literally in one second, unhesitatingly, elevate the price from 50 riyal to 200 riyal


True, true, but if you do experience that as an American you pretty much have no choice but to punch him in the mouth and yell EAT FREEDOM, BITCH.

[christian1923]

These kinds of people are lameasses. Whenever someone claims "Im German Irish" or some other bullshit combination when their family has been in America for 100 years+ and they are actually American, I know that person is an asshole. Alot of East Coast people, especially Bostoners try to pull off this bullshit for some reason.

The worst are people who are like "Im cherokee" or "Im a Navajo" when theyre like 1/128th cherokee MAX if at all.

Also what pisses me off is like 3rd generation kids born here whose grand parents are from like Panama or Mexico or El Salvador and those asshole kids dont even speak Spanish claim shit like "Im El Salvadorian". GTFO

I dunno why more people aren't proud to just say "Im American." We're the GOAT nation and the modern version of Rome.

Most of the world envies us. Despite what everyone says "THE WHOLE WORLD HATES AMERICANS" it's not even true, most of the world these days, including Iranians even have a positive attitude towards Americans accorrding to opinion polls. Even Eurosnob assholes wear American style clothes, listen to American music and watch american films and TV and dream about going to New York or LA. It should be a symbol of pride to say you're American. This is one of the things that the south has gotten right.
Basically. People You're not from there at all. Why are you claiming this place to the death of you lol

[christian1923]

When people ask you what your race is in America its already known your american. If someone asked me my race and I said I'm american theyd look at me like I was being a smartass.
Not really, in New York a lot of ppl arnt born in the country.

[Akrazotile]

Basically. People You're not from there at all. Why are you claiming this place to the death of you lol



Sometimes it just comes up conversationally where your ancestry is from. This is usually what people are referring to when they say "I'm ____". And the fact is people in general enjoy having pride in their heritage. Doesn't mean it has to be excessive or arrogant but most people are naturally proud to see the place of their origins get some shine.


I don't see why that would anger anyone :confusedshrug:

[MightyWhitey]

They rather claim the country their parents came from instead of the country that has hot water and lights that can actually turn on.

I'm American with Dominican parents and ancestry. I don't claim it like it's my country and I grew up there. That shit makes me sick. People of all Spanish races love to do that. It annoys the hell out of me, as if they're arnt blessed to be born here :rolleyes:
People of Spanish speaking descent barely learn English. I always reply I'm American but when asked my ethnicity I usually say European. Nothing wrong with that.

[ace23]

When people ask you what your race is in America its already known your american. If someone asked me my race and I said I'm american theyd look at me like I was being a smartass.
American is not a race. Anyone who asks for a race and expects a nationality in return is a dumbass. There may be some exceptions though for people who don't really fall under a racial group defined by the US.

[Nick Young]

Sometimes it just comes up conversationally where your ancestry is from. This is usually what people are referring to when they say "I'm ____". And the fact is people in general enjoy having pride in their heritage. Doesn't mean it has to be excessive or arrogant but most people are naturally proud to see the place of their origins get some shine.


I don't see why that would anger anyone :confusedshrug:
If you born in America and your parents were, your place of origin and heritage is America.

If the last member of your family born in Ireland was old great great grandpa Paddy MacBillabong from 200 years ago you don't have any right to claim you are Irish, it just makes you look like an ungrateful poser jackass. These people should go to Ireland and claim to be Irish, see how they're treated over there. They get mocked like the jackasses they are, I've seen it happen multiple times with my own eyes. Mostly East Coast douchebags try to pull this shit more then anyone else for some reason. If I was an East Coast douchebag I'd be f*cking proud of being American, they were the ones who first fought off the English after all.

It's alot like when African Americans go over to Kenya and try to pull shit like "I did a DNA test and my people are Masai". Africans just call African Americans white and don't really respect them, ESPECIALLY if they try to claim they're African.

NO ONE from these countries likes these poser Americans pretending to be from from their country, so why would you want to be one of those American poser douchebags that no one has any respect for?

[christian1923]

Sometimes it just comes up conversationally where your ancestry is from. This is usually what people are referring to when they say "I'm ____". And the fact is people in general enjoy having pride in their heritage. Doesn't mean it has to be excessive or arrogant but most people are naturally proud to see the place of their origins get some shine.


I don't see why that would anger anyone :confusedshrug:
That's fine. But when someone starts rooting for France over America in Olympic sports cause their parents are from there it's weird to me. You should have pride in where you were raised cause those hick Frenchman don't claim you the way you claim them.

[-p.tiddy-]

American is not a race. Anyone who asks for a race and expects a nationality in return is a dumbass. There may be some exceptions though for people who don't really fall under a racial group defined by the US.
I know what you're gettin at here but American IS a race...Native American

[MMM]

My parents are from Somalia
Was born in Saudi
And lived most my life in Canada

If people ask me what I am I'll respond with Somali even though I was considered an outsider when I went back home. I have more connection to Canada and it's lifestyle but I don't really consider my self Canadian as well.

[MightyWhitey]

If you born in America and your parents were, your place of origin and heritage is America.

If the last member of your family born in Ireland was old great great grandpa Paddy MacBillabong from 200 years ago you don't have any right to claim you are Irish, it just makes you look like an ungrateful poser jackass. These people should go to Ireland and claim to be Irish, see how they're treated over there. They get mocked like the jackasses they are, I've seen it happen multiple times with my own eyes. Mostly East Coast douchebags try to pull this shit more then anyone else for some reason. If I was an East Coast douchebag I'd be f*cking proud of being American, they were the ones who first fought off the English after all.
That is pure nonsense. Your ETHNIC heritage is different from your NATIONALITY. I am proud of my European background and even prouder of being an American born patriot. Ethnic Europeans built this country up to what it is today. The dominant language spoken in America is a European language. Europeans who came here for a better life made this country their home and brought over their work ethic and morals. In fact Europeans are the reason why the world speaks of "the Western World" because without Europeans you would be spear fishing in a pond wearing a loin cloth.

[dr.hee]

Your ETHNIC heritage is different from your NATIONALITY.

This.

[ace23]

I know what you're gettin at here but American IS a race...Native American
Native American, not American. Lol. There's a difference.

[Nick Young]

That is pure nonsense. Your ETHNIC heritage is different from your NATIONALITY. I am proud of my European background and even prouder of being an American born patriot. Ethnic Europeans built this country up to what it is today. The dominant language spoken in America is a European language. Europeans who came here for a better life made this country their home and brought over their work ethic and morals. In fact Europeans are the reason why the world speaks of "the Western World" because without Europeans you would be spear fishing in a pond wearing a loin cloth.
The decent Europeans all moved to America integrated into the society and became AMERICANS.

What is this racist bullshit about spear fishing in loincloths if not for Europeans? When Europeans were actually busy spear fishing in loin cloths, the Egyptians and Chinese were busy creating the biggest and most technologically advanced empires in the world at the time. The Pacific Islanders were busy being the greatest navigators of all time and the Mayans and Ashkanazi were busy building stone cities much bigger and more technologically then anything in Europe.

The western world and most of Europe are still using an alphabet created IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

[Akrazotile]

If you born in America and your parents were, your place of origin and heritage is America.

If the last member of your family born in Ireland was old great great grandpa Paddy MacBillabong from 200 years ago you don't have any right to claim you are Irish, it just makes you look like an ungrateful poser jackass. These people should go to Ireland and claim to be Irish, see how they're treated over there. They get mocked like the jackasses they are, I've seen it happen multiple times with my own eyes. Mostly East Coast douchebags try to pull this shit more then anyone else for some reason. If I was an East Coast douchebag I'd be f*cking proud of being American, they were the ones who first fought off the English after all.

If your great great grandpa migrated here, that means you have probably like 120 years of "American" lineage. Prior to that most people have like a thousand years at least of wherever their family came from before that. Most people do originate from societies that were culturally and even genetically distinct for a very long time. I don't know who these supposed people are that are running up to strangers and pulling on their shirt sleeves to say "Dude, I'm totally Irish, believe meeeeee" but if it comes up between people in casual conversation, who cares? It can be an interesting launching pad for discussion. Not somethin to get peeved about.


And I would assume most Americans who are abroad do declare themselves as "American" and not wherever they trace ancestral lineage. People usually only discuss the ancestral topic when they're here in the States, where everybody is obviously American.

[Nick Young]

If your great great grandpa migrated here, that means you have probably like 120 years of "American" lineage. Prior to that most people have like a thousand years at least of wherever their family came from before that. Most people do originate from societies that were culturally and even genetically distinct for a very long time. I don't know who these supposed people are that are running up to strangers and pulling on their shirt sleeves to say "Dude, I'm totally Irish, believe meeeeee" but if it comes up between people in casual conversation, who cares? It can be an interesting launching pad for discussion. Not somethin to get peeved about.


And I would assume most Americans who are abroad do declare themselves as "American" and not wherever they trace ancestral lineage. People usually only discuss the ancestral topic when they're here in the States, where everybody is obviously American.
I wish that was the case but sadly it's not true for the most part. The absolute worst is when these losers apologize for being an American saying shit like "Don't hate me-Im American" or "Sorry Im an American-but my grandparents are half Portugese and Im definately more Portugese then American"

SHEEEIT pisses me off like nothing else to see all these American losers APOLOGIZE and feel ashamed of being from the GOAT country.

[kentatm]

They rather claim the country their parents came from instead of the country that has hot water and lights that can actually turn on.

I'm American with Dominican parents and ancestry. I don't claim it like it's my country and I grew up there. That shit makes me sick. People of all Spanish races love to do that. It annoys the hell out of me, as if they're arnt blessed to be born here :rolleyes:


this isn't some American thing

lots of people around the world consider themselves to be Greek, or Italian, or Spanish or whatever even if they were born or live in different countries.

[kentatm]

. Ethnic Europeans built this country up to what it is today.

off the backs of slaves they kidnapped from Africa but lets just ignore that part and give all the credit to whitey :lol

[Akrazotile]

American saying shit like "Don't hate me-Im American" or "Sorry Im an American-but my grandparents are half Portugese and Im definately more Portugese then American"

SHEEEIT pisses me off like nothing else to see all these American losers APOLOGIZE and feel ashamed of being from the GOAT country.


Actually yeah I can imagine this happening fairly frequently when Americans travel abroad. But I do think in some places there probably is an immediate assumption that a person is a gun-toting evangelical imperialist the moment they say "I'm from America." So rather than having to answer a bunch of questions and all that about whether you support the American government's agenda probably just easier to pre-emptively be like "yeah I'm american, but im not down with all the shit we're doing, let's move on"


True story, I ran into Hamed Haddadi at a bar in Brentwood once (:oldlol: ) and I was the only person to recognize him. I was kinda tipsy and I was like "so dude, you re-signing with the grizzlies" and then I started asking him about the Iranian political situation and he was like "Man, I really don't like getting into all that when I'm out in public" and I was like, word Hamed. I can dig it. And then I told him to buy me a beer or GTFO out my country. :pimp:

[Akrazotile]

off the backs of slaves they kidnapped from Africa but lets just ignore that part and give all the credit to whitey :lol


You mean bartered for with African slave owners, right?

[kentatm]

You mean bartered for with African slave owners, right?

:roll:

No, no, no officer! I didn't kidnap this little kid! I bought him fair and square! The guy I bought him from was the kidnapper! I just let it be known that if you have a kid I'll buy him! I have no blame in this at all!

[Nick Young]

:roll:

No, no, no officer! I didn't kidnap this little kid! I bought him fair and square! The guy I bought him from was the kidnapper! I just let it be known that if you have a kid I'll buy him! I have no blame in this at all!
He's right doe. The slaves weren't for the most part stolen or kidnapped like you're pretending. They were sold to the Europeans and Americans by their own people in exchange for goods. The slave traders in Africa deserve just as much blame as the Europeans and Americans, if not more as they are the ones who popularized the idea of slavery to the Europeans in the first place.

If reparations ever come, they should come from African countries giving money to African Americans whose families were in the slave trade. African Americans should be demanding reparations from African governments, not the American one.

[MightyWhitey]

The decent Europeans all moved to America integrated into the society and became AMERICANS.

What is this racist bullshit about spear fishing in loincloths if not for Europeans? When Europeans were actually busy spear fishing in loin cloths, the Egyptians and Chinese were busy creating the biggest and most technologically advanced empires in the world at the time. The Pacific Islanders were busy being the greatest navigators of all time and the Mayans and Ashkanazi were busy building stone cities much bigger and more technologically then anything in Europe.

The western world and most of Europe are still using an alphabet created IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
I'm sorry you're still misinformed. YOU speak and write in English, not Chinese or Swahili. The influx of European immigrants and the turn of the 20th century gave way to the greatest nation you currently live in. The Ancient Greeks and Romans basically gave the world everything from science to civilization. The Vikings were the first Europeans to discover America. Need I name Galileo, Capernicus, Da Vinci? Or more modern names like Yuri Gagerin, Nikola Tesla, Karl Benz, Tim Berners-Lee? What hasheesh have you been smoking if you think the Mayans were technologically sound than any European? They don't even exist anymore.

[Nick Young]

I'm sorry you're still misinformed. YOU speak and write in English, not Chinese or Swahili. The influx of European immigrants and the turn of the 20th century gave way to the greatest nation you currently live in. The Ancient Greeks and Romans basically gave the world everything from science to civilization. The Vikings were the first Europeans to discover America. Need I name Galileo, Capernicus, Da Vinci? Or more modern names like Yuri Gagerin, Nikola Tesla, Karl Benz, Tim Berners-Lee? What hasheesh have you been smoking if you think the Mayans were technologically sound than any European? They don't even exist anymore.
where did you learn that mass of bullshit?:lol :lol :lol

The Chinese and Arabs were ahead of Europe in the field of science for the majority of human history.

Look at Nick Tesla-couldn't do what he wanted in Serbia so he MOVED TO AMERICA AND BECAME AN AMERICAN.

[miggyme1]

wow.

i just moved to florida and i noticed how everyone here rides around in their vehicles with their country flag in their car.

it confused me cuz i was like it makes no sense if u were born here in the states. it gave me the impression that alot of people here in florida are ashamed to be an american or they feel they better than everybody cuz they from an island.lol

so i tend not to befriend anybody thats riding around with their "native" flag or parents native flag all over they car. i know me personally i dont care where u from or your parents if u cool....u cool.

[kentatm]

He's right doe. The slaves weren't for the most part stolen or kidnapped like you're pretending. They were sold to the Europeans and Americans by their own people in exchange for goods. The slave traders in Africa deserve just as much blame as the Europeans and Americans, if not more as they are the ones who popularized the idea of slavery to the Europeans in the first place.

If reparations ever come, they should come from African countries giving money to African Americans whose families were in the slave trade. African Americans should be demanding reparations from African governments, not the American one.


Like I'm pretending? lol wut?

What does it matter "who" physically kidnapped them when they still ended up in the New World as slaves against their will? They were kidnapped and ended up here. The end.

and why the **** are you rambling about reparations when nobody brought it up?

and :lol at saying Africans popularized slavery brah. Euros already had that shit well before they started ****ing with Africa.

Bottom line is the foundation of the USofA was heavily built off of slave labor. This is not a deniable fact.

[MightyWhitey]

off the backs of slaves they kidnapped from Africa but lets just ignore that part and give all the credit to whitey :lol
Ohhhh Puuuuhhhhhleeeeeaaaaaase. Because those slaves built EVERYTHING in America right? They also invented space travel, the television, the radio, the automobile, the steam boat, the rail road, the computer and the internet right :lol

European minds, European ideas, European ideals that is what made America AMERICA!

[MightyWhitey]

where did you learn that mass of bullshit?:lol :lol :lol

The Chinese and Arabs were ahead of Europe in the field of science for the majority of human history.

Look at Nick Tesla-couldn't do what he wanted in Serbia so he MOVED TO AMERICA AND BECAME AN AMERICAN.
Ok I don't know what revisionist history you've been smoking but lay off the pipe dude.

Nikola Tesla moved to America and became a great American with his European mind. Thank you for confirming what I've already said Nick :applause:

[Nick Young]

Like I'm pretending? lol wut?

What does it matter "who" physically kidnapped them when they still ended up in the New World as slaves against their will? They were kidnapped and ended up here. The end.

and why the **** are you rambling about reparations when nobody brought it up?

and :lol at saying Africans popularized slavery brah. Euros already had that shit well before they started ****ing with Africa.

Bottom line is the foundation of the USofA was heavily built off of slave labor. This is not a deniable fact.
Euros had serfdom and feudalism which was very nearly slavery. But the idea of trading human slaves as if they were cattle or sheep was invented in the Arab world and Africa, and introduced to Europeans by Arabs and Africans. The Africans and Arabs are responsible for starting the Atlantic slave trade in the first place, and yet these people never get any blame.

The foundations of the USA are built on the founding fathers and their constitution, and the French army for winning the revolutionary war for us.

Slavery kept the economy going in the south but I dont think it is justified to claim they were the foundation of the entire country XD

[boozehound]

American is not a race. Anyone who asks for a race and expects a nationality in return is a dumbass. There may be some exceptions though for people who don't really fall under a racial group defined by the US.
race isnt really a race either. there is no biological basis for human races. They are cultural constructs and highly variable.

[kentatm]

Ohhhh Puuuuhhhhhleeeeeaaaaaase. Because those slaves built EVERYTHING in America right? They also invented space travel, the television, the radio, the automobile, the steam boat, the rail road, the computer and the internet right :lol

European minds, European ideas, European ideals that is what made America AMERICA!


hey dumb shit

did I say that?

no? then get your head out of your ass.

there wouldn't have been a country of all that to develop had slaves not built up the country in the first place.

This isn't some basic ass grade school 1+1=2 herp derp bullshit

A -> B -> C -> D -> E

try to think past more than 1 step little one.

[MightyWhitey]

Euros had serfdom and feudalism which was very nearly slavery. But the idea of trading human slaves as if they were cattle or sheep was invented in the Arab world and Africa, and introduced to Europeans by Arabs and Africans.
What a crock of sh!t. The Ancient Greeks had "Barbarian" slaves, with no help of any Arab. Slavery is an inherit Human trait, not a geographical specific trait.

[KingBeasley08]

Ok I don't know what revisionist history you've been smoking but lay off the pipe dude.

Nikola Tesla moved to America and became a great American with his European mind. Thank you for confirming what I've already said Nick :applause:
He's right doe. Industrial Revolution onwards, yea Europe was the top dawg. Before that, the Chinese and Arabs were just as good if not better

[DeuceWallaces]

hey dumb shit

did I say that?

no? then get your head out of your ass.

there wouldn't have been a country of all that to develop had slaves not built up the country in the first place.

This isn't some basic ass grade school 1+1=2 herp derp bullshit

A -> B -> C -> D -> E

try to think past more than 1 step little one.

Just try to ignore the trolls.

[MightyWhitey]

hey dumb shit

did I say that?

no? then get your head out of your ass.

there wouldn't have been a country of all that to develop had slaves not built up the country in the first place.

This isn't some basic ass grade school 1+1=2 herp derp bullshit

A -> B -> C -> D -> E

try to think past more than 1 step little one.Yes slaves built everything in America :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Nick Young]

hey dumb shit

did I say that?

no? then get your head out of your ass.

there wouldn't have been a country of all that to develop had slaves not built up the country in the first place.

This isn't some basic ass grade school 1+1=2 herp derp bullshit

A -> B -> C -> D -> E

try to think past more than 1 step little one.
did you read that in a 4th grade history book?

Slaves didn't build up the country in the first place. All they did was labor. If slaves weren't around, some other system would have been put in to place and some other people would have been exploited for cheap labor.

Maybe the cotton gin might have even been invented faster without slavery. Slavery did nothing but hold the country back.

[kentatm]

Euros had serfdom and feudalism which was very nearly slavery. But the idea of trading human slaves as if they were cattle or sheep was invented in the Arab world and Africa, and introduced to Europeans by Arabs and Africans.


:lol

Let's just forget when the Roman Empire ruled most of Europe then ehh? They weren't trading human slaves like cattle at all! Nah. Euros had no idea that went down and had to learn about it from Arabs and Africans. :rolleyes:



The foundations of the USA are built on the founding fathers and their constitution, and the French army for winning the revolutionary war for us.

Nope. It was built buy a bunch of Brits looking to make a quick buck.



Slavery kept the economy going in the south but I dont think it is justified to claim they were the foundation of the entire country XD


did you read that in a 4th grade history book?

Slaves didn't build up the country in the first place. All they did was labor. If slaves weren't around, some other system would have been put in to place and some other people would have been exploited for cheap labor.

Maybe the cotton gin might have even been invented faster without slavery. Slavery did nothing but hold the country back.


slaves were not just in the South and the US was mostly an agrarian society for quite a long time. W/o slaves making the colonies profitable via cheap labor the English never would have stuck around in the first place.

The original reason explorers were coming over here was to find gold. Brits didn't get much of any and really had no reason to put much effort into colonizing America until tobacco and other agricultural products took off. Those products had such a high profit margin as a direct result of slave labor.

Without that England never would have invested in their colonies and the US land owners never would have made enough money or gained enough local power that they would have a reason to tell England to piss off.

Again, if that cheap ass labor wasn't there to help boost initial profits the American British colonies really wouldn't have been worth the investment.

[Nick Young]

What a crock of sh!t. The Ancient Greeks had "Barbarian" slaves, with no help of any Arab. Slavery is an inherit Human trait, not a geographical specific trait.
Did you know that when Christianity took over Europe, Europeans gave up on slavery?

The Vikings still had slaves but once they converted to Christianity, they gave them up too.

You ever heard of a guy named St. Patrick, fighting against slavery? He was just one of many christian missionaries in Europe who helped bring an end to slavery in Europe. (until the Portugese started it up again hundreds of years later)

Meanwhile though, at the same time as Europe was outlawing slavery, Africa and the Arab world were still revelling in it! They are the ones who reintroduced slavery to Europe remember! They planted the idea into European heads that because the African slaves had a different skin colour, it was ok to start slavery again even though it was un-Christian.

When left to their own devices, Europeans outlawed slavery.

Feudalism and serfdom can be appropriated with slavery but they are fundamentally different systems.

It was only after getting into contact with African and Arab slave traders that they started slavery again. Great influence Africa!

[Nick Young]

:lol

Let's just forget when the Roman Empire ruled most of Europe then ehh? They weren't trading human slaves like cattle at all! Nah. Euros had no idea that went down and had to learn about it from Arabs and Africans. :rolleyes:

Let's just forget when the Roman Empire became Christian and eventually post-Roman empire how slavery was outlawed in Europe completely ehhh?

Learn real history, not 4th Grade History Book history.

[Akrazotile]

race isnt really a race either. there is no biological basis for human races. They are cultural constructs and highly variable.

"Race" is obviously an ambiguous term, but genetic grouping is clearly a reality. Particular evolutionary traits can be traced to people from specific regions due either to environmental factors or the founder effect.

It's like saying there's no biological basis for separating dachshunds and golden retrievers. They're both canines. They can interbreed. Yet still, you can tell they're pretty clearly genetically distinct.


So many people are afraid to go down the "what our are biological differences" road because they don't want to give any acknowledgment to facts they know some will use for politically incorrect purposes. But it seems pretty clear that historically there is obvious genetic distinction between peoples from various regions.

[kentatm]

Let's just forget when the Roman Empire became Christian and eventually post-Roman empire how slavery was outlawed in Europe completely ehhh?

Learn real history, not 4th Grade History Book history.

:rolleyes: :roll:

What you said was Arabs and Africans reintroduced slavery to the Euros.

That just isnt true b/c they always knew about it and many countries continued to practice it.

SOME Euro countries got rid of "technical" slavery but some did not.

Denmark allowed slavery until 1792. Spain was loaded with slaves during the Renaissance. They were common in Moldavia and Wallachia in the middle ages. etc etc etc

[BasedTom]

He's right doe. The slaves weren't for the most part stolen or kidnapped like you're pretending. They were sold to the Europeans and Americans by their own people in exchange for goods. The slave traders in Africa deserve just as much blame as the Europeans and Americans, if not more as they are the ones who popularized the idea of slavery to the Europeans in the first place.

If reparations ever come, they should come from African countries giving money to African Americans whose families were in the slave trade. African Americans should be demanding reparations from African governments, not the American one.
I find it funny when black people give their children Islamic names. It's usually the same people who hate on the "evil" european christians and are unaware that Islamic warriors spread their religion by the sword, and that they were VERY fond of slaves. Africans were not just peacefully living in utopian isolation until suddenly the Europeans landed on their shores...

Sometimes it's black people trying to be trendy, other times it's supremacists.

[DukeDelonte13]

My parents are italian immigrants. 95% of their friends are Italian, i've been surronded by Italians my whole life, i'm a dual citizen, but i've never lived in Italy although I've visited there numerous times.

My parents obviously identify themselves as Italian, they call us kids "americanized" and they mean it in a bad way.

There is a stark difference culturally between Italian parenting and values vs. American parenting and values, some good some bad, etc. It goes both ways.

Italian parents would never ever charge their kids rent, make their kids pay for things if they can help it, never do day care, always cook every night no matter what, and be very connected to their children for the rest of their lives.

I feel like American parents give their kids much more freedom and autonomy but aren't as giving and/or generous as Italian parents. American parents don't distinguish too much between girls and boys but Italians parent sons and daughters pretty damn differently.


Typical off the boat Italian view of American people is that they are lazy, can't cook, and can't manage money. Obviously that isn't true (except for the cooking part :oldlol: ) but there definitely is a negative perception of typical American people, and it's not really just Italians, most euros think that same way about americans.

[ace23]

My parents obviously identify themselves as Italian, they call us kids "americanized" and they mean it in a bad way.

There is a stark difference culturally between Italian parenting and values vs. American parenting and values, some good some bad, etc. It goes both ways.

Italian parents would never ever charge their kids rent, make their kids pay for things if they can help it, never do day care, always cook every night no matter what, and be very connected to their children for the rest of their lives.

I feel like American parents give their kids much more freedom and autonomy but aren't as giving and/or generous as Italian parents. American parents don't distinguish too much between girls and boys but Italians parent sons and daughters pretty damn differently.


Typical off the boat Italian view of American people is that they are lazy, can't cook, and can't manage money. Obviously that isn't true (except for the cooking part :oldlol: ) but there definitely is a negative perception of typical American people, and it's not really just Italians, most euros think that same way about americans.
You could replace Italian with most other nationalities here.

[Akrazotile]

I find it funny when black people give their children Islamic names. It's usually the same people who hate on the "evil" european christians and are unaware that Islamic warriors spread their religion by the sword, and that they were VERY fond of slaves. Africans were not just peacefully living in utopian isolation until suddenly the Europeans landed on their shores...

Sometimes it's black people trying to be trendy, other times it's supremacists.


Historically, Islamic hierarchy is famously meritocratic. For better or for worse their focus was always on who could lead the religion/culture most effectively. Many Africans rose in the Islamic hierarchy. The middle east is a very diverse area and has, throughout history, been far less consumed by racial considerations than places like Europe and Asia. Of course many Africans were slaughtered or enslaved, as were many other groups but it wasn't because of their race. It was because of things like land or heresy or just plain savagery of the invaders.

[ClutchOver9000]

If you're abroad and get asked by a local of a particular country "what are you", you'd most likely say American.

Why?

Because you are in a foreign country, therefore you'd use your nationality (country of birth/citizenship) as a personal identifier.


BUT if you're back home in the States and get asked "what are you", assuming you don't have a foreign accent, most people say their racial makeup or ethnicity.

Why?

Because its already assumed you're an American and most likely they want to know about your background therefore you'd use your ethnic origin as a personal identifier.

[The Iron Fist]

These kinds of people are lameasses. Whenever someone claims "Im German Irish" or some other bullshit combination when their family has been in America for 100 years+ and they are actually American, I know that person is an asshole. Alot of East Coast people, especially Bostoners try to pull off this bullshit for some reason.

The worst are people who are like "Im cherokee" or "Im a Navajo" when theyre like 1/128th cherokee MAX if at all.

Also what pisses me off is like 3rd generation kids born here whose grand parents are from like Panama or Mexico or El Salvador and those asshole kids dont even speak Spanish claim shit like "Im El Salvadorian". GTFO

I dunno why more people aren't proud to just say "Im American." We're the GOAT nation and the modern version of Rome.

Most of the world envies us. Despite what everyone says "THE WHOLE WORLD HATES AMERICANS" it's not even true, most of the world these days, including Iranians even have a positive attitude towards Americans accorrding to opinion polls. Even Eurosnob assholes wear American style clothes, listen to American music and watch american films and TV and dream about going to New York or LA. It should be a symbol of pride to say you're American. This is one of the things that the south has gotten right.


http://www.californianature.net/cesar-chavez.jpg

When people first see him, the majority of people don't think "american". They think "mexican". But he was born in Yuma, Arizona. Blame white people for labeling everyone based on their ethnicity in the first place.

http://nationalbrownberets.com/LaCausa/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/no-mexicans.jpg

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/immigration/hollywood.jpg

http://www.umbc.edu/cadvc/foralltheworld/images/exhibit/section1/segregation2.jpg

[atljonesbro]

If you were born in American and lived most of your life in America you're American. Your great grandparents living in Italy and you visiting there once or twice doesn't make you Italian lol. I feel like people just want to feel "exotic".

[Akrazotile]

http://www.californianature.net/cesar-chavez.jpg

When people first see him, the majority of people don't think "american". They think "mexican". But he was born in Yuma, Arizona. Blame white people for labeling everyone based on their ethnicity in the first place.

http://nationalbrownberets.com/LaCausa/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/no-mexicans.jpg

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/immigration/hollywood.jpg

http://www.umbc.edu/cadvc/foralltheworld/images/exhibit/section1/segregation2.jpg


This is no time for nostalgia my dude.

[MightyWhitey]

http://www.californianature.net/cesar-chavez.jpg

When people first see him, the majority of people don't think "american". They think "mexican". But he was born in Yuma, Arizona. Blame white people for labeling everyone based on their ethnicity in the first place.:hammerhead: Yes the white devil did it. That white devil who gave the world modern hospitals, transportation, literature, economy, and mobile phones is the reason why nonwhites call themselves anything but American :oldlol: that is rich right there.

[MightyWhitey]

If you were born in American and lived most of your life in America you're American. Your great grandparents living in Italy and you visiting there once or twice doesn't make you Italian lol. I feel like people just want to feel "exotic".
Nothing exotic in knowing and acknowledging your ethnic breakdown. When America comes up with its own American language called American then people can dutifully use this label as an ethnic denominator in a few hundred years or so. I know many proud and patriotic Americans who are ethnically this that and whatever and they understand the difference between ethnicity and nationality.

[IamRAMBO24]

If you born in America and your parents were, your place of origin and heritage is America.

If the last member of your family born in Ireland was old great great grandpa Paddy MacBillabong from 200 years ago you don't have any right to claim you are Irish, it just makes you look like an ungrateful poser jackass. These people should go to Ireland and claim to be Irish, see how they're treated over there. They get mocked like the jackasses they are, I've seen it happen multiple times with my own eyes. Mostly East Coast douchebags try to pull this shit more then anyone else for some reason. If I was an East Coast douchebag I'd be f*cking proud of being American, they were the ones who first fought off the English after all.

It's alot like when African Americans go over to Kenya and try to pull shit like "I did a DNA test and my people are Masai". Africans just call African Americans white and don't really respect them, ESPECIALLY if they try to claim they're African.

NO ONE from these countries likes these poser Americans pretending to be from from their country, so why would you want to be one of those American poser douchebags that no one has any respect for?

Stupid.

Who the hell says they are american in f*ckin america? If someone ask me what race I am, of course they are implying what ethnic group I belong to. If I'm in a different country, of course I will say I'm from America. It has nothing to do with people being ashame of calling themselves americans; it's just stupid saying you're american when someone ask you what race you are when you're already in america.

[step_back]

An American responding to a question about his race and replying with American is so very American....:roll:

[Nick Young]

:hammerhead: Yes the white devil did it. That white devil who gave the world modern hospitals, transportation, literature, economy, and mobile phones is the reason why nonwhites call themselves anything but American :oldlol: that is rich right there.
Let's blame all white people today for things that some other white people in the past did 50+ years ago. All white people today should feel guilty for what those white people in the past did.

Let's blame all Africans today for selling their brothers and sisters into slavery to Europeans. All Africans should be raised to feel guilty for what their ancestors did 200+years ago.


Let's blame all Japanese today for what Japanese people 60+ years ago did to Chinese prisoners in research camps. All Japanese people today should be blamed and feel guilty for what those Japanese people 60+ years ago did.


Let's blame all Spanish people today for wiping out the Aztecs and Inca. All Spanish people today should be blamed and raised to feel guilty for things other Spanish people did 500+ years ago.

Let's blame all Mongolians today. All Mongolians should be raised to feel guilt and shame, and blamed for what their ancestors did too the Chinese 800+ years ago.

[Nick Young]

An American responding to a question about his race and replying with American is so very American....:roll:
If they ask what race you are and you are white, why do people answer "I'm German Irish" when German and Irish are NATIONALITIES not ETHNICITIES?:confusedshrug:

Why not just say "I'm a white American"

Why do white East Coast douchebags try to pull this shit more then the rest of Americans?

[IamRAMBO24]

An American responding to a question about his race and replying with American is so very American....:roll:

This is the typical conversation Nick Young has:

Guy: hey so where are you from?

NY: I'm from america.

Guy: ummm .. ok

NY: I'm american.

Guy: :facepalm what a dumbf*ck.

[dr.hee]

Let's blame all white people today for things that some other white people in the past did 50+ years ago. All white people today should feel guilty for what those white people in the past did.

Let's blame all Africans today for selling their brothers and sisters into slavery to Europeans. All Africans should be raised to feel guilty for what their ancestors did 200+years ago.


Let's blame all Japanese today for what Japanese people 60+ years ago did to Chinese prisoners in research camps. All Japanese people today should be blamed and feel guilty for what those Japanese people 60+ years ago did.


Let's blame all Spanish people today for wiping out the Aztecs and Inca. All Spanish people today should be blamed and raised to feel guilty for things other Spanish people did 500+ years ago.

Let's blame all Mongolians today. All Mongolians should be raised to feel guilt and shame, and blamed for what their ancestors did too the Chinese 800+ years ago.

Well since the whole point of patriotism is simpletons taking credit for things their ancestors achieved, it's surely no problem to take the blame with it, right? Or are we cherry picking the things we're attaching to our imaginary self worth concept? The logical consequence of your type of argument is the absence of both being proud of and taking blame for actions/achievements of someone's ancestors.

So I guess you've just refuted patriotism :applause:

[IamRAMBO24]

If they ask what race you are and you are white, why do people answer "I'm German Irish" when German and Irish are NATIONALITIES not ETHNICITIES?:confusedshrug:

Why not just say "I'm a white American"

Why do white East Coast douchebags try to pull this shit more then the rest of Americans?

If you are in america, it is pretty common knowledge you're a f*ckin american. It's like saying hey this is where I'm from, but guess what, I'm a guy too and I breathe air!

You're pulling sh*t out of your a*s to cultivate your racism like you did in the chinese thread. This is just another lame excuse for you to hate on people of different ethnic groups. I'm vietnamese and I'm not going to be a f*ckin retard and say I'm american when it's pretty clear I am since I'm living in f*ckin america and the question is being asked in america.

[Nick Young]

This is the typical conversation Nick Young has:

Guy: hey so where are you from?

NY: I'm from america.

Guy: ummm .. ok

NY: I'm american.

Guy: :facepalm what a dumbf*ck.

The conversation you invented has never happened to me in my life.



This is how it usually goes:

english person: Oi where you from mate
Me: America (sometimes I say California)
English person: O SHIT AMERICA which part?
Me: San Fernando Valley, it's like the lame part of LA
English person: O SHIT YOU FROM LA? DAMN! LA MAN! What you doing over here? I always wanted to go to LA

ALTERNATIVE VERSION:

Person: "Where you from"
me: America (sometimes I say California, cus Im a damn proud Californian too)
Person: Oh yeah I thought so cus of the accent
Subject change


ALTERNATIVE VERSION-this is from obnoxious politicos
person: Where you from
me: America
person: I f*cking hate Americans. hhahaa just playing man, just playin.
me: haha (inside:facepalm I know where this shit is going)
person: *blahblahblah I hate american foreign policy blahblah*
me: I dont care about politics
person:blahblah the other thing you americans do blahblah sarah palin bullshit
me: Im not the US government I dont speak for all americans
person: yeah but :blahblah more US foreign policy bullshit I dont care about
me:..........(eject as soon as possible)


Alternative version-usually chav girl or Euro chick
girl: YOURE FROM LA?
BLAH BLAH reality show bullshit blahlbah WOW LA blah blah


If you answer "o Im American but really Im Scotch Irish" you just come off as a poser wannabe douchebag.

[MightyWhitey]

If they ask what race you are and you are white, why do people answer "I'm German Irish" when German and Irish are NATIONALITIES not ETHNICITIES?:confusedshrug:

Why not just say "I'm a white American"

Why do white East Coast douchebags try to pull this shit more then the rest of Americans?
German and Irish are separate ethnicities. One with its own unique language and the other whose unique language and customs was phased out with time. I don't know many Americans of European descent who go into a whole rant on their ethnic make up. They usually talk about it when specifically asked. South Americans never say they're American and the majority don't bother learning the English language and I find that absurd.

[IamRAMBO24]

No.

1. You said you refer to yourself as an american when asked where you were from.

2.I pointed out that was a dumba*s response.

Now you are back tracking and claiming you're a "californian."

[Nick Young]

No.

1. You said you refer to yourself as an american when asked where you were from.

2.I pointed out that was a dumba*s response.

Now you are back tracking and claiming you're a "californian."
I always say American but like 20% of the time I say Californian just to change things up.

When I say Im American Im always asked "which part" anyways then I say California. The conversation always starts off exactly the same whatever country I go to.

The same conversation gets boring over and over so I change it up sometimes.

Im not backtracking dumbass. Just telling you how it is.

[Nick Young]

Well since the whole point of patriotism is simpletons taking credit for things their ancestors achieved, it's surely no problem to take the blame with it, right? Or are we cherry picking the things we're attaching to our imaginary self worth concept? The logical consequence of your type of argument is the absence of both being proud of and taking blame for actions/achievements of someone's ancestors.

So I guess you've just refuted patriotism :applause:

not really but if it helps you feel clever about yourself, keep believing it. Are you Millwall or something? Your stalkage of me is going into creepy Millwall level territory here.

[dr.hee]

not really but if it helps you feel clever about yourself, keep believing it. Are you Millwall or something? Your stalkage of me is going into creepy Millwall level territory here.

That's the best you can do bruh? You should stick to a bit simpler topics bruh, this is way over your head bruh.

:roll:

[IamRAMBO24]

I always say American but like 20% of the time I say Californian just to change things up.

When I say Im American Im always asked "which part" anyways then I say California. The conversation always starts off exactly the same whatever country I go to.

The same conversation gets boring over and over so I change it up sometimes.

Im not backtracking dumbass. Just telling you how it is.

Why the f*ck would you say you're american when the person asking the question probably knows you are. I mean that's just stupid. And the question is prob referring to ancestral ethnicity, so if you say you are californian (which doesn't even answer the question), then the person would look at you like you are a dumba*s, which you are for even saying you're american when you are in f*ckin america.

You're retarded.

[Nick Young]

That's the best you can do bruh? You should stick to a bit simpler topics bruh, this is way over your head bruh.

:roll:

Christ Im sick of trying to have normal conversations with people online with serious mental issues. I know you got some brain malfunctions bruh but can you just get off my nuts already and start fixating on someone else? Farewell, old sport.


Why the f*ck would you say you're american when the person asking the question probably knows you are. I mean that's just stupid. And the question is prob referring to ethnicity, so if you say you are californian (which doesn't even answer the question), then the person would look at you like you are a dumba*s, which you are for even saying you're american when you are in f*ckin america.

You're retarded.
I could be Canadian. Sometimes people think Im polish or German or Irish. Euros with English as a second language cant recognize my accent a lot of the time.

That's just how the world works kid. Sometimes you need to have civil conversations with people to get by. You should try it one day kid.

There is nothing 'dumba*s about telling people I'm American when I am.

[dr.hee]

Christ Im sick of trying to have normal conversations with people online with serious mental issues. Farewell, old sport

Normal conversation? I'm actually interested in the reason you're rejecting the idea of taking collective blame for negative actions of your ancestors while using their positive actions as a source for collective self worth. Looks a bit shaky to me, but maybe you have good reasons for it. Which you could explain (also known as "a conversation").

[KevinNYC]

They rather claim the country their parents came from instead of the country that has hot water and lights that can actually turn on.

I'm American with Dominican parents and ancestry. I don't claim it like it's my country and I grew up there. That shit makes me sick. People of all Spanish races love to do that. It annoys the hell out of me, as if they're arnt blessed to be born here :rolleyes:

Someone who tells you what their ethnicity/ancestry are NOT NOT claiming to be an American.

You're talking about different things.

[IamRAMBO24]

There is nothing 'dumba*s about telling people I'm American when I am.

It is completely retarded. The conversation would prob go like this:

Guy: hey so where are you from?

You: I'm californian.

Guy: ummmm ok .. so am I. This is california afterall. No really, what ethnicity of origin are you?

You: I'm american.

Guy: ok I kind of figure that out since we are in america and you have a redneck accent. I meant where did your parents came from?

You: I'm a white american.

Guy: Oh this whole time I thought you were black with those blue eyes, white skin, and blonde hair.

You: Yea I'm also human. I'm from earth.

Guy: what the f*ck is wrong with you?

[christian1923]

Someone who tells you what their ethnicity/ancestry are NOT NOT claiming to be an American.

You're talking about different things.
I know I just think it's silly how you can be more proud of a country your ancestors are from than the country you are from. I tell people I'm dominican I just don't claim it likes it my home. It's not. But I see a lot of people doing it and I don't get it. I don't see Gohan claiming planet vegeta, he claims earth.

[red1]

because murrica sucks dick





http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ARINnG-zmGs/TtCmaB-s6gI/AAAAAAAACnQ/tO7OLwEzMj4/s1600/Come+at+me+bro%2521s.jpg

[ALBballer]

Well there's a difference between ethnicity and nationality. When people ask what are you they usually are asking what ethnicity are you unless you are speaking with a foreigner.

[Bandito]

I know I just think it's silly how you can be more proud of a country your ancestors are from than the country you are from. I tell people I'm dominican I just don't claim it likes it my home. It's not. But I see a lot of people doing it and I don't get it. I don't see Gohan claiming planet vegeta, he claims earth.
Did this guy use Gohan as an example?:roll:

[ALBballer]

Did this guy use Gohan as an example?:roll:

Lol

[dr.hee]

Did this guy use Gohan as an example?:roll:

Maybe he meant Goran?

[christian1923]

Did this guy use Gohan as an example?:roll:
:lol

[tpols]

If they ask what race you are and you are white, why do people answer "I'm German Irish" when German and Irish are NATIONALITIES not ETHNICITIES?:confusedshrug:

Why not just say "I'm a white American"

Why do white East Coast douchebags try to pull this shit more then the rest of Americans?

So what should they say? My people come from the lands of North eastern Europe? Like that doesnt sound even more pretentious and douchey.:oldlol:

No ones being a douchebag or is afraid or ashamed to call themselves american.. its that theres a million different types of people in America so its just a stupid response unless youre in a foreign country.. might as well say youre from earth.

[flipogb]

other than natives, there are no such thing as Americans . there is just US citizenship

[9erempiree]

I don't get why people are so jealous of Americans. Yes, we have more freedom, beautiful places and women but that is not something to get jealous about.

If you want to be jealous, at least be jealous of my good looks, car, home or job.

[ace23]

It is completely retarded. The conversation would prob go like this:

Guy: hey so where are you from?

You: I'm californian.

Guy: ummmm ok .. so am I. This is california afterall. No really, what ethnicity are you?

You: I'm american.

Guy: ok I kind of figure that out since we are in america and you have a redneck accent. I meant where did your parents came from?

You: I'm a white american.

Guy: Oh this whole time I thought you were black with those blue eyes, white skin, and blonde hair.

You: Yea I'm also human. I'm from earth.

Guy: what the f*ck is wrong with you?
You should probably start hanging out with people who know the difference between race, ethnicity, and nationality. You sound stupid.

[IamRAMBO24]

You should probably start hanging out with people who know the difference between race, ethnicity, and nationality. You sound stupid.

Calling yourself an american is just stupid. Most people in the US are immigrants from another country (including whites), so they can identify themselves with their ancestral origin. Most likely when someone poses the question, they are prob wanting to know their ethnic ties, so when someone asks a chinese person where he is from, the answer they would expect is chinese and not american.

[TonyMontana]

The blood that runs through your veins is more instrumental in your mental/physical attributes than the geographical location you were born in. Science and biology notes these differences.

I consider "Americans" native americans.

[ace23]

Most likely when someone poses the question, they are prob wanting to know their ethnic ties, so when someone asks a chinese person where he is from, the answer they would expect is chinese and not american.
Yeah, you need to stop hanging out with retards.

[JohnFreeman]

Because the world collectively hates Americans

[ILLsmak]

Why does it matter what you are? It matters where you live and what your culture is as well as what you support.

The reason I would say I'm not American is because I don't support America. I am happy that I have hot water and suchly, but this country is ****ed up. A lot of people get shit on due to this whole 'capitalism' thing. How can one support that?

The only people who are American were here when we came here. I was born in America... it's a posh situation, but there is a lot of underhanded shit going on. Plus it seems like a lot of the American dream is straight up fantasy... some TV or eventually shit.

-Smak

[IamRAMBO24]

Yeah, you need to stop hanging out with retards.

Learn your history dumbsh*t. I doubt any asian, mexican, irish, german, etc. are gonna say "I'm american" when they can connect with their ancestral ties because it is a new country. They might identify with being american, but nobody in their right mind would ask someone and expect the response of "I'm american" because the only reason why the question would be brought up in the first place is to identify ancestral ties from somewhere else. Who the f*ck would want to find out if you are american if they already know you are?

OP is being a retard. Why are you supporting such a dumba*s position?

[ace23]

Learn your history dumbsh*t. I doubt any asian, mexican, irish, german, etc. are gonna say "I'm american" when they can connect with their ancestral ties because it is a new country. They might identify with being american, but nobody in their right mind would ask someone and expect the response of "I'm american" because the only reason why the question would be brought up in the first place is to identify ancestral ties from somewhere else. Who the f*ck would want to find out if you are american if they already know you are?

OP is being a retard. Why are you supporting such a dumba*s position?
Ask someone what?

[IamRAMBO24]

Ask someone what?

Ask a person their ancestral ethnicity and then get a reply of "I'm american." That is some dumb sh*t.

If I see an asian, and I ask him where he was originally from and he replies to me, "Oh I'm american," then I would be taken back by that response. It's like, "Dude I already know that sh*t. Where are you really from?"

It's a dumb response. Only op would be pompous enough to say that sh*t.

[ace23]

Ask a person their ancestral ethnicity and then get a reply of "I'm american." That is some dumb sh*t.

If I see an asian, and I ask him where he was originally from and he replies to me, "Oh I'm american," then I would be taken back by that response. It's like, "Dude I already know that sh*t. Where are you really from?"

It's a dumb response. Only op would be pompous enough to say that sh*t.
Oh so now it's "ancestral ethnicity" and not asking where the person's from?

[IamRAMBO24]

Oh so now it's "ancestral ethnicity" and not asking where the person's from?

When someone ask you where you are from, most likely they are within the vicinity you are in. For example, if you are in cali, and someone you just met asked where you are from, they're not expecting an answer like, "I'm a californian." That is a dumb response.

Let's say you traveled out of state and meet some new people and they ask you the same question and you say, "Oh I'm american." That's also stupid.

When that question is being posed, most likely they are trying to find out where you were originally from, your ancestral background. Otherwise they wouldn't even ask the question in the first place if they know you are white and american. Deviating from the intent of the question and saying something stupid like "I'm a californian american" is sidetracking from the question altogether when they could of been honest and said they are from mexico, china, vietnam, puerto rico, japan, etc. because that's what the person asking the question wanted to know.

Hence why I came to the conclusion the OP was being a complete f*cktard for saying that when that wasn't the intent of the question.

[ace23]

I'm never had someone ask me where I'm from wondering about my ancestral ancestry. I just say Houston.

Usually when people ask you where you're from, they want to know where you're from.

[IamRAMBO24]

I'm never had someone ask me where I'm from wondering about my ancestral ancestry. I just say Houston.

Usually when people ask you where you're from, they want to know where you're from.

Ok then you are either white, black, and obviously american.

For the rest of us lesser immigrants, when someone ask us where are we from, they usually mean what country of origin are we from. They don't expect a reply of "Oh I'm from america" because no sh*t we're in america. They really want to know where we came from.

So OP pretty much implied we are stupid for not saying we are american when the intent of the question and the way it was being posed was clearly directed towards our ancestral ties.

This is why he is a retard and so are you for supporting such a fallacious position.

[russwest0]

We're the assholes of Earth.

[ace23]

Ok then you are either white, black, and obviously american.

For the rest of us lesser immigrants, when someone ask us where are we from, they usually mean what country of origin are we from. They don't expect a reply of "Oh I'm from america" because no sh*t we're in america. They really want to know where we came from.

So OP pretty much implied we are stupid for not saying we are american when the intent of the question and the way it was being posed was clearly directed towards our ancestral ties.

This is why he is a retard and so are you for supporting such a fallacious position.
Get back to me when you learn how to read.

[IamRAMBO24]

Get back to me when you learn how to read.

:oldlol:

I called you, OP, and Nick Young out.

OP isn't posting anymore; Nick Young is too stupid to reply anymore; and you are sidetracking the argument.

It's pretty clear cut.

When someone is curious about where someone is from, they are curious about location and country of origin.

1. If you're in california and you say you're a californian, then you're a f*ckin dumba*s because that wasn't the intent of the question.

2. If the person thinks you immigrated from another country, which was the reason why they brought up the question in the first place, then you are a dumba*s if you say you are american.

Why?

Because you are not answering the f*ckin question.

[MadeFromDust]

Well if they're travelling the third world, then they're probably just being prudent due to all the mozlem terrorizers roaming around looking to behead or eat them.

[Nick Young]

Why does it matter what you are? It matters where you live and what your culture is as well as what you support.

The reason I would say I'm not American is because I don't support America. I am happy that I have hot water and suchly, but this country is ****ed up. A lot of people get shit on due to this whole 'capitalism' thing. How can one support that?

The only people who are American were here when we came here. I was born in America... it's a posh situation, but there is a lot of underhanded shit going on. Plus it seems like a lot of the American dream is straight up fantasy... some TV or eventually shit.

-Smak
Goddamn son, if you hate America and capitalism so much, why do you still live there? Get the phuck out and go live in North Korea. See how much you like it.

Goddamn ingrates pissing me off, don't realize how lucky they have it to be born and raised in the GOAT nation.

[Nick Young]

Because the world collectively hates Americans
Since 2005 America has actually had positive approval ratings all over the world. The rest of the world is actually more positive about America then Americans are, which is sad.

[9erempiree]

I sense a lot of jealousy towards Americans.

Don't hate me because I am beautiful. Like I said, we are the most influential country in the world.

I love the irony of how these people on ISH that complain about Americans are hanging out on an American message board and chatting about basketball, an American past time.

[Nick Young]

When someone ask you where you are from, most likely they are within the vicinity you are in. For example, if you are in cali, and someone you just met asked where you are from, they're not expecting an answer like, "I'm a californian." That is a dumb response.

Let's say you traveled out of state and meet some new people and they ask you the same question and you say, "Oh I'm american." That's also stupid.

When that question is being posed, most likely they are trying to find out where you were originally from, your ancestral background. Otherwise they wouldn't even ask the question in the first place if they know you are white and american. Deviating from the intent of the question and saying something stupid like "I'm a californian american" is sidetracking from the question altogether when they could of been honest and said they are from mexico, china, vietnam, puerto rico, japan, etc. because that's what the person asking the question wanted to know.

Hence why I came to the conclusion the OP was being a complete f*cktard for saying that when that wasn't the intent of the question.

Goddamn son, Im born and raising in Cali my whole life and no one EVER asks me what my ethnicity is. Non white people just call me a whiteboy or gringo they dont give a shit where the whiteness originated from. White people just don't care and never ask that shit.

When people do ask me "where you from" they are usually rednecks, or dumbasses from the east coast or midwest and moved here to "break in to hollywood" and I tell them California and they are happy with that answer. No one ever gets pissed off or says "where you really from retard".
When people ask "where you're from" they mean "where are you from" not "where are your people from before they got to America"


Where am I originally from? My grandparents were born in Cali. My parents were born in Cali. I was born in cali. Im originally from California and in a broader sense America.

IamRambo I think doesn't get out and talk to people very much. Why is this so important to him:roll:

[9erempiree]

When someone ask you where you are from, most likely they are within the vicinity you are in. For example, if you are in cali, and someone you just met asked where you are from, they're not expecting an answer like, "I'm a californian." That is a dumb response.

Let's say you traveled out of state and meet some new people and they ask you the same question and you say, "Oh I'm american." That's also stupid.

When that question is being posed, most likely they are trying to find out where you were originally from, your ancestral background. Otherwise they wouldn't even ask the question in the first place if they know you are white and american. Deviating from the intent of the question and saying something stupid like "I'm a californian american" is sidetracking from the question altogether when they could of been honest and said they are from mexico, china, vietnam, puerto rico, japan, etc. because that's what the person asking the question wanted to know.

Hence why I came to the conclusion the OP was being a complete f*cktard for saying that when that wasn't the intent of the question.

You are pretty dumb.

When I ask people this.... I don't ask, "Where are you from?" because that is stupid and a stereotype all by itself. Like the black guy, asian guy and the latin dude are suppose to be from Africa, China and Mexico?

How about the "What kind of food do you eat back home?" question that people ask.

Like I mentioned, if I saw someone of another ethnicity, I will be asking them what ethnicity are you?

In America, we don't assume where you came from, at least I don't, we are Americans.

We the best. Diversity rules.

[Nick Young]

I sense a lot of jealousy towards Americans.

Don't hate me because I am beautiful. Like I said, we are the most influential country in the world.

I love the irony of how these people on ISH that complain about Americans are hanging out on an American message board and chatting about basketball, an American past time.
Yep. It's pretty clear too when you visit alot of these shit countries like France, or Latvia or Croatia or any other country in Europe-SO MANY PEOPLE wear clothes with American flags on it, and every store has a ton of shirts with American flags or eagles or American cities on them like Miami or LA or confederate flags (which isnt considered racist in Europe for some reason, they dont understand what it means and liberal occupy dumbasses identify with it)

These people in these countries wear baseball caps with american teams on them too.

Only dumbasses claim the world hates America. The truth is that most of the world wants to be American, they even brand themselves with our flag voluntarily because they love America so much.

[JohnFreeman]

Yep. It's pretty clear too when you visit alot of these shit countries like France, or Latvia or Croatia or any other country in Europe-SO MANY PEOPLE wear clothes with American flags on it, and every store has a ton of shirts with American flags or eagles or American cities on them like Miami or LA or confederate flags (which isnt considered racist in Europe for some reason, they dont understand what it means and liberal occupy dumbasses identify with it)

These people in these countries wear baseball caps with american teams on them too.

Only dumbasses claim the world hates America. The truth is that most of the world wants to be American, they even brand themselves with our flag voluntarily because they love America so much.
People wear those for fashion, not as an American loving statement..

[Nick Young]

People wear those for fashion, not as an American loving statement..
doesn't matter how they justify it, they are still branding themselves with American flags or American cities.

The American government is probably semi-behind it, just like they were behind making abstract expressionism like Jackson Pollack fashionable in the 50s.

[MidRange]

Never heard anyone reply to "Where are you from?" with China or anything similar. It's usually Cali, NY, Nevada or something. If you ask an Asian or Hispanic who was born in a foriegn country they might reply with said country of origin, but that's not what op is talking about. The usual question one ask when trying to discover someones racial background is "What are you?" Black people will be like "Black" unless they're from one the Islands. Never asked a white person unless it looked they were mixed with something else. Someone asian or hispanic might just say spanish or asian, but most likely they'll tell you what country they or they're family is from.

It's pretty simple, if you're asking someone who is an obvious U.S Citizen where they are from in America. They shouldn't be like "America, wtf?" They also wouldnt be like "I'm from Trinidad and Tobago." They'll say Utah or something.

[9erempiree]

We invented the denim jean. Now, a staple, in what society wears.

Jeans are like underwear. You wear you undies and jeans.

http://www.brandstories.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/levis-logo.jpg

I see no reason to hate on Americans unless you jealous. We have brought so much to the world.

[step_back]

I sense a lot of jealousy towards Americans.

Don't hate me because I am beautiful. Like I said, we are the most influential country in the world.

I love the irony of how these people on ISH that complain about Americans are hanging out on an American message board and chatting about basketball, an American past time.

You and Nick Young constantly come out with arrogant statements and when people challenge that argument you either resort to "it's just jealousy" or "they have mental issues" when you can't formulate a decent response.

Come on step it up. It's boring and predictable. This is an interesting thread. Why do some Americans feel they have to lie about where they're from? Why would anyone feel the need to do it? Every person in the world feels a sense of patriotism to their country. Do you think the media is to blame? Are some Americans feeling guilty about their international effect on the rest of the world or is it something more domestic?

[9erempiree]

You and Nick Young constantly come out with arrogant statements and when people challenge that argument you either resort to "it's just jealousy" or "they have mental issues" when you can't formulate a decent response.

Come on step it up. It's boring and predictable. This is an interesting thread. Why do some Americans feel they have to lie about where they're from? Why would anyone feel the need to do it? Every person in the world feels a sense of patriotism to their country. Do you think the media is to blame? Are some Americans feeling guilty about their international effect on the rest of the world or is it something more domestic?

It is only boring because there is only a simple rebuttal. There is really no long winded debate on why we think we are the best. Just like people are not trying to argue the sky is another color besides blue.

Anyways, how are Americans lying where they are from when they are born there?

Heck, the immigrants that came over and got citizenship here are proud to say they are Americans.

[step_back]

It is only boring because there is only a simple rebuttal. There is really no long winded debate on why we think we are the best. Just like people are not trying to argue the sky is another color besides blue.

Anyways, how are Americans lying where they are from when they are born there?

Heck, the immigrants that came over and got citizenship here are proud to say they are Americans.

Again you didn't answer the question. If it's simple to answer then answer it :roll:

Why do some Americans not like to claim they're American?

[9erempiree]

The last couple of years, America have been a divided country. As of late, we are coming together stronger than ever. World Cup is in South America and Summer Olympics is on its way. People coming together.

It has been ok if you are from Europe and show pride for your country but when America does it, people like to bash us.

It's beginning.

http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/kattty/default/patriotic-fashion-celebrities-wear-american--large-msg-134140057468.jpg
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/kattty/default/patriotic-fashion-celebrities-wear-american--large-msg-13414006256.jpg
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/kattty/default/patriotic-fashion-celebrities-wear-american--large-msg-13414005854.jpg
http://ionetheurbandaily.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/bustarhymestrevortahiemsmith2012betdu58ienlpvrl.jp eg?w=405
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/kattty/default/patriotic-fashion-celebrities-wear-american--large-msg-134140056677.jpg
http://img4.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/480/83237712-the-girls.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Wn7F1NmT26Q/T9-oEC0RnmI/AAAAAAAAAB8/fgTa2eDvTx8/s1600/tumblr_lx69mrk6Re1r1gxq5o1_500-1.jpg

[step_back]

You still haven't answered the question. I guess you're either trolling or just not capable.:confusedshrug:

Hopefully Nick can give a solid answer.

[9erempiree]

You still haven't answered the question. I guess you're either trolling or just not capable.:confusedshrug:

Hopefully Nick can give a solid answer.

There is really no question to be asked. I am being honest with you.

Can you answer the question, why the English hate to admit that they love American culture?

I can only ask that question if it existed in American society but it doesn't.

Why do Italians who moved to America pretend they are not from Italy?

Why do expat Brits, pretend to be American and shop at Abercrombie?

I am older than most on here and I have never heard of an American pretending not to be an American. If they hate admitting to it, then why even live here?

[senelcoolidge]

I claim to be American.

[dr.hee]

We're the assholes of Earth.

Pretty much this

[Nick Young]

Again you didn't answer the question. If it's simple to answer then answer it :roll:

Why do some Americans not like to claim they're American?
I answered this question a billion times in this thread. Those kinds of Americans who apologize for being American or try to say shit like "im american but my great grandma is Irish and I basically am Irish" are shameful poser wannabe bullshitters. I cannot tell you for sure why they are ashamed of being from the GOAT nation. All I know is every time I hear someone apologize for being American when they introduce themselves I want to punch them in the face with star spangled brass knuckles.

[9erempiree]

Pretty much this

http://www.epiclol.com/cdn/pictures/2011/12/Come-Closer-german-funeral-home-ad-subway-tracks.jpg

[Nick Young]

This message is hidden because dr.hee is on your ignore list.
this aspy stalker earned it :banana: :roll: :roll: :roll: :djparty :djparty

[dr.hee]

Every person in the world feels a sense of patriotism to their country.

I think we should leave this behind as a species in the future. Considering what we know today about genetics and so on, people should realize how arbitrary the categorization of people according to their passport really is. I mean it's convenient in providing easy to digest stereotyptes for specific countries and their population, which is something humans enjoy very much, but apart from that? Is there a real good point to it?

[step_back]

There is really no question to be asked. I am being honest with you.

Can you answer the question, why the English hate to admit that they love American culture?

I can only ask that question if it existed in American society but it doesn't.

Why do Italians who moved to America pretend they are not from Italy?

Why do expat Brits, pretend to be American and shop at Abercrombie?

I am older than most on here and I have never heard of an American pretending not to be an American.

The English don't hate America. While some dislike the states no minority speaks for the majority. If the U.K didn't have a positive opinion on you guys we would never have pledged are allegiance to you. Just look at 9/11. We weren't attacked but we had your back. The head of our intelligence service gave the Bush administration access to every file we had on Al Qaeda which included the names of our agents. This was documented in the Book "The way of the knife" by American journalist Mark Mazzetti. You have absolutely no proof that the English hate the American culture. If you're going to make that claim the least you can do is provide a source. (Your opinion isn't one)

I also fail to understand why you think people wearing a particular brand of clothing automatically makes them want to be an American. I wear T-shirts from Uniqlo. Does that mean I want to be Japanese?

You also talk about immigration as if it's only selective to America. People emigrate to all corners of the Earth and have been doing so for thousands of years.

It's evident you can't answer the question.

[9erempiree]

I think we should leave this behind as a species in the future. Considering what we know today about genetics and so on, people should realize how arbitrary the categorization of people according to their passport really is. I mean it's convenient in providing easy to digest stereotyptes for specific countries and their population, which is something humans enjoy very much, but apart from that? Is there a real good point to it?

:facepalm

Stop being so straight. I know you don't believe.

Why don't you for once speak about what you believe in.

This deserves a triple :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[step_back]

I answered this question a billion times in this thread. Those kinds of Americans who apologize for being American or try to say shit like "im american but my great grandma is Irish and I basically am Irish" are shameful poser wannabe bullshitters. I cannot tell you for sure why they are ashamed of being from the GOAT nation. All I know is every time I hear someone apologize for being American when they introduce themselves I want to punch them in the face with star spangled brass knuckles.

At least you have the decency to admit it:cheers:

[dr.hee]

:facepalm

Stop being so straight. I know you don't believe.

Why don't you for once speak about what you believe in.

This deserves a triple :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Nah, in my opinion national pride is a pretty useless concept. Excluding the people we're actually interacting with, every member of our nation is a stranger to us just like the billions of other people all over the world. So why identify with a selected number of strangers based on nationality?

[9erempiree]

The English don't hate America. While some dislike the states no minority speaks for the majority. If the U.K didn't have a positive opinion on you guys we would never have pledged are allegiance to you. Just look at 9/11. We weren't attacked but we had your back. The head of our intelligence service gave the Bush administration access to every file we had on Al Qaeda which included the names of our agents. This was documented in the Book "The way of the knife" by American journalist Mark Mazzetti. You have absolutely no proof that the English hate the American culture. If you're going to make that claim the least you can do is provide a source. (Your opinion isn't one)

I also fail to understand why you think people wearing a particular brand of clothing automatically makes them want to be an American. I wear T-shirts from Uniqlo. Does that mean I want to be Japanese?

You also talk about immigration as if it's only selective to America. People emigrate to all corners of the Earth and have been doing so for thousands of years.

It's evident you can't answer the question.

What question do I have to answer?

I think the bigger question is, if these people are afraid to admit to being Americans then why are they living here? That is the question.

I never said a certain country hated our culture, if I did then that is not what I meant. Any country and their diplomats may not hate America but I am talking about the general public.

I am not speculating on hate or dislike. I am pointing out how much other people love us and envy us, Americans and America.

It's not so much about hating America. It is more about being envious and following our culture.

[9erempiree]

Nah, in my opinion national pride is a pretty useless concept. Excluding the people we're actually interacting with, every member of our nation is a stranger to us just like the billions of other people all over the world. So why identify with a selected number of strangers based on nationality?

National pride is important in this world.

Believe it or not, we are not equals. We may be equals as humans, which I believe and respect....BUT....it is where you are from that gives you that foundation to become who you are.

America is that rebel. We are fighting. We never give up.

That spirit of America yo!

[step_back]

What question do I have to answer?

Why do some Americans claim not to be American.

I think the bigger question is, if these people are afraid to admit to being Americans then why are they living here? That is the question.

That is another question, care to elaborate on why you think they're afraid?

I never said a certain country hated our culture, if I did then that is not what I meant. Any country and their diplomats may not hate America but I am talking about the general public.


You just claimed that the English hated American culture. I'm still waiting for proof that the general public here hates America.
I am not speculating on hate or dislike. I am pointing out how much other people love us and envy us, Americans and America.

It's not so much about hating America. It is more about being envious and following our culture.

Again what is your proof? You're entitled to your opinion in which case just say it's your opinion. There's nothing wrong with that if it's how you feel. But if you think it's fact provide some.

[JohnFreeman]

Nobody envy's Americans...

[Nick Young]

Nobody envy's Americans...
You are just in denial. Probably around 90% of the world does.

[JohnFreeman]

You are just in denial. Probably around 90% of the world does.
Maybe the people in extreme poverty, but not the sane world. 'Would love to send my kids to school in America so they can be shot"

[Nick Young]

Maybe the people in extreme poverty, but not the sane world. 'Would love to send my kids to school in America so they can be shot"
You are one of the 10%, probably from a rich country like Sweden or Switzerland. Yes these are nice countries but also very closet racist and very difficult to immigrate into. The reason people dream of coming to America and not Sweden is because they know American society will accept them no matter their race or religion, unlike closet racist Northern and Central Europeans.

[9erempiree]

You are one of the 10%, probably from a rich country like Sweden or Switzerland. Yes these are nice countries but also very closet racist and very difficult to immigrate into. The reason people dream of coming to America and not Sweden is because they know American society will accept them no matter their race or religion, unlike closet racist Northern and Central Europeans.

that rat poison.

[Ass Dan]

They rather claim the country their parents came from instead of the country that has hot water and lights that can actually turn on.

I'm American with Dominican parents and ancestry. I don't claim it like it's my country and I grew up there. That shit makes me sick. People of all Spanish races love to do that. It annoys the hell out of me, as if they're arnt blessed to be born here :rolleyes:

The reality is America puts this designation on the people.

Census bureau demands this shit, and where you live, your style, what you eat says a lot more about your culture than your passport (and oddly enough the most 'American' people don't even have one).

I live in Southern California, probably the most ethnically diverse part of the country, but it is basically segregated as f*ck.

Each little city or neighbourhood has their own ethnic flavour. I think it is a bad thing because being American forces you to think in terms of your ancestry, and not your reality.

[MMM]

People don't claim to be American because of idiots like 9er and Nick Young

[JohnFreeman]

People don't claim to be American because of idiots like 9er and Nick Young
Pretty much, they fill the arrogant American stereotype

[FPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8zO_DV09QE

:rockon:

[Nick Young]

Pretty much, they fill the arrogant American stereotype
The Pax Romana era Romans had the right to be arrogant because they were the best. Americans living today have just as much right.


I agree though, LA has one of the most ethnically diverse populations in the entire world, but every race segregates themselves, even little kids growing up in middle school. Even LA, one of the least racist parts of the country was really racist.

That's the part I didn't like about America and what I love about London. London is the one city I've been to where race and where you're from hardly seems to matter and everyone lives next to eachother and gets along. It's also the only city I've been to where I see so many mixed race gangs. In the US all the gangster kids are ethnically divided. It's the only city in the world I've been to where there's genuine and true segregation, especially compared to racist as hell LA. It's the only place I can hang out with people who aren't white and not get called a whiteboy every 3 minutes, like what always happens in America.

At the same time though its not as racist as a North European closet racist country like Sweden where people on the street stop and actively point at dark skinned or asian people, and where the Swedes say a shit ton of racist things without even realizing they being racist.

Maybe New York is like London too, I was only there a week when I was 14 so I wasnt noticing that stuff back then.

[nightprowler10]

When people ask you what your race is in America its already known your american. If someone asked me my race and I said I'm american theyd look at me like I was being a smartass.
This. You're pretty much expected to say where your parents are from otherwise you get the "but where are you really from?"

[tmacattack33]

Well if you're talking to someone in america, they are obviously american in the sense they were probably born here.

So it'd be kinda pointless for them to tell u they are american.

So they go back a few generations and tell you where their great grandparents are from.

No big deal.

[riseagainst]

everyone wants to live in America, but, let's be honest, no one actually wants to be claimed as an American. Americans have a bad reputation globally.

[Nick Young]

everyone wants to live in America, but, let's be honest, no one actually wants to be claimed as an American. Americans have a bad reputation globally.
Wrong wrong wrong. The world actually has a positive approval rating of Americans and America. The rest of the world actually has a higher approval of America then Americans do, which is sad.

I know its the cool thing for liberals to say "the rest of the world hates us" but the truth is, that hasn't been the case since about 2005.

[-p.tiddy-]

Wrong wrong wrong. The world actually has a positive approval rating of Americans and America. The rest of the world actually has a higher approval of America then Americans do, which is sad.

I know its the cool thing for liberals to say "the rest of the world hates us" but the truth is, that hasn't been the case since about 2005.
I believe this

some of the most anti-American people are Americans :facepalm

much of the rest of the world envies the US...many risk their lives just trying to get here

there are countries out there that DO look down on the US...but they are in the minority

[ZenMaster]

Wrong wrong wrong. The world actually has a positive approval rating of Americans and America. The rest of the world actually has a higher approval of America then Americans do, which is sad.

I know its the cool thing for liberals to say "the rest of the world hates us" but the truth is, that hasn't been the case since about 2005.

Link to those approval studies?

Would like to see how they did it because it sounds fairly stupid.

[Nick Young]

Link to those approval studies?

Would like to see how they did it because it sounds fairly stupid.
twas from a cracked.com article

[Nick Young]

I believe this

some of the most anti-American people are Americans :facepalm

much of the rest of the world envies the US...many risk their lives just trying to get here

there are countries out there that DO look down on the US...but they are in the minority
Somalia, Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea, most of the middle east, but apart from them pretty much the whole world has a positive view of America. Even Iranians have a positive view of Americans, it is the American government they aren't generally fans of, but they are smart enough to recognize the difference between normal people and the government.

[-p.tiddy-]

many of the people running around claiming that Americans are stupid?...are Americans (the irony)

the reality is a huge % of Americans are extremely educated...we have the world's best schools, we also have the world's best hospitals/doctors/tech

also there is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_per_capita_personal_income

we've managed to put ourselves in a situation where the average citizen makes more on average than ANYWHERE ELSE...how could a country full of idiots do that?


the perception that Americans are dumb is brought about by stuff like Reality TV, Jersey Shore, etc...and fckin Jay Leno street interviews :facepalm ...it isn't a reality though

[-p.tiddy-]

Forbes: The World's Top Universities 2013 (http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/10/02/the-worlds-top-universities-2013/)

7 of the top-10 are in the US

the other 3 all in the UK

[ZenMaster]

many of the people running around claiming that Americans are stupid?...are Americans (the irony)

the reality is a huge % of Americans are extremely educated...we have the world's best schools, we also have the world's best hospitals/doctors/tech

also there is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_per_capita_personal_income

we've managed to put ourselves in a situation where the average citizen makes more on average than ANYWHERE ELSE...how could a country full of idiots do that?


the perception that Americans are dumb is brought about by stuff like Reality TV, Jersey Shore, etc...and fckin Jay Leno street interviews :facepalm ...it isn't a reality though

It's not irony because saying a lot of Americans are stupid isn't saying ALL Americans are stupid. Also, personally I wouldn't say that it's they're stupid per se, but more that the general American is oblivious to the rest of the world and they boast about being it.
"bla bla we're the GOAT country everywhere else should be like here"..

"the average citizen makes more on average than anywhere else" is spin, the problem isn't that the American population as a whole isn't wealthy, the problem is the wealth disparity. This causes A LOT of people to be dependant on different government welfare programs, even though they're told they're the most rich people in the world. Foodstamps alone have about 50 millions Americans using them.

[Nick Young]

It's not irony because saying a lot of Americans are stupid isn't saying ALL Americans are stupid. Also, personally I wouldn't say that it's they're stupid per se, but more that the general American is oblivious to the rest of the world and they boast about being it.
"bla bla we're the GOAT country everywhere else should be like here"..

"the average citizen makes more on average than anywhere else" is spin, the problem isn't that the American population as a whole isn't wealthy, the problem is the wealth disparity. This causes A LOT of people to be dependant on different government welfare programs, even though they're told they're the most rich people in the world. Foodstamps alone have about 50 millions Americans using them.
America is the GOAT country right now. We went to the goddamn moon. How can you even deny this?:hammerhead:

[ZenMaster]

America is the GOAT country right now. We went to the goddamn moon. How can you even deny this?:hammerhead:

Never said anything on what I personally think of America or Americans :coleman:

[Nick Young]

Never said anything on what I personally think of America or Americans :coleman:

Also, personally I wouldn't say that it's they're stupid per se, but more that the general American is oblivious to the rest of the world and they boast about being it.
"bla bla we're the GOAT country everywhere else should be like here"..

:hammerhead:

[ZenMaster]

:hammerhead:

That's a comment on a single aspect of Americans in this thread where the sentiment "these people are stupid" where being thrown around a lot, and it's a pretty lose term as for how it's used and received.

My opnion is more diverse than approve/disapprove, I've both lived and gone to school in the US for a part of my life.