what if....vasectomies were forced on all males at a young age by law

[-p.tiddy-]

and they could have them reversed whenever they wanted?...whenever they felt like they were ready to have kids? :confusedshrug: It would rid the country of accidental pregnancy at a young age. (which is a huge problem in terms of fighting poverty)

I know this is way to radical of an idea to ever happen...but I'm not sure it wouldn't work wonders for the population as a whole.

[DeuceWallaces]

Not a bad idea because it's reversible and you can just do it when circumcised.

[ace23]

Ok.

[Akrazotile]

I have been proposing for the last couple years that certain types of offenders in the legal system should have the option to undergo vasectomy/hysterectomy in lieu of the sentence they would otherwise receive (fines/community service/jail time etc).

I think this is a great solution that would mutually benefit everyone, but of course the PC crowd is too pansy to ever go for it. The lawyers of the ACLU would scheme to raise a buck from the bleeding heart ******* who donate to them by plucking their little puzzy heart strings about how thats so wrong and these lawyers need to take it to court and fight the big bad establishment man. And the little aclu donor weenies would line these lawyers pockets at the expense of a practical social solution, because that is frankly the only real purpose of the ACLU. Take advantage of liberal puzzies to keep their lawyers paid fighting a bunch of embarrassing battles in court.

[edb33]

Wouldn't this lead to more unprotected sex which in turn leads to more disease? Granted more disease does follow suit with population control but isn't a preferred method

[Real Men Wear Green]

How many that think this is a good idea think they themselves should have been given a vasectomy at the age of 12, or is this just a good idea for other people?

[Akrazotile]

and they could have them reversed whenever they wanted?...whenever they felt like they were ready to have kids? :confusedshrug: It would rid the country of accidental pregnancy at a young age. (which is a huge problem in terms of fighting poverty)

I know this is way to radical of an idea to ever happen...but I'm not sure it wouldn't work wonders for the population as a whole.


IMO it's unnecessary and expensive to do this to all males. Just target groups that are statistically most likely to produce neglected children and incentivize them to undergo the procedure. Like I said, offering it as a plea bargain option in the justice system is a good first step, IMO. Or as an alternative to deportation for illegals.

[-p.tiddy-]

How many that think this is a good idea think they themselves should have been given a vasectomy at the age of 12, or is this just a good idea for other people?
it would be more for poverty level peeps...teenage child birth, no father, etc is at the heart of the problem for many very poor families

however the way I invision it would be for ALL males of ALL income level families...because that is the only way it could be thrown out

[Marcus Thornton]

Wouldn't this lead to more unprotected sex which in turn leads to more disease? Granted more disease does follow suit with population control but isn't a preferred method
I agree. Also, there needs to be a study on whether or not vasectomies at early ages have negative long term effects.

[Real Men Wear Green]

it would be more for poverty level peeps...teenage child birth, no father, etc is at the heart of the problem for many very poor families

however the way I invision it would be for ALL males of ALL income level families...because that is the only way it could be thrown out
As you probably know there's really no way it could happen in the America of today. But regardless, you didn't directly answer my question. Would you be accepting of teeny-tiddy getting a vasectomy?

[-p.tiddy-]

As you probably know there's really no way it could happen in the America of today. But regardless, you didn't directly answer my question. Would you be accepting of teeny-tiddy getting a vasectomy?
I have a son and would absolutely hate it if he made me a grandfather when he was 16 to some random 15 year old, that would be a MFin nightmare...I would have no issues with him getting this done

*IF* I determined that there was a high chance of that happening I might just do it myself...



so "yes" I would be accepting

[-p.tiddy-]

what are the reasons for not doing this assuming all operations were paid for by the Gov and it could be reversed whenever the male wants?


I can see religion getting in the way big time...that's about it

[Akrazotile]

what are the reasons for not doing this assuming all operations were paid for by the Gov and it could be reversed whenever the male wants?


THis is an unprecedented degree of government regulation. It would be extremely expensive. There is risk involved and if someone is mutilated by a forced government act the situation gets really messy, pun intended.

It is not going to happen.


Stop discussing that idea and discuss the one I proposed instead please. That one actually has legs.

[Real Men Wear Green]

what are the reasons for not doing this
Well, for starters, it's a vasectomy. I most certainly do not want the government messing with my balls. oh, and this: (http://www.medicinenet.com/vasectomy/page3.htm#what_are_the_risks_of_vasectomy)


Although vasectomy is safe and highly effective, men should be aware of problems that could occur after surgery and over time.1
Surgical Risks

After surgery, most men have discomfort, bruising, and some swelling, all of which usually go away within 2 weeks. Problems that can occur after surgery and need to be checked by a health care provider include:

Hematoma. Bleeding under the skin that can lead to painful swelling.
Infection. Fever and scrotal redness and tenderness are signs of infection.5

Other Risks

The risk of other problems is small, but they do occur. These include:

A lump in the scrotum, called a granuloma. This is formed from sperm that leak out of the vas deferens into the tissue.3
Pain in the testicles that doesn't go away. This is called postvasectomy pain syndrome and occurs in about 10% of men.But, you know, only one in 10 of us would have his balls aching for the rest of his life, no big deal.

[-p.tiddy-]

I know there is no chance for it to happen, stated that in the OP

sex offenders should get the castration pill...

there is a pill that temporarily castrates men...it has been used in prisons in some european prison and the result was ZERO prison rape

this pill makes sex urges vanish completely...would love to see it used on sex offenders

[-p.tiddy-]

Well, for starters, it's a vasectomy. I most certainly do not want the government messing with my balls. oh, and this: (http://www.medicinenet.com/vasectomy/page3.htm#what_are_the_risks_of_vasectomy)But, you know, only one in 10 of us would have his balls aching for the rest of his life, no big deal.
okay fair enough...if there are a lot of risks involved then yeah that's a big issue

[Akrazotile]

okay fair enough...if there are a lot of risks involved then yeah that's a big issue

tiddy you asshole why are you ignoring my idea. COME ON.

[-p.tiddy-]

tiddy you asshole why are you ignoring my idea. COME ON.
I thought you meant "sex-offenders"...I threw out my idea on that just now

not sure about just legal offenders in general having the option of vasectomy over jail...

[Akrazotile]

I thought you meant "sex-offenders"...I threw out my idea on that just now

not sure about just legal offenders in general having the option of vasectomy over jail...


Not like convicts of murder or arson or rape etc, but for instance drug offenses, shoplifting, simple assault, perhaps weapons offenses that weren't the result of violent crime etc.

And again, it wouldn't be mandatory, just optional. At least during the trial period.

[-p.tiddy-]

Not like convicts of murder or arson or rape etc, but for instance drug offenses, shoplifting, simple assault, perhaps weapons offenses that weren't the result of violent crime etc.

And again, it wouldn't be mandatory, just optional. At least during the trial period.
hmm...idk

I assume they would have the option to reverse after a certain time period of "staying clean"?

[Dresta]

:biggums:

This guy can't be serious.