2014 Oscars Discussion

[riseagainst]

your prediction/who deserves

best picture:
best actor:
best actress:
best supporting actor:
best supporting actress:

GO!

[MightyWhitey]

Wolf of Wallstreet best picture
Leo for best actor
Sandra Bullock best actress
Jonah Hill best supporting actor
Jennifer Lawrence best supporting actress

[Trentknicks]

Dude, call me back. Please, I know you took off my girl but I'm willing to pay $$$ to make it all right again. You know the rumours about me and your little sister weren't true. I'd never to anything like that.

[pezt]

best picture: 12 Years a slave

best actor: Matthew McConnaughey

best actress: Cate Blanchett

best supporting actor: Jared Leto

best supporting actress: Lupita Nyong'o

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best picture: 12 years a slave
best actor: Matthew McConaughey
best actress: Cate Blanchett
best supporting actor: Jared Leto
best supporting actress: Lupita Nyong'o


Book it!

[MightyWhitey]

best picture: 12 Years a slave

best actor: Matthew McConnaughey

best actress: Cate Blanchett

best supporting actor: Jared Leto

best supporting actress: Lupita Nyong'o
Best picture and supporting actress are all wrong. Change them right now.

[Shabba Ranks]

best picture:carrots
best actor:carrots
best actress:carrots
best supporting actor:carrots
best supporting actress:carrots

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Best picture and supporting actress are all wrong. Change them right now.

There is no chance Wolf of Wall Street will win best picture and Jennifer Lawrence will not beat Lupita.

[MightyWhitey]

best picture: 12 years a slave
best actor: Matthew McConaughey
best actress: Cate Blanchett
best supporting actor: Jared Leto
best supporting actress: Lupita Nyong'o


Book it!
12 years a slave? Honestly could they make this movie more boring :rolleyes:

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12 years a slave? Honestly could they make this movie more boring :rolleyes:

There was nothing boring about it.

[miller-time]

There was nothing boring about it.

I was really underwhelmed by that movie. It was alright but it is soo overrated. Although Django is obviously a more surreal and less serious film I thought it captured the time much better than 12 years. It just felt more immersive and drew you in, 12 years just made me feel like I was watching a film that happened to be about slavery. Too predictable and formulaic.

[9erempiree]

Just watched Dallas Buyers Club and it was a good movie but I can't help but get thrown off when there is a poster of a modern day Lamborghini and during one of the shots there was a modern day $100 bill.

After that, I started to look for mistakes in the movie.

http://s12.postimg.org/66edf1d25/matt.png

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I was really underwhelmed by that movie. It was alright but it is soo overrated. Although Django is obviously a more surreal and less serious film I thought it captured the time much better than 12 years. It just felt more immersive and drew you in, 12 years just made me feel like I was watching a film that happened to be about slavery. Too predictable and formulaic.

The film was very much the style of Steve McQueen's previous work. It's often bleak and slow burning and uses long lens shots. He has the long lens scenes blocked more like a piece of theatre than using traditional film cuts. I'd say 12 years was more of an accurate representation of the time than Django.

Django wasn't really about sending a message, slavery was more of an under current. Ultimately it's a revenge story who saves the cat (His wife).

Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like perhaps you just enjoyed Django because you found it more stimulating with the action. Which is fine.

[T_L_P]

This is a list of the people nominated (because I think Phoenix deserves the Best Actor nod and Jeremy Renner Best Supporting Actor).

Best Picture: 12 Years a Slave
Best Actor: Chiwetel Ejiofor
Best Actress: Amy Adams
Best Supporting Actor: Michael Fassbender
Best Supporting Actress: Lupita Nyong'o

[T_L_P]

12 years a slave? Honestly could they make this movie more boring :rolleyes:

Are you seriously looking to be entertained by a movie about one of mankind's biggest failures?

:facepalm

You can disagree with it on an intellectual level, but you sound like a douche when you call a movie like that boring.

[DonDadda59]

I was really underwhelmed by that movie. It was alright but it is soo overrated. Although Django is obviously a more surreal and less serious film I thought it captured the time much better than 12 years. It just felt more immersive and drew you in, 12 years just made me feel like I was watching a film that happened to be about slavery. Too predictable and formulaic.

:wtf:

Do you mean the underground slave cockfighting ring that didn't exist or the runaway slave bounty hunting with a German national? Django was just another empty, vacuous but highly stylized Tarantino spaghetti western comedy that was one big excuse to use the word n*gger with impunity. I like Pulp Fiction as much as the next man, but damn... when is Quentin going to grow up and make an adult movie for once? The man has managed to turn the holocaust and slavery into pulpy jokes.

Anyway, the way it'll probably go down...

Best Picture: 12 years a Slave
Best Director: Alfonso Cuaron (Gravity)
Best Actor: Matthew McConnaughey
Best Cinematography: Emmanuel Lubezki (Gravity)
Best Supporting Actor: Jared Leto
Best Actress: Cate Blanchett
Best Supporting Actress: Lupita Nyong'o (Outside shot for Lawrence)
Best Original Screenplay: Her

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This is a list of the people nominated (because I think Phoenix deserves the Best Actor nod and Jeremy Renner Best Supporting Actor).

Best Picture: 12 Years a Slave
Best Actor: Chiwetel Ejiofor
Best Actress: Amy Adams
Best Supporting Actor: Michael Fassbender
Best Supporting Actress: Lupita Nyong'o

Fassbender was superb in 12 years. But I fully believe in the "Johnny Drama" rules of winning an Oscar. You either have to play a retard or gay.

Jared went gay.

[alenleomessi]

hopefully its not that dude from 12 years a slave and its either leo or matthew..

[T_L_P]

hopefully its not that dude from 12 years a slave and its either leo or matthew..

Why hopefully?

Has it become the cool thing to go against 12 Years all of a sudden?

[T_L_P]

Fassbender was superb in 12 years. But I fully believe in the "Johnny Drama" rules of winning an Oscar. You either have to play a retard or gay.

Jared went gay.

That was my "deserving" list. I know Fassbender has practically no chance of winning, unfortunately.

I'm quite annoyed that Renner didn't get a nomination for American Hustle. Cooper wasn't even a supporting actor; he and Bale were both leads.

The whole concept of a supporting actor has become very muddled in recent years.

[KingBeasley08]

your prediction/who deserves

best picture:
best actor:
best actress:
best supporting actor:
best supporting actress:

GO!
Best Picture: 12 Years A Slave (The Wolf of Wall Street)
Best Director: Alfonso Cuaron (Alfonso Cuaron)
Best Actor: Matthew McCon (Leonardo Dicaprio)
Best Actress: Cate Blanchett (Cate Blanchett)
Best Supporting Actor: Jared Leto (Michael Fassbender)
Best Supporting Actress: Lupita Nyongo (Julia Roberts

Book it. Names in parenthesis are who I would vote for but the people I said on the left will win guaranteed

[Qwyjibo]

Who I'd give it to:

Gravity (12 Years a Slave will win and it would be my 2nd choice)
Alfonso Cuaron (will probably win)
Chiwetel Ejiofor (McConaughey will probably win though)
Cate Blanchett (will win)
Michael Fassbender or Jared Leto, both were great. Leto obviously will win though.
Sally Hawkins (this category could surprise but I'd still bet on Nyong'o)

- Brie Larson was robbed of a nom for Short Term 12.
- Before Midnight? Only 1 nomination? Come on...
- I really liked Octavia Spencer in Fruitvale Station. Worthy of a Supporting Actress nom, IMO.
- It sucks that Sandra Bullock won her Oscar for such a, IMO, mediocre role and movie (The Blindside). She was excellent in Gravity.

[Qwyjibo]

Just watched Dallas Buyers Club and it was a good movie but I can't help but get thrown off when there is a poster of a modern day Lamborghini and during one of the shots there was a modern day $100 bill.
I couldn't get past seeing an Asomugha Eagles jersey in Silver Linings Playbook. Get your shit together people!

[alenleomessi]

pretty sick

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http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/sandbox/news/140310/old-young/christian-bale-435x580.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/sandbox/news/140310/old-young/matthew-mcconaughey-435x580.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/sandbox/news/140310/old-young/jared-leto-600x450.jpg

[MightyWhitey]

Are you seriously looking to be entertained by a movie about one of mankind's biggest failures?

:facepalm

You can disagree with it on an intellectual level, but you sound like a douche when you call a movie like that boring.
My man,,, these cry me a river movies have run their course. It's high time people respect the genius of Leo and the absolute master Scorsese. I fell asleep during 12 years. It felt like 12 years of my life wasted watching that bore. Have you actually watched Wolf of Wall Street?

[MightyWhitey]

hopefully its not that dude from 12 years a slave and its either leo or matthew..
:cheers:

[MightyWhitey]

:wtf:

Do you mean the underground slave cockfighting ring that didn't exist or the runaway slave bounty hunting with a German national? Django was just another empty, vacuous but highly stylized Tarantino spaghetti western comedy that was one big excuse to use the word n*gger with impunity. I like Pulp Fiction as much as the next man, but damn... when is Quentin going to grow up and make an adult movie for once? The man has managed to turn the holocaust and slavery into pulpy jokes.

Anyway, the way it'll probably go down...

Best Picture: 12 years a Slave
Best Director: Alfonso Cuaron (Gravity)
Best Actor: Matthew McConnaughey
Best Cinematography: Emmanuel Lubezki (Gravity)
Best Supporting Actor: Jared Leto
Best Actress: Cate Blanchett
Best Supporting Actress: Lupita Nyong'o (Outside shot for Lawrence)
Best Original Screenplay: Her

Great, the liberal arts community college Oscar picks :rolleyes:

[DonDadda59]

Great, the liberal arts community college Oscar picks :rolleyes:

Shut the f*ck up. Aren't you late for your klan rally?

[T_L_P]

My man,,, these cry me a river movies have run their course. It's high time people respect the genius of Leo and the absolute master Scorsese. I fell asleep during 12 years. It felt like 12 years of my life wasted watching that bore. Have you actually watched Wolf of Wall Street?

I find it hilarious that you think these "cry me a river movies", which 12 Years certainly was not, are commonplace. The film is about a mindset, about people, about actions...how many good slavery films have even been made? Besides 12 Years a Slave, I can't think of any in since the '80s.

But you've done nothing to describe why it was boring (and thus a bad film). You just said you were bored and thus expect everyone else to feel the same. Well, they don't. I sat and watched dozens of people leave the cinema with a lot of emotions (many of them conflicted).

And yes, I have seen Wolf of Wall Street. I thought it was a very, very good film. If 12 Years a Slave or Her hadn't come out this year, Wolf would have been my favourite Oscar movie. However, Leo definitely does not deserve Best Actor. He was too grandiose. Belford (or the Belford Leo presented) was more an archetype than an actual character.

[MightyWhitey]

Shut the f*ck up. Aren't you late for your klan rally?
Still looking for your lawn :lol

[DonDadda59]

Still looking for your lawn :lol

Ask your cousin/wife for directions.

[MightyWhitey]

I find it hilarious that you think these "cry me a river movies", which 12 Years certainly was not, are commonplace. The film is about a mindset, about people, about actions...how many good slavery films have even been made? Besides 12 Years a Slave, I can't think of any in since the '80s.
Come on dude. Do we really need to see a democratic plantation owner whip your ancestors every year :facepalm the movie industry is over saturated with holocaust movies as well. How about something the majority of people actually sat down and enjoyed from beginning to end. It's not like Wolf of Wallstreet would be an undeserved winner like say Training Day :facepalm

[MightyWhitey]

Ask your cousin/wife for directions.
Nah I'll give your brother a book of food stamps to draw me a map on a McDonalds napkin lol

[DonDadda59]

Come on dude. Do we really need to see a democratic plantation owner whip your ancestors every year :facepalm the movie industry is over saturated with holocaust movies as well. How about something the majority of people actually sat down and enjoyed from beginning to end. It's not like Wolf of Wallstreet would be an undeserved winner like say Training Day :facepalm

Training Day won Best Picture? That's news to me.

And let me guess... You meant just Denzel winning it, right? Boy, I wonder why. Don't let yourself be so obvious Whitey, keep em guessing. You wear your agenda on your sleeve :lol


Nah I'll give your brother a book of food stamps to draw me a map on a McDonalds napkin lol

Way too wordy. Key to a good punchline is brevity. Be more succinct.

[MightyWhitey]

But you've done nothing to describe why it was boring (and thus a bad film). You just said you were bored and thus expect everyone else to feel the same. Well, they don't. I sat and watched dozens of people leave the cinema with a lot of emotions (many of them conflicted).
Read my post above. The movie was ok. Not great. It was pretty flat and you knew what would happen next. In other words,,, too predictable.

[T_L_P]

Come on dude. Do we really need to see a democratic plantation owner whip your ancestors every year :facepalm the movie industry is over saturated with holocaust movies as well. How about something the majority of people actually sat down and enjoyed from beginning to end. It's not like Wolf of Wallstreet would be an undeserved winner like say Training Day :facepalm

I'm white, and I'm not even from America :oldlol:

But you continue on with this "every year" nonsense when it's not even true. In terms of Hollywood, there have been maybe 3 or 4 slavery movie in the past 15-20 years.

It's the same with the Holocaust. The last "big" Holocaust film made was The Pianist, in 2002...and it was financed by the UK/Poland/France/Germany.

[MightyWhitey]

Training Day won Best Picture? That's news to me.

And let me guess... You meant just Denzel winning it, right? Boy, I wonder why. Don't let yourself be so obvious Whitey, keep em guessing. You wear your agenda on your sleeve :lol
I have no agenda. We're having interesting conversation about the Oscars. And fyi I did mean Denzel winning and Russell Crowe was shafted and everyone knew it. Training Day was another ok movie. Nothing more.

[DonDadda59]

Read my post above. The movie was ok. Not great. It was pretty flat and you knew what would happen next. In other words,,, too predictable.

It wasn't a mystery movie you dunce. Of course it's 'predictable', it was based on an actual historical occurrence. I bet you found Lincoln terribly predictable too :oldlol:

I can just imagine you sitting there on the edge of your seat waiting for the big reveal or twist ending (other than wishing you were a slave owner of course). Keep being you, Whitey :cheers:

[MightyWhitey]

It wasn't a mystery movie you dunce. Of course it's 'predictable', it was based on an actual historical occurrence. I bet you found Lincoln terribly predictable too :oldlol:

I can just imagine you sitting there on the edge of your seat waiting for the big reveal or twist ending (other than wishing you were a slave owner of course). Keep being you, Whitey :cheers:
That's low man. I don't have the heart to hate like that. A brothel full of beauties is more my thing :pimp:

[MightyWhitey]

I'm white, and I'm not even from America :oldlol:

But you continue on with this "every year" nonsense when it's not even true. In terms of Hollywood, there have been maybe 3 or 4 slavery movie in the past 15-20 years.

It's the same with the Holocaust. The last "big" Holocaust film made was The Pianist, in 2002...and it was financed by the UK/Poland/France/Germany.I knew you weren't American by the way you spelled the word "favourite" :oldlol: And the international film community put out a lot of holocaust movies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Holocaust_films

[miller-time]

:wtf:

Do you mean the underground slave cockfighting ring that didn't exist or the runaway slave bounty hunting with a German national? Django was just another empty, vacuous but highly stylized Tarantino spaghetti western comedy that was one big excuse to use the word n*gger with impunity. I like Pulp Fiction as much as the next man, but damn... when is Quentin going to grow up and make an adult movie for once? The man has managed to turn the holocaust and slavery into pulpy jokes.

I'm not saying it was a more realistic representation. I'm saying I felt it was stronger emotionally because it drew me in. I felt a lot more for the characters in the film than I did for the ones in 12 years. It was much more brutal and therefore more stimulating on an emotional level. 12 years just seemed way to literal and passed over me. The whole movie felt like it happened over a couple of months rather than 12 years. Brad Pitt seemed like a man from the 21st century and managed to change everything within 10 minutes of being in the movie. But don't get me wrong, it is a good film but I don't think it is best picture worthy. The only reason it is there is because of the subject matter. But hey it is all subjective. If it resonated with you and everyone else I can't argue with that. It just didn't do anything to me.

[DonDadda59]

I'm not saying it was a more realistic representation. I'm saying I felt it was stronger emotionally because it drew me in. I felt a lot more for the characters in the film than I did for the ones in 12 years. It was much more brutal and therefore more stimulating on an emotional level. 12 years just seemed way to literal and passed over me. The whole movie felt like it happened over a couple of months rather than 12 years. Brad Pitt seemed like a man from the 21st century and managed to change everything within 10 minutes of being in the movie. But don't get me wrong, it is a good film but I don't think it is best picture worthy. The only reason it is there is because of the subject matter. But hey it is all subjective. If it resonated with you and everyone else I can't argue with that. It just didn't do anything to me.

And I think it's odd you would say that about a spaghetti western, which is all Django was. Tarantino makes the most vacuous films imaginable. The ratio of style to substance is probably in the 9:1 range. Everything he does is just for cheap shock value. That was fine and all when he was just starting out in the 90s and his films felt fresh and new. A film like Pulp even had some innovative narrative structure when it played cleverly with the chronological timeline. But it's clear at this point the man is just a one trick pony.

Even a guy like Scorsese who has a very distinct style has proven he can tackle other material besides gangster flicks. Tarantino's next movie was supposed to be another western. Meaning we would've seen another Sergio Leone ripoff with snappy dialogue, gratuitous and mindless violence, and the word n*gger being thrown around like it's about to be taken out of the dictionary... all for cheap shocks that lost their potency in the late 90s.

Not saying that the man is a hack or anything. He knows his way around a film and is technically sound. Just would like to see something new from him. Do something more mature. Something that has some substance.

[riseagainst]

who knew this would turn into a flame war.

:lol

anyway 2013 was a break out year for Matthew McCon in terms of the quality of roles he was in in movies and TV shows. Incredible year for him and I really think he'll win the Oscar this year.

[ROCSteady]

One thing about the Oscars that always makes me highly amused is the in your face ego stroking that happens. Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HFRjamyua0

Check out how all those other actors presenting their friends are so damn over the top and melodramatic about the nominee's role. Lol I enjoy how sentimental and serious the Oscars always are... like that one great role makes the actor a member enshrined into the highest elite of the Members of Life and worthy of everybody bowing down and in Wayne's World fashion hystreically exclaiming, We Are Not Worthy!!"

Ha this isn't even a complaint becuz there are few people who appreciate how much goes into making a memorable film with some profound statements like I do. I take filmmaking pretty seriously and I def think a great performance can be very impactful and stay in collective consciousness for a long time, depending. I am more or less talking to how the Industry and culture of Hollywood becomes so self-important on this particular night, elevating the singular personnel components into those you would expect to receive that brand of praise at a wake/funeral or some humankind changing Nobel prize ish lmao.

I luv to be amused by the Oscars as I appreciate the work and vision so much but also cannot help but find the egos and overtly-serious self-perception of celebrities that fancy themselves as artists (which many are) to be a smug fest that lends itself to multi-faceted ways to watch the event and be in anticipation of what unfolds.

[DonDadda59]

^I hated when they started doing those long-winded buddy introductions. Shit is cringe worthy. Like you said- so over the top melodramatic and corny. It's like the Oscars are set up already so Hollywood can suck its own d*ck, but then you have to take it to this level of sappy? They should go back to just announcing the nominees and playing a 20 sec. clip highlight of their performance and move on.

[miller-time]

And I think it's odd you would say that about a spaghetti western, which is all Django was. Tarantino makes the most vacuous films imaginable. The ratio of style to substance is probably in the 9:1 range. Everything he does is just for cheap shock value.

I'm not even disagreeing with that. It just is what it is. Although I wouldn't say it is 9:1. I'd say 50 50. maybe even 60 40. I think underneath the over the top action and shock value aspects there is a strong thread of emotional content. I do think both Quentin and the rest of the cast knew the seriousness of the subject. If you watch the interviews for the film you can see that. I'd kind of compare Django to 12 years like abstract to realism. In this case I prefer the abstract. I just feel it gives me more of a sensory overload and I can see beneath the surface. In 12 years I just see surface and don't feel much beyond that.

[ROCSteady]

^I hated when they started doing those long-winded buddy introductions. Shit is cringe worthy. Like you said- so over the top melodramatic and corny. It's like the Oscars are set up already so Hollywood can suck its own d*ck, but then you have to take it to this level of sappy? They should go back to just announcing the nominees and playing a 20 sec. clip highlight of their performance and move on.

Fully agreed. The year I posted was just :rolleyes: mixed with :oldlol: .


I like to get a small taste of the tone of the individual's acting in the movie as introduction, have people clap at an example of the performance, not make the actor feel like they changed the collective world and shit. Def deserves recognition for the nomination and who delivered but chill with the balls gargling :oldlol:

Lol I get why artists take their work so seriously and I respect artful crafted storytelling, otherwise it wouldn't come out as polished and thoughtful as it does.

Just cracks me up from my perspective as a person seeing this particular cult of celebrities and how they treat their craft like it has implications for every single person, despite the fact that many many people don't even watch Oscar movies.

They sit there all serious browed, like they are getting an award for treating disease in Malaysia or some shit.

[DonDadda59]

I'm not even disagreeing with that. It just is what it is. Although I wouldn't say it is 9:1. I'd say 50 50. maybe even 60 40. I think underneath the over the top action and shock value aspects there is a strong thread of emotional content. I do think both Quentin and the rest of the cast knew the seriousness of the subject. If you watch the interviews for the film you can see that. I'd kind of compare Django to 12 years like abstract to realism. In this case I prefer the abstract. I just feel it gives me more of a sensory overload and I can see beneath the surface. In 12 years I just see surface and don't feel much beyond that.

I think that's what bothered me most about his last 2 films- the fact that they were set against the backdrop of some key and very dark moments in History, but those events weren't treated with the proper respect or even recognition they deserve. It's all just gratuitous violence and over the top cartoon characters going through the usual Tarantino motions. Django was only slightly different because he introduced a blaxploitation wrinkle. His next movie was supposed to be another western before the script was leaked. I haven't read it, but I'm 100% sure it would've just been more of the same. Doesn't seem like he has the ability to step out of his comfort zone and create anything other than what we've seen from him- loud, violent, ultimately empty films.



Just cracks me up from my perspective as a person seeing this particular cult of celebrities and how they treat their craft like it has implications for every single person, despite the fact that many many people don't even watch Oscar movies.

They sit there all serious browed, like they are getting an award for treating disease in Malaysia or some shit.

Tell me about it. That's why guys like P.S. Hoffman (RIP) are always such a breath of fresh air. They do the work and don't like sticking around for the bum sniffing that comes along with it. Look at how incredibly uncomfortable he was when he won for Capote.

2:00ish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VcWRJHBUDM)

The guy's whole life revolved around constantly performing for people either on stage or on film, but you could always tell he was completely uncomfortable with the sycophantic culture of Hollywood.

[T_L_P]

I think that's what bothered me most about his last 2 films- the fact that they were set against the backdrop of some key and very dark moments in History, but those events weren't treated with the proper respect or even recognition they deserve. It's all just gratuitous violence and over the top cartoon characters going through the usual Tarantino motions. Django was only slightly different because he introduced a blaxploitation wrinkle. His next movie was supposed to be another western before the script was leaked. I haven't read it, but I'm 100% sure it would've just been more of the same. Doesn't seem like he has the ability to step out of his comfort zone and create anything other than what we've seen from him- loud, violent, ultimately empty films.


Inglourious Basterds, especially that cinema scene, is a Holocaust denier's dream.

I liked Tarantino's first two films, but everything after that has either been boring (Kill Bill, Jackie Brown) or morally reprehensible (Basterds, Django).

It doesn't help that he goes round dissing John Ford and Jean-Luc Godard all the time.

[miller-time]

Inglourious Basterds, especially that cinema scene, is a Holocaust denier's dream.

How?

[T_L_P]

How?

Sorry, I was trying to say that it feels like a Holocaust denier's dream, meaning the film is morally akin to Holocaust denial.

[ROCSteady]

Not really, bruh.

Look, if you don't know that Hitler died shook in a bunker on his own accord and how horrific the extermination of Jews was, then that's on the people who haven't had it pounded into their head at a young age. The ppl who deny the Halocaust are conspiracy weirdos who the majority cast aside as delusional anyhow.

Inglorious Basterds doesn't set out to make any historical implications other than use WWII and Hitler's Third Reich as a backdrop for a really entertaining intersecting story based on revenge and retribution.

Tarantino's movies are awesome because the writing has more character than almost any other director who also writes his own screenplays.

Tarantino's revenge movies aren't meant to be moral or historic besides settings and aesthetics, even those are licensed to a degree. If you go into one thinking it should honor the same history that has been common knowledge since elementary school, then you do not understand the objectives he has as a director.

[DonDadda59]

Not really, bruh.

Look, if you don't know that Hitler died shook in a bunker on his own accord and how horrific the extermination of Jews was, then that's on the people who haven't had it pounded into their head at a young age. The ppl who deny the Halocaust are conspiracy weirdos who the majority cast aside as delusional anyhow.

Inglorious Basterds doesn't set out to make any historical implications other than use WWII and Hitler's Third Reich as a backdrop for a really entertaining intersecting story based on revenge and retribution.

Tarantino's movies are awesome because the writing has more character than almost any other director who also writes his own screenplays.

Tarantino's revenge movies aren't meant to be moral or historic besides settings and aesthetics, even those are licensed to a degree. If you go into one thinking it should honor the same history that has been common knowledge since elementary school, then you do not understand the objectives he has as a director.

In your estimation, what are these objectives exactly? From where I'm sitting, only looks like he's trying to recreate films he liked as a kid. Namely the spaghetti westerns of Leone and Corbucci (Literally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz7VrgkgMMA)) and the blaxploitation films he loved so much. Then he just fills them with as much gratuitous violence and n bombs as he can fit (Revenge for his mom's dating history? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gVB4N9Kl9Q)). I'm not saying he should be doing after school specials and 'message' films, but other than what I listed above... what is it that his films have to say? Just seems like it's all about the glossy surface 'cool' of the film genres he's been imitating his whole career.

He also hasn't shown any sort of growth or evolution. He's still making the same sort of films he was making 20 years ago. The novelty of his style has lost its luster IMO. Like I used the example of Scorsese before. He's a guy who also favored a distinct, stylish approach (which was his own personal style and not borrowed mind you) but his films still had heart and awesome character study and social commentary (you can find all of this in 'Taxi Driver' alone). So even if he had a bent toward violence some would consider gratuitous, he still had a lot of substance. And as he got older, he spread his wings and stepped out of his comfort zone. Tried comedy, biographies, period pieces, and even animation recently.

Tarantino is a one trick pony with little to no substance in his work. But you seem to think differently and I'd love to hear why.

[ROCSteady]

His objectives are to entertain the masses (as well as himself, let's not forget how much he loves his own style of writing) by making over the top violence that panders to themes of Kung Fu and Westerns he was obsessed with. So, no, nothing really more in depth to add other than what you've already mentioned. He has a narrow set of themes he likes to make movies about but they're memorable more often than not.

Everything he writes (even stuff like True Romance and Dusk Til Dawn) has a lot of similarities so no, he doesn't really have a 'voice' with any kind of substance but again, that's not one of his goals when he creates his material.
His goals seem to be to make characters with colorful things to say while incorporating over the top violence.

Tarantino wants his work to be a pop culture mainstay, he does that from using styles and music from stuff he personally is a fan of but amping up the spectacle. He doesn't really care about things like introspection and drawing notice to certain parts of the human condition. He just wants his name to be synonymous with things people recognize and remember, seems to have worked pretty well. He aims to entertain first and foremost, not exercise any kind of vehicle to make people think and ponder the horrors of our past.

I don't think any less of his style because it's exactly what he aims to do. Directors that fail and are bad directors are the ones who try to portray things that do not show up with any punch on screen. Whose films fall flat when it is obvious they wanted them to 'say something.'

I like Tarantino and his style becuz he is what he is but his movies still bring me massive entertainment and laughs and intrigue from a verbal as well as an action standpoint.

I still say Kill Bill Vol. 2 deserves way more admiration, seeing as the first was kinda hollow and relied on 15 foot blood spurts but Vol. 2 was pretty poignant at the end.

[DonDadda59]

So you're more or less in agreement that it's all about style and entertainment value. Basically the same thing I said. Again to reiterate- I don't think he's a bad director, just that he's grown extremely stale and has shown no growth whatsoever as an artist. He's all about trying to be 'cool', nothing more. Just the same tired spaghetti western, blaxploitation, and sometimes old school kung fu regurgitation. Sometimes, like with Django, he'll mesh styles (Corbucci's original Django mixed w/ this blaxploitation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTIklFsMjjU)). That's the extent of his versatility.

Would be nice to see him try something new, but I won't be holding my breath.

[BurningHammer]

Just give Miyazaki another Oscar, will ya?

[HardwoodLegend]

You found 'Kill Bill' to be boring, TLP? I thought it was an incredibly fun showcase of style over substance. It helps that I'm a Shaw Brothers, Lady Snowblood, etc. fanatic, but QT has always had a keen camera eye with visual flair. His imitations aren't cheap and at least come across with some polish.

[AlphaWolf24]

I have a lot of friends in the VFX industry so I will be watching.

Hopefully the industry changes for the better....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lcB9u-9mVE

I was fortunate to work with Guillermo del Toro on Hell Boy and again on Pans Labyrinth in 06' ....it's amazing how much VFX changes a movie.

Hollywood desperately needs to understand and accept the VFX industry in a different light.

[9erempiree]

I have a lot of friends in the VFX industry so I will be watching.

Hopefully the industry changes for the better....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lcB9u-9mVE

I was fortunate to work with Guillermo del Toro on Hell Boy and again on Pans Labyrinth in 06' ....it's amazing how much VFX changes a movie.

Hollywood desperately needs to understand and accept the VFX industry in a different light.

What is the difference between CGI and VFX.

[ROCSteady]

So you're more or less in agreement that it's all about style and entertainment value. Basically the same thing I said. Again to reiterate- I don't think he's a bad director, just that he's grown extremely stale and has shown no growth whatsoever as an artist. He's all about trying to be 'cool', nothing more. Just the same tired spaghetti western, blaxploitation, and sometimes old school kung fu regurgitation. Sometimes, like with Django, he'll mesh styles (Corbucci's original Django mixed w/ this blaxploitation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTIklFsMjjU)). That's the extent of his versatility.

Would be nice to see him try something new, but I won't be holding my breath.

Yes, I am in agreement with what you said.

We just seem to be on different levels of how we appreciate that carved out rigid niche he's created for himself. The exchanges between characters remain more fascinating than any other director that also writes his material.

I guess to you, a director shouldn't be highly regarded as an artist unless he makes all kinds of different material like Kubrick or something? That's fine if you think that I just don't agree.

One of my favorite directors- David Fincher - also doesn't steer too far away from his recognizable format... besides Benjamin Button ... all his movies are either dreary or nihilistic and have a dark aesthetic, usually rooted in crime/thriller.

That repeated style doesn't make the individual films themselves any less effective.

[AlphaWolf24]

What is the difference between CGI and VFX.


VFX or Visual Effects is the broad stroke term....

VFX includes everything...( erasing the cables that held up Tobey McGuire in Spiderman - creating a background in Life of Pi or making an actual moving image/character)

CGI is usually focusing on an actual character ...like Optimus prime in Transformers.

[DonDadda59]

Yes, I am in agreement with what you said.

We just seem to be on different levels of how we appreciate that carved out rigid niche he's created for himself. The exchanges between characters remain more fascinating than any other director that also writes his material.

Woody Allen, Kevin Smith, Wes Anderson, Christopher Nolan, and even Spike Lee are writer/directors who have turned out better character dialogue/interaction than Tarantino's 70s blaxploitation gimmickry. Like I said, it was novel and new when Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction came out. It's tired, stale, and repetitive now.


I guess to you, a director shouldn't be highly regarded as an artist unless he makes all kinds of different material like Kubrick or something? That's fine if you think that I just don't agree.

No, I just think a director should be able to do more than recreate movies/dated genres from his childhood. He's obviously found his niche, but damn try something else. It's been 20+ years and everything is the same, just the setting changes.


One of my favorite directors- David Fincher - also doesn't steer too far away from his recognizable format... besides Benjamin Button ... all his movies are either dreary or nihilistic and have a dark aesthetic, usually rooted in crime/thriller.

Fincher has directed Aliens 3 (Sci Fi), Benjamn Button as you pointed out (fantasy), Social Network (semi-biography), and just announced he's doing a Steve Jobs biopic. He also directs/produces the political thriller House of Cards. That's versatility,


That repeated style doesn't make the individual films themselves any less effective.

The novelty wears off after a while, even if people continue to flock to the theaters just based off of name recognition. But I guess it's a different strokes type deal.

[irondarts]

Just watched Dallas Buyers Club and it was a good movie but I can't help but get thrown off when there is a poster of a modern day Lamborghini and during one of the shots there was a modern day $100 bill.

After that, I started to look for mistakes in the movie.

http://s12.postimg.org/66edf1d25/matt.png
The Television in Jennifer Garner's apartment and other rooms was a model of TV that wasn't made when the movie was set, and it bothered the shit out of me. Still loved the film, but it bothered me that they wouldn't bother getting a Television that was accurate for the era in which the film was set.

[DonDadda59]

The Television in Jennifer Garner's apartment and other rooms was a model of TV that wasn't made when the movie was set, and it bothered the shit out of me. Still loved the film, but it bothered me that they wouldn't bother getting a Television that was accurate for the era in which the film was set.

To be fair, DBL was a relatively low budget film and was shot in a ridiculous 25 days. If anyone here has knowledge/experience of how films get made, especially a long feature like this then you know how crazy that is. It's actually impressive they didn't have more mistakes and anachronisms than they did. Everything was on a very tight and exaggerated schedule.

Just looked it up, the budget was only $5 million. Doubt they had the scratch for a continuity supervisor :lol

[irondarts]

My predictions:

Best Picture: 12 Years A Slave
Best Director: Alfonso Cuar

[Nick Young]

Yeah American hustle was the biggest let down of the year for me. Rambling, boring and no plot. And then that lameass twist at the end.:facepalm Shit I was expecting something amazing and it really failed.

[Nick Young]

Just give Miyazaki another Oscar, will ya?
GOAT animator, wind rises was amazing

[bballnoob1192]

well the obvious choices are
best movie-12YAS
best director-cuaron
best actor-MM
best actress-cate
best S actress-lupita
best S actor-leto

i hope leo wins for best actor, but not a chance in hell tho. his scene when he was crawling down the steps was amazing and the following scene with him trying to save jonah hill from choking was also amazing. one of his best acting scene ever

[CeilingFan#1]

well the obvious choices are
best movie-12YAS
best director-cuaron
best actor-MM
best actress-cate
best S actress-lupita
best S actor-leto


Jennifer Lawrence has a solid chance.

[ROCSteady]

Woody Allen, Kevin Smith, Wes Anderson, Christopher Nolan, and even Spike Lee are writer/directors who have turned out better character dialogue/interaction than Tarantino's 70s blaxploitation gimmickry. Like I said, it was novel and new when Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction came out. It's tired, stale, and repetitive now.



No, I just think a director should be able to do more than recreate movies/dated genres from his childhood. He's obviously found his niche, but damn try something else. It's been 20+ years and everything is the same, just the setting changes.



Fincher has directed Aliens 3 (Sci Fi), Benjamn Button as you pointed out (fantasy), Social Network (semi-biography), and just announced he's doing a Steve Jobs biopic. He also directs/produces the political thriller House of Cards. That's versatility,



The novelty wears off after a while, even if people continue to flock to the theaters just based off of name recognition. But I guess it's a different strokes type deal.

In what universe does a Christopher Nolan movie have more magnetic and charming dialogue than QT? The only directors you listed that even come close to QT's style of interestingly witty diction and back and forths are Woody Allen (who got his own share of grief for 'same ol, same ol' style until recent years but still has directed 5x more stuff than Tarantino) and maybe Kevin Smith for like 3 movies (Clerks, Mallrats & Dogma), last good one being Dogma in 2000. Other than those, that dude is a straight dime a dozen scrub in the industry.

Wes Anderson is a terrible example to showcase when you are talking about stale, worn out novelty. His style is extremely recognizable and unique but it's not like he's some varied artist either. The same 'played out' schtick could be very fairly applied to him as well and he's never written amazing dialogue like (I'll even leave out Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction):

Bill's Superman-Beatrix Kiddo Metaphor (Kill Bill Vol. 2)
Hans Landa questioning French Farmer (opening scene of Inglorious Basterds)
Dennis Hopper's History Lesson to Gangster Walken (True Romance)
King Schultz explanation for murdering the Sheriff (D'Jango Unchained)
The Basement Tavern scene "There's a special rung in Hell for those who waste good scotch" (Inglorious Basterds)

& pretty much anything Clooney's Seth Gekko says in the first half of From Dusk Til Dawn

As far as my dude Fincher is concerned . . . Alien 3 is very much the dark and drearily nihilistic aesthetic I was talking about.

The Jobs film will probably look very similar to Social Network, which was a certain departure from his normally expected subject matter. However, he's also slated to release Gone Girl, a very standard Fincher crime-thriller that I am very excited about seeing nonetheless (even reading the novel atm because of Fincher always choosing such wild rides in this genre)

[JohnFreeman]

Matthew McConaughey for best actor

[DonDadda59]

In what universe does a Christopher Nolan movie have more magnetic and charming dialogue than QT? The only directors you listed that even come close to QT's style of interestingly witty diction and back and forths are Woody Allen (who got his own share of grief for 'same ol, same ol' style until recent years but still has directed 5x more stuff than Tarantino) and maybe Kevin Smith for like 3 movies (Clerks, Mallrats & Dogma), last good one being Dogma in 2000. Other than those, that dude is a straight dime a dozen scrub in the industry.

Wes Anderson is a terrible example to showcase when you are talking about stale, worn out novelty. His style is extremely recognizable and unique but it's not like he's some varied artist either. The same 'played out' schtick could be very fairly applied to him as well and he's never written amazing dialogue like (I'll even leave out Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction):

Bill's Superman-Beatrix Kiddo Metaphor (Kill Bill Vol. 2)
Hans Landa questioning French Farmer (opening scene of Inglorious Basterds)
Dennis Hopper's History Lesson to Gangster Walken (True Romance)
King Schultz explanation for murdering the Sheriff (D'Jango Unchained)
The Basement Tavern scene "There's a special rung in Hell for those who waste good scotch" (Inglorious Basterds)

& pretty much anything Clooney's Seth Gekko says in the first half of From Dusk Til Dawn

As far as my dude Fincher is concerned . . . Alien 3 is very much the dark and drearily nihilistic aesthetic I was talking about.

The Jobs film will probably look very similar to Social Network, which was a certain departure from his normally expected subject matter. However, he's also slated to release Gone Girl, a very standard Fincher crime-thriller that I am very excited about seeing nonetheless (even reading the novel atm because of Fincher always choosing such wild rides in this genre)

Nolan may be arguable (Even though writing/co writing Memento, Dark Knight, Prestige, Inception, etc is noting to sneeze at and IMO more impressive than co-opting 60s and 70s movie and slapping Sam Jackson in there), but every one of those other guys named have shown more varied and interesting writing than 70s jive blaxploitation dialogue and using the word n*gger every 3 sentences. I just think Quentin has been coasting by on the reputation he got wit Resevoir and Pulp 20 years ago. It's all the same revenge spaghetti western/blaxploitation narrative only with different settings.

Like I said, I haven't read the Hateful 8 yet but I feel like I already saw it or at the very least can guess that it will have gratuitous violence, the usual snappy dialogue (maybe infused with racism as usual?), and will ultimately be one big loud, empty spectacle. But hey, maybe he'll prove me wrong... by making Kill Bill 3 :lol

[EnoughSaid]

Best picture: 12 Years A Slave
Best actor: Matthew McConaughey
Best actress: Cate Blanchett
Best supporting actor: Jared Leto
Best supporting actress: Jennifer Lawrence (Lupita might take it)

Cuaron is going to get best director too.

[T_L_P]

Just throwing this out there: after Phillip Seymour Hoffman died, Leo's chance of winning for Best Actor became 0.

[Andrei89]

How late do they start?

Why cant they just put a time up somewhere? I have been searching everywhere.

[Sarcastic]

Just throwing this out there: after Phillip Seymour Hoffman died, Leo's chance of winning for Best Actor became 0.


Why would that have any impact on Leo's chance to win?

[T_L_P]

Why would that have any impact on Leo's chance to win?

-Famous actor dies from drug abuse
-Actor gets nominated for an award for playing a character that glamorises drug abuse

The Academy would feel like hypocrites if they gave him the award. I'm not saying it's necessarily right, but it's just the way it is.

[RagaZ]

People really watch this? :sleeping

[T_L_P]

People really watch this? :sleeping

Nah, I'm watching the Spurs.

Although I will check out the Actors' speeches tomorrow.

[ROCSteady]

Blanchett better win. She killed that Blue Jasmine role in a way that so entertaining yet still felt very organic. Perfect role for her, loved watching her play that character

[KingBeasley08]

Blanchett better win. She killed that Blue Jasmine role in a way that so entertaining yet still felt very organic. Perfect role for her, loved watching her play that character
Best performance of the year IMO

[Sarcastic]

-Famous actor dies from drug abuse
-Actor gets nominated for an award for playing a character that glamorises drug abuse

The Academy would feel like hypocrites if they gave him the award. I'm not saying it's necessarily right, but it's just the way it is.

Leo might not win, but Hoffman's death will have nothing to do with it. The voting happened probably before he even died. And the movie and his role was not about drugs.

[ROCSteady]

I honestly cannot remember the last time I thought that somebody was so perfect for their role . . . maybe Philip Seymour Hoffman in The Master

Blanchett's impatient, repugnant faces had me cracking up. She talked like such an elitist snob and it was glorious. Flawless performance

[T_L_P]

Leo might not win, but Hoffman's death will have nothing to do with it. The voting happened probably before he even died. And the movie and his role was not about drugs.

Voting began on the 14th on February, I believe.

I just said I agree, but a lot of people feel the movie glamorises Belford's lifestyle, which is centred around drugs.

The death of Phillip Seymour Hoffman will be looming in the minds of the voters. It's just that simple.

Then again, Leo wasn't winning anyway. Even before Hoffman's death, people in the industry were skeptical of the role.

[alenleomessi]

leo is too busy fighting for freedom in ukraine anyway
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhqsglvIAAEnLB8.jpg:medium
what a guy :applause:

[alenleomessi]

jared leto is 42 :biggums:

[The_Yearning]

I swear every year there is some black/slave movie at the Oscars

[Rose'sACL]

why is obama at the oscars?

why is jessica roberts' mouth so small?

[T_L_P]

I swear every year there is some black/slave movie at the Oscars

Really? The last slave movies I remember at the Oscars was Amistad, which is like 20 years old.

[Nick Young]

Really? The last slave movies I remember at the Oscars was Amistad, which is like 20 years old.
Django

[T_L_P]

Django

Not a slave movie in any sense of the word.

It's a revenge flick/Spaghetti Western set in the slave days.

Next you're gonna tell me Basterds was a Holocaust movie.

[imnew09]

anyone got a link?

[miller-time]

Not a slave movie in any sense of the word.

It's a revenge flick/Spaghetti Western set in the slave days.

Next you're gonna tell me Basterds was a Holocaust movie.

It did deal with slavery though. It just presented it through the lens of a Spaghetti Western. Basterds didn't feature any concentration camps or their Jewish victims so no it wasn't really a holocaust movie and much more a revenge fantasy.

People look at the absurd aspects of Django and think that they rule out any possible meaning of the slavery subtext. It was a film about slavery, just not a historically accurate one. But the elements of yearning, fear, oppression, mistreatment, and social hierarchy were all there. That was the point. It presented the struggle in a much more overt and less literal way.

[ihoopallday]

:oldlol: Ellen is hilarious

[SpecialQue]

:oldlol: Ellen is hilarious

:biggums:

[Tarik One]

Pharrell is determined to make those ridiculous hats a trend.

[alenleomessi]

:biggums:
https://twitter.com/TheEllenShow/status/440302561044594688

[T_L_P]

That was Fassbender's award tbh.

[MightyWhitey]

Jared Leto :coleman: I give him respect for thanking his mom and brother like that.

[Rose'sACL]

Not a slave movie in any sense of the word.

It's a revenge flick/Spaghetti Western set in the slave days.

Next you're gonna tell me Basterds was a Holocaust movie.
yes, it was. wtf is wrong with you ? oscars has to have some clear oscar bait movies in there.
12 years a slave is a great movie nonetheless.

[alenleomessi]

donald going ham on twitter
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

[The_Yearning]

donald going ham on twitter
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

What this fool talking about?

[-p.tiddy-]

I just came in here to voice my opinion that Pharrell REALLY needs to stop trying to make those fckin Arbys Hats happen

Let it go dude, you look like a clown... It didn't work, that look will never catch on, move on :facepalm

[-p.tiddy-]

jared leto is 42 :biggums:
That is a little surprising... Thought he was like 35

[ROCSteady]

I just came in here to voice my opinion that Pharrell REALLY needs to stop trying to make those fckin Arbys Hats happen

Let it go dude, you look like a clown... It didn't work, that look will never catch on, move on :facepalm

#NitpickingWomanAlert

[Bcogswell]

I just came in here to voice my opinion that Pharrell REALLY needs to stop trying to make those fckin Arbys Hats happen

Let it go dude, you look like a clown... It didn't work, that look will never catch on, move on :facepalm

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Well said. :applause:

[Qwyjibo]

donald going ham on twitter
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
For a moment I thought that was some kind of parody account intentionally trying to sound stupid. Blocked. I never want to be exposed to that again.

[The_Yearning]

Charlize Theron :bowdown:

[miller-time]

That is a little surprising... Thought he was like 35

He and Pharrell have a combined age of 82.

[alenleomessi]

He and Pharrell have a combined age of 82.
add brad pitt and its 132 :lol

[imnew09]

seriously... pizza? :rolleyes:

[9erempiree]

I feel sad that Bill Murray is as old as he is.

[CelticBaller]

p williams is a vampire duh

[9erempiree]

Seriously, I don't get why Gravity is winning as much as it is.

[Qwyjibo]

I would let Anna Kendrick do vile things to me with no regrets.

[irondarts]

Gravity winning everything.

[The-Legend-24]

Gravity only deserved best special effects, nothing more, movie was a snoozefest.

[alenleomessi]

pink :sleeping what year are we

[100grandman]

pink did alright I thought

[jamal99]

Gravity only deserved best special effects, nothing more, movie was a snoozefest.
And cinematography too. Hope it doesn't end up winning best picture...

[TylerOO]

the WIZARD OF OZ TOP 3 MOVIE EVER FUKK DA HATAZ

[T_L_P]

And cinematography too. Hope it doesn't end up winning best picture...

I though 12 Years had better cinematography :confusedshrug:

[AlphaWolf24]

I just came in here to voice my opinion that Pharrell REALLY needs to stop trying to make those fckin Arbys Hats happen

Let it go dude, you look like a clown... It didn't work, that look will never catch on, move on :facepalm
:lol

2nd

[jamal99]

I though 12 Years had better cinematography :confusedshrug:
It was pretty good and now I see it's not even nominated lol

[Qwyjibo]

I though 12 Years had better cinematography :confusedshrug:
Let go of your hate TLP... embrace Gravity. Be one of us. One of us! One of us!

:lol

[Patrick Chewing]

One of the worst shows in a while. Over 3 hours already.

[jamal99]

And Gravity wins another one...

[T_L_P]

Let go of your hate TLP... embrace Gravity. Be one of us. One of us! One of us!

:lol

I don't hate it man. I'd give it a good 6/10 still.

I just didn't think it had better cinematography than 12 Years :confusedshrug:

:oldlol:

[T_L_P]

I'm really starting to think Gravity will take both Best Director and Best Picture now.

Qwyjibo, stop rooting for it. You're cursing the other films.

[The-Legend-24]

Wow, gravity is dominating. :rolleyes:

[Qwyjibo]

I'm really starting to think Gravity will take both Best Director and Best Picture now.

Qwyjibo, stop rooting for it. You're cursing the other films.
It'll get director but it's not a best picture type for the type of people that I've heard are part of the academy.

I hope Her wins something. Screenplay is the only realistic thing left for it.

[T_L_P]

It'll get director but it's not a best picture type for the type of people that I've heard are part of the academy.

I hope Her wins something. Screenplay is the only realistic thing left for it.

You're probably right.

Agreed on Her. I know Phoenix pissed them off last year, but they should have given him a nomination.

[jamal99]

I hope Her wins something. Screenplay is the only realistic thing left for it.
Got it :applause:

[Qwyjibo]

Also, why was Before Midnight an adapted screenplay?

Most overlooked movie of this year.

[alenleomessi]

best director, picture, leading actor and actress left

[alenleomessi]

Also, why was Before Midnight an adapted screenplay?

Most overlooked movie of this year.
it was adapted from the 2nd part of the series if that makes any sense

[Qwyjibo]

I'd really like to see Ejiofor win. He's been so good for so long. Some of his movies just weren't seen like Dirty Pretty Things or he was great in it but the movie was "meh" like Redbelt. It's interesting how he was in Amistad too, the other big movie about slavery of this generation.

[jamal99]

best director, picture, leading actor and actress left
Predictions - Cuaron, 12 Years a Slave, McConaughey and Cate Blanchett

[Jailblazers7]

Holy shit, Pottier is still alive. I just assumed he was dead for some reason

[miller-time]

F*ck all the awards, any nip slips?

No but I think J-Law did something quirky again. So we can get excited for another year about that I suppose..

[T_L_P]

I haven't seen Blue Jasmine.

Was Cate Blanchett really as good as people are saying?

[Qwyjibo]

I haven't seen Blue Jasmine.

Was Cate Blanchett really as good as people are saying?
Yes. By far the best out of those choices (although I didn't see the Meryl Streep movie).

[Sarcastic]

Leo was robbed.

[jamal99]

Leo was robbed.
Nah, he had roles who were more Oscar deserving...

[Qwyjibo]

Wait, what? God gave all this to him? Hey screw you God, give the rest of us something too!

[NuggetsFan]

Leo's never getting an Oscar :oldlol:

[T_L_P]

Leo was robbed.

Ejiofor and Dern were more deserving on this occasion

[Qwyjibo]

Oh yeah, Will Smith still exists. Forgot about him.

[Sarcastic]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhxWutnCEAAtEQ6.jpg:large

:oldlol:


Kevin Spacey with the photobomb :lol

[alenleomessi]

damn leo and wolf didnt win shit :facepalm

[jamal99]

Predictions - Cuaron, 12 Years a Slave, McConaughey and Cate Blanchett
Got 'em :pimp:

[Qwyjibo]

This reminds me of the one misstep 12 Years a Slave had. That one scene with Brad Pitt talking to Fassbender towards the end... so preachy and so out of place given how raw the rest of the movie was.

[miller-time]

damn leo and wolf didnt win shit :facepalm

Needs to take the advice Ricky Gervais gave Kate Winslet and do a holocaust film.

[alenleomessi]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhxvAoCIgAAkvPo.jpg:large

[The_Yearning]

Whose the fat black guy?

[T_L_P]

This reminds me of the one misstep 12 Years a Slave had. That one scene with Brad Pitt talking to Fassbender towards the end... so preachy and so out of place given how raw the rest of the movie was.

Yeah, I really disliked that scene too.

Brad Pitt had to shoehorn himself into the film.

[christian1923]

Leo would have got best actor if he didn't snitch at the end :(

[Qwyjibo]

Ok, so when do we all start the usual silly backlash against Gravity, 12 Years a Slave and Dallas Buyers Club? Do these movies suck yet?

[JohnFreeman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhxwR_1IUAAKRBj.jpg:large

[DonDadda59]

Anyway, the way it'll probably go down...

Best Picture: 12 years a Slave
Best Director: Alfonso Cuaron (Gravity)
Best Actor: Matthew McConnaughey
Best Cinematography: Emmanuel Lubezki (Gravity)
Best Supporting Actor: Jared Leto
Best Actress: Cate Blanchett
Best Supporting Actress: Lupita Nyong'o (Outside shot for Lawrence)
Best Original Screenplay: Her

Boom.

[Vragrant]

That was a great acceptance speech by McConaughey

[T_L_P]

Ok, so when do we all start the usual silly backlash against Gravity, 12 Years a Slave and Dallas Buyers Club? Do these movies suck yet?

Judging by the reviews on this board, it's already happened for 12 Years a Slave, and I know a lot of people who hated Gravity.

I don't think many have even seen Dallas Buyers Club

[irondarts]

[QUOTE=irondarts]My predictions:

Best Picture: 12 Years A Slave
Best Director: Alfonso Cuar

[KingBeasley08]

Best Picture: 12 Years A Slave (The Wolf of Wall Street)
Best Director: Alfonso Cuaron (Alfonso Cuaron)
Best Actor: Matthew McCon (Leonardo Dicaprio)
Best Actress: Cate Blanchett (Cate Blanchett)
Best Supporting Actor: Jared Leto (Michael Fassbender)
Best Supporting Actress: Lupita Nyongo (Julia Roberts

Book it. Names in parenthesis are who I would vote for but the people I said on the left will win guaranteed
Killed it.

[christian1923]

Ok, so when do we all start the usual silly backlash against Gravity, 12 Years a Slave and Dallas Buyers Club? Do these movies suck yet?
Gravity was trash

[ROCSteady]

I haven't seen Blue Jasmine.

Was Cate Blanchett really as good as people are saying?


Yes. Mos Def. She inhabited that role so well and made the character bizarre, tragic, self-focused, troubled & also very funny.

Haven't thought that somebody was as perfect and natural for a particular role in a long while.

Matthew McCon was excellent but she was on a diff level.

[Qwyjibo]

Gravity was trash
And it begins!

[JohnFreeman]

Am I the only one who thinks Leo hasn't done anything worthy of an Oscar?

[TylerOO]

Hoes on twitter won't stfu about Leo not winning .

[JohnFreeman]

Hoes on twitter won't stfu about Leo not winning .
Cry for the guy making millions :oldlol:

[alenleomessi]

pacino having 1 oscar and di caprio 0.. and norton not winning one for primal fear just shows how dumb this shit is.. and im even dumber for staying up to 6 am

[KevinNYC]

Whose the fat black guy?
You're probably thinking of Steve McQueen.
He did a couple of movies with Michael Fassbender and 12 Years a Slave

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2588606/

[KevinNYC]

I haven't seen Blue Jasmine.

Was Cate Blanchett really as good as people are saying?

Yes. She was really, really good. There's a really good scene at the beginning of the movie, where the introduce her as a character. She gives this monologue with a ton of her backstory and you quickly realize she's nuts.

[T_L_P]

Damn, people really think Leo is the GOAT actor or something :oldlol:

Fassbender's performances in the three Steve McQueen films are worth more than Leo's entire filmography, and I'm a fan of Leo :roll:

[KevinNYC]

Wait, what? God gave all this to him? Hey screw you God, give the rest of us something too!

I like how the crowd gave the same amount of applause for both God and Woody Allen.

[Qwyjibo]

I still can't believe Fassbender wasn't even nominated for Shame. Looking back at the nominees for every single acting award that year, none did a better job than him.

Old white men. That's your academy and that's why it the winners become so predictable.

[KevinNYC]

I still can't believe Fassbender wasn't even nominated for Shame. Looking back at the nominees for every single acting award that year, none did a better job than him.

Old white men. That's your academy and that's why it the winners become so predictable.

Doesn't surprise me at all. A movie about sex addiction is a hard sell to begin with. Dramatically there wasn't much story to Shame is more of a character sketch.

[KingBeasley08]

I thought Leo was the best this year but people need to chill out lol. Overall, he's probably the biggest star in Hollywood considering box office appeal and critical acclaim. Him losing doesn't mean shit :oldlol:

[JohnFreeman]

pacino having 1 oscar and di caprio 0.. and norton not winning one for primal fear just shows how dumb this shit is.. and im even dumber for staying up to 6 am
Don't talk shit about Don Corleone

[riseagainst]

pacino having 1 oscar and di caprio 0.. and norton not winning one for primal fear just shows how dumb this shit is.. and im even dumber for staying up to 6 am

this doesn't mean anything. Pacino and Leo both deserve multiple and at least one oscar for their consistent performances, but in no way means they out did someone else's performance in those years.

Anyway, Matthew McCon was the favorites for this year's Oscars. Literally everyone knew he was going to win and it was very well deserved. So idk what your problem is.
:coleman:

[BasedTom]

They won't give Leo an Oscar because they want him to keep trying. He's definitely going to win one at some point.

I didn't even like Leo until his recent resurgence. I thought he was just another 90s Disney-ish pretty boy. Both him and McConaughey had a brutal stretch where they were in shitty movies. Lots of Oscar winners have been in shitty movies in their career.

[Patrick Chewing]

I still can't believe Fassbender wasn't even nominated for Shame.


That movie was such garbage.

[no pun intended]

http://media.giphy.com/media/5VIjIJ9YO5lyU/giphy.gif

McConaughey: These are your dreams

[jamal99]

I thought Leo was the best this year but people need to chill out lol. Overall, he's probably the biggest star in Hollywood considering box office appeal and critical acclaim. Him losing doesn't mean shit :oldlol:
You dont't really lose if you're being nominated for Oscar. Nomination still brings a certain amount of hype and acclamation.
And as I said earlier, he had better performances in movies with more artistic and emotional value than "The Wolf of Wall Street".

[The-Legend-24]

http://i.imgur.com/2I45Tuh.gif

[-p.tiddy-]

MM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Leo


Not even close either

[Qwyjibo]

Leo is great but really, each year there has always been someone better. You know we're all going to complain when he finally wins it for a relatively underwhelming role as a "career achievement" nod more than for the role itself.

[-p.tiddy-]

Am I the only one who thinks Leo hasn't done anything worthy of an Oscar?
No, you're not

[DonDadda59]

MM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Leo


Not even close either

This. All the right picks won. Leo will get his lifetime achievement award eventually.

Or he can actually do something other than squint really hard and try to pass that off as acting :lol

Needs to get on that Rocky 3 steez, go back to the beginning. Challenge himself like he did when he was a teenager. Dude is 3/31 in wins vs nominations and 0/5 at the Oscars :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Leonard o_DiCaprio

[KevinNYC]

http://i.imgur.com/2I45Tuh.gif
Yeah, if he won it was going to be for that scene.

Also check this out
https://twitter.com/leahkpickett/status/440349163587268610

[KevinNYC]

And the documentary that won, 20 Feet From Stardom is great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWyUJcA8Zfo

I really want to see The Act of Killing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD5oMxbMcHM

[KingBeasley08]

MM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Leo


Not even close either
For this year, sure. But Leo in Wolf was better than McCon in DBC

[JohnFreeman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bhxef82CIAAjPg8.png

[miller-time]

Am I the only one who thinks Leo hasn't done anything worthy of an Oscar?

Best supporting actor for Gilbert Grape. Easily deserved that one.

[9erempiree]

I really don't like Leo because he cherry picks his role. He goes with the sure bet and that is with Scorcese.

[KingBeasley08]

I really don't like Leo because he cherry picks his role. He goes with the sure bet and that is with Scorcese.
Lettuce be real doe. If Scorsese offered to make you his go to guy, who'd refuse? Not Leo's fault he's one of the most bankable stars out there (if not the most) and gets his pick of the movies

Fck him doe. McConaughey is on fire right now. Dude has the Emmy coming up in the bag and is headlining a Christopher Nolan movie. GOAT career turnaround

[ROCSteady]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bhxef82CIAAjPg8.png

That Nnamdi Asomugha lookin African is a grade A coattail rider.



Lol everyone in the pic is a well known person and dude came thru in prime position. Prolly post it to his IG and FB like, "Me and my crew."


Haha jk I was happy for his sister though

[T_L_P]

That movie was such garbage.

How so?

[T_L_P]

The worst thing about all the crazed Leo fans is that if he hadn't done Wolf of Wall Street, they'd be crying that he didn't win for The Great Gatsby.

They see his name and just scream "Oscar!", without even seeing the other performances or reflected properly on their hero's.

Also, how the **** did The Act of Killing not win?

It was probably the best thing released all year, let alone the best documentary.

[irondarts]

I have to say - this was a very good Oscars. Great year for films and a great Academy Awards.

[pezt]

best picture: 12 Years a slave

best actor: Matthew McConnaughey

best actress: Cate Blanchett

best supporting actor: Jared Leto

best supporting actress: Lupita Nyong'o


If only I had bet on it...

[bdreason]

Leo is approaching Susan Lucci territory.

[bballnoob1192]

If only I had bet on it...
all the favorites won so your odds were prolly 1:1 at best

[pezt]

all the favorites won so your odds were prolly 1:1 at best

I knew Best Director and Best Original Screenplay as well and even though all were pretty obvious the odds were about 3-4:1 I think.
Not much but better than nothing.

[Lebron23]

Best supporting actor for Gilbert Grape. Easily deserved that one.
Leo's a better actor when he was a teenager.

[Nick Young]

Leonardo Di Caprio was robbed.

It was only due to the subject matter of the role that he lost to McConohay. MM was a dude with AIDS, Leo played a badass mysogynist drug addict CEO-of course oscars vote for the sob role of the AIDS dude for political reasons. Leo in Wolf of Wallstreet was one of the greatest performances of all time.

[JohnFreeman]

Leonardo Di Caprio was robbed.

It was only due to the subject matter of the role that he lost to McConohay. MM was a dude with AIDS, Leo played a badass mysogynist drug addict CEO-of course oscars vote for the sob role of the AIDS dude for political reasons. Leo in Wolf of Wallstreet was one of the greatest performances of all time.
http://umbu.com/gif/2014/02/nicolascage.gif

[embersyc]

Leonardo Di Caprio was robbed.

It was only due to the subject matter of the role that he lost to McConohay. MM was a dude with AIDS, Leo played a badass mysogynist drug addict CEO-of course oscars vote for the sob role of the AIDS dude for political reasons. Leo in Wolf of Wallstreet was one of the greatest performances of all time.

Leo was great, but calm down, MM was better in Wolf of Wallstreet than Leo too.

[KingBeasley08]

Leo was great, but calm down, MM was better in Wolf of Wallstreet than Leo too.
:wtf:

[Andrei89]

Leo is on of my favorite actors. However, I do think that MM deserved the Oscar more.

[juju151111]

Lol at Leo not winning a Oscar. He should stop going completely, but because he always goes it would make him look like a sour loser. He should of never went in the first place. Leo Wil win one in 10 years for some BS performance for lifetime achievement. I hope Leo doesn't sell out and play some Homo to get his Oscar.:facepalm

[juju151111]

Damn, people really think Leo is the GOAT actor or something :oldlol:

Fassbender's performances in the three Steve McQueen films are worth more than Leo's entire filmography, and I'm a fan of Leo :roll:
Bs

[juju151111]

They won't give Leo an Oscar because they want him to keep trying. He's definitely going to win one at some point.

I didn't even like Leo until his recent resurgence. I thought he was just another 90s Disney-ish pretty boy. Both him and McConaughey had a brutal stretch where they were in shitty movies. Lots of Oscar winners have been in shitty movies in their career.
What shitty movie has Leo been in? He took a few years and made a couple of blockbusters.

[rufuspaul]

Leo in Wolf of Wallstreet was one of the greatest performances of all time.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[KevinNYC]

He should of never went in the first place.

He should start a band that plays every Sunday night and then when the Oscars roll around, he should be just like, sorry, playing clarinet with my band. *



* Rep for those who catch the reference.

[rufuspaul]

He should start a band that plays every Sunday night and then when the Oscars roll around, he should be just like, sorry, playing clarinet with my band. *



* Rep for those who catch the reference.


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/rufuspaul/woodyclarinet_zpsc1a6bc56.jpg

[KevinNYC]

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/rufuspaul/woodyclarinet_zpsc1a6bc56.jpg

Indeed. Never saw him, but I did go to the Cafe Carlyle to see Bobby Short who I learned about from Hannah and Her Sisters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo3xumxEno8&list=PL0EFAC175C5EA638F

Saw him twice, once right before he passed away. It was like the most Upper East Side thing, I've ever done.

[rufuspaul]

Indeed. Never saw him, but I did go to the Cafe Carlyle to see Bobby Short who I learned about from Hannah and Her Sisters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo3xumxEno8&list=PL0EFAC175C5EA638F

Saw him twice, once right before he passed away. It was like the most Upper East Side thing, I've ever done.


:cheers: I bet you were the only one in the audience under 60.

[alenleomessi]

They won't give Leo an Oscar because they want him to keep trying. He's definitely going to win one at some point.

I didn't even like Leo until his recent resurgence. I thought he was just another 90s Disney-ish pretty boy. Both him and McConaughey had a brutal stretch where they were in shitty movies. Lots of Oscar winners have been in shitty movies in their career.
what shitty movies? :biggums:

[alenleomessi]

this doesn't mean anything. Pacino and Leo both deserve multiple and at least one oscar for their consistent performances, but in no way means they out did someone else's performance in those years.

Anyway, Matthew McCon was the favorites for this year's Oscars. Literally everyone knew he was going to win and it was very well deserved. So idk what your problem is.
:coleman:
i dont care who won that year but pacino absolutely deserved to win for godfather 2 and dog day afternoon
same for di caprio for whats eating gilbert grape and the aviator

[KevinNYC]

:cheers: I bet you were the only one in the audience under 60.

Saw him twice. Once on Valentine's Day and once on Christmas Eve. On Christmas Eve there were some families. I think we were among the youngest the first time, we had a shitty table up by column.

The second time, it was just a mass of people waiting to get in. They have two performances spaces off a tiny lobby, so until they opened the doors and it's a crush of people and these were all 1 percenters used to being the most important folks and getting their way and not used to standing in line. It was hilarious to hear them all trying to get special treatment at once. A family from Texas pulled up in a limo and tipped the doorman a few grand. They still had to wait a bit.

We decided to hang back and just let these folks blow off steam and when it came time to go in they mentioned we would be sharing a long table with other folks. Turns out, we got two seats literally right next to the piano. Best seats in the House.

[KevinNYC]

i dont care who won that year but pacino absolutely deserved to win for godfather 2 and dog day afternoon

And he didn't deserve to win for Scent of a Woman, which they gave to him for not giving it to him for Godfather 2.

[Qwyjibo]

i dont care who won that year but pacino absolutely deserved to win for godfather 2 and dog day afternoon
same for di caprio for whats eating gilbert grape and the aviator
Looking back at those nominees, Don Cheadle in Hotel Rwanda > Leo, IMO.

Again, Leo's body of work is amazing but none of his Oscar losses have been outrageous. Consistently one of the best, never the absolute best.

[alenleomessi]

And he didn't deserve to win for Scent of a Woman, which they gave to him for not giving it to him for Godfather 2.
you are one of those guys that think denzel should have 5 oscars?

[irondarts]

Did anyone else notice how cold Steve McQueen was towards John Ridley when Ridley won Best Adapted Screenplay for 12 Years? You could just tell there was some tension there.

[KevinNYC]

you are one of those guys that think denzel should have 5 oscars?
Actually, I'm a big Al Pacino fan when he works with strong director who keeps his worst tendencies in check. I just think Scent of a Woman was a shitty movie and shitty performance.

[I<3NBA]

Leonardo Di Caprio was robbed.

It was only due to the subject matter of the role that he lost to McConohay. MM was a dude with AIDS, Leo played a badass mysogynist drug addict CEO-of course oscars vote for the sob role of the AIDS dude for political reasons. Leo in Wolf of Wallstreet was one of the greatest performances of all time.
how many movies have you watched? i bet less than ten.

[KevinNYC]

Did anyone else notice how cold Steve McQueen was towards John Ridley when Ridley won Best Adapted Screenplay for 12 Years? You could just tell there was some tension there.

I didn't notice that, but I did notice that John Ridley looked super serious when he won. Wasn't happy at all. Perhaps it was he wanted to be sure he got the tone of his speech to match the seriousness of the subject material, but it did strike me as odd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwqyOrDgEdc


Lupita's reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fluQ6iyy85g

[KevinNYC]

Did anyone else record the Oscars while watching True Detective? That was totally the way to go. Was able to fast forward through most the Oscarcast right up to about best actor, then had to start watching live.

Was able to skip through all the painful, stilted introductions and rewind if anything looked funny.

[irondarts]

I didn't notice that, but I did notice that John Ridley looked super serious when he won. Wasn't happy at all. Perhaps it was he wanted to be sure he got the tone of his speech to match the seriousness of the subject material, but it did strike me as odd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwqyOrDgEdc


Lupita's reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fluQ6iyy85g
John Ridley also never thanked McQueen in his speech and McQueen didn't acknowledge Ridley when he won, didn't even get up.

Salon wrote up something about it this morning:

[quote]While the

[T_L_P]

Leonardo Di Caprio was robbed.

It was only due to the subject matter of the role that he lost to McConohay. MM was a dude with AIDS, Leo played a badass mysogynist drug addict CEO-of course oscars vote for the sob role of the AIDS dude for political reasons. Leo in Wolf of Wallstreet was one of the greatest performances of all time.

:biggums:

He's not near some of the all-time greats. He's a bankable Hollywood star who works with good directors and thus everybody thinks he's a God of acting.

Fassbender's performances in the three Steve McQueen films are worth more than Leo's entire filmography.

[KevinNYC]

John Ridley also never thanked McQueen in his speech and McQueen didn't acknowledge Ridley when he won, didn't even get up.
Perhaps that accounts for the tension I perceived on Ridley's face.


Entertainment reporter says it's over screenplay credit
Nikki Finke ‏@NikkiFinke 11h
My sources attributing John Ridley-Steve McQueen cold shoulder at Oscars tonight to dispute over screenplay credit. Perhaps McQueen thought he should have shared credit.

[KevinNYC]

Perhaps that accounts for the tension I perceived on Ridley's face.


Entertainment reporter says it's over screenplay credit
Nikki Finke ‏@NikkiFinke 11h
My sources attributing John Ridley-Steve McQueen cold shoulder at Oscars tonight to dispute over screenplay credit. Perhaps McQueen thought he should have shared credit.

Based on this article
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,271057,00.html

I would say that Ridley signed a deal that guaranteed him sole screenwriter credit and that McQueen extensively rewrote the script and felt he just got cheated out of a co-screenwriter Oscar.

[T_L_P]

I think the only award I'm slightly mad about is Best Supporting Actor.

That really was Fassbender's award, no matter how good Leto was. Then again, Fassbender said he wouldn't be campaigning this year so he no real chance of winning.

[KingBeasley08]

I think the only award I'm slightly mad about is Best Supporting Actor.

That really was Fassbender's award, no matter how good Leto was. Then again, Fassbender said he wouldn't be campaigning this year so he no real chance of winning.
Fassbender and Abdi were both better. Leto was mad overrated. DBC overall was very average. McCon was amazing and pretty much carried that movie from shit to decent. Leto, I couldn't take him as a tranny seriously at all. One of the times where I think he had such a interesting role, all reviews were positive and people convinced themselves he was good

[riseagainst]

Fassbender and Abdi were both better. Leto was mad overrated. DBC overall was very average. McCon was amazing and pretty much carried that movie from shit to decent. Leto, I couldn't take him as a tranny seriously at all. One of the times where I think he had such a interesting role, all reviews were positive and people convinced themselves he was good
ok let's not bag the dude. He had an amazing performance and it could have gone to Fassbender.

[KevinNYC]

Anybody see the Oscar winning documentary from last year? How to Survive a Plague? I just went to chiropractor's and found out he plays a big part in that story. We were talking about the Oscar's and Dallas Buyer's Club and he mentioned the documentary from last year was about the ACT UP and the AIDS crisis. He was one of the folks who broke from ACT UP to work with NIH to study what exactly was causing the disease. This led to drug cocktails breakhtroughs that keep Magic Johnson among others alive.

[irondarts]

Fassbender and Abdi were both better. Leto was mad overrated. DBC overall was very average. McCon was amazing and pretty much carried that movie from shit to decent. Leto, I couldn't take him as a tranny seriously at all. One of the times where I think he had such a interesting role, all reviews were positive and people convinced themselves he was good
I love Abdi's story, how this was his first acting job, he was great - but holy shit he might be the ugliest human I've ever seen. He was perfect for that part and did a great job. But come on, Leto was incredible.

[JerryWest]

Why are people shocked Leo lost? He cherry picks his role every year, he needs to expand his acting with different types of movies.

[irondarts]

Here's the full story between Steve McQueen and John Ridley's beef:

[quote]TheWrap has divulged the details of a reported rift between

[Nick Young]

Here's the full story between Steve McQueen and John Ridley's beef:



link (http://www.salon.com/2014/03/03/here_are_the_details_of_the_reported_rift_between_ steve_mcqueen_and_john_ridley/)
who really gives a shit besides homos and menopausal women doe?

[step_back]

Why are people shocked Leo lost? He cherry picks his role every year, he needs to expand his acting with different types of movies.

From his performance in Wolf I'd think he'd be brilliant in comedy roles. He should definitely mix it up a bit.

[HardwoodLegend]

John Ridley acknowledged Steve McQueen when he won his Independent Spurit Award, but he had a slightly menacing tone about it.

Anybody watch the Film Independent Spirit Awards show, btw? Way more entertaining than the Oscars.

[Dbrog]

I think the only award I'm slightly mad about is Best Supporting Actor.

That really was Fassbender's award, no matter how good Leto was. Then again, Fassbender said he wouldn't be campaigning this year so he no real chance of winning.

I felt Fassbender should have won as well but Leto was certainly an oscar-worthy performance too. The real travesty was 12 years a slave winning best picture (IMO only Captain Phillips was a worse nominee) and I thought American Hustle got robbed on some of the aesthetic awards.

[T_L_P]

I felt Fassbender should have won as well but Leto was certainly an oscar-worthy performance too. The real travesty was 12 years a slave winning best picture (IMO only Captain Phillips was a worse nominee) and I thought American Hustle got robbed on some of the aesthetic awards.

:biggums:

What's your beef with 12 Years bro? I personally thought it was the best of the nominees, with the possible exception of Her.

[Dbrog]

:biggums:

What's your beef with 12 Years bro? I personally thought it was the best of the nominees, with the possible exception of Her.

Her was actually my favorite. As for 12 years...

I was totally going in expecting to feel very emotional and empathetic...but the movie never even came close to getting there for me. We never really get very close to Solomon and only get a vague story of his past which seems to be used as a plot device to help the viewer feel as though they’ve been ripped from their own family (overly obvious). Add to this that he doesn’t get many lines in the movie. I would go so far as to say all the characters in the movie are incredibly shallow and single faceted with the exception of Fassbender's character (I think he shoulda won the oscar for this role) and possibly Cumberbatch's character (less so). The scenes are drawn on for too long (used to create discomfort in the audience) and it just feels like the films messages are being shoved down your throat. I find it pretentious...clearly others interpret it differently. In my opinion, this movie was only made as oscar-bait. Her, American Hustle, and Dallas Buyers Club (just saw this) were all significantly better than this. Hell, Prisoners was much better and impressed many of the same themes onto the audience and was much more affective with them.

[irondarts]

Best Supporting Actor nominee Barkhad Abdi is apparently dead broke:


Oscar-nominated Captain Phillips star Barkhad Abdi is, apparently, the ultimate hipster: really cool and desperate for cash. In a profile that’s only available to subscribers, The New Yorker’s Dana Goodyear writes that Abdi made just $65,000 for his supporting role as Abduwali Muse, the real-life Somali pirate who hijacked the Maersk Alabama in 2009—and that payday was over two years ago. Meanwhile, the Tom Hanks-starring film grossed $107 million in theaters, off of its budget of $55 million.

Though he’s received numerous accolades for his work, including a nod from the Academy and a BAFTA, Abdi has yet to find work in the post-Phillips world. Abdi worked as a livery cab driver before the film; after filming, he sold mobile phones in his hometown of Cedar-Riverside, a neighborhood in Minneapolis. The clothes he’s been wearing on publicity tours (including, presumably, his suit at the Oscars) are loaners from the studio, Columbia Pictures, while he’s been living off a per diem that’s good at the Beverly Hilton Hotel it puts him up in, and relying on a studio town car to get to his various events.

Abdi—who ad-libbed the most famous line in the film—plans to move to Los Angeles and live with Faysal Ahmed, his co-star. Here’s hoping they find work soon.

link (http://www.avclub.com/article/captain-phillips-barkhad-abdi-broke-201800)

Hope he finds more work soon.

[rezznor]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bhxef82CIAAjPg8.png

you are all sheep. this is what they really look like

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_ku-xlarge/zvlxirv4klgbxej00dw1.jpg


http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_ku-medium/wlsnjkockiax3szyp7k3.gif

[AlphaWolf24]

you are all sheep. this is what they really look like

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_ku-xlarge/zvlxirv4klgbxej00dw1.jpg


http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_ku-medium/wlsnjkockiax3szyp7k3.gif


That Movie had the GOAT Fight scene....