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insidehoops
03-02-2014, 12:27 AM
For one, Silver said he is "fascinated" with the idea of a having a single-elimination tournament to determine the final playoff spots...

Regarding the NBA's current lottery system that determines the draft order for non-playoff teams, Silver admitted the system has issues. He likes the idea pushed by Boston Celtics assistant general manager Michael Zarren of a wheel system that assigns each team the 30 first-round picks during a 30-year cycle.

-- Sports Xchange

Jameerthefear
03-02-2014, 12:29 AM
No. Please no.

JohnFreeman
03-02-2014, 12:29 AM
For god sake. Terrible ideas

LeGOAT
03-02-2014, 12:31 AM
Single elimination tournament between the 8-12 seed teams in the East for the right to get their shit kicked in by Miami or Indiana? Sounds real exciting. :roll:

russwest0
03-02-2014, 12:46 AM
NBA in 2025 be like, ads all over the jerseys and shit, a stupid ass wheel for draft slot, 4 and 5 pointers, teams will run 4 guards and 1 forward, there will be average of 150 points scored each game, flopping will be encouraged, etc

Silver is a moron

FKAri
03-02-2014, 12:55 AM
The wheel is much better than the BS theyre running right now. I dunno bout the rest.

TaLvsCuaL
03-02-2014, 01:05 AM
Stern will end up looking like a good commissioner compared with this retard. :facepalm

Darius
03-02-2014, 09:47 AM
Bunch of conservatives in here.

Tanking is hurting the game. I'm glad they are trying to come up with creative solutions.

niko
03-02-2014, 09:51 AM
For one, Silver said he is "fascinated" with the idea of a having a single-elimination tournament to determine the final playoff spots...

Regarding the NBA's current lottery system that determines the draft order for non-playoff teams, Silver admitted the system has issues. He likes the idea pushed by Boston Celtics assistant general manager Michael Zarren of a wheel system that assigns each team the 30 first-round picks during a 30-year cycle.

-- Sports Xchange
No he doesn't. He actually has (i've heard him say it) said that the idea wouldn't work so they are not considering it. It would not let teams address needs during times they needed to.

bagelred
03-02-2014, 09:52 AM
NBA in 2025 be like, ads all over the jerseys and shit, a stupid ass wheel for draft slot, 4 and 5 pointers, teams will run 4 guards and 1 forward, there will be average of 150 points scored each game, flopping will be encouraged, etc

Silver is a moron

You make a list of mostly things that will never happen, and then call Silver a moron for those things you made up that will never happen.

Who's the REAL moron, eh?

niko
03-02-2014, 09:52 AM
Bunch of conservatives in here.

Tanking is hurting the game. I'm glad they are trying to come up with creative solutions.
So instead we'd introduce blink luck into team building. You're a 60 win team but it's your turn to get #1. That's just great for a competitive league.

MichaelCorleone
03-02-2014, 10:01 AM
:banghead:

BoutPractice
03-02-2014, 10:08 AM
The same people who complain about the game today are those who want to keep it the same whenever changes of any kind are being proposed.

None of those ideas are "terrible". I disagree with the draft system, and I'm mostly neutral when it comes to elimination tournaments, but I like the open-mindedness. It's only natural when there's a new boss that they'll consider new ideas for a while.

Rose'sACL
03-02-2014, 10:21 AM
So instead we'd introduce blink luck into team building. You're a 60 win team but it's your turn to get #1. That's just great for a competitive league.
so you're saying that teams should be punished for playing well. nice.

One con of that idea is that some players might stay one more year in college if the team they like has number one pick 1 year later. They have to just implement the rule that you have to stay either 1 year or at least 3 years in college. you can't leave after 2 years of college. this will make it idiotic to wait 2 more years just to land on the team you like because of the fear of injury.

current draft rules clearly support tanking and this draft wheel idea is the best one i have read.

ILLsmak
03-02-2014, 10:32 AM
Stern will end up looking like a good commissioner compared with this retard. :facepalm

Cmon, Stern would look like a good commissioner compared with any retard.

-Smak

I<3NBA
03-02-2014, 11:03 AM
no one is entertaining that there's already a perfect solution to tanking, and it's called relegation. typical americans. solution staring them in the face and refuse to look at it.

Kblaze8855
03-02-2014, 11:11 AM
Throw out seeding and do it by record....14 worst records are in the lottery with tie breakers to decide who gets in and who doesnt. Not weighted in any way and even playoff teams can make it if the record isnt top 16. 22 win team has no better chance than a 38 win team so no need to go into ultra tank mode. Try to win games...a bad team just wont win that many but you wont have to straight sabotage games/seasons. Let your young guys play and be happy when they win not upset it costs you lottery balls.

But to help the worst just a bit....

Dont give the top 6 records a first round pick at all. Give those picks (25 through 30) to the teams with the 6 worst records.

In addition...the teams that get those 6 can opt out and instead access a new version of the MLE where they give up that second first rounder(back to the top 6 record team it came from) for the right to sign anyone to a 4 or less year deal with 6 million a season that will not count against the salary cap.

So lets say the top 6 records are:

Pacers(Best)
Heat
Thunder
Spurs
Rockets
Clippers

bottom 6

76ers(worst)
Lakers
Knicks
Celtics
Bobcats
Kings

Flip the order so the worst team gets the highest extra pick.

So 76ers dont get the Pacers pick...they get the Clippers..so the 25th pick and whatever lottery pick they get in the drawing which we would film and put on youtube after the show at which we reveal the winners in reverse order(Keep the drama but let people see it isnt rigged later).

If they dont have anyone they are in love with that deep a pick and the owner isnt cheap they can swap it for the extra no cap hit MLE.

Get the lottery pick, sign someone who will take 4 years 24 million(lots of good role players would), and keep whatever cap space you have.

You could potentially draft a young guy with potential, sign a big FA, and even if he eats all your space you still have the regular MLE AND your extra MLE.

Might say....draft Parker 4th, sign Lowry with your cap space, use the old MLE to sign a vet role player like Tony Allen and the new one to sign someone like Jimmy Butler or Shumpert. Get more help right away than the 26th pick usually gives and dont have Butler/shump count against the cap for 4 years.

Cheap teams can just draft the two first rounders and hope to strike gold on the rookie scale deals but teams honestly trying to turn it around can get an extra signing to help out without taking cap space needed later.

The worst teams should all gradually get better.

Could even allow those bottom 6 teams the right to amnesty one player at the end of the season to get additional cap space.

A 20 win team should then get a lottery pick(1-14), either a second first rounder or an extra MLE off the books, get to take an additional contract they dont want off the books(player gets paid anyway he wont care), and go into every free agency period with two MLEs one of which has no cap hit and whatever extra financial freedom comes from cutting their worst deal.

If you cant build a good team after 3 years of that you dont deserve a team.

Hell if im the commish id say any team in the bottom 6 more than 3 years in a row has a mandatory front office change.

Hang a "Basketball reasons" sign on the now empty offices of their GM and let ISH vote on team moves and right the ship.

Psileas
03-02-2014, 11:11 AM
New NBA commissioner open to changing draft

Hopefully, it won't involve the wheel. Just to begin with, it would take 30 years in order to make it "fair" for everybody. And even so, it would be far from fair, since a certain team getting #1 might get the benefit of a once in a generation talent and some other may get screwed. What will happen with them? Wait for another 30 years?


playoffs

Also hopefully, it won't involve what he thinks is a good idea. I'd rather see the East-West barrier eliminated and have all the real best teams contend in the end. Its only disadvantage would be practicality (longer travels, possibly longer intervals between games).

MightyWhitey
03-02-2014, 11:20 AM
What Silver should address is the cry baby complaining from the players everytime a call is made. Tyson Chandler acts like a big Bitch with every call.
I actually like the draft lottery idea. That would certainly improve the game.

Derka
03-02-2014, 11:33 AM
The tanking thing has to stop. It *has* to go away. Whatever they have to do to make that a reality, I'm all for it.

CelticBaller
03-02-2014, 11:54 AM
Silver is the devil

Pushxx
03-02-2014, 01:13 PM
For one, Silver said he is "fascinated" with the idea of a having a single-elimination tournament to determine the final playoff spots...

Holy shitttttt. It's a disaster in baseball. I would cry if this happened in the NBA.

Darius
03-02-2014, 01:47 PM
So instead we'd introduce blink luck into team building. You're a 60 win team but it's your turn to get #1. That's just great for a competitive league.

He hasn't done anything.

The 30 year roulette is ONE solution that people are talking about.

Silver is a smart guy and I think he'll make good calls.

Just showing he is open to looking at endemic problems with the game is a refreshing change from David Stern.

He is already making great changes such as having a ref "control room" to review contested calls quickly.

Darius
03-02-2014, 01:52 PM
Single elimination tournament is an awesome idea by the way and would bring a lot of interest.

If you all teams have a chance to make the playoffs at the end of the year a lot of them probably wouldn't out-right tank (putting all vets on injured list/trading them, trotting out ridiculous line-ups) because they wouldn't have any team chemistry for the tourney.

waseem780
03-02-2014, 02:57 PM
tournament sounds good its basically a few extra playoff games :)

draft cycle is meh but I wouldn't really wanna mess with something that big