True or False: Dwight Howard can score > 30ppg on > 50%...

[CavaliersFTW]

...If his teams were simply structured to run their offense through him?

[JohnFreeman]

Well this is the weakest era for centers, so probably

[Smook A.]

Maybe

[ABfor3]

True, center position is as weak as it's ever been.

[Heavincent]

False.

[Smoke117]

He could definitely, but I don't think it would be good basketball. I honestly never get the hate on Dwight...the guy with his limited offensive ability pretty easily scores 20ppg. He gets fouled so much because opponents have no other course but to give up a basket or foul him and go for that 1/2 (more or less) chance he'll miss a ft. He literally always almost averages as many ft's as he does shot attempts because he basically gets fouled on half his fg attempts. It wouldn't really be hard for Dwight to average 30ppg if he was taking 16-18fga's because he would end up taking nearly as many fta's...lol.

[fpliii]

Most likely.

[red1]

on a winning team? false

[navy]

Probably, but they wouldnt win. 50% is too high because eventually he would be double and triple teamed.

[Heavincent]

Wait, so people in this thread are telling me Dwight Howard is capable of putting up numbers comparable with peak Shaq?

:biggums:

[Black and White]

True, if his FT% went up he could easily be averaging 25

[Milbuck]

Well of course he can if he was given the green light and his teammates just kept giving it to him. But that team will not win anything substantial.

[moe94]

Wait, so people in this thread are telling me Dwight Howard is capable of putting up numbers comparable with peak Shaq?

:biggums:

There's a peak Shaq inside everyone, even you and I. We're all Shaq inside.

[SCdac]

He's a career 18 ppg player... but if he could improve his free throws to ~75% he could approach 25-26 ppg probably.

His jump shot is ugly though. I couldn't imagine a team asking Dwight to shoot 20 times a game, ala Kareem or Hakeem.

[CavaliersFTW]

on a winning team? false
Regardless if it is a winning team, I'm just wondering what consensus is whether or not he's simply capable of putting up what would be considered an all-time historically dominant scoring season given his abilities, if he did > 30ppg on > 50% he'd have a season up there in Kareem/Wilt territory as a peak scorer... Shaq and Robinson technically didn't even quite make those numbers (though they came close).

[CavaliersFTW]

BTW, was being fed the ball on offense not his role in Orlando? If not, what was it?

[SCdac]

I think prime Amare had a much better chance of doing this... had he not gotten injured

[ArbitraryWater]

Of course... people think his fg% would drop by 10 just cause he takes 20 shots? (8 more)

[Bandito]

He has to shoot like 30 times a game to get 30 pts so I can see that happening.

[ArbitraryWater]

BTW, was being fed the ball on offense not his role in Orlando? If not, what was it?

Why ask the damn question then? :rolleyes: :facepalm

[sbw19]

Dwight averages 11.2FGA/g for his career. career-high 13.4 as offense focal point, 11.6 this season.

[ArbitraryWater]

He has to shoot like 30 times a game to get 30 pts so I can see that happening.

If he would need 30 shots :facepalm his % wouldn't be over 50 anymore, retard

[CavaliersFTW]

Why ask the damn question then? :rolleyes: :facepalm
I only really watched/payed attention to Dwight in the playoffs when he was with Orlando, when he dominated the Cavs, this was years ago, and the Cavs never really had an answer for him so I'm not sure if he was being fed that much all the time or just against teams that couldn't match up to him. So why ask? To learn and gain a better understanding of the topic at hand, that's why anyone asks questions I would imagine.

[navy]

BTW, was being fed the ball on offense not his role in Orlando? If not, what was it?

He ran pick and roll alot and the team chucked 3s. Take that as you will.

[Jameerthefear]

he'd turn it over too much too unless the offense was based more on PnR.

[Smook A.]

He's averaging 19 ppg on 12 shots per game. He can easily average 30 if he took about 20 shots. Alot of guys can put up 30+ ppg if they get 20 shot attempts every game

[Jameerthefear]

He ran pick and roll alot and the team chucked 3s. Take that as you will.
Stop. Don't post an opinion about the Magic again ever.

[Jameerthefear]

I feel like if Dwight never got injured he'd be a 25 ppg scorer on like 56% right now. Not even lying.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Definitely.

[fpliii]

Regardless if it is a winning team, I'm just wondering what consensus is whether or not he's simply capable of putting up what would be considered an all-time historically dominant scoring season given his abilities, if he did > 30ppg on > 50% he'd have a season up there in Kareem/Wilt territory as a peak scorer... Shaq and Robinson technically didn't even quite make those numbers (though they came close).
I mean, he obviously could put up 30 if you give him enough shots. It's just a question of how many.

Unlike your Kareems/Wilts/Shaqs though, with Dwight it wouldn't be in the context of winning basketball though. I think he's best off in his current role, playing off of the three point shooters (and them playing off of him), with a good deal of PnR sprinkled in there.

[MichaelCorleone]

True.

[Sarcastic]

No. He doesn't have the skill to get that many shots off.

Getting good shots off is not any easy thing to do. Only people who have never played basketball think chucking is easy.

[LeGOAT]

40 ppg on 75% shooting in the 60's

[SilkkTheShocker]

40 ppg on 75% shooting in the 60's


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[sbw19]

Only people who have never played basketball think chucking is easy.
QFT:bowdown:

[Milbuck]

On second thought, no.

[Real Men Wear Green]

No. If he had that kind of scoring ability someone would have taken advantage of it by now. McHale and Olajuwon may be changing this but he's just not that skilled.

[Smoke117]

No. He doesn't have the skill to get that many shots off.

Getting good shots off is not any easy thing to do. Only people who have never played basketball think chucking is easy.

What does skill have to do with anything? In 2002 Allen Iverson averaged 27.8 shot attempts to average 31.4ppg...there are literally dozens upon dozens of players who could have done that. Howard would not even need close to 27.8 (with the 9.8fta iverson averaged) shot attempts to average 31.4ppg

Am I saying that is good for the game? **** no. Howard could easily average those 31.4ppg on better efficiency than Iverson who everyone holds in such high regard when he was a selfish chucking asshole his entire career.

[fpliii]

If not 30 ppg, what do you guys think the highest ppg he could manage with 50% FG% is?

[Jameerthefear]

If not 30 ppg, what do you guys think the highest ppg he could manage with 50% FG% is?
Current Dwight 25 ppg. Big maybe tho

[navy]

If not 30 ppg, what do you guys think the highest ppg he could manage with 50% FG% is?

23-25 maybe.

[Bandito]

he'd turn it over too much too unless the offense was based more on PnR.
Correct.

[longtime lurker]

Anyone that says yes to this has never bothered to watch Dwight play

[navy]

Stop. Don't post an opinion about the Magic again ever.
It wasnt an opinion. They led the league in 3 point attempts for three straight years.
(2nd place in 08-09)
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/offense-per-game/sort/avgThreePointFieldGoalsAttempted/year/2010

And im too lazy to find the stat, but Dwight was good at pick and roll and the Magic ran it alot.

[LAZERUSS]

I honestly don't know the answer to this, but it might give us a better clue...

How many 30+ point games has Howard had in his career, and then stretch that a bit to 40+?

[sbw19]

Consider the following: Shaq never averaged 30ppg in the regular season. Came closest with 29.7ppg, and all it took to achieve that was 21.1fga and 10.4fta per game.

[MichaelCorleone]

Consider the following: Shaq never averaged 30ppg in the regular season. Came closest with 29.7ppg, and all it took to achieve that was 21.1fga and 10.4fta per game.

He would if Kobe wasn't on the team ball hogging.

[ArbitraryWater]

What does skill have to do with anything? In 2002 Allen Iverson averaged 27.8 shot attempts to average 31.4ppg...there are literally dozens upon dozens of players who could have done that. Howard would not even need close to 27.8 (with the 9.8fta iverson averaged) shot attempts to average 31.4ppg

Am I saying that is good for the game? **** no. Howard could easily average those 31.4ppg on better efficiency than Iverson who everyone holds in such high regard when he was a selfish chucking asshole his entire career.

this

[sbw19]

He would if Kobe wasn't on the team ball hogging.
Shaq would've if he wanted to, just didn't care. Would've had Barkley not tossed ball at him and got him ejected.

[LAZERUSS]

What does skill have to do with anything? In 2002 Allen Iverson averaged 27.8 shot attempts to average 31.4ppg...there are literally dozens upon dozens of players who could have done that. Howard would not even need close to 27.8 (with the 9.8fta iverson averaged) shot attempts to average 31.4ppg

Am I saying that is good for the game? **** no. Howard could easily average those 31.4ppg on better efficiency than Iverson who everyone holds in such high regard when he was a selfish chucking asshole his entire career.

So I guess players like Tyson Chandler, Andre Drummond, and DeAndre Jordan could all be scoring 30+ ppg then? Just what in the hell are theri coach's thinking then? Why have other players scoring 28 ppg on .450 shooting, when these guys would do it easily?

[hoopslife]

If he got enough shots he could do it. The biggest issue would be his turnovers. He would average around 8 turnovers per game if he was getting 30 per.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

are you joking me?
Dwight is great defensively but as soon as he gets a bit defensive attention he gets stripped by 5

[Clyde]

dwight's god awful on offense......just plain ugly.

[Dr.J4ever]

Regardless if it is a winning team, I'm just wondering what consensus is whether or not he's simply capable of putting up what would be considered an all-time historically dominant scoring season given his abilities, if he did > 30ppg on > 50% he'd have a season up there in Kareem/Wilt territory as a peak scorer... Shaq and Robinson technically didn't even quite make those numbers (though they came close).
If a coach just designed plays for Howard all the time and didn't care about the results at the end of the game, yes it could be done. But why would any coach do that in the real world?

[YouGotServed]

Yes of course. If you really don't believe Dwight can score 30 on 50% you need to start questioning your own intelligence.

[Legends66NBA7]

Don't know, but if a team attempted to do this... Howard probably average a new record for turnover per game, total turnovers in a season, etc...

[Black Mamba's B]

Nope

[plowking]

Dwight's game is extremely hindered by his poor free throw shooting. If he became a 75% shooter at the line, he'd be able to, since teams wouldn't be so quick to foul him.

[sbw19]

Dwight's game is extremely hindered by his poor free throw shooting. If he became a 75% shooter at the line, he'd be able to, since teams wouldn't be so quick to foul him.
His FT shooting plays a very minor role imo. It would help if he improved it, but what he really needs is to improve is his footwork, ballhandling, passing, playmaking and dealing with double teams ie qualities needed to be able to run the offense.

Right now the offense runs through Harden, and if that doesn't change Howard won't have a shot.

[SHAQisGOAT]

**** no


I don't know whether to laugh or to smh at these ignorant tools saying that he could.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Yes of course. If you really don't believe Dwight can score 30 on 50% you need to start questioning your own intelligence.
fck outta here:coleman:

[Mr Exlax]

Well, in the 2010-2011 he averaged almost 23 ppg and like 59% so I think he for sure could get 30ppg on 50%. I think he has the ability in him. The main thing though is that teams are so quick to double and triple so he has to pass it out.

[BoutPractice]

In 2011 when he averaged 23 on 59% this was on only 13 shots: 8/13. By comparison when Shaq averaged 30 it was on 21 shots. 06 Kobe took twice as many shots per game as 11 Dwight. If Dwight is given 7 more shots in a game, it's unrealistic to think he'll make less than 2 out of 7 on average (keeping the free throw rate and percentage constant adjusting to volume). So yeah, it makes sense. That doesn't make him a great scorer though. The already high turnovers will probably reach an alarming volume, his defense will suffer due to fatigue, and you will be able to shut him down when it matters, which is why his teams make the calculation that he's better used the way he's used now.