George Karl Says Carmelo Anthony Isnt A Leader

[aboss4real24]

George Karl is the former head coach of Carmelo Anthony, and the New York Knicks' star experienced his longest postseason run under Karl in 2009.

Karl discussed Anthony and how his talent has not led to consistent winning with the Knicks. Karl did not disagree that Anthony could be best described as the prototypical AAU player who generates the most energy through his own shooting.

“There’s no question that he wants to win and his I.Q. for the game is actually very good,” Karl said. “He always wants to think like a coach, but he always doesn’t want to sign the contract with the coach.

“I think Melo respected me and I think he respects Mike Woodson. But I don’t think Melo understands that coming to work with the best attitude every single day is a precious commodity when you’re the best player. That’s not the same thing as playing hard. That’s bringing the total package, 100 percent focused on all the little things. Those are rare breeds. Kevin Garnett. Michael Jordan. LeBron didn’t always have it, but he has it now.

“Melo doesn’t get an A in that department — maybe not much more than a B-minus. It is, in a sense, the A.A.U. mind-set: We worked hard yesterday, maybe we can take a day off today. That’s why he really needs that player — the point guard or someone who takes on that role — to be the bridge from the coach to him.”

Karl praised the impact of Chauncey Billups during the Denver Nuggets' run to the Western Conference Finals in 2009.

“He had that championship mentality from Detroit that my team didn’t have,” Karl said. “It’s hard to define what that actually is, but I think it’s a combination of things: the leadership, the calming of a locker room, the peer pressure of making sure the right stuff is being talked about.”

In how that related to Anthony, Karl added, “He’s got to have that mental toughness around him for when he gets a little selfish.”

Via Harvey Araton/New York Times

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232218/George-Karl-Carmelo-Anthony-Still-Doesnt-Understand-Responsibilities-Of-Being-Best-Player

[Milbuck]

George Karl has zero credibility about this considering his disgusting lack of objectivity. No one should really give a shit about what he says regarding Melo.

[BrainDead]

The pink text is very hard on the eyes.

Didn't read

[Eric Cartman]

George is still butthurt after all these years :lol

[Akrazotile]

Karl trolls Anthony more than dudes here on this website.

[MellowYellow]

I wouldn't try to judge his capability to be a leader until he has decent teammates and a competent coach. There is not one player in the nba that woulda done much better with this team, too many holes.

[Mr. Incredible]

Karl really needs to stop talking about Melo. My goodness :facepalm. He sound so bitter.

[aboss4real24]

I wouldn't try to judge his capability to be a leader until he has decent teammates and a competent coach. There is not one player in the nba that woulda done much better with this team, too many holes.

Lebron would have them in Offs

other than that ur right

[Akrazotile]

I wouldn't try to judge his capability to be a leader until he has decent teammates and a competent coach. There is not one player in the nba that woulda done much better with this team, too many holes.


:rolleyes:

[MellowYellow]

Lebron would have them in Offs

other than that ur right

I doubt it, but I would love to see how he does with this team. He had much better teams in Cleveland

[ClutchOver9000]

lol what's this guy's deal?

[Myth]

The pink text is very hard on the eyes.

Didn't read

Same here. If it were a sentence or 2, sure, but I'm not reading that length of text in a hard to see pink.

[FPJ]

Yet Tommy Heinsohn has all the right to talk about Lebron, that double standard... :roll:

[miggyme1]

george karl is right

[ProfessorMurder]

George Karl has zero credibility about this considering his disgusting lack of objectivity. No one should really give a shit about what he says regarding Melo.

Just like we shouldn't give a shit about what you say about George Karl.

[russwest0]

George Karl is honestly ruining his reputation working for ESPN to the point where he says something like this and no one cares.

[rhowen4]

Im actually very sleepy so the pink text was nice on the eyes, thank you

[coin24]

George Karl = career loser
He should learn to shut the fu*k up. Constantly bitching about melo.
We all know he hates superstars and prefers 1st round exit deep teams:oldlol:

[livingby3's]

I wouldn't mind Melo on the Suns

[russwest0]

George Karl = career loser
He should learn to shut the fu*k up. Constantly bitching about melo.
We all know he hates superstars and prefers 1st round exit deep teams:oldlol:

He's just being used on ESPN as a semi-respectable basketball figure (since they have practically none) that buys into hype and spews the ESPN line of garbage. Early in the season when Paul George started off hot he was acting like Paul George was the 2nd best player in the league :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Whatever reputation he has/had, is pretty much going to shit right now with him working for ESPN and spewing this BS.

[HiphopRelated]

Neither is George Karl

[Basketbolero]

http://i57.tinypic.com/2pos1fr.jpg

[icewill36]

i dont think he said anything that bad here and hes probably pretty accurate.

[kurple]

i dont think he said anything that bad here and hes probably pretty accurate.
agreed

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Did people even read the article? His analysis was pretty spot-on.

[Collie]

90% of the people commenting here are bashing Karl without even having read the article. He's not trashing Melo, but gives an accurate assessment of Melo as a leader/player.

[tmacattack33]

I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. I don't really know anything about anyone's true practice habits...but that sounds like it could be true for Melo based off the fact that he is playing in a professional sports league and has the body fat of an average person working at a desk.

[Chrono90]

Is it a secret that Melo is not a leader?


He's a great offensive player and top three in offense in the league now. But not a great leader.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I wouldn't try to judge his capability to be a leader until he has decent teammates and a competent coach. There is not one player in the nba that woulda done much better with this team, too many holes.
Like he had in Denver?

[Milbuck]

Just like we shouldn't give a shit about what you say about George Karl.
Nice effort, but that means absolutely nothing.

[LeGOAT]

George Karl is unbelievably butt hurt. This clown needs to be taken off TV

[guy]

That's why Chicago might be his best landing spot. Hopefully Rose can be healthy, and with Thibodeau, Noah, and Rose, then Melo doesn't really have to do much leadership yet can still be the go-to scorer that the Bulls need and that I feel like he solely wants to be as opposed to the locker room leader that George Karl just described.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I don't see how Karl is butthurt. Obviously people keep asking him questions about Melo (since he used to be his coach) what is he supposed to do?

[houston]

George Karl = career loser
He should learn to shut the fu*k up. Constantly bitching about melo.
We all know he hates superstars and prefers 1st round exit deep teams:oldlol:


agree

[aboss4real24]

Melos Teammates: washed up Ai ,Washed Up Mare, Old Billups,Washed up Kmart
Anthony Carter,Felton

How df do u expect him to Lead that trash

[Basketbolero]

Melos Teammates: washed up Ai ,Washed Up Mare, Old Billups,Washed up Kmart
Anthony Carter,Felton

How df do u expect him to Lead that trash
Has any Melo team ever overachieved? Not hating but I can't think of any.

[aboss4real24]

Has any Melo team ever overachieved? Not hating but I can't think of any.


Yea the 09 nuggets

[Basketbolero]

Yea the 09 nuggets

True, back when they got Billups.

My point is that I don't see what Karl says as a knock on him. At this stage of his career it is clear that Melo is not a great leader, doesn't mean he is a bad influence, a loser or whatever, just that he needs someone else to take on that leader role. We saw it with Kobe/Fisher earlier in his career and I am sure with many other greats too.

[aboss4real24]

True, back when they got Billups.

My point is that I don't see what Karl says as a knock on him. At this stage of his career it is clear that Melo is not a great leader, doesn't mean he is a bad influence, a loser or whatever, just that he needs someone else to take on that leader role. We saw it with Kobe/Fisher earlier in his career and I am sure with many other greats too.

his point was he doesnt get on his teammates like mj kobe kg did
and like LBJ Is now doing

But Does that mean that Tim Duncan isnt a leader?

[Basketbolero]

his point was he doesnt get on his teammates like mj kobe kg did
and like LBJ Is now doing

But Does that mean that Tim Duncan isnt a leader?


Nah, from the bit you quoted:


“He had that championship mentality from Detroit that my team didn’t have,” Karl said. “It’s hard to define what that actually is, but I think it’s a combination of things: the leadership, the calming of a locker room, the peer pressure of making sure the right stuff is being talked about.”
Doesn't mean he needs to get on people's face. Those guys, TD included, were probably the first to the gym the very next morning after winning a big game and you would not see them bullsh

[Kiddlovesnets]

Karl is right, Anthony clearly is not the leader material and this is why Billups and Kidd were so vital to his past successes. Sure I agree such words coming out of Karl's mouth makes him sound like a hater and loser, but he does speak the truth. Just like when I say the Knicks suck this season, knicks fans aint gonna be happy about it, but even deep in their heart they know its the undeniable truth.

[imdaman99]

Another day, another quote by Karl killing Melo.

Stay transparent George Karl, you could barely coach out of the 1st round even when you had elite teams :facepalm

[Basketbolero]

Stay transparent George Karl, you could barely coach out of the 1st round even when you had elite teams :facepalm
I agree with this but still think he is right in this particular instance :confusedshrug:

[Smoke117]

I don't know why people are getting upset about what Karl said...he didn't say anything that wasn't true.

[jzek]

Has any Melo team ever overachieved? Not hating but I can't think of any.

His Syracuse team that won the NCAA title.