Who can be prime Shaq in 1v1 pickup?

[LosBulls]

http://youtu.be/LxZxKUQ0xaE

Name one person in the history of basketball that wouldn't get dominated by Shaq in a 1 on 1.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Wilt and Sabonis

[CavaliersFTW]

Wilt

[iamgine]

Shaq's downfall is his FT%. A player like Yao Ming can just simply foul him every single time while Shaq cannot do the same thing. Then they'd just exchange buckets. In that sense no center with a little skill will get dominated by Shaq. They might win or lose, but never dominated.

[MichaelCorleone]

Lebron James.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Earl Boykins

[dabigbaws]

Lebron James.

he can't even check nick young :lol :lol

[MichaelCorleone]

he can't even check nick young :lol :lol
Who said anything about Nick Young?:facepalm

We taking about Shaq here.

[ripthekik]

Lebron James.
Who's he going to pass to?

[r0drig0lac]

wilt, russell, sabonis, yao

[Real Men Wear Green]

No one can stop him but there are a ton of quick athletic guys he couldn't cover either. If possessions alternate and you have to win by 2 it's possible that he loses. And if the format makes guys shoot free throws there are guys I'd favor over him.

[Im Still Ballin]

Lebron James.
This.

[MichaelCorleone]

Shaq beats Lebron in:

Size
Postplay

Lebron beats Shaq in:

Speed
Handles
Shooting
Driving
Court vision
Freethrows

They are equal in:

Strength
Athleticism
Toughness


It's a VERY close battle between Lebron and Shaq 1v1.

[LosBulls]

No one can stop him but there are a ton of quick athletic guys he couldn't cover either. If possessions alternate and you have to win by 2 it's possible that he loses. And if the format makes guys shoot free throws there are guys I'd favor over him.
Alternate, no FTs. If you get fouled you get the ball back.

[LosBulls]

Shaq beats Lebron in:

Size
Postplay

Lebron beats Shaq in:

Speed
Handles
Shooting
Driving
Court vision
Freethrows

They are equal in:

Strength
Athleticism
Toughness


It's a VERY close battle between Lebron and Shaq 1v1.
Obvious troll is obvious.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Alternate, no FTs. If you get fouled you get the ball back.
If you have 3s he could easily lose to a guard. As it is there are several players with whom you can create a match-up where neither Shaq nor the opponent has any chance to stop the other guy on D.

[Random_Guy]

I say curry, or any fast guard that is consistent from 3. If show guarded curry out to the 3, curry can just blow past him.

[sundizz]

Lol at Wilt and all these other just ridiculous answers. Shaq was pwning Jordan with ease and some stiff dribbling clown like Wilt would beat a young hungry Shaqtus one on one? Lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NwgNLW9ASQ

[SilkkTheShocker]

Wilt

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NwgNLW9ASQ
That wasn't a serious effort by either guy.

[Prometheus]

If no free throws and no two point shots, then Wilt and Yao are the only human beings to have ever lived that might win.

[NumberSix]

Only Shaq can be Shaq.

[Milbuck]

Curry would beat him. Shaq would score any time he wanted to, as would Curry.
But Curry would get to smoke him from 3.

[navy]

Hakeem

[Rooster]

Lebron James.

Lebron will not be able to flop in the pick up game and Shaq will probably dare Lebron to shoot too.

[SsKSpurs21]

I will say Tim Duncan has a very good shot. He can hold his own against Shaq in the post and he has the outside jumper to keep Shaq honest on defense. Duncan's jab step is deceptively quick too.

I dont think he can beat Shaq consistently but Timmy can definitely win a best out of 5.

[FaceBack]

Shaq beats Lebron in:

Size
Postplay

Lebron beats Shaq in:

Speed
Handles
Shooting
Driving
Court vision
Freethrows

They are equal in:

Strength
Athleticism
Toughness


It's a VERY close battle between Lebron and Shaq 1v1.

Yeah I'd give the edge to LeBron 1v1 because of his court vision...

[r0drig0lac]

I will say Tim Duncan has a very good shot. He can hold his own against Shaq in the post and he has the outside jumper to keep Shaq honest on defense. Duncan's jab step is deceptively quick too.

I dont think he can beat Shaq consistently but Timmy can definitely win a best out of 5.this, timmy is definitely also in the group

[FKAri]

Yeah I'd give the edge to LeBron 1v1 because of his court vision...

lol bro. He'll be able to see angles and openings that others won't be able to. He'll be able to see if there's a puddle on the court or something that could make shaq slip.lmao

[SHAQisGOAT]

Bigs who would (somewhat) stand a chance would be (some more than others obviously):

> Wilt - matches Shaq in size and athleticism, and he has the skill despite what some may say; he can do it on both "sides"
> younger Kareem - really tall and long, very athletic, lots of skill, can post-up, faceup and drive, has the skyhook; his best asset to stop Shaq would be height and length but Shaq would bully him down low, it's most likely one of those cases where no man would stop the other
> Hakeem - Dream did great against an younger Shaq, they never went h2h at their peak though.. peak Shaq was even a better monster, so he would most likely take it most of the time, Hakeem would win some times though
> peak Bob McAdoo - he was somewhat of a liability against big centers, Shaq would completely abuse him but it was hell to try and stop Mac from scoring, he was long with lots of athleticism, could shoot lights out even in players' mugs, could drive and post-up too
> peak Barkley - strong as a bull and big, despite his height he could post-up taller players, really athletic and could handle the ball, would be hard to stop if his shot was falling; wouldn't be able to do a damn thing to stop Shaq though... similar stuff can be said for Karl Malone
> D-Rob - athletic freak, about the same height, great scorer, great defensive player, clearly better shooter, can't see him winning though and he would shy in big moments
> peak Tom Chambers - tall, big, very athletic and mobile, could put it on the floor and drive, had a good outside game, also post-up; similar to Barkley, could give problems to Shaq while with the ball but wouldn't do be able to do anything while guarding Diesel
> Dirk - he was not as athletic as a Charles Barkley or a Tom Chamers but one of the GOAT shooters, really tall and he can handle the ball, was not even close to being a stiff, especially while younger; of course he's another one that wouldn't stand a chance on defense

For the rest, it has to be a quick half-court player that can shoot, with a good first-step, and who's great at handling the ball, plus of course the shot has to be falling. I'm thinking of dudes like Jordan, Maravich, Curry, AI, Isiah, young Kobe, David Thompson, pre-injury CP3, and a few others.

And with all that said, I would still pick prime Shaq over anybody.

This is just for kicks though because basketball is 5on5. Still Shaq had a top5 peak, regardless.

[inclinerator]

i can be prime shaq

[inclinerator]

Yeah I'd give the edge to LeBron 1v1 because of his court vision...
he'd easily pass the ball to himself off the backboard

[Prometheus]

Bigs who would (somewhat) stand a chance would be (some more than others obviously):

> Wilt - matches Shaq in size and athleticism, and he has the skill despite what some may say; he can do it on both "sides"
> younger Kareem - really tall and long, very athletic, lots of skill, can post-up, faceup and drive, has the skyhook; his best asset to stop Shaq would be height and length but Shaq would bully him down low, it's most likely one of those cases where no man would stop the other
> Hakeem - Dream did great against an younger Shaq, they never went h2h at their peak though.. peak Shaq was even a better monster, so he would most likely take it most of the time, Hakeem would win some times though
> peak Bob McAdoo - he was somewhat of a liability against big centers, Shaq would completely abuse him but it was hell to try and stop Mac from scoring, he was long with lots of athleticism, could shoot lights out even in players' mugs, could drive and post-up too
> peak Barkley - strong as a bull and big, despite his height he could post-up taller players, really athletic and could handle the ball, would be hard to stop if his shot was falling; wouldn't be able to do a damn thing to stop Shaq though... similar stuff can be said for Karl Malone
> D-Rob - athletic freak, about the same height, great scorer, great defensive player, clearly better shooter, can't see him winning though and he would shy in big moments
> peak Tom Chambers - tall, big, very athletic and mobile, could put it on the floor and drive, had a good outside game, also post-up; similar to Barkley, could give problems to Shaq while with the ball but wouldn't do be able to do anything while guarding Diesel
> Dirk - he was not as athletic as a Charles Barkley or a Tom Chamers but one of the GOAT shooters, really tall and he can handle the ball, was not even close to being a stiff, especially while younger; of course he's another one that wouldn't stand a chance on defense

For the rest, it has to be a quick half-court player that can shoot, with a good first-step, and who's great at handling the ball, plus of course the shot has to be falling. I'm thinking of dudes like Jordan, Maravich, Curry, AI, Isiah, young Kobe, David Thompson, pre-injury CP3, and a few others.

And with all that said, I would still pick prime Shaq over anybody.

This is just for kicks though because basketball is 5on5. Still Shaq had a top5 peak, regardless.

Charles Barkley. One on one. Against Shaquille O'Neal. :facepalm

[oarabbus]

If no free throws and no two point shots, then Wilt and Yao are the only human beings to have ever lived that might win.


To have ever lived? I dunno about that.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8250/8537151723_885d0a9cbe_z.jpg

That pic is scaled appropriately. Let me just say at least before he developed leg problems, Mr. 8' 11" 440lbs could... give Shaq some problems. Bother him a little bit.


I'm sure there are hundreds, of people over the course of human history that could quite literally bully the fvck out of Shaq and Wilt.

But seriously, can you imagine that behemoth (if he was in even decent shape) playing basketball? :oldlol:

[imdaman99]

To have ever lived? I dunno about that.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8250/8537151723_885d0a9cbe_z.jpg

That pic is scaled appropriately. Let me just say at least before he developed leg problems, Mr. 8' 11" 440lbs could... give Shaq some problems. Bother him a little bit.


I'm sure there are hundreds, of people over the course of human history that could quite literally bully the fvck out of Shaq and Wilt.

But seriously, can you imagine that behemoth (if he was in even decent shape) playing basketball? :oldlol:
LOL you gotta be kidding me. Shaq would bowl him over. Just because someone is tall and meaty doesn't mean they can be nimble on their feet like Shaq was. Shaq was deceptively quick and his footwork was amazing. 8'11 guy is gonna be tripping on his own feet. Shaq would murder him 21-2 :oldlol:

[CavaliersFTW]

To have ever lived? I dunno about that.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8250/8537151723_885d0a9cbe_z.jpg

That pic is scaled appropriately. Let me just say at least before he developed leg problems, Mr. 8' 11" 440lbs could... give Shaq some problems. Bother him a little bit.


I'm sure there are hundreds, of people over the course of human history that could quite literally bully the fvck out of Shaq and Wilt.

But seriously, can you imagine that behemoth (if he was in even decent shape) playing basketball? :oldlol:
Coming from an amateur photographer and digital artist, those images are not to scale at all I'm afraid, the person who put those two images together seems to not have a tight handle on focal points and perspective. Wadlow was 8' 11" tall, Shaq was 7' 1" tall... A difference shy of two feet. That picture is scaled so badly it makes it look like Wadlow (the guy in the B/W pic) was 4+ feet taller than Shaq. That's what happens when people try to scale images that were taken with different cameras / focal lengths / distances. Plus, what the heck did they even use as a standard frame of reference? Something in both images should be identical size. The subjects should be standing on the same plane in relation to that identical scaled frame of reference. Most people who try to 'scale' stuff make egregious mistakes without realizing it, I see this hugely misleading stuff all the time in animal comparison scale charts, paleo illustrations, military vehicles and what have you.

[oarabbus]

LOL you gotta be kidding me. Shaq would bowl him over. Just because someone is tall and meaty doesn't mean they can be nimble on their feet like Shaq was. Shaq was deceptively quick and his footwork was amazing. 8'11 guy is gonna be tripping on his own feet. Shaq would murder him 21-2 :oldlol:


How would a strong, 330lb guy bowl over a 440lb guy? :biggums: You realize he could stand by the rim and block every shot without goaltending, he's got almost 2 feet on Shaq.

Would Bruce Lee "bowl over" KD? :biggums:


Cavs, you're probably right about the scaling. Wadlow still has ~2ft on Shaq and was able to move around well a few years before his death.

[CavaliersFTW]

How would a strong, 330lb guy bowl over a 440lb guy? :biggums: You realize he could stand by the rim and block every shot without goaltending, he's got almost 2 feet on Shaq.

Would Bruce Lee "bowl over" KD? :biggums:


Cavs, you're probably right about the scaling. Wadlow still has ~2ft on Shaq and was able to move around well a few years before his death.
IIRC there is footage of him shooting hoops, ever seen it? Wonder if it's on an archive site :lol

[sd3035]

I think the OP is forgetting that the defenders can poke the ball loose from Shaq, they don't have to bully him around or block his shot every time to be effective.

Shaq can't just park under the rim and wait for a pass in a game of one on one, he would have to dribble the ball in from behind the 3 point line.

I think there are a lot of players who would woop Shaq in one on one

[sd3035]

To have ever lived? I dunno about that.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8250/8537151723_885d0a9cbe_z.jpg

That pic is scaled appropriately. Let me just say at least before he developed leg problems, Mr. 8' 11" 440lbs could... give Shaq some problems. Bother him a little bit.


I'm sure there are hundreds, of people over the course of human history that could quite literally bully the fvck out of Shaq and Wilt.

But seriously, can you imagine that behemoth (if he was in even decent shape) playing basketball? :oldlol:



Are you people forgetting that the ball has to be dribbled into the paint, unless these centers have tremendous handles, or can hit jumpshots, they would get smoked by people like Lebron, MJ, Kobe, Durant, in a one on one game

[oarabbus]

IIRC there is footage of him shooting hoops, ever seen it? Wonder if it's on an archive site :lol


I have not. I had no idea that such footage even existed. Was he any good? lol. I'm sure he couldn't have been worse than some of the gigantic oafy guys that played during Shaq's time.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Charles Barkley. One on one. Against Shaquille O'Neal. :facepalm

So? What's the problem? Ever saw prime Barkley?

Plus, I never said he would win, most of the times he wouldn't and he wouldn't be able to do anything while guarding Shaq, but he would've stood a chance. Chuck was very athletic, really mobile and quick for a guy his size, strong like hell, pretty big, ability to handle the ball and go anywhere he wants, could post-up much taller players, and what gives him the chance here imo is his ability to hit some outside shots (adding to the rest), not a major threat or close but he could shoot and keep a streak, extremely tough cover if the shot's falling, he could be hell for Shaq (or anyone) on offense, in a 1on1 game.

Oh and btw Shaq's probably my favorite player, all-time, so call it how you want it.

[LeGOAT]

Lebron

[SHAQisGOAT]

Are you people forgetting that the ball has to be dribbled into the paint, unless these centers have tremendous handles, or can hit jumpshots, they would get smoked by people like Lebron, MJ, Kobe, Durant, in a one on one game

Well they could just back down from the 3pt line if there's no back to the basket rule or 24 seconds shot-clock. No need for tremendous handles or ability to hit jumpshots, just back down and if the opponent reaches, either drive or spin to the basket.

[oarabbus]

Are you people forgetting that the ball has to be dribbled into the paint, unless these centers have tremendous handles, or can hit jumpshots, they would get smoked by people like Lebron, MJ, Kobe, Durant, in a one on one game

Well in that case Hakeem beats Shaq in 1v1 pickup. Easily.

[sd3035]

Steph Curry would probably smoke Shaq one on one. He'd steal the ball half the time on D with big clumsy Shaq trying to dribble it into the paint, and he'd have a filed day on offense, getting off shots whenever he wanted

[CavaliersFTW]

I have not. I had no idea that such footage even existed. Was he any good? lol. I'm sure he couldn't have been worse than some of the gigantic oafy guys that played during Shaq's time.
he could hardly walk in most footage i've seen tbh, they just showed him near the hoop in either photograph or motion picture because he was so huge i can't remember where I've seen it but I've seen him next to a hoop before

[sd3035]

Well in that case Hakeem beats Shaq in 1v1 pickup. Easily.


He probably would

[CavaliersFTW]

http://www.thetallestman.com/images/robertwadlow/robertwadlow%20(18).jpg

[riseagainst]

lebron stans are so funny.

:roll:

[sd3035]

Well they could just back down from the 3pt line if there's no back to the basket rule or 24 seconds shot-clock. No need for tremendous handles or ability to hit jumpshots, just back down and if the opponent reaches, either drive or spin to the basket.

why not just eliminate traveling too so they can just tuck the ball like a football and run to the rim

[sd3035]

http://www.thetallestman.com/images/robertwadlow/robertwadlow%20(18).jpg


Nice pic of Wilt vs the competition during his 100 point game :applause:

[SHAQisGOAT]

Steph Curry would probably smoke Shaq one on one. He'd steal the ball half the time on D with big clumsy Shaq trying to dribble it into the paint, and he'd have a filed day on offense, getting off shots whenever he wanted

Stop it, man.

First of all, Shaq's clumsy? You seem like a knowledgeable guy :rolleyes:

Like I've said he could just back down Curry from anywhere til he gets close to the basket - if there's not shot clock or back to the basket rule. Shaq has the size, the length and the skill(this is pretty basic).. "Easy" for him to back down, keep the ball away and if the opponent tried to reach he'd drive or spin, even if the opponent was able to recover, he'd continue. That would even be tougher against an athletic dude of his size.

Looks like some of y'all never played basketball, or at least 1on1. :facepalm

[CavaliersFTW]

http://youtu.be/5CdpIDdLSRs?t=47s

[robert de niro]

jj barea

[SHAQisGOAT]

why not just eliminate traveling too so they can just tuck the ball like a football and run to the rim

:facepalm

We're talking about 1on1 basketball.

Why didn't you start by calling out the OP for "eliminating" 4 teammates and 4 opponents? :rolleyes:

[SHAQisGOAT]

http://www.thetallestman.com/images/robertwadlow/robertwadlow%20(18).jpg

Damn :lol

[sd3035]

:facepalm
We're talking about 1on1 basketball.

Why didn't you start by calling out the OP for "eliminating" 4 teammates and 4 opponents? :rolleyes:


Try to make some sense moron, we are talking about less teammates, not a new game

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[SHAQisGOAT]

Try to make some sense moron, we are talking about less teammates, not a new game

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Why even debate with 10 year old children? :rolleyes: Keep it up....

[sd3035]

Why even debate with 10 year old children? :rolleyes: Keep it up....
you're right, I shouldn't bother

Have a nice day kid :cheers:

[moe94]

Nice pic of Wilt vs the competition during his 100 point game :applause:
:lol

[inclinerator]

http://youtu.be/5CdpIDdLSRs?t=47s
lol that's what wilt basically did

[oarabbus]

http://www.thetallestman.com/images/robertwadlow/robertwadlow%20(18).jpg


:eek:

Woah good stuff. I believe there was someone else (a Globetrotter?) who could perform a dunk while standing, but it doesn't even look like Wadlow has to try.

Just imagine if he lived in modern times, I sincerely believe modern science would have at least allowed him to be reasonably mobile and somewhat healthy rather than relegated to ankle braces and foot circulation problems.


But seriously... Look at how large that man's bicep is. He was much, much bigger and likely stronger (absolute, not relative strength) than Shaq (or Wilt). I don't think there's an argument to be made on the contrary, and unlike some other giants his musculature and skeleton was said to be proportional.

[AboutBuckets]

Earl Boykins

:cheers: Check the Avy

[Solefade]

yao ming doe

[MichaelCorleone]

I have Lebron James, Goran Dragic, Kevin Durant and Michael Jordan beating Shaq in a 1v1.

[Le Shaqtus]

Lebron James.

Some Euroleague level dementia here.

[Rocketswin2013]

Yao Ming and Wilt Chamberlain are the only humans in the history of basketball who could legitimately stop him from backing down to the restricted area and make him miss a shot, get a defensive rebound and along with that be able to score on him.

No other humans in the history basketball could:
1. Even get close to matching his strength on the lowblock.

2. Contest his shot enough to make him miss.


3. Get a defensive rebound

4. And be able to score a basket on him

Other than Yao and Wilt. NOBODY else has a remote shot.

[MichaelCorleone]

Some Euroleague level dementia here.
Shaq beats Lebron in:

Size
Postplay

Lebron beats Shaq in:

Speed
Handles
Shooting
Driving
Court vision
Freethrows

They are equal in:

Strength
Athleticism
Toughness


It's a VERY close battle between Lebron and Shaq 1v1.

[AnaheimLakers24]

shaq clone

[Rocketswin2013]

Shaq beats Lebron in:

Size
Postplay

Lebron beats Shaq in:

Speed
Handles
Shooting
Driving
Court vision
Freethrows

They are equal in:

Strength
Athleticism
Toughness


It's a VERY close battle between Lebron and Shaq 1v1.

Are you stupid or just ignorant? Shaq is so much stronger than LeBron it's a joke. And Shaq is a much more deadly Halfcourt athlete than LeBron. One on one, Shaq would abuse LeBron and LeBron wouldn't even get a possession.



Speed
Handles
Shooting
Driving
Court vision
Freethrows

1. Speed can only do so much in the half-court setting that 1v1 is.

2. WTF does court vision have to do IN ONE ON ONE? Like I said, are you stupid or just ignorant?

3. Freethrows are not a factor in one on one. :facepalm

I'm done. Smh.

[DCL]

if the rules were no 3 sec in the key and winner's ball, very few would have a chance on beating shaq 1 on 1. he'd just back that ass in all day until he gets position to dunk. no 3 seconds to save you.

[MichaelCorleone]

Lebron just made my case.:cheers:

[alleykat]

Serious? probably no one....wilt?

[tpols]

Shaq beats Lebron in:

Size
Postplay

Lebron beats Shaq in:

Speed
Handles
Shooting
Driving
Court vision
Freethrows

They are equal in:

Strength
Athleticism
Toughness


It's a VERY close battle between Lebron and Shaq 1v1.

Considering Bran is afraid to go at the rim on Roy Hibbert, I doubt hed attack Shaq.. prolly convince him to play a friendly game of horse or something.