i've been a Matthew McCon fan......

[riseagainst]

for a very long time, even though I've generally hated all the movies he did in the past (romantic comedies) playing the same character over and over again. But these past 2 years. He has really proven himself and his super stardom has risen tremendously. I'm not talking about box office hits or raking in the cash because he's been able to do that with those romantic comedies. But now, he's not only keeping up with the hits, but with quality acting. I think in the past year he has proven himself as a top 3 actor currently active today, especially with such a talented pool of actors (Leo, Phoenix, Daniel Day Lewis, etc).

:bowdown:

[christian1923]

How to lose a guy in 10 days is his best work.

[mr.big35]

How to lose a guy in 10 days is his best work.
if it werent for that movie he would not be in true detective

[riseagainst]

if it werent for that movie he would not be in true detective

:roll:

[rufuspaul]

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/rufuspaul/dazedandconfused_zps59861434.jpg

[alenleomessi]

dazed and confused is still his best work

[step_back]

He's superb and worthy of the Oscar, however do people not realize he's fortunate to be playing characters with depth and has some of the best dialogue in Film/TV at his disposal.

[Myth]

I love MM, but he's got nothing on my boy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rq-7zEVuwI

[JohnFreeman]

I want a refund for my ticket to Sahara, shit that sucked

[riseagainst]

He's superb and worthy of the Oscar, however do people not realize he's fortunate to be playing characters with depth and has some of the best dialogue in Film/TV at his disposal.

so you are saying that he's the only Oscar winner to have ever played a character with depth and had the best dialogue?

:rolleyes:

[step_back]

so you are saying that he's the only Oscar winner to have ever played a character with depth and had the best dialogue?

:rolleyes:

Is that what I said?

.....No it's not is it.:coleman:

[ZenMaster]

He's superb and worthy of the Oscar, however do people not realize he's fortunate to be playing characters with depth and has some of the best dialogue in Film/TV at his disposal.

This make no sense unless you think it's random why he has characters with depth and some of the best dialogue in Film/TV at his disposal.

[step_back]

This make no sense unless you think it's random why he has characters with depth and some of the best dialogue in Film/TV at his disposal.

Why does it not make sense?

He was known as being the lead in romantic comedies. He's now fortunate that he's playing characters with depth and has some quality dialogue to speak thus being given a chance to show off his acting skills.


Do people actually think the quality of the writing has nothing to do with an actors performance?

[ZenMaster]

Why does it not make sense?

He was known as being the lead in romantic comedies. He's now fortunate that he's playing characters with depth and has some quality dialogue to speak thus being given a chance to show off his acting skills.


Do people actually think the quality of the writing has nothing to do with an actors performance?

Do you really think the quality of the actor has nothing to do with the quality or the of the scripts that come his way?

[step_back]

Do you really think the quality of the actor has nothing to do with the quality or the of the scripts that come his way?


If McConaughey didn't start starring in character driven roles with quality writing he'd still be known for doing Rom Coms. This is not in any way a knock on his acting. Seems like most people on here can't make that distinction.

You can have a great script ruined by a poor actor. You can't have a great acting performance if the script is a piece of shit.

How is this not being understood?

[ZenMaster]

If McConaughey didn't start starring in character driven roles with quality writing he'd still be known for doing Rom Coms. This is not in any way a knock on his acting. Seems like most people on here can't make that distinction.

You can have a great script ruined by a poor actor. You can't have a great acting performance if the script is a piece of shit.

How is this not being understood?

Oh it's understood. What you don't seem to understand is that most of the time people get better at what they do the longer they do it.

2014 McConaughey isn't the same as 2004 or 10 years before that for that matter. He's a better and more diversified actor, thus he gets better role.

Your assumption only holds true if you say 2004 McConaughey is the same as in 2014.

[step_back]

Oh it's understood. What you don't seem to understand is that most of the time people get better at what they do the longer they do it.

2014 McConaughey isn't the same as 2004 or 10 years before that for that matter. He's a better and more diversified actor, thus he gets better role.

Your assumption only holds true if you say 2004 McConaughey is the same as in 2014.

1. Do you really think I don't know that, in fact does anyone actually think like that?

2. I didn't say that though did I. I said he now has a platform to show off his acting ability because of the characters and quality of writing.

3. I didn't say McConaughey is the same as 04 as he is in 14. However he is doing better work.

I can't make this any more simple than I already am.

[ZenMaster]

1. Do you really think I don't know that, in fact does anyone actually think like that?

2. I didn't say that though did I. I said he now has a platform to show off his acting ability because of the characters and quality of writing.

3. I didn't say McConaughey is the same as 04 as he is in 14. However he is doing better work.

I can't make this any more simple than I already am.


He was known as being the lead in romantic comedies. He's now fortunate that he's playing characters with depth and has some quality dialogue to speak thus being given a chance to show off his acting skills.

You say "he's now fortunate" like it's something he was almost randomly choosen for. Then you say he now has a chance to show off his acting skills, that senctence along with your post only makes sense if you're assuming he's the same actor/person as he was earlier in his career before the good roles.

He's doing better work now with better scripts because he's a better actor than before, if he didn't become better the really good roles would not become available to him.

[step_back]

You say "he's now fortunate" like it's something he was almost randomly choosen for. Then you say he now has a chance to show off his acting skills, that senctence along with your post only makes sense if you're assuming he's the same actor/person as he was earlier in his career before the good roles.

He's doing better work now with better scripts because he's a better actor than before, if he didn't become better the really good roles would not become available to him.

1. No I say he's fortunate because it's fortunate. There are plenty of great actors who haven't consistently had the good fortune of having a great character and writing to sink their teeth into quite like McConaughey has recently. If I thought it was random, I'd have said random.

2. Yes of course he now has a chance to show of his acting skills because he's fortunate to be playing roles with character depth and quality writing. Which was the first ****ing point I made!

3. Again it starts with having a great character and quality writing. He's getting better roles which is why we now see him as a better actor. I didn't once say he was a bad actor. If I did you shouldn't have trouble quoting it.

[ZenMaster]

1. No I say he's fortunate because it's fortunate. There are plenty of great actors who haven't consistently had the good fortune of having a great character and writing to sink their teeth into quite like McConaughey has recently. If I thought it was random, I'd have said random.

2. Yes of course he now has a chance to show of his acting skills because he's fortunate to be playing roles with character depth and quality writing. Which was the first ****ing point I made!

3. Again it starts with having a great character and quality writing. He's getting better roles which is why we now see him as a better actor. I didn't once say he was a bad actor. If I did you shouldn't have trouble quoting it.

He's a better actor, which is why we now see him getting better roles.

[DonDadda59]

You can have a great script ruined by a poor actor.

This is true.


You can't have a great acting performance if the script is a piece of shit.



This is not necessarily true. Yes, it helps immensely to have great writing/direction but I've seen some examples of actors spinning shit into gold. For example- the star wars prequels. Just awful, campy writing, and the worst direction by the money-grubbing Lucas. Pretty much everyone looked like community college acting class rejects... with the exception of maybe Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine/Sidious in the 3rd. I thought he was fantastic for the most part, especially when juxtaposed with usually good actors who were terrible (Portman, Jackson, McGregor, etc).

It's possible to rise above the material.

[Patrick Chewing]

Ya'll need to watch Frailty and see the range Matt had back then


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HefFQdWaTDo/UwRH5kWCORI/AAAAAAAAQ6A/Gp9L4C7xTjw/s1600/Matthew+McConaughey.jpg

[step_back]

He's a better actor, which is why we now see him getting better roles.

And where do these better roles come from Zen?

Or was McConaughey doing these great roles before it was on paper :eek:

To Don:

Yes I agree I was painting my stroke a bit too broadly when I said that, however I was specifically talking about McConaughey's recent work (Trying to make people understand where I'm coming from) . They're great stories with excellent dialogue. Some how people are arguing with me because I've said that it's fortunate.

[ZenMaster]

And where do these better roles come from Zen?

Or was McConaughey doing these great roles before it was on paper :eek:

To Don:

Yes I agree I was painting my stroke a bit too broadly when I said that, however I was specifically talking about McConaughey's recent work. They're great stories with excellent dialogue. Some how people are arguing with me because I've said that it's fortunate.

We must be talking completely above each others head because that doesn't make sense to me, I could be saying that sentence to you given what I'm arguing.

I'm just arguing that the roles he gets now he wasn't offered back when he was doing romantic comedies because he wasn't that good of an actor. Like in other parts of life he got better at it and is now doing better. There where good roles in other movies as well as there is now, back when he was doing those rom choms

What you said sounded to me like: he was always an actor, but he's fortunate (lucky) that now he gets better roles.

[step_back]

We must be talking completely above each others head because that doesn't make sense to me, I could be saying that sentence to you given what I'm arguing.

I'm just arguing that the roles he gets now he wasn't offered back when he was doing romantic comedies because he wasn't that good of an actor. Like in other parts of life he got better at it and is now doing better. There where good roles in other movies as well as there is now, back when he was doing those rom choms

What you said sounded to me like: he was always an actor, but he's fortunate (lucky) that now he gets better roles.

I see where you're coming from. I honestly think when it comes to acting to an Oscar level performance the individual has to have natural talent which they then work on. Part of why I think he's doing great roles now is not because 10 years ago he wasn't a good actor he just wasn't given an opportunity to show case his talent because it didn't require it. That being said Actors will get to a certain age where the types of roles will be more rich in character because often than not the most interesting stories are the ones in which life experiences are involved and that needs time (Age) to happen.

This is why casting calls exist. Also I'm only trying to get people to understand and recognize that it's a fortunate thing to have great dialogue and characters to play. This really isn't a knock on his acting.

Do I think he has improved over time like you have said. Yeah sure I agree with you on that. But I don't see how what I said is wrong either?

P.S Yes I think we have our wires a bit crossed.