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Euroleague
03-04-2014, 12:45 AM
According to European media, the owner of the Memphis Grizzlies, Robert Pera, has proposed to the NBA that the NBA begin the NBA Euroleague division expansion plans immediately.

And that the plans for any possible expansion teams in Seattle and Las Vegas be scrapped in place of the expansion into Europe.........

Pera was quoted as saying,

“Look at the size of London and Paris, look at the opportunities, and in a few years, traveling across the pond will be a lot easier, due to technological progress."

It is also reported that some of the other of the league's owners are also pushing Silver to approve of the new NBA Euroleague division expansion now as well, due to the enormous amounts of revenues that it could generate for the league.


http://www.eurohoops.net/2014/03/dribbling/43640

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomvanriper/2014/03/02/one-month-into-his-new-job-nba-commissioner-adam-silver-shares-his-future-vision/

Smook A.
03-04-2014, 12:47 AM
Where's the link? DONT EVER MAKE A THREAD WITHOUT POSTING A LINK!

Good lord. You need to learn how to post news. You ALWAYS have to post a link for proof

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-04-2014, 12:49 AM
Why do you purposely leave out links when creating threads?

MichaelCorleone
03-04-2014, 12:49 AM
Land of opportunities.

iznogood
03-04-2014, 12:54 AM
[QUOTE=Euroleague]

russwest0
03-04-2014, 12:55 AM
inb4 every player that gets drafted to those teams bolts ASAP :lol

Derka
03-04-2014, 12:58 AM
I like how you didn't quote the parts of both articles that say European infrastructure is miles away from being able to host this kind of thing.

Europe is essentially too small for the NBA right now.

Euroleague
03-04-2014, 01:01 AM
I like how you didn't quote the parts of both articles that say European infrastructure is miles away from being able to host this kind of thing.

Europe is essentially too small for the NBA right now.

He's making that up. Stern always made that crap up too. It's good that the NBA owners are finally starting to call them out on it though. Europe has TONS OF NBA size and level arenas.

They are all over.

That's a complete bullshit lie and always has been from the NBA. The arenas are everywhere, and certainly are in the cities the NBA talks about, since now Paris rebuilt their basketball arena.

So that's just a flat out lie, and isn't true. The NBA owners have probably done their own research on it and are not buying it anymore. They probably got sick of hearing that excuse from Stern over the last few years.

It's simply BULLSHIT and it isn't true. There are tons of arenas all over Europe.

Like how he said, "almost ready"...........

like,


Paris, where they want a team, has the arena rebuilt by the summer.....

Moscow, if they wanted a team there, has the arena done by the summer.....

London, where they want a team, already has the arena.

Berlin, where they might want a team, already has the arena.

Munich, where they want a team, is building the arena.

Madrid, where they want a team, already has the arena, and already announced they are going to remodel and expand it again.

Barcelona, where they want a team, already has a big arena, which can be used in the interim (has been used for numerous NBA versus Euroleague games already) until the new arena they are building is finished.

That does not even get into all the great arenas in places like Kaunas, Ljubljana, Belgrade, Istanbul, Zagreb, Vitoria, Malaga (going to be rebuilt this summer), Prague, etc., or huge arenas in places like Athens that can easily be at NBA level with a little bit of remodeling.

You are totally full of shit.

If anything, the ONLY reason the arenas would not be ready yet is because of Paris being behind all the other places on that, and them having to wait until they finally got the arena there up to par just now.

The other places, and many others, had the arenas for a long time you idiot.

sd3035
03-04-2014, 01:07 AM
European cities are much nicer, but Euro players are below D League in quality.

Dr.J4ever
03-04-2014, 01:07 AM
[QUOTE=Euroleague]According to European media, the owner of the Memphis Grizzlies, Robert Pera, has proposed to the NBA that the NBA begin the NBA Euroleague division expansion plans immediately.

And that the plans for any possible expansion teams in Seattle and Las Vegas be scrapped in place of the expansion into Europe.........

Pera was quoted as saying,

Derka
03-04-2014, 01:08 AM
He's making that up. Stern always made that crap up too. It's good that the NBA owners are finally starting to call them out on it though. Europe has TONS OF NBA size and level arenas.

They are all over.

That's a complete bullshit lie and always has been from the NBA. The arenas are everywhere, and certainly are in the cities the NBA talks about, since now Paris rebuilt their basketball arena.

So that's just a flat out lie, and isn't true. The NBA owners have probably done their own research on it and are not buying it anymore. They probably got sick of hearing that excuse from Stern over the last few years.

It's simply BULLSHIT and it isn't true. There are tons of arenas all over Europe.

Oh. So the parts of this that don't mesh with the fantasy you have of Europe being a superior basketball culture...those parts are bullshit and made up.

This one owner who has owned a basketball team for less than two years...he's the guy who has it all figured out and is totally not talking out of his ass.

Gotcha.

For the record, I'm all for expanding to Europe if the market for the NBA is there for it...which I have no doubt it is. I can imagine when the Lakers, Heat, Bulls and Celtics roll through town...it'll cause quite the scene.

el gringos
03-04-2014, 01:18 AM
Only opposition will be a huge one. Owners of European clubs will not like officially becoming minor leagues.


Will be tough to keep teams competitive when you need to overpay so much to get free agents

Boarder Patrol
03-04-2014, 01:29 AM
[QUOTE=Euroleague]According to European media, the owner of the Memphis Grizzlies, Robert Pera, has proposed to the NBA that the NBA begin the NBA Euroleague division expansion plans immediately.

And that the plans for any possible expansion teams in Seattle and Las Vegas be scrapped in place of the expansion into Europe.........

Pera was quoted as saying,

Euroleague
03-04-2014, 01:42 AM
Only opposition will be a huge one. Owners of European clubs will not like officially becoming minor leagues.


Will be tough to keep teams competitive when you need to overpay so much to get free agents

The teams they are talking about are much richer than any NBA team.

gts
03-04-2014, 01:52 AM
[I]As for Europe, Silver noted that some newer owners, particularly Robert Pera in Memphis, are anxious to get there, even prioritizing it over vacant NBA cities in the U.S. like Seattle and Las Vegas. Silver sees it working if the league can build enough franchises to have a division there (meaning one trip per year for each U.S.-based team). [B]But he cautions:

Derka
03-04-2014, 02:21 AM
You are an ignorant POS.

And you make up stuff for the sake of getting internet people to attack you :roll:

Dr.J4ever
03-04-2014, 03:07 AM
Yes, it is idiot. As I said, Paris' arena is ready this summer, and Munich, where they want a team, is building a new arena, which will be done by the time the expansion was ready.

So yes, the arenas are ALL in place.

It's an outright LIE for them to claim otherwise.

And actually, as we note, it's funny, because at the all star break Silver said the arenas were all in place in Europe and that was no longer a problem................

now after all the speculation about this he is suddenly back tracking and on the usual BS Stern used of "there are no arenas in Europe".........

Stern's usual LIE that he always used as an excuse whenever this came up as a way to deflect the topic of a timeline on the issue.

So yeah, we know that is bullshit, because he even said the arenas were in place at the all star break.

MY FREAKING GOD.

You NBA only fans are so pathetic. You just lap up whatever NBA marketing tells you. It's just unbelievably sad and pathetic.

The NBA is not "gobbling up the Euroleague" idiot. As Bertomeu the head of Euroleague said, this is a joint partnership. You ****ing clowns just made it up that this is a takeover.

But when it was posted here directly from Euroleague itself that it was not, you had real mean wear green delete the thread.

Euroleague is a club controlled system you ****ing IDIOT. The clubs control the league. The clubs would be moving, along with the Euroleague private company corporation into a new division, called NBA Euroleague.

It would not be in any way the NBA taking over Euroleague. You are absolutely insane.

Barca and Real alone are worth almost as much as the entire NBA is.

Then you add in freaking PSG, Arsenal, and Bayern? It's clubs that have a worth several times higher than the total of the NBA you freaking moron.

The NBA does not have the money to buy even one of these clubs, let alone all of them. How ****ing INSANE ARE YOU?

That's why these younger owners of the NBA want this so bad, because it's incredible amounts of money for the NBA. Because these clubs are far far far richer than any NBA club and it will generate enormous amounts of revenue for the NBA.

But you clown NBA only fans are so damn ignorant that you can't even grasp that. You actually think the Knicks or Lakers are bigger clubs......

AND

You actually think clubs like Blazers, Jazz, Bucks, Kings, Cavs, Pacers, Suns, etc. are bigger clubs.

Just shows how unbelievably insane the average poster in this forum is.
1. I don't think the arenas are in place otherwise more NBA owners might be clamoring for the expansion.
2. The market readiness for daily basketball in Europe is still questionable but maybe doable with the right marketing.
3. When you talk about Real or Madrid being bigger clubs than NBA teams, you are way off and mixing up their football clubs in the picture. We are talking just basketball.
4. I am a businessman myself, and no way would I want to partner with an inferior company, and call the new company's first name using the name of the inferior company, i.e . NBA Euroleague. If the Euroleague is so superior, why would it want to be part of a new league with the NBA as top dog, at least in name?
5. This is related to #4, but if these clubs are "far, far richer than NBA clubs", why would they even want to merge with the NBA? Why not just go head to head in America and put up an alternative league, and call it EL NBA division? Get it? If they are so rich, why not just get the best players...Lebron, Durant, and pay them big salaries and have their cake and eat it too? Why are they so eager to be yes, gobbled up, by the big, bad, NBA? Huh?
6. Why are you EL Nazi so eager for the NBA to go to Europe? If your so satisfied with your superior basketball, why do you want to join with the NBA?
7. If you think the average ISH poster is "insane", why are you always here in the "inferior" NBA forum trying to get the NBA in an NBA EL Division? Huh?

Kiddlovesnets
03-04-2014, 03:20 AM
Nobody wants to play in Europe unless they come from Europe themselves.
:no:

I<3NBA
03-04-2014, 04:22 AM
Nobody wants to play in Europe unless they come from Europe themselves.
:no:
Kobe did.

fiddy
03-04-2014, 04:47 AM
European cities are much nicer, but Euro players are below D League in quality.
Agreed. But its more of a marketing trick than anything else, its all about fans in Europe, id love to attend a game with an NBA team in it

BoutPractice
03-04-2014, 05:13 AM
I still think this can eventually work. No one could have predicted the game's global success 50 years ago. If they play their cards right they can make something happen.

As for the idea that no American players want to play in Europe... well, to start with, many already do... A lot of NBA players even played in China, looked really happy there... London or Barcelona are simply better cities to live in than Cleveland and Milwaukee... Many more people in Europe speak English than you'd think, especially in the large cities... And a young star who makes it in one of the big Europe-based team would be the easiest sell you can think of, an instant global superstar. NBA players would be worshipped in the continent - of course basketball is nowhere near soccer but the NBA's Hollywood-like "mystique" is huge in Europe. MJ, the Bulls, the Dream Team... if you take the NBA there the market will respond. It's a leap of faith but the risk is worth taking.

Trentknicks
03-04-2014, 05:23 AM
You are an ignorant POS.
Op is a collins.

ralph_i_el
03-04-2014, 10:29 AM
He's making that up. Stern always made that crap up too. It's good that the NBA owners are finally starting to call them out on it though. Europe has TONS OF NBA size and level arenas.

They are all over.

That's a complete bullshit lie and always has been from the NBA. The arenas are everywhere, and certainly are in the cities the NBA talks about, since now Paris rebuilt their basketball arena.

So that's just a flat out lie, and isn't true. The NBA owners have probably done their own research on it and are not buying it anymore. They probably got sick of hearing that excuse from Stern over the last few years.

It's simply BULLSHIT and it isn't true. There are tons of arenas all over Europe.

Like how he said, "almost ready"...........

like,


Paris, where they want a team, has the arena rebuilt by the summer.....

Moscow, if they wanted a team there, has the arena done by the summer.....

London, where they want a team, already has the arena.

Berlin, where they might want a team, already has the arena.

Munich, where they want a team, is building the arena.

Madrid, where they want a team, already has the arena, and already announced they are going to remodel and expand it again.

Barcelona, where they want a team, already has a big arena, which can be used in the interim (has been used for numerous NBA versus Euroleague games already) until the new arena they are building is finished.

That does not even get into all the great arenas in places like Kaunas, Ljubljana, Belgrade, Istanbul, Zagreb, Vitoria, Malaga (going to be rebuilt this summer), Prague, etc., or huge arenas in places like Athens that can easily be at NBA level with a little bit of remodeling.

You are totally full of shit.

If anything, the ONLY reason the arenas would not be ready yet is because of Paris being behind all the other places on that, and them having to wait until they finally got the arena there up to par just now.

The other places, and many others, had the arenas for a long time you idiot.

You're really mean bud. Have you ever considered that maybe this could hurt someones feelings?

Jailblazers7
03-04-2014, 10:36 AM
I'm not sure how they would get the logistics of it to work but it would be interesting to see. I doubt it ever happens as a full member of the NBA tho because there are already 30 teams (which might be too many) and US cities aren't giving up their teams.

Euroleague
03-04-2014, 05:27 PM
Op is a collins.

reported.

LeGOAT
03-04-2014, 05:28 PM
reported.
reported

Kiddlovesnets
03-04-2014, 05:33 PM
reported.

Do you even think the admin/mods here actually read your reported posts? They'd delete them like it never existed lol.
:roll:

Jailblazers7
03-04-2014, 05:35 PM
League expansion would hurt the product. I think they would have to convince 5-6 owners to move teams to Europe because the league can't handle being 34-36 teams.

KobesFinger
03-04-2014, 07:22 PM
Ah, the NBA knows if it expands that European fans will stop watching EL and start watching the NBA.

I mean, who would choose to watch Valshdfn Spanaojsfknlsdj.kfu when they could see LeBron or Durant? Like Biggie and Pac compared to Soulja Boi

KobesFinger
03-04-2014, 07:25 PM
The expansion will be with teams that are currently in the Euroleague.

You are not very bright.

My bad. V-span will be kicked out then I presume? We know he aint good enough for an NBA team

Dr.J4ever
03-04-2014, 11:08 PM
The arenas are there and the NBA owners are demanding the expansion.

The clubs in Europe are bigger and richer than the NBA clubs are. Every single one of these clubs is the same exact club idiot. The football club and the basketball club is the same IDIOT. They are all owned by the same owners IDIOT.

You just post the same NBA only fans bullshit, blah blah blah blah blah nonsense over and over and over and over again and again and again.
:lol As expected, you completely ignored my valid points. Here's another point-- at no point did either article mention that the NBA would be willing to merge with the EL, and call it the NBA EL division.

I have never heard Silver mention anything like that. It may turn out or happen that way, or not. Right now, it's complete speculation.

If the NBA figures that the EL is not a good way to launch itself in Europe, they may go it alone. They will probably have to sign many Euro players to make the product marketable, and mix in some of the NBA's proven star players, and that could be good enough to make it work.

No need for the EL to be merged. Do you have a link the the NBA is considering the EL to merge with?

gabepizza
03-05-2014, 12:10 AM
The Euroleague is loaded with players that are better than most NBA players. NBA only fans are completely delusional.


Like Sergio Rodriguez.
:roll: :roll: :oldlol: :lol :D

miles berg
03-05-2014, 01:52 AM
Could you imagine getting traded to one of those teams. It would completely suck.

Players association will never go for this.

miles berg
03-05-2014, 01:53 AM
The Euroleague is loaded with players that are better than most NBA players. NBA only fans are completely delusional.

Without a doubt he dumbest thing I've ever read here. American scrubs and NBA cast offs become Euro stars.

It isn't even close to comparable. Very few of the guys that have come over from their pro leagues have succeeded. The NBA is just far too talented.

Kiddlovesnets
03-05-2014, 01:54 AM
The Euroleague is loaded with players that are better than most NBA players. NBA only fans are completely delusional.

lol you must be kidding me. Top Euroleague teams are loaded with players that are mostly NBDL level, good Euroleague teams are loaded with players at NCAA Div I level, while an average Euroleague teams are loaded with players that get pwned by Div II NCAA college students.
:oldlol:

Rooster
03-05-2014, 03:03 AM
The Euroleague is loaded with players that are better than most NBA players. NBA only fans are completely delusional.

Euroleague MVP

Anthony Parker 2x

Joseph Blair

Nate Huffman



Euroleague Final Four MVP

Bob Mc Adoo

Nique

Ariel Mc Donald

David Rivers

Tyus Edney

Trajan Langdon

Anthony Parker


Euroleague 35 Greatest players


Walter Szczerbiak (1967-1984)

Bob Morse (1968-1986)

Bob McAdoo (1969-1993)

Mike D'Antoni (1969-1990)

Anthony Parker (1993-2012)

Clifford Luyk (1958-1978)

Wayne Brabender (1965-1985)

Nikos Galis (1975-1995)


Beside the corpses of Mc Adoo and Nique, it looks like our scrubs dominated the minor league too.:oldlol: :roll:

There are more AMERICANS named MVPs, All Euroleague team and Euroleague greatest players more than any nation in Europe:oldlol:

Rooster
03-05-2014, 03:10 AM
Could you imagine getting traded to one of those teams. It would completely suck.

Players association will never go for this.

Euroleague should just concentrate on what do best

They are like a farm system Double A affiliate so to speak

Prepare players to the next level

And recycle veteran rejects and scrubs

I think that's what Silver need them to be

bdreason
03-05-2014, 03:33 AM
I don't see it. Way too many variables involved. First off, You need all new owners and arenas. Then you need to find European players to fill all the rosters, because American players are not going to willingly play in places like Russia.

Europe already has it's own leagues and Champions league (Euroleague). I don't really see how an NBA Europe league would be any different. In fact, it would probably be worse than the already established leagues unless the NBA somehow convinced some of the established clubs to leave their leagues and join NBA Europe.

ZenMaster
03-05-2014, 09:39 AM
Without a doubt he dumbest thing I've ever read here. American scrubs and NBA cast offs become Euro stars.

It isn't even close to comparable. Very few of the guys that have come over from their pro leagues have succeeded. The NBA is just far too talented.

There's a decent ammount of players in the Euroleague better than a bunch of NBA players. Think Luis Scola before he came over to Houston at 28 or so, his last years in Europe he was FAR better than the worst NBA players just like he was when he got to Houston.

Euroleague
03-05-2014, 10:44 AM
Without a doubt he dumbest thing I've ever read here. American scrubs and NBA cast offs become Euro stars.

It isn't even close to comparable. Very few of the guys that have come over from their pro leagues have succeeded. The NBA is just far too talented.

That's false and untrue. It's just another fake myth that NBA only fans created along with fake hype NBA gimmick marketing.

It's not true. But you freaking clowns are to insane and stupid to grasp it.

eliteballer
03-05-2014, 10:46 AM
OP forgot to mention Silver said it's still some ways away given the lack of infrastructure.

Euroleague
03-05-2014, 10:46 AM
Euroleague MVP

Anthony Parker 2x

Joseph Blair

Nate Huffman



Euroleague Final Four MVP

Bob Mc Adoo

Nique

Ariel Mc Donald

David Rivers

Tyus Edney

Trajan Langdon

Anthony Parker


Euroleague 35 Greatest players


Walter Szczerbiak (1967-1984)

Bob Morse (1968-1986)

Bob McAdoo (1969-1993)

Mike D'Antoni (1969-1990)

Anthony Parker (1993-2012)

Clifford Luyk (1958-1978)

Wayne Brabender (1965-1985)

Nikos Galis (1975-1995)


Beside the corpses of Mc Adoo and Nique, it looks like our scrubs dominated the minor league too.:oldlol: :roll:

There are more AMERICANS named MVPs, All Euroleague team and Euroleague greatest players more than any nation in Europe:oldlol:

Players in bold are FALSE. More of your BULLSHIT lies, as always.

You are also listing players from 25 to 40 years ago........

I guess we should claim NBA level is the same now also.

And there are NOT more Americans named in best European teams you moron. Those selections actually go back to the 60s you freaking idiot.

Rooster
03-05-2014, 10:53 AM
There's a decent ammount of players in the Euroleague better than a bunch of NBA players. Think Luis Scola before he came over to Houston at 28 or so, his last years in Europe he was FAR better than the worst NBA players just like he was when he got to Houston.

What's your point.:rolleyes: There are few high school players and decent amount of college players that are better than some NBA players. But there is a big difference of knowing it and showing it. Case in point we know that Spanoulis was a grown man on top of his career and one of Euroleague best players like Scola , he must be a decent NBA player. But he showed 3 ppt, 30% shooting and 3 turnovers a game so he got rejected back to minor league.:oldlol:

eliteballer
03-05-2014, 10:57 AM
OP forgot to mention Silver said it's still some ways away given the lack of infrastructure.

Answer for yourself:coleman:

Rooster
03-05-2014, 10:58 AM
Players in bold are FALSE. More of your BULLSHIT lies, as always.

You are also listing players from 25 to 40 years ago........

I guess we should claim NBA level is the same now also.

And there are NOT more Americans named in best European teams you moron. Those selections actually go back to the 60s you freaking idiot.

Euroleague listed 35 greatest players and 8 of them are Americans. :facepalm

Scrubs and rejects collectively.

That's more than any nation in Europe BTW.:oldlol:

They were in the minor league

Because NBA did not bother:oldlol:

Euroleague
03-05-2014, 11:02 AM
Like Sergio Rodriguez.
:roll: :roll: :oldlol: :lol :D

Pablo Prigioni...........cut from 2 Euroleague teams....could not even get a contract in the Euroleague anymore..........

starting on your favorite NBA team at age 36.

Jailblazers7
03-05-2014, 11:09 AM
The Euroleague is loaded with players that are better than most NBA players. NBA only fans are completely delusional.

So current Euroleague teams would just wholesale join the NBA? I don't know how that would work because the economics of the two leagues are different. Would Euro squads be allowed to continue to advertise on their jerseys? That is a significant source of revenue that might need to be cut out to comply with NBA rules.

Is there an expansion draft? I think it would be interesting to see how quickly Euro talent is brought into the NBA once teams are over there but I think a transition to get Euroleague teams into the league is pretty ****ing complicated.

Dr.J4ever
03-05-2014, 11:12 AM
Pablo Prigioni...........cut from 2 Euroleague teams....could not even get a contract in the Euroleague anymore..........

starting on your favorite NBA team at age 36.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Prigioni

Prigioni signed a 1 year deal with Caja Laboral in 2011, and then moved to the Knicks in 2012. He wasn't cut. This is the 2nd time I've corrected you on this, but I'm sure it won't be the last.

Reported.

Rooster
03-05-2014, 11:12 AM
Without a doubt he dumbest thing I've ever read here. American scrubs and NBA cast offs become Euro stars.

It isn't even close to comparable. Very few of the guys that have come over from their pro leagues have succeeded. The NBA is just far too talented.

:applause: :applause:

Only Dirk can be consider a top 50 player of all time.

Look at players from Greece

Efthimios Rentzias
Antonis Fotsis
Andreas Glyniadakis
Vassilis Spanoulis :oldlol:

They could not passed the quality control of NBA.:oldlol:

Doctor Jay
03-05-2014, 11:15 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Prigioni

Prigioni signed a 1 year deal with Caja Laboral in 2011, and then moved to the Knicks in 2012. He wasn't cut. This is the 2nd time I've corrected you on this, but I'm sure it won't be the last.

Reported.

:oldlol:

eliteballer
03-05-2014, 11:17 AM
There is no lack of infrastructure you ****ing dumb ass.

I'll believe the commissioner of the NBA over you. You also forgot to mention Euro teams are cutting budgets left and right because of Europe's economic issues.

Dr.J4ever
03-05-2014, 11:18 AM
So current Euroleague teams would just wholesale join the NBA? I don't know how that would work because the economics of the two leagues are different. Would Euro squads be allowed to continue to advertise on their jerseys? That is a significant source of revenue that might need to be cut out to comply with NBA rules.

Is there an expansion draft? I think it would be interesting to see how quickly Euro talent is brought into the NBA once teams are over there but I think a transition to get Euroleague teams into the league is pretty ****ing complicated.
Not only that, there is no indication in the links provided by the OP that the NBA is even considering a merger in Europe with the EL. None.

Check the links.

eliteballer
03-05-2014, 11:20 AM
I'll believe the commissioner of the NBA over you. You also forgot to mention Euro teams are cutting budgets left and right because of Europe's economic issues.

Aren't they?:roll:

Jailblazers7
03-05-2014, 11:25 AM
Not only that, there is no indication in the links provided by the OP that the NBA is even considering a merger in Europe with the EL. None.

Check the links.

Oh, didn't actually fact check anything. I think merging an existing team would be too difficult because of the leagues are just different products.

Dr.J4ever
03-05-2014, 11:28 AM
Actually, you can now put a fork in this thread.
Over./

gabepizza
03-05-2014, 12:02 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Prigioni

Prigioni signed a 1 year deal with Caja Laboral in 2011, and then moved to the Knicks in 2012. He wasn't cut. This is the 2nd time I've corrected you on this, but I'm sure it won't be the last.

Reported.

Exactly. He was never cut by any team and he would have gotten many offers by Euroleague teams but decided to pursue his life long dream of playing in the NBA.

That's as absurd as claiming that Spanoulis was cut by his Euroleague team and could not get any Euroleague contracts so that is why he come over to the NBA in 2006.

The big difference is Pablo could actually play with the big boys not like the unathletic scrub Spanoulis.

Bones_Jones
03-05-2014, 12:39 PM
Why do you guys bother responding to him? He loves the attention. Imagine you ISH ignored him, he'd probably commit suicide. Trolling ISH is his life's work.

KG215
03-05-2014, 12:46 PM
The average NBA team has about 6-9 players that cannot make the rotation of an average Euroleague team.

So WTF is your point?
You continually find ways to top yourself with stupidity. And given the levels of dumbassery you've already reached, it's really quite impressive.

ralph_i_el
03-05-2014, 02:26 PM
Ever consider that these a-holes posting the same LIES and BULLSHIT over and over and over and over and over is insulting?

They only do it because you do it first

comerb
03-05-2014, 02:29 PM
The average NBA team has about 6-9 players that cannot make the rotation of an average Euroleague team.

So WTF is your point?

If you going to post ridiculous shit atleast be witty about it or something

Jailblazers7
03-05-2014, 02:31 PM
Also, how would the TV deal be impacted by games played in Euro time zones? You would pick up money from Euro TV deals obviously but it would unlikely that USA fans would watch those games live or on tape delay.

Euroleague
03-05-2014, 08:17 PM
So current Euroleague teams would just wholesale join the NBA? I don't know how that would work because the economics of the two leagues are different. Would Euro squads be allowed to continue to advertise on their jerseys? That is a significant source of revenue that might need to be cut out to comply with NBA rules.

Is there an expansion draft? I think it would be interesting to see how quickly Euro talent is brought into the NBA once teams are over there but I think a transition to get Euroleague teams into the league is pretty ****ing complicated.

The NBA has already said numerous times that ads on jerseys will be allowed in a few years. Do the math.

Euroleague
03-05-2014, 08:19 PM
Not only that, there is no indication in the links provided by the OP that the NBA is even considering a merger in Europe with the EL. None.

Check the links.

There is no indication in any of your posts that you are not totally cuckoo for coco puffs.

Bandito
03-05-2014, 08:20 PM
Man last time I heard there Arroyo was in 2nd place in the MVP running. Don't know who the first is but when I look at nationalities I didn't see no greeks. I wonder if the greeks suck or something at basketball. I mean NIgeria sucks and they beat the m at the Olympics.

Jailblazers7
03-05-2014, 08:22 PM
The NBA has already said numerous times that ads on jerseys will be allowed in a few years. Do the math.

Link for that? I'd be really surprised if they allowed that.

Nvm - just Google and saw it. That makes things interesting.

Euroleague
03-05-2014, 08:23 PM
You continually find ways to top yourself with stupidity. And given the levels of dumbassery you've already reached, it's really quite impressive.

The clown that guaranteed Bricky Scrubio would be a great NBA player and claimed he was one of the greatest players in the history of Europe has arrived to the thread.............

Wow, NBA only fan desperation has reached critical levels now.........

Euroleague
03-05-2014, 08:24 PM
They only do it because you do it first

LIES

Euroleague
03-05-2014, 08:29 PM
Also, how would the TV deal be impacted by games played in Euro time zones? You would pick up money from Euro TV deals obviously but it would unlikely that USA fans would watch those games live or on tape delay.

No one in Europe watches NBA now. NBA only fans believe in this magical made up fairly tale that everyone in Europe watches the NBA............it's complete bullshit.

No one watches it. No one gives a damn. The Euroleague on the other hand actually gets very good ratings.

The idea is that this would be bringing in very big revenues that simply don't exist now, and also with the sponsors, would be bringing in more revenues for the European clubs that they are not getting right now.

That's the reason you do it.

The idea of not using the existing big clubs in Europe, like brain dead American NBA only fans keep saying, is sooooooooooooooo comical words cannot even describe it.

These clubs have colossal fan bases. GIGANTIC fan bases.

Americans are so freaking arrogant and ignorant that it's truly shocking.

The NBA stands to make billions from this, and the big clubs in Europe will get bigger sponsor deals, so that's why they want to do this.

But this idea that the NBA can just make new clubs and ignore the Euroleague clubs like NBA only fans here are saying is so laughable it's just beyond silly.

NBA expansion team league would not last one season against Euroleague before it bankrupted severely.

Euroleague
03-05-2014, 08:31 PM
Man last time I heard there Arroyo was in 2nd place in the MVP running. Don't know who the first is but when I look at nationalities I didn't see no greeks. I wonder if the greeks suck or something at basketball. I mean NIgeria sucks and they beat the m at the Olympics.

You are not Puerto Rican.

MightyWhitey
03-05-2014, 08:34 PM
The league needs to decrease in size imo. Too many small teams like the Bucks, T-Wolves, Kings out there that shouldn't be out there.

dr.hee
03-05-2014, 08:57 PM
No one watches it. No one gives a damn. The Euroleague on the other hand actually gets very good ratings.

Not everywhere though. Here in Germany, the Euroleague debut of Bayern was watched by 120,000 people on TV. That's nothing. You can get something like 2 million people with Final Four games in a country like Spain or Greece if there's a team from there involved, but let's not get carried away. Euroleague in Germany? Most don't give a shit. But at least they're actually broadcasting games in free TV here. We don't get any NBA games, they didn't even show Dirk in the finals back in 2011 because the NBA was bitching about rights :facepalm

kentatm
03-05-2014, 09:17 PM
We don't get any NBA games, they didn't even show Dirk in the finals back in 2011 because the NBA was bitching about rights :facepalm


:biggums: :coleman:

There was plenty of video showing watch parties in Germany during those Finals.

dr.hee
03-05-2014, 09:18 PM
:biggums: :coleman:

There was plenty of video showing watch parties in Germany during those Finals.

I was talking about free TV. The watch parties were either pay TV or internet streams/league pass. But in regular TV, there was nothing. Stations tried to get the rights, but the NBA refused.

bdreason
03-05-2014, 10:14 PM
Why would European club teams be so eager to join the NBA, when according to you, nobody in Europe watches or cares about the NBA?

Dr.J4ever
03-05-2014, 10:44 PM
No one in Europe watches NBA now. NBA only fans believe in this magical made up fairly tale that everyone in Europe watches the NBA............it's complete bullshit.

No one watches it. No one gives a damn. The Euroleague on the other hand actually gets very good ratings.

The idea is that this would be bringing in very big revenues that simply don't exist now, and also with the sponsors, would be bringing in more revenues for the European clubs that they are not getting right now.

That's the reason you do it.

The idea of not using the existing big clubs in Europe, like brain dead American NBA only fans keep saying, is sooooooooooooooo comical words cannot even describe it.

These clubs have colossal fan bases. GIGANTIC fan bases.

Americans are so freaking arrogant and ignorant that it's truly shocking.

The NBA stands to make billions from this, and the big clubs in Europe will get bigger sponsor deals, so that's why they want to do this.

But this idea that the NBA can just make new clubs and ignore the Euroleague clubs like NBA only fans here are saying is so laughable it's just beyond silly.

NBA expansion team league would not last one season against Euroleague before it bankrupted severely.
You still haven't answered the questions I posed.....if the EL is doing so well with their "gigantic" fan bases:lol , then why would they want to share their income with the NBA? If the NBA is so unpopular in Europe, why would the EL want to be identified with such an unpopular product? Won't that ruin the EL?