Why is the USA supporting Ukrainian Nazis?

[Nick Young]

Svoboda, the 'democracy loving peaceful protesters' in Ukraine that American government and media are hyping up are a far-right group of xenophobic and racist Neo-Nazis.

Putin is doing his best to make sure that these racist neo-nazis don't come in to power.

He also prematurely ended a war in Syria before it happened. America and Britain were desperate to send troops to Syria and take it over but Putin ended it peacefully.


Putin has been nominated for a Nobel Prize for Peace and deservedly so. He stopped a war in Syria and now is doing his best to peacefully ensure that a party of American funded Neo-Nazis don't take over Ukraine and send it in to hell. I am glad that brave leaders like Putin exist, who fight to end evil wars and ensure that evil Neo-Nazis dont come in to power.





The Ukraine’s far-right ultra-nationalist political party, Svoboda All-Ukrainian Union, recently received global media attention after one of its officials called Ukrainian-born American film actress Mila Kunis a “dirty Jewess,” sparking outrage in Western Europe, Israel and the U.S.



Ihor Miroshnychenko, the deputy chief of Svoboda, wrote on his Facebook account: “[Kunis] is not Ukrainian, she is a Yid. She is proud of it, so [the] Star of David be with her.”

However, this was only the latest inflammatory incident involving the extreme right-wing party which espouses a virulently xenophobic, anti-Semitic, anti-gay, and anti-Russian agenda.


Another top Svoboda member, Yuriy Mykhalchyshyn, a deputy in parliament, often quotes former German Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels, as well as other Third Reich luminaries like Ernst Roehm and Gregor Strasser.

Tyahnybok has repeatedly sought inspiration from Ukrainian insurgents who fought in World War II.

“They did not fear, but took up their automatic rifles, going into the woods to fight Muscovites, Germans, Jewry and other filth which wanted to take away our Ukrainian nationhood. It’s time to give Ukraine to the Ukrainians. Like them, you are most feared by the Moscow-Jewish mafia which today runs Ukraine,” he said.


http://www.ibtimes.com/svoboda-rising-spectre-neo-nazism-ukraine-974110

[East_Stone_Ya]

you fail at trolling

[Nick Young]

Its not trolling. It's true. The team that the USA is supporting to take control of Ukraine are neo-nazis who quote Goebbels.

Why is America supporting the side of racist nazis and why are the American media not reporting the fact that a majority of the 'peaceful protesters' belong to Ukraine's racist nazi party?

IMO It's a good thing Putin stopped USA from going in to Syria and its a good thing now that he's sent in troops to make sure a racist Nazi party doesn't take control of Ukraine.

[DonD13]

Svoboda, the 'democracy loving peaceful protesters' in Ukraine that American government and media are hyping up are a far-right group of xenophobic and racist Neo-Nazis.

Putin is doing his best to make sure that these racist neo-nazis don't come in to power.

He also prematurely ended a war in Syria before it happened. America and Britain were desperate to send troops to Syria and take it over but Putin ended it peacefully.


Putin has been nominated for a Nobel Prize for Peace and deservedly so. He stopped a war in Syria and now is doing his best to peacefully ensure that a party of American funded Neo-Nazis don't take over Ukraine and send it in to hell. I am glad that brave leaders like Putin exist, who fight to end evil wars and ensure that evil Neo-Nazis dont come in to power.





http://www.ibtimes.com/svoboda-rising-spectre-neo-nazism-ukraine-974110

i see what you did there :biggums:

[MavsSuperFan]

Its not trolling. It's true. The team that the USA is supporting to take control of Ukraine are neo-nazis who quote Goebbels.

Why is America supporting the side of racist nazis and why are the American media not reporting the fact that a majority of the 'peaceful protesters' belong to Ukraine's racist nazi party?

IMO It's a good thing Putin stopped USA from going in to Syria and its a good thing now that he's sent in troops to make sure a racist Nazi party doesn't take control of Ukraine.
You are just picking out the most extreme group and pretending thats everyone in ukraine that wants to be independent from russia.

Also you really think its a good thing what assad is doing to his people? And you think it speaks well of putin that he and assad are allied, and he sells weapons to assad?

[ZenMaster]

Same reason the USA funded and provided Al Qaeda with weapons in Syria and Libya, it fits the agenda.

[KevinNYC]

First it was Assad's propaganda, now it's Putin's.

[zoom17]

Same reason the USA funded and provided Al Qaeda with weapons in Syria and Libya, it fits the agenda.

that failed big time Assad still in power.

[Nick Young]

It is impossible to argue that the USA has been providing billions of dollars in tax payer funding to finance a foreign Nazi party.

Ukrainian revolution doe amirite? Righteous democracy loving freedom fighters amirite doe hipsters?

[Shabba Ranks]

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[Marlo_Stanfield]

because they are a very pathetic country full of hypocrits:coleman: :coleman:

[RagaZ]

Nick Young mad that Ukraine beat his team in football :oldlol:

[Nick Young]

Props to Ukraine football team. Im mad that my government is using my money to fund a nazi coup in order to try to start ANOTHER needless war

[MightyWhitey]

Props to Ukraine football team. Im mad that my government is using my money to fund a nazi coup in order to try to start ANOTHER needless war
I'll tell you why they are supporting them. Because of Obama and the EU - http://www.globalresearch.ca/there-are-no-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-and-the-obama-administration-does-not-support-fascists/5370269

[Nick Young]

I'll tell you why they are supporting them. Because of Obama and the EU - http://www.globalresearch.ca/there-are-no-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-and-the-obama-administration-does-not-support-fascists/5370269
lol
http://i44.tinypic.com/2ez1m3k.jpg

This brave and noble democracy loving freedom fighter was given $5 billion in US taxpayer dollars. Power to the people AMIRITE? Putin is evil doe amirite?

http://images1.ynet.co.il/PicServer3/2013/11/11/4968115/vk_b.jpg

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s8/167237/large/5pHagsg.jpg

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s8/167244/large/ihsZio2.jpg
That's not a white power flag doe! Oh wait it is. They're flying it ironically doe so it's ok, right hipsters?
Noble peace loving freedom fighters doe, right hipsters?

[East_Stone_Ya]

the second pic above already tells that you haven't done your homework on the subject

but continue on with your trolling , ISH sheep will appreciate

[Nick Young]

the second pic above already tells that you haven't done your homework on the subject

but continue on with your trolling , ISH sheep will appreciate
no trolling scrub. Just a picture of peace loving freedom loving protesters in ukraine!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/there-are-no-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-and-the-obama-administration-does-not-support-fascists/5370269

Second pic is of the same Ukrainian neonazis when they vandalized an anti-hitler monument.

[ForeverHeat]

Nicky my man :applause: Finally showing you can think outside the box. Im not sure everything you say is 100% correct but the media definitely has an agenda against Putin and arent telling the full story.

[Overdrive]

Just because the one party is made of fascists it doesn't mean the other side of the spectrum is good. Think Hitler-Stalin.

Putin is no saint. And of course the US supports them, first and foremost, because they have to front against the Russians and second because the democrats are still very much right wing compared to european left wing parties, in most cases even right wing ones.

[JohnFreeman]

I just don't understand how America can complain about Russia invading someone...

[East_Stone_Ya]

no trolling scrub. Just a picture of peace loving freedom loving protesters in ukraine!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/there-are-no-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-and-the-obama-administration-does-not-support-fascists/5370269

Second pic is of the same Ukrainian neonazis when they vandalized an anti-hitler monument.

why would an Ukrainian neonazi be wearing a shirt that says ''i'm russian''?

[MMM]

Props to Ukraine football team. Im mad that my government is using my money to fund a nazi coup in order to try to start ANOTHER needless war

don't u live in the UK????
Are you still paying American taxes????

[Nick Young]

Just because the one party is made of fascists it doesn't mean the other side of the spectrum is good. Think Hitler-Stalin.

Putin is no saint. And of course the US supports them, first and foremost, because they have to front against the Russians and second because the democrats are still very much right wing compared to european left wing parties, in most cases even right wing ones.
No one's saying Putin is good. Im not arguing good vs evil here. Im not a philosopher and I dont view the world in black and white.

Putin is nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize-FACT

Interpret that how you will

[Overdrive]

No one's saying Putin is good. Im not arguing good vs evil here. Im not a philosopher and I dont view the world in black and white.

Putin is nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize-FACT

Interpret that how you will

You wrote "deservedly so". Just seems you're backing up what Putin does. Both sides are black or evil if you want to put it that simplicistic. The deal is that no foreign power wants the best for Ukraine. They follow their own interests. Putin doesn't give a shit about Neo-nazis. His eye is on one of the best economical places within his range and the EU wants the Ukraine to get into theirs. Ukraine needs an independent pluralistic parliament that isn't a puppet of Russia'S ressourcess or the EU's money. Doubt that will ever happen.

[Nick Young]

You wrote "deservedly so". Just seems you're backing up what Putin does. Both sides are black or evil if you want to put it that simplicistic. The deal is that no foreign power wants the best for Ukraine. They follow their own interests. Putin doesn't give a shit about Neo-nazis. His eye is on one of the best economical places within his range and the EU wants the Ukraine to get into theirs. Ukraine needs an independent pluralistic parliament that isn't a puppet of Russia'S ressourcess or the EU's money. Doubt that will ever happen.
You are the one trying to make things simpilistic by labeling sides good and evil.

Nazis are clearly evil. USA has given $5 billion in tax payer dollars to help a foreign nazi party complete a coup.

That is all I am saying.

All this immature "good guys bad guys good and evil" shit is coming from other posters in this thread.

[Overdrive]

You are the one trying to make things simpilistic by labeling sides good and evil.

Nazis are clearly evil. USA has given $5 billion in tax payer dollars to help a foreign nazi party complete a coup.

That is all I am saying.

All this immature "good guys bad guys good and evil" shit is coming from other posters in this thread.

I never claimed someone's evil or black, that's your wording. Something is complex as the situation in Ukraine is almost impossible to talk about on a basketball forum where alot of the people don't even know where Ukraine is on the globe.

[Nick Young]

I never claimed someone's evil or black, that's your wording. Something is complex as the situation in Ukraine is almost impossible to talk about on a basketball forum where alot of the people don't even know where Ukraine is on the globe.
All I am saying in my thread is that the US is supporting and funding foreign nazis. This is fact. There is no need to go off on tangents about the nature of good and evil.

[Overdrive]

All I am saying in my thread is that the US is supporting and funding foreign nazis. This is fact. There is no need to go off on tangents about the nature of good and evil.

Half your thread was about Putin being the sheriff, keeping Ukraine clean of Nazis for Ukraine's own sake, but whatever you say.

[Nick Young]

Half your thread was about Putin being the sheriff, keeping Ukraine clean of Nazis for Ukraine's own sake, but whatever you say.
Putin is trying to ensure that American sponsored Neo-Nazis don't take over the Ukrainian government-fact.

[Overdrive]

Putin is trying to ensure that American sponsored Neo-Nazis don't take over the Ukrainian government-fact.

No, Putin doesn't give a shit about neonazis in the Ukraine, he doesn't give a damn about Kiev. He wants the crim and parts of Ukraine east of the Dnieper as it's mostly russians there and alot of ressources. The coup is just an excuse to get there.

[Nick Young]

No, Putin doesn't give a shit about neonazis in the Ukraine, he doesn't give a damn about Kiev. He wants the crim and parts of Ukraine east of the Dnieper as it's mostly russians there and alot of ressources. The coup is just an excuse to get there.
No matter what you think his motives and reasoning for doing things are-here are three more indisputable facts.

Putin is against the Nazis taking control of the Ukraine government, and sending in troops to ensure this doesn't happen.

Putin is nominated for the Nobel Prize for Peace.

The USA has given $5 billion to fund a Nazi coup.

These are three facts.

[KevinNYC]

No one's saying Putin is good. Im not arguing good vs evil here. Im not a philosopher and I dont view the world in black and white.

Putin is nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize-FACT

Interpret that how you will

This whole ****ing thread is about seeing the world in black and white. It's hilarious to see you throwing out all context and distorting the nature of the opposition in Ukraine to set up your stupid "When did you stop beating your wife?" moral posturing and then claiming you don't view the world in black and white

Using your own argument you are on the side of dictators shooting protestors through the neck. You are on the side of military agressors.

You have such a dumb way of arguing. Do you know how someone gets Nominated for a Noble? (http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/nomination_committee/who-can-nominate/) It's not by the Noble Committee. Fact.

Some member of the Russian government who wanted to kiss Putin's ass could have nominated him or any history professor. Over 270 people are nominated for the Peace Prize this year. Troll or vanity nominations have been a fact for years, it makes for a good press release. The Noble Committee then vets this big list to come up with the eligible nominees.

[QUOTE]A nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize may be submitted by any person who meets the nomination criteria. A letter of invitation to submit is not required. The names of the nominees and other information about the nominations cannot be revealed until 50 years later.
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Process of Nomination and Selection
The Norwegian Nobel Committee is responsible for selecting the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates. A nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize may be submitted by any persons who are qualified to nominate.

Qualified Nominators
According to the statutes of the Nobel Foundation, a nomination is considered valid if it is submitted by a person who falls within one of the following categories:

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[Overdrive]

No matter what you think his motives and reasoning for doing things are-here are three more indisputable facts.

Putin is against the Nazis taking control of the Ukraine government, and sending in troops to ensure this doesn't happen.

Putin is nominated for the Nobel Prize for Peace.

The USA has given $5 billion to fund a Nazi coup.

These are three facts.

That's like people saying Hitler built the autobahn. wtf really. The motives are important for judging the facts, because they give an outlook on the consequences of those facts.

[Nick Young]

That's like people saying Hitler built the autobahn. wtf really. The motives are important for judging the facts, because they give an outlook on the consequences of those facts.
Hitler built the Autobahn. Fact.

[Nick Young]

This whole ****ing thread is about seeing the world in black and white. It's hilarious to see you throwing out all context and distorting the nature of the opposition in Ukraine to set up your stupid "When did you stop beating your wife?" moral posturing and then claiming you don't view the world in black and white

Using your own argument you are on the side of dictators shooting protestors through the neck. You are on the side of military agressors.

You have such a dumb way of arguing. Do you know how someone gets Nominated for a Noble? (http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/nomination_committee/who-can-nominate/) It's not by the Noble Committee. Fact.

Some member of the Russian government who wanted to kiss Putin's ass could have nominated him or any history professor. Over 270 people are nominated for the Peace Prize this year. Troll or vanity nominations have been a fact for years, it makes for a good press release. The Noble Committee then vets this big list to come up with the eligible nominees.



Put this way. Putin is not getting on the red carpet yet. Somebody is just running a "For Your Consideration" Oscar campaign. It didn't work for this documentary.
http://vallieegirl67.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/bad25-1.jpg
U mad that the freedom loving peaceful protesters you been rooting for are actually neo-Nazis doe?:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[East_Stone_Ya]

10. Mr. Putin says: The Rada is under the influence of extremists or terrorists.

The Facts: The Rada is the most representative institution in Ukraine. Recent legislation has passed with large majorities, including from representatives of eastern Ukraine. Far-right wing ultranationalist groups, some of which were involved in open clashes with security forces during the EuroMaidan protests, are not represented in the Rada. There is no indication that the Ukrainian government would pursue discriminatory policies; on the contrary, they have publicly stated exactly the opposite.


is guess Nick has been reading RT news lately

[Ratnik]

What's wrong with being a nazi?

[Nick Young]

is guess Nick has been reading RT news lately
Nope.

Sorry that your beloved freedom fighters you've been supporting are actually nazis.