Phil Jackson offered Knicks position as head of basketball

[niko]

Sources: Various, but Isola. Decision expected next week. Not sure of title but basically he'd be in charge of everything.

Article is up on Daily News. I'm on phone so i can't link right now. Says he will make the decision next week.

As per the question below, yes Isola is reputable a source as you could have for something like this.

[Basketbolero]

Sources: Various, but Isola.
Is he any reputable?

EDIT: OK thanks

Link below:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/front-office-position-lure-phil-jackson-back-knicks-article-1.1714166

[Knicksfever2010]

Already been posted BY ME, deal w/ it.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328173

[niko]

Already been posted BY ME, deal w/ it.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328173
No, your thread was not there when mine was plus your title is stupid. Deal with that sucka! :lol

[Clyde]

No, your thread was not there when mine was plus your title is stupid. Deal with that sucka! :lol

Guy with 20K worth of posts wins

[Basketbolero]

Already been posted BY ME, deal w/ it.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328173
Your thread sucks, you type like an EMO teenager, this thread >>>> yours

[hitman24]

Wonder what Jeanie Buss has to say about this..

[Clyde]

In any case, has Phil done anything like this in the past?

We all know his coaching resume, but evaluating talent, front office decisions, plus he inherits a giant mess.

[niko]

In any case, has Phil done anything like this in the past?

We all know his coaching resume, but evaluating talent, front office decisions, plus he inherits a giant mess.
It's a risk, sure . But at least he has the cache to keep Dolan away and it's logical, from a franchise which so often is not.

[BasedTom]

If it's not Woj reporting it, then it's not official.

[Clyde]

It's a risk, sure . But at least he has the cache to keep Dolan away and it's logical, from a franchise which so often is not.

I like the move, I'm just unaware of his resume.

hope it works out.

[hitman24]

In any case, has Phil done anything like this in the past?

We all know his coaching resume, but evaluating talent, front office decisions, plus he inherits a giant mess.

Yup..he advised Dumars on Pistons frontcourt.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Is he good? Can Miami get him?

[Clyde]

Is he good? Can Miami get him?

:banghead:

[Vienceslav]

Phil Jackson, you hear that Boston?
Phil Jackson!

[Knicksfever2010]

Sources: Various, but Isola. Decision expected next week. Not sure of title but basically he'd be in charge of everything.

Article is up on Daily News. I'm on phone so i can't link right now. Says he will make the decision next week.

As per the question below, yes Isola is reputable a source as you could have for something like this.

I'm not very pleased with what you did to my thread

[Clyde]

I'm not very pleased with what you did to my thread

mmmmmm......salty

[AirFederer]

Finally a beast down low.


Dey scared now.:cheers:

[niko]

I'm not very pleased with what you did to my thread
:no: I didn't ban u, u should be grateful

[BlazerRed]

This would be huge for the Knicks.

[Vienceslav]

Since the other thread was deleted and somebody already made a joke about the 2008 promo in this one, I'm just going to say: formidable!

[mr.big35]

he just need two super stars in his team and he will show his magic

[Rose'sACL]

according to Stephen A Smith, he isn't interested.

[R.I.P.]

In any case, has Phil done anything like this in the past?

We all know his coaching resume, but evaluating talent, front office decisions, plus he inherits a giant mess.

Not much of a mess. One more year of the big and bad contracts. The Knicks can probably trade Chandler and Bargnani each for a late 1st/2nd round pick in the summer, if they want to. They

[JUDGE WITNESS]

the knicks are inherent failures. lebron could be on the knicks and they would still exit in the first round, MAYBE the second

[MP.Trey]

according to common sense and logic, he isn't interested.
...

[scm5]

I am eternally grateful for what Mitch has done for the franchise, but I think it's time LA considers replacing Mitch with Phil who is way more likely to say no to Jim.

[TheReal Kendall]

He's not interested.


Could Phil make the Knicks a contender?

[Akrazotile]

Phil Jackson: The Kobe of coaching/management.

i.e. Most grossly overrated figure in basketball.

[Clyde]

Phil Jackson: The Kobe of coaching/management.

i.e. Most grossly overrated figure in basketball.

trolololololololo:facepalm

[Basketbolero]

Phil Jackson: The Kobe of coaching/management.

i.e. Most grossly overrated figure in basketball.
You are not very smart, are you?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

hope you guys are ok with kurt rambis becoming knicks new head coach.

[MVBallin2K]

Wow, what a slap in the face to be a Laker fan the last two years. Here's a check list of major events leaving out some other smaller ones:


A) Mike D'Antoni is hired over Phil Jackson. Phil is informed of the decision directly after being blindsided by it.

B) Dwight Howard leaves in free agency wanting D'Antoni gone but Lakers stick to their guns and he leaves.

C) Injury riddled season including Kobe coming back only to reinjure himself.

D) Lakers endure worst franchise loss against the long time little brother Clippers.

E) The next day it's revealed that the Knicks offer Phil a position while the Lakers continue to rot with D'Antoni at the helm of coaching. Jim Buss continues to take this team to a new low.


Even if he doesn't accept, that's just sad.

[Basketbolero]

Wow, what a slap in the face to be a Laker fan the last two years. Here's a check list of major events leaving out some other smaller ones:


A) Mike D'Antoni is hired over Phil Jackson. Phil is informed of the decision directly after being blindsided by it.

B) Dwight Howard leaves in free agency wanting D'Antoni gone but Lakers stick to their guns and he leaves.

C) Injury riddled season including Kobe coming back only to reinjure himself.

D) Lakers endure worst franchise loss against the long time little brother Clippers.

E) The next day it's revealed that the Knicks offer Phil a position while the Lakers continue to rot with D'Antoni at the helm of coaching. Jim Buss continues to take this team to a new low.


Even if he doesn't accept, that's just sad.
Yeah, I'm sure Lakers fans are kicking themselves over E :oldlol:
That franchise has been consistently winning since like forever, I think they can do with a few years of irrelevance while others get some success

[MMM]

If anybody can save the Knicks it is Phil, the problem with the organization currently is that it is seen as a career killah. It is probably why Phil isn't interested.

[MavsSuperFan]

Honestly always thought Pjax was a little overrated.

He has always had the best talent in the league.

[inclinerator]

he doesnt wanna coach unless he has the best talents

[MMM]

Honestly always thought Pjax was a little overrated.

He has always had the best talent in the league.

Managing the best talent and super egos is supremely difficult to accomplish.

[Dbrog]

Idk if Phil would really great at completely running a franchise. I mean, his strongest asset has always been his motivational and chemistry building skills. I don't see how either of these play a huge part into the Knicks organization. At best they will have a cohesive administration who actually work hard and enjoy their jobs. That still doesn't necessarily guarantee any real success.

[gts]

Yeah, I'm sure Lakers fans are kicking themselves over E :oldlol:
That franchise has been consistently winning since like forever, I think they can do with a few years of irrelevance while others get some success

this..

Lakers woes seem to bother non Laker fans more than it does actual Laker fans

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Say what you will about Phil Jackson but there is no doubt he would be a better VP of basketball operations than JR Smith

[gts]

Idk if Phil would really great at completely running a franchise. I mean, his strongest asset has always been his motivational and chemistry building skills. I don't see how either of these play a huge part into the Knicks organization. At best they will have a cohesive administration who actually work hard and enjoy their jobs. That still doesn't necessarily guarantee any real success.

Phil has that cache that comes with being a great coach.. That would get him a honeymoon period and help with the players but like you mentioned the front office is different than the bench, two very different dynamics

one of Phil's ploys was to always create a "Us in the locker room" vs "Them in the front office" atmosphere to get his team to follow but you can't use that tactic when you're one of "Them" it would take an adjustment on his part

[Sarcastic]

Do it for Red, Phil.

[JohnFreeman]

Knicks need someone to kick some ass

[Akrazotile]

Managing the best talent and super egos is supremely difficult to accomplish.

Manage?

What manage?

Michael Jordan literally retired during his prime, and Shaq and Kobe feuded so publicly it led to Dr. Buss having to choose between the two. Gasol and Bynum basically quit on the Lakers because they were sick of Kobe, who also quit on them after game 1 of their eventual playoff sweep by Dallas.


LOL @ "manage" like this dude manages anything. He sits on the bench and whistles. Everything else has been good fortune. He got handed stacked talent which inevitably won him some titles. You could argue that if he was such a great "manager" of egos that he should have won more. How many years did he coach with stacked rosters?

Can't wait till Spoelstra (who was dubbed AWFUL by every Heat fan until they won a title) wins a few more chips and suddenly goes down as one of the GOAT "ego managers."


SMH @ this contrived nonsense.

[smoovegittar]

That would change things very quickly. It would also show me that Jim is finally willing to take a few steps back, and a leap of faith. I know he loves the team; he just needs to get the hell out of the way. Look at what Glen Sather has done for the Rangers. We'll see how this shakes out...

[MVBallin2K]

this..

Lakers woes seem to bother non Laker fans more than it does actual Laker fans

I'm a Laker fan. It's not that I don't believe in the franchise to come back or think that "We're tanking, we're doomed". Thing is...that we don't know how Jim Buss will do as an owner long term. So far, things haven't worked out and I can't say I approve of a lot of his decisions.

Perhaps this is all good in the long run in the end with the bigger picture and Lakers will rebuild stronger than if they had kept Dwight and had Phil as a coach again. No one knows but all I was simply saying that it hasn't been a good two years to be a Laker fan. I'm not jumping off the wagon when things are bad though, stick with it through and through. We'll see how the lottery goes.

[gts]

I'm a Laker fan. It's not that I don't believe in the franchise to come back or think that "We're tanking, we're doomed". Thing is...that we don't know how Jim Buss will do as an owner long term. So far, things haven't worked out and I can't say I approve of a lot of his decisions.

Perhaps this is all good in the long run in the end with the bigger picture and Lakers will rebuild stronger than if they had kept Dwight and had Phil as a coach again. No one knows but all I was simply saying that it hasn't been a good two years to be a Laker fan. I'm not jumping off the wagon when things are bad though, stick with it through and through. We'll see how the lottery goes.

It's been a year since Buss took over, certainly not enough time to even begin to be making judgements.

Like you said, we won't know how things will go long term until it's actually been long term...

[el gringos]

Carmelo fits the triangle perfect, as do jr and bargnani. Shumperts only chance at being a big time player is as a triangle type offense pg.


Phil takes a team that misses the playoffs and in 2 years has the best offensive team in the nba because it's built off Carmelo in the baseline and post instead of with the ball from the perimeter

Dragic/shumpert/stuckey
Jr/hardaway jr
Carmelo
Kevin love/Jason smith
Bargnani/chandler

[CelticBaller]

Do it phil

[Blue&Orange]

Is he coaching today already? if not wtf is going on? they looking like nba players today.

[Patrick Chewing]

If Phil takes the Front Office position, I hope he brings in Van Gundy as the next coach. With this combo, the Knicks are title contenders by 2016.

[eliteballer]

The combination of this debacle of a season, the Nets threatening the NY market/fanbase, and Melo leaving might have finally compelled Dolan to act like a sane owner.

[Heavincent]

Delusions of grandeur.

[guy]

I don't get it. With Phil being engaged to Jeannie, isn't this a huge a conflict of interest that the NBA would not allow? Shit, people were making a big deal out of Kevin McHale trading KG to the Celtics because it was his former team and his former teammate was the Celtics GM. This is literally wife and husband. Now, every time the Lakers and Knicks make a deal with each other everyone is going to be like WTF. Phil even mentioned this in a interview about him possibly being the Lakers coach since its another conflict of interest because its essentially the owner being the coach. With Phil getting married to Jeannie, he's basically the owner of the Lakers too, so now the owners of one organization are basically in control of two different franchises????

By the way, on another note, what kind of marriage is that? Dude is 70 years old and about to get married, could probably die within the decade, and he'll be working from New York while his wife lives in LA? Or would he be working from LA?

And also, I can't imagine Phil wanting to keep Melo after this season. That's just not his type of player to build around, and understandably so. Since Dolan wants to do everything to keep Melo, I could see that being the possible dealbreaker.

[mr.big35]

Manage?

What manage?

Michael Jordan literally retired during his prime, and Shaq and Kobe feuded so publicly it led to Dr. Buss having to choose between the two. Gasol and Bynum basically quit on the Lakers because they were sick of Kobe, who also quit on them after game 1 of their eventual playoff sweep by Dallas.


LOL @ "manage" like this dude manages anything. He sits on the bench and whistles. Everything else has been good fortune. He got handed stacked talent which inevitably won him some titles. You could argue that if he was such a great "manager" of egos that he should have won more. How many years did he coach with stacked rosters?

Can't wait till Spoelstra (who was dubbed AWFUL by every Heat fan until they won a title) wins a few more chips and suddenly goes down as one of the GOAT "ego managers."


SMH @ this contrived nonsense.

pop is superior coach

[kennethgriffin]

wouldnt this technically be against the CBA since phil and jeanie are engaged to be married. wouldnt they have to call it off unless they signed a prenuptial agreement. since combining assets through marriage would transfer a percentage of laker ownership over to phil. and being in charge of another franchise's operations would go against NBA rules

he could basically make unfair trades to LA to gain investment opportunities.

[guy]

wouldnt this technically be against the CBA since phil and jeanie are engaged to be married. wouldnt they have to call it off unless they signed a prenuptial agreement. since combining assets through marriage would transfer a percentage of laker ownership over to phil. and being in charge of another franchise's operations would go against NBA rules

he could basically make unfair trades to LA to gain investment opportunities.



Well trades can be vetoed i.e. Chris Paul, but its still a huge conflict of interest that can't be eliminated just by vetos, plus even fair trades would be looked at oddly because you don't know what the motive is.

On top of that, I could see it effect other teams indirectly, not just in trades between the two team. Lets say the Knicks and Heat are battling at the top of the conference and the Heat propose a trade midseason to the Lakers that will clearly benefit both teams, and the Lakers for whatever reason decline it. The huge controversy would be if the Lakers turned it down just because it would hurt the Knicks' chances. Bottom line is with this happening, for both Phil and Jeannie they couldn't be operating solely with the best interests of the organizations they are officially affiliated with.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Phil-Jackson1-e1305298487566.jpg

[secund2nun]

Manage?

What manage?

Michael Jordan literally retired during his prime, and Shaq and Kobe feuded so publicly it led to Dr. Buss having to choose between the two. Gasol and Bynum basically quit on the Lakers because they were sick of Kobe, who also quit on them after game 1 of their eventual playoff sweep by Dallas.


LOL @ "manage" like this dude manages anything. He sits on the bench and whistles. Everything else has been good fortune. He got handed stacked talent which inevitably won him some titles. You could argue that if he was such a great "manager" of egos that he should have won more. How many years did he coach with stacked rosters?

Can't wait till Spoelstra (who was dubbed AWFUL by every Heat fan until they won a title) wins a few more chips and suddenly goes down as one of the GOAT "ego managers."


SMH @ this contrived nonsense.

Spo sucks, but Phil is legit. He may not be as good as Popovich, but he is a great coach. Look at the 94 Bulls to see how good Phil is.

[longtime lurker]

I guess Phil brings some sort of stability to the front office and has the name that NBA people will respect. Dolan better surround him with a hell of a staff because he can be pretty one track minded when it comes to selecting players.

[Heavincent]

Manage?

What manage?

Michael Jordan literally retired during his prime, and Shaq and Kobe feuded so publicly it led to Dr. Buss having to choose between the two. Gasol and Bynum basically quit on the Lakers because they were sick of Kobe, who also quit on them after game 1 of their eventual playoff sweep by Dallas.


LOL @ "manage" like this dude manages anything. He sits on the bench and whistles. Everything else has been good fortune. He got handed stacked talent which inevitably won him some titles. You could argue that if he was such a great "manager" of egos that he should have won more. How many years did he coach with stacked rosters?

Can't wait till Spoelstra (who was dubbed AWFUL by every Heat fan until they won a title) wins a few more chips and suddenly goes down as one of the GOAT "ego managers."


SMH @ this contrived nonsense.

Wait, this doesn't make sense. You claim that Kobe is just an overrated chucker that has no impact on the game, so how were the Lakers stacked?

Things get tricky when you have this many agendas.

[oarabbus]

Offered doesn't mean accepted? I thought PJax has stated several times he's done with coaching.

[Shade8780]

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 1m
THIS JUST IN: Phil Jackson is leaning toward taking job with Knicks to become president of basketball operations. (via @stephenasmith)
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[Trentknicks]

Offered doesn't mean accepted? I thought PJax has stated several times he's done with coaching.
You are such a whiny little bitch.

[bluechox2]

Offered doesn't mean accepted? I thought PJax has stated several times he's done with coaching.
read the article, you may find that its not for coaching

[oarabbus]

You are such a whiny little bitch.

:oldlol: you mad? what would I be whining about? The fact that the Knicks are gonna pay PJax a ****load of money and stay lottery-bound, without draft pics? :lol yeah you mad, looks like you're the one whining

bitch.



read the article, you may find that its not for coaching

Yeah I read it, dumb of me to assume that he was coaching

[Lebron23]

Good for the knicks. They need some leadership in their front office.