Does anyone think Rose will come back this year?

[poido123]

Play-by-play announcer, Neil Funk for the Chicago Bulls seems to think so.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/18077/funk-has-hunch-rose-back-this-season


With Rose in the lineup playing 20 a game, that could certainly boost the Bulls chances?

[Dr. Ice]

Who?

[Jameerthefear]

Play-by-play announcer for the Chicago Bulls seems to think so.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/18077/funk-has-hunch-rose-back-this-season


With Rose in the lineup playing 20 a game, that could certainly boost the Bulls chances?
Chances of what?

[Smook A.]

Yeah. October 2014

Still 'this year' :lol

[poido123]

Who?


Neil Funk :banana:


But seriously, I'm just opening a discussion up for people to give their opinion on a Rose comeback.

It's a little different than last year. Last year we got to see a lot of Rose and his rehab. This year there's been a lot more hush hush and Rose might feel this team has a lot better chance than last if he suited up. This injury is less severe and the injury time says he's due back before the playoffs.

[Milbuck]

I don't think so. I am one of the people who thinks he'll come back as his old self.

[FKAri]

Derrick Rose works at the HR department at my company now. Don't worry OP. He seems quite happy at the company parties.

[jzek]

He has muscle memory problems.

[poido123]

Chances of what?


Competing with Miami and Indy.

[poido123]

Derrick Rose works at the HR department at my company now. Don't worry OP. He seems quite happy at the company parties.


Say what? :lol

[JohnFreeman]

I would just stay out the season.

[ForeverHeat]

Rose needs to stop this crap and just come back when he ready, and no when he thinks he should. I can understand trying to make sure you dont affect your future playing potential, but at what point does it become a situation where the guy is burning unnecessary years off his short career?

[poido123]

I would just stay out the season.


Rose may not get many chances to compete for a title.

He may not even have a team like this in the future, if he's healthy and ready to go, no reason to sit out.

Last year, there was reason to. He had one major injury on his knee and it was all about protecting his future and getting ready for the next season.

This year, he now has another bad injury. He may ever get to play basketball at a high level, let alone play for a contender. He may as well get out there and play limited minutes and help the team, than not play at all.

I'm just tired of watching year after year of "what could of been" and disappointment. Rose would lift the team and it's fans if he showed heart and risked it all.

[Akrazotile]

Rose needs to stop this crap and just come back when he ready, and no when he thinks he should. I can understand trying to make sure you dont affect your future playing potential, but at what point does it become a situation where the guy is burning unnecessary years off his short career?


The dude tore his MENISCUS. Thats supposed to be like a four week injury at best. I know, because Ive done it. Countless NBA players have done it, many came back within two weeks. Some just kept playing and had surgery after the season.

This dude has REDEFINED the word soft. Nothin against him personally, but he is SOFT.

[Jameerthefear]

Competing with Miami and Indy.
They don't have a chance even with rose

[inclinerator]

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2014/03/8291256.jpg

[ForeverHeat]

The dude tore his MENISCUS. Thats supposed to be like a four week injury at best. I know, because Ive done it. Countless NBA players have done it, many came back within two weeks. Some just kept playing and had surgery after the season.

This dude has REDEFINED the word soft. Nothin against him personally, but he is SOFT.

Exactly. I wonder what guys like Noah think about Rose hanging them out to dry like this.

[poido123]

Rose needs to stop this crap and just come back when he ready, and no when he thinks he should. I can understand trying to make sure you dont affect your future playing potential, but at what point does it become a situation where the guy is burning unnecessary years off his short career?

Exactly, I agree with you.

At some point you owe it to the fans and yourself to get out there and at least try, even if it's just limited minutes.

He had the whole of the offseason last year to get back to what he was, now there's a good chance he never will. Might as well go down fighting I say.

[Basketbolero]

He has muscle memory problems.
That was very original.

On topic, no, he is not coming back, he is out for the season, remember? We had enough of that last year.

[poido123]

They don't have a chance even with rose


They have a puncher's chance.

To write off a well-coached and elite defensive team like the Bulls is foolish.

While I personally think that Miami and Indy are clearly better, I always hold out hope that the Bulls can play out of their mind and pull an upset.

[poido123]

That was very original.

On topic, no, he is not coming back, he is out for the season, remember? We had enough of that last year.

Different injury AND knee, different circumstances.

Last year it was about getting fully ready for this year and be back to what he was.

I just don't see why waiting is gonna do any good. Like the poster said before me, he is wasting years of competing. Noah and Taj are playing awesome this year, guys like Dunleavy and Augustin have fit right in, Miami are vulnerable to burnout, I just think there are more reasons to get back out there.

His fans would certainly appreciate it.

[Jameerthefear]

They have a puncher's chance.

To write off a well-coached and elite defensive team like the Bulls is foolish.

While I personally think that Miami and Indy are clearly better, I always hold out hope that the Bulls can play out of their mind and pull an upset.
No they don't. There is not enough of a chance for Rose to come back. Bulls get swept by both teams. Maybe they win one game.

[brownmamba00]

Bledsoe had the same injury and he's gonna be back next week...so yes I def think he's coming back as he should.

You don't sit out the playoffs 2 years in a row, you need to honor that contract and get your ass back on the court man...he sat out the PO's last year because of 'muscle memory':biggums: while Noah and Nate left it all on the court.

This year no excuses tho thibs needs to tell him if you fit you play Dee PERIOD

[JohnFreeman]

I do miss watching Rose play. Heat Bulls ECF was pretty good

[Basketbolero]

Different injury AND knee, different circumstances.

Last year it was about getting fully ready for this year and be back to what he was.

I just don't see why waiting is gonna do any good. Like the poster said before me, he is wasting years of competing. Noah and Taj are playing awesome this year, guys like Dunleavy and Augustin have fit right in, Miami are vulnerable to burnout, I just think there are more reasons to get back out there.

His fans would certainly appreciate it.
It doesn't mater what the fans want, you don't return from a knee injury or any injury before schedule just because 'your fans would certainly appreciate it'. the only reason to 'be out there' is being healthy enough and ready to contribute positively, which does not seem to be the case right now.

The medical staff said he will be back at training camp and that's what will happen. Anything else would be silly and irresponsible and it's not like the team has a chance at winning the championship this year. Do you want to risk the future of yout franchise player for an extra playoff round, if at all?

Besides, you were here weeks ago saying you wanted the team to tank hard and now you want Rose to come back this season? That does not sound consistent to me.

I am looking forward to his return but I am also sick of this silly speculation and trying to enjoy the nice little season the team is putting together.

[Basketbolero]

Bledsoe had the same injury and he's gonna be back next week...so yes I def think he's coming back as he should.

You don't sit out the playoffs 2 years in a row, you need to honor that contract and get your ass back on the court man...he sat out the PO's last year because of 'muscle memory':biggums: while Noah and Nate left it all on the court.

This year no excuses tho thibs needs to tell him if you fit you play Dee PERIOD
It's funny that you put so much interest in what Rose should or should not do and how his teammates fell about it when you are not even a Bulls fan.

Better yet, you even have advice for what Thibs should do :oldlol: Every injury is different and none of us know what his health is like right now, let alone what it will be like in a month time so this is just personal opinions based on a handful of articles with not much evidence.

[D.J.]

They don't have a chance even with rose


They upset the Nets last year without him and stole game 1 in Miami. This year, they can be the 3rd seed. You're going to tell me that the Bulls with a healthy Rose isn't winning 55-60 games?



It doesn't mater what the fans want, you don't return from a knee injury or any injury before schedule just because 'your fans would certainly appreciate it'. the only reason to 'be out there' is being healthy enough and ready to contribute positively, which does not seem to be the case right now.

The medical staff said he will be back at training camp and that's what will happen. Anything else would be silly and irresponsible and it's not like the team has a chance at winning the championship this year. Do you want to risk the future of yout franchise player for an extra playoff round, if at all?


Only problem with that is last year, he actually WAS cleared to play and still didn't. I cheer for this Bulls team. They're well-coached, they're gritty, give it 110%, and they back down from no one. It's impossible for me not to cheer for guys like Noah/Boozer/Butler(and Nate last year) while they're out there busting their asses while Rose hands out excuse after excuse.

[rhowen4]

The dude tore his MENISCUS. Thats supposed to be like a four week injury at best. I know, because Ive done it. Countless NBA players have done it, many came back within two weeks. Some just kept playing and had surgery after the season.

This dude has REDEFINED the word soft. Nothin against him personally, but he is SOFT.
Rose had his meniscus repaired rather than removed, which has a much longer recovery time. It's supposedly better in the long term. Did you have yours removed or repaired?

On a side note, Bledsoe had his removed so he could come back during the season I guess.

[BlazerRed]

He has muscle memory problems.
:oldlol:

[Basketbolero]

Only problem with that is last year, he actually WAS cleared to play and still didn't. I cheer for this Bulls team. They're well-coached, they're gritty, give it 110%, and they back down from no one. It's impossible for me not to cheer for guys like Noah/Boozer/Butler(and Nate last year) while they're out there busting their asses while Rose hands out excuse after excuse.
Grant Hill was also cleared to play and playing even though he did not feel right, see how that worked out for him.

Rose played through injuries consistenly in 2011 and especially 2012 so don't act like he is soft. If he doesn't feel ready to play, I'm disappointed as I miss watchimg him play but totally understand it, anybody who has ever played basketball or any sport at a more or less serious level understands that.

[D.J.]

Grant Hill was also cleared to play and playing even though he did not feel right, see how that worked out for him.

Rose played through injuries consistenly in 2011 and especially 2012 so don't act like he is soft. If he doesn't feel ready to play, I'm disappointed as I miss watchimg him play but totally understand it, anybody who has ever played basketball or any sport at a more or less serious level understands that.


So one player got hurt, every other player who isn't "ready" should sit? His injuries in '11 and '12 were nothing compared to his last two. You play when you're cleared and told to play. Hell you can't even prove his recent injury was a result of the prior one.

[Basketbolero]

So one player got hurt, every other player who isn't "ready" should sit? His injuries in '11 and '12 were nothing compared to his last two. You play when you're cleared and told to play. Hell you can't even prove his recent injury was a result of the prior one.
You are wrong there, you play when medical staff, coaching staff and yourself all think you are ready. This is not an office job we are talking about, it's more complex than saying: you are fixed so go out and play.

No one is saying that 2nd injury was a result of the prior one. What I am saying is the players should have the final decision after discussing all concerns with the experts.

[TheMan]

Yeah. October 2014

Still 'this year' :lol
This, sadly...

As a Bulls fan, and I hate saying this, we need to start looking beyond him. At this point, I have no confidence in his ability to stay injury free.

[Basketbolero]

OT: Don't see a GT so will post it here, LMAO at the referring of the game vs Memphis, they can't seem to get anything right :facepalm

[Rose'sACL]

Rose may not get many chances to compete for a title.

He may not even have a team like this in the future, if he's healthy and ready to go, no reason to sit out.

Last year, there was reason to. He had one major injury on his knee and it was all about protecting his future and getting ready for the next season.

This year, he now has another bad injury. He may ever get to play basketball at a high level, let alone play for a contender. He may as well get out there and play limited minutes and help the team, than not play at all.

I'm just tired of watching year after year of "what could of been" and disappointment. Rose would lift the team and it's fans if he showed heart and risked it all.
Jordan won bulls 6. be happy that you chose wisely before joining the forum. You can't lose any arguments. ask swish/dondadda that. if someone is not agreeing with you then just say "but jordan is the GOAT and because i am a lifelong bulls fan from australia, i am right".

[D.J.]

You are wrong there, you play when medical staff, coaching staff and yourself all think you are ready. This is not an office job we are talking about, it's more complex than saying: you are fixed so go out and play.


No I'm not wrong. You don't decide when to play. If medical staff and coaching staff don't feel you're ready, then you don't play. They say play, you play.

[cos88]

i forgot about dis clown, something will happen and he will not return even in oct 2014 :lol

[Basketbolero]

No I'm not wrong. You don't decide when to play. If medical staff and coaching staff don't feel you're ready, then you don't play. They say play, you play.
Well, that's what you think, however...

Thibs:

"Before he makes the final step, everyone has to get together and sign off. That hasn't happened yet. The most important part of this is that we have to trust Derrick, and I trust him."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/bulls/2013/03/08/derrick-rose-injury-knee-acl-tear-chicago-tom-thibodeau-not-quite-ready/1974371/

And then you have his teammates saying it is HIS decision, and supporting him on that:

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/12076/deng-rose-has-to-be-one-to-decide-return

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/12156/teammates-support-roses-right-to-decide

And colleagues, saying pretty much the same:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/21709880/lebron-defends-derrick-roses-right-to-decide-on-season-return

So yes, you are clearly wrong

[nathanjizzle]

ive always assumed all year that he is coming back this season. neil funk just validated it.

[Pointguard]

The dude tore his MENISCUS. Thats supposed to be like a four week injury at best. I know, because Ive done it. Countless NBA players have done it, many came back within two weeks. Some just kept playing and had surgery after the season.

This dude has REDEFINED the word soft. Nothin against him personally, but he is SOFT.

Rose knows his body better than anybody else. He knew after his ACL that something wasn't right. There were probably anywhere between 50 or 70 threads on these boards where guys like yourself became Rose's doctor and layed out their unexpert advice. Its totally amazing that basketball fans can't tell that Rose pivots, torques, twist unlike any other player ever in the game and is an all world class athlete. That shouldn't be that hard to tell. Rose has a high standard for himself and sets his own high standards.

If you feel something is wrong with you, you should never bow to peer pressure and do something because it worked for other people. ONLY SOFT PEOPLE do that. "Other people came back in six weeks...." after you are 16 years of age peer pressure shouldn't be a factor. He's different and may just not be a great healer. But he's his own man, and that's all he has to live with the rest of his life. It would be profoundly stupid to play and endanger his career on the account of others or the incredibly high number of haters he has.

I would like to see another player bold enough to offer a challenge to Lebron in some way. Rose is the only player to do that. And if he's soft... . It would be a lot better if other players had enough guts to say "why can't I be MVP." and then back it up. So if he's soft... . The league would be a lot better if we had another player that got up for every challenge against the best players at his position and not one came away smiling. So if he's soft... . Since Rose left Lebron has been on his own planet without much of a threat. By nature a vacuum has to be filled. So if Rose is soft... what are saying about all the other players.

[TheCorporation]

Come back this year and do what? Did you guys miss him earlier this season?

16-4-3 on 35%

3
5
%

As in, .354 FG%

[Smook A.]

I do miss watching Rose play. Heat Bulls ECF was pretty good
Yeah right. That series was boring. There was zero competition.

Watching Rose vs the Hawks in the playoffs was fun tho

[D.J.]

Well, that's what you think, however...

Thibs:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/bulls/2013/03/08/derrick-rose-injury-knee-acl-tear-chicago-tom-thibodeau-not-quite-ready/1974371/

And then you have his teammates saying it is HIS decision, and supporting him on that:

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/12076/deng-rose-has-to-be-one-to-decide-return

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/12156/teammates-support-roses-right-to-decide

And colleagues, saying pretty much the same:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/21709880/lebron-defends-derrick-roses-right-to-decide-on-season-return

So yes, you are clearly wrong


That doesn't prove me wrong at all. His coach and teammates aren't going to go to the media and be like "He needs to get his ass back on the court. The doctor cleared him". That would make the organization look bad. The team doctor wouldn't clear him to play if he thought Rose had no business playing, and I'm sure he listened to Rose's input before he gave him clearance.

[ImKobe]

There's no doubt Rose will want to come back if the team continues to do this well & go into the Playoffs with HCA in the 1st round, I know the team isn't really a title contender but they'd have a shot at beating Indy if Rose could get healthy enough.

He's been out for what, 4 months now? Playoffs are still over a month away, he should come back if the injury has healed.

[poido123]

It doesn't mater what the fans want, you don't return from a knee injury or any injury before schedule just because 'your fans would certainly appreciate it'. the only reason to 'be out there' is being healthy enough and ready to contribute positively, which does not seem to be the case right now.

The medical staff said he will be back at training camp and that's what will happen. Anything else would be silly and irresponsible and it's not like the team has a chance at winning the championship this year. Do you want to risk the future of yout franchise player for an extra playoff round, if at all?

Besides, you were here weeks ago saying you wanted the team to tank hard and now you want Rose to come back this season? That does not sound consistent to me.

I am looking forward to his return but I am also sick of this silly speculation and trying to enjoy the nice little season the team is putting together.


Look, I had the same thoughts as you and thought the conservative approach was best and supported Rose for that action.

I was fooled into thinking that this team was heading for the tank, only that the players didn't want to buy and coach didn't want into that. Fast forward to now and we have a team that has suprisingly played really good basketball, Noah and Gibson are rolling and DJ has fit right in.

Now, if you added Rose to the equation(not saying we are contenders) and we have a team capable of giving Miami and Indy some problems.

He has had a year's grace to get his body right, but at some point you need to start earning the money on your contract and pleasing the fans...

Anyways, that's my opinion and I'm sure it will change 100 times over again :D

[coin24]

I think they'd be better off without rose for this year. We saw what a rusty rose brought to the table at the start of the season, how does that help the team?

Play this year without him and hopefully he's 100% for next season. With or without him they're 2nd round at best this season..

[guy]

Exactly. I wonder what guys like Noah think about Rose hanging them out to dry like this.

In a recent interview, I think with Bill Simmons, Noah was talking about winning a title and without being pushed he said he really wanted to win one for Rose and then went on to talk about how great of a person Rose is. So with that said, I don't think he blames him at all. And how could you anyway? Not that long after his comeback he suffered another season ending injury.

[guy]

As a Bulls fan, I hope he does. First off, I want it so it increases our chance in the playoffs, but also if he gets hurt again, I'd rather not have my hopes up over the summer :(

I think he may come back. This injury supposedly isn't as serious as the previous one and I think maybe this might make him realize that no matter how long you take time out, injuries can still happen regardless. Despite this injury, I don't think anyone actually thinks Rose should've sat out even longer. On top of that, he might realize he might not get anymore of these opportunities. If he sits out again, this will be the third straight year his team was in the playoffs and he had to miss out. Who knows, maybe he might also feel the need to play so he can show potential FAs (Melo) that they don't have to worry about him getting hurt again.

[buddha]

I don't even think he will be back next year.

[NumberSix]

I'm not sure Rose will come back next year.

[fpliii]

If he can play, and the doctors don't think there's a chance of reinjury, give him some reps this season.

That way there won't be as much uneasiness next year with him getting re-acclimated.