Harden & Westbrook: If Switched Teams, Which Team Would Be Better?

[Foster5k]

If James Harden and Russell Westbrook switched teams, right now, which team would be better?

[Quickening]

Difficult to say... Westbrook is a top 5 player in the game, Harden top 10.

[Jameerthefear]

Difficult to say... Westbrook is a top 5 player in the game, Harden top 10.
Westbrook isn't top 5.

[Quickening]

Westbrook isn't top 5.

Yes he is, the guy is an absolute beast.

[Jameerthefear]

Lebron
Durant
CP3
Griffin
Melo
are all better players

[Quickening]

Lebron
Durant
CP3
Griffin
Melo
are all better players

Melo is not a better all round player than Westbrook... Westbrook has high energy on attack and defence.

[Jameerthefear]

Melo is not a better all round player than Westbrook... Westbrook has high energy on attack and defence.
The difference defensively is not enough to separate the difference offensively.

[Quickening]

The difference defensively is not enough to separate the difference offensively.
in your opinion

[Jameerthefear]

in your opinion
No. I am right. You are wrong.
Anyways I think that it's about tied. Houston would miss Harden's 3-point shooting and 4th quarter scoring, while OKC would miss WB's defense.

[LONGTIME]

What's Blake's no defense playing ass doing on a top 5 list? :oldlol:

[BlackWhiteGreen]

OKC, because Reggie Jackson >> whatever trash Houston would be playing at SG

[FKAri]

No. I am right. You are wrong.

ISH discussions in a nutshell :lol

[Milbuck]

OKC would be just fine, considering how well they did without Westbrook. The Rockets would be much, much better. Westbrook plays defense, can run a much better offense that could get Lin, Asik, Parsons, and Dwight even better buckets. All while being a more dynamic scorer. If you pack the paint and guard him tight on 3's with a long defender, you could potentially shut down Harden. There is no way to shut down Westbrook except Westbrook himself. He's just a force of nature.

[ralph_i_el]

both teams. Okc gets more minutes for reggie jax+harden+durant, Rockets get a slightly better player.

[Jameerthefear]

OKC would be just fine, considering how well they did without Westbrook. The Rockets would be much, much better. Westbrook plays defense, can run a much better offense that could get Lin, Asik, Parsons, and Dwight even better buckets. All while being a more dynamic scorer. If you pack the paint and guard him tight on 3's with a long defender, you could potentially shut down Harden. There is no way to shut down Westbrook except Westbrook himself. He's just a force of nature.
What are you talking about? How does Westbrook get the team better shots? Harden is the better fastbreak scorer and Westbrook may have a very slight edge on taking his man off the dribble, but that is completely disregarded when you realize that Harden is the far better shooter.

[Fudge]

What are you talking about? How does Westbrook get the team better shots? Harden is the better fastbreak scorer and Westbrook may have a very slight edge on taking his man off the dribble, but that is completely disregarded when you realize that Harden is the far better shooter.
:oldlol:

Don't speak on what you don't know, kiddo.

[YouGotServed]

lol @ thinking Westbrook gets his teammates better shots. He's a known low-iq chucker who constantly hinders Durants actual value. No thanks, OKC can keep him.

[ralph_i_el]

lol @ thinking Westbrook gets his teammates better shots. He's a known low-iq chucker who constantly hinders Durants actual value. No thanks, OKC can keep him.
"known" by idiots. It's 2014 not 2010

[YouGotServed]

"known" by idiots. It's 2014 not 2010

No, he's a low IQ chucking "point guard" even in 2014.

[ralph_i_el]

No, he's a low IQ chucking "point guard" even in 2014.

Actually he's turbo powered, rim-destroying evil demon of a bball player with a killers mindset. You on the other hand, are a hater

[Smook A.]

Yes he is, the guy is an absolute beast.
Yeah an absolute beast of a retard. He's a great player but his basketball IQ is not good.

He played a great game vs the Suns 2 nights ago but at the end of the game he took the stupidest shots. He was chucking and bricking them threes

[Quickening]

Yeah an absolute beast of a retard. He's a great player but his basketball IQ is not good.

He played a great game vs the Suns 2 nights ago but at the end of the game he took the stupidest shots. He was chucking and bricking them threes

And a lot of people have Kobe in their top 10 ever, he is renowned for low IQ shots.

[Smook A.]

And a lot of people have Kobe in their top 10 ever, he is renowned for low IQ shots.
I have Kobe in my top 15 on the all-time list

[Quickening]

I have Kobe in my top 15 on the all-time list

Thanks for letting me know

[Smook A.]

Thanks for letting me know
Np :pimp:

[Milbuck]

:oldlol: People still want to act like Westbrook is this low IQ little shit building the great wall of china? He's a top 2 PG in the game, deal with it.

Dude just had back-to-back games of a triple double in 20 minutes, and a 36/9/9/4 game.

[Smook A.]

:oldlol: People still want to act like Westbrook is this low IQ little shit building the great wall of china? He's a top 2 PG in the game, deal with it.

Dude just had back-to-back games of a triple double in 20 minutes, and a 36/9/9/4 game.
He's good but you gotta admit... he can be hella stupid sometimes

[ralph_i_el]

He's good but you gotta admit... he can be hella stupid sometimes

When you play balls-out 100% of the time sometimes you get out of control. I'll take the effort and live with the mistakes

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

If James Harden and Russell Westbrook switched teams, right now, which team would be better?

Harden is the more efficient offensive player while Westbrook is the better all around player. No doubt I would take Westbrook as I think he could lead his own team better than Harden can.

You can't measure everything Westbrook does on the statsheet. He has the motor of someone like Noah and that is pretty good trait to have. Honestly if there was a 50/50 ball in the air who would you bet on getting it? Westbrook or Harden?

[Milbuck]

Harden is the more efficient offensive player while Westbrook is the better all around player. No doubt I would take Westbrook as I think he could lead his own team better than Harden can.

You can't measure everything Westbrook does on the statsheet. He has the motor of someone like Noah and that is pretty good trait to have. Honestly if there was a 50/50 ball in the air who would you bet on getting it? Westbrook or Harden?
As I was reading this, the only thing I could think of was this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYa3csXve10

[Jameerthefear]

No doubt I would take Westbrook as I think he could lead his own team better than Harden can.

You can't measure everything Westbrook does on the statsheet. He has the motor of someone like Noah and that is pretty good trait to have. Honestly if there was a 50/50 ball in the air who would you bet on getting it? Westbrook or Harden?
Based on what?

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

Based on what?

These questions are all based on opinions and assumptions. Obviously we can't prove it because it hasn't happened. I just like him more as an overall player over Harden.

[Jameerthefear]

These questions are all based on opinions and assumptions. Obviously we can't prove it because it hasn't happened. I just like him more as an overall player over Harden.
True. But we already saw what Harden can do when he lead his team to the playoffs last year.

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

True. But we already saw what Harden can do when he lead his team to the playoffs last year.

Yeah he lost in the first round...and disappeared in the finals vs Miami when he was on OKC

[YouGotServed]

Yeah he lost in the first round...and disappeared in the finals vs Miami when he was on OKC

:facepalm

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

:facepalm


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Shade8780]

ISH discussions in a nutshell :lol
:lol

[ABfor3]

Yeah he lost in the first round...and disappeared in the finals vs Miami when he was on OKC
For it being the first year of him running his own team, he did okay. I mean OKC without Westbrook was still stacked especially with the roster the Rockets had..and the Finals against the heat is overplayed, harden was a big reason why the Thunder even made it there, he did work against the Spurs.

[ImKobe]

I think Houston would be better overall. Westbrook can match Harden's productivity on offense, possibly even better + he's a much better defenisve player than Harden.

Westbrook is averaging 22 6 7 on 44% shooting this year following 3 surgeries & as a 2nd option with career low mpg, Harden's averaging 25 5 6 on 46% shooting as a 1st option with about 6 more minutes a game without major injuries. There's no doubt in my mind that a healthy Westbrook is better than Harden.

[ImKobe]

For it being the first year of him running his own team, he did okay. I mean OKC without Westbrook was still stacked especially with the roster the Rockets had..and the Finals against the heat is overplayed, harden was a big reason why the Thunder even made it there, he did work against the Spurs.

Though he played a big part against the Spurs, he totally disappeared in the Finals. 12 ppg on 38% shooting, are you serious?

[ABfor3]

Though he played a big part against the Spurs, he totally disappeared in the Finals. 12 ppg on 38% shooting, are you serious?
The Big Show, his first appearance..against LeBron and Wade..? I think it was expected. He was only 22 in that series, Come on son

[ImKobe]

The Big Show, his first appearance..against LeBron and Wade..? I think it was expected. He was only 22 in that series, Come on son

Who cares? Miami choked the year prior. He did well against an experienced Spurs squad & destroyed Manu. He completely choked in the Finals. Even Chalmers outplayed him in that series.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Rockets would blow OKC outta that water.
Harden and Durant both are arm flailing fakkits who have the same skillset and harden doesnt play defense.
Lin could start for the Rockets again and him Westbrook and Dwight would dominate the ball while Parsons and Jones cut play off the ball and hustle.
this team would be unbeatable and the backcourt would blow any other in the league out of the water on both defense and offense as well as athletecism:applause: :applause:

[SCdac]

KD + Westbrook I think is a tougher cover, more dynamic, better defense

[ABfor3]

Who cares? Miami choked the year prior. He did well against an experienced Spurs squad & destroyed Manu. He completely choked in the Finals. Even Chalmers outplayed him in that series.
Exactly my point, Miami choked the year prior. It was their first run together, same for Harden. I bet any money that if the Rockets make it to the finals he will post up much better stats.

[Smook A.]

Who cares? Miami choked the year prior. He did well against an experienced Spurs squad & destroyed Manu. He completely choked in the Finals. Even Chalmers outplayed him in that series.
What do you mean WHO CARES?? What did you think when 22 YEAR OLD Kobe in the 2000 nba finals averaged 15 ppg on 37% shooting... and you're bashing Harden for struggling in the finals. :facepalm

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Exactly my point, Miami choked the year prior. It was their first run together, same for Harden. I bet any money that if the Rockets make it to the finals he will post up much better stats.
harden choked the next year too. against a Westbrook less OKC after game 2 he only had one good game the entire series were he was burning from 3.
19 PPG on 39% FG.
the fuq is that:biggums: :biggums:

[Smook A.]

harden choked the next year too. against a Westbrook less OKC after game 2 he only had one good game the entire series were he was burning from 3.
19 PPG on 39% FG.
the fuq is that:biggums: :biggums:
Where the hell did you get 19 ppg from??

He averaged 26.3 ppg in the OKC series not 19.... lmfao

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Where the hell did you get 19 ppg from??

He averaged 26.3 ppg in the OKC series not 19.... lmfao
damn got that wrong.:facepalm
he was still TERRIBLE:roll: :roll: :roll:

[k0kakw0rld]

Lebron
Durant
Love
Westbrook
Wade
Fixed.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Fixed.
LMFAO @Wade being top 5 :roll: :roll: :oldlol: :biggums: :biggums: :coleman:

[Smook A.]

Fixed.
How is Wade top 5?

Here is the real list
1. Durant
2. LeBron
3. Love
4. Griffin
5. Carmelo

I put Carmelo because he's putting up 28/8/3. It has nothing to do with team record. He's a great player

[oarabbus]

Westbrook > Harden

Sorry boys, this is the one and only truth. It may actually be nice for both teams since Harden will defer a bit more to KD, but Houston undoubtedly gets better with Westbrook.

[Jameerthefear]

How is Love a top 5 player? He straight up doesn't play defense. There are two sides to the game.

[Smook A.]

How is Love a top 5 player? He straight up doesn't play defense. There are two sides to the game.
Yes but he is averaging some amazing numbers

[ABfor3]

How is Love a top 5 player? He straight up doesn't play defense. There are two sides to the game.
This. If Harden Is getting bashed for no defense then so should Love, he's an undersized power forward who puts up empty stats.

[ABfor3]

Yes but he is averaging some amazing numbers
Timberwolves should be in the playoffs with those numbers and it's not like they have a bad team, they have a good cast.

[oarabbus]

This. If Harden Is getting bashed for no defense then so should Love, he's an undersized power forward who puts up empty stats.


Well... yes but you're missing the point. The Twolves aren't even a playoff team (I agree they should be one though) and were never even talked about as more than a 1st round exit if lucky. You guys have been touted as possible contenders since before this season started.

It's only fair for Harden to be held to a higher standard than Love... Harden is the one leading a contending team, not Love.

[Jameerthefear]

This. If Harden Is getting bashed for no defense then so should Love, he's an undersized power forward who puts up empty stats.
Yeah and Harden isn't even as bad as Love. On-ball he's very solid, but he's lazy as hell and loses his defender off ball on picks a lot. I think he'll change it in the playoffs.

[YouGotServed]

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Cry more.

[ABfor3]

Well... yes but you're missing the point. The Twolves aren't even a playoff team (I agree they should be one though) and were never even talked about as more than a 1st round exit if lucky. You guys have been touted as possible contenders since before this season started.

It's only fair for Harden to be held to a higher standard than Love... Harden is the one leading a contending team, not Love.
True, but what happened last year, people wrote off the Rockets as a lottery team beginning of the season and Harden brought them to the playoffs with Chandler Parsons as a second option. This year, he has them fighting for the third seed maybe second and people still talk down on him. I understand the defense but the dude deserves some respect, he's done nothing but turn the organization back into relevance

[imdaman99]

Harden is good but he doesn't keep anyone up the night before.
Goatbrook keeps opposing PGs sleepless and sometimes even Durant :rockon: