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Shade8780
03-08-2014, 03:27 PM
Just finished there. Didnt see the game but that box score :eek: West Virginia still ended up winning though.

Fudge
03-08-2014, 03:27 PM
Number one pick, easily.

buddha
03-08-2014, 03:28 PM
is he good? can LeBron get him?

GOBB
03-08-2014, 03:29 PM
Yeah no college forum here, weird for a basketball site that claims to be #1

DuMa
03-08-2014, 03:30 PM
video?

Twiens
03-08-2014, 03:30 PM
Watched it, he was unreal. Almost brought them back from 20-25 down by himself. If only he wasn't playing with a couple dumbass pg's :facepalm

Le Shaqtus
03-08-2014, 03:30 PM
What!? Holy shit thats crazy

HomieWeMajor
03-08-2014, 03:30 PM
Whichever team gets him needs to allow him to statpad for the first few years of his career a la Jordan/James to build up his resume . Winning games can come later.

Shade8780
03-08-2014, 03:31 PM
Yeah no college forum here, weird for a basketball site that claims to be #1
There is, but not that many people look there. Lots more people will see it here.

Shade8780
03-08-2014, 03:31 PM
And people were saying they'd take Jabari over him :oldlol:

Quickening
03-08-2014, 03:32 PM
empty stats

TylerOO
03-08-2014, 03:32 PM
I don't watch much college ball but isn't 40 points in a game ridiculous?

Le Shaqtus
03-08-2014, 03:33 PM
I don't watch much college ball but isn't 40 points in a game ridiculous?

It ain't nothin to sniff at

BlackWhiteGreen
03-08-2014, 03:33 PM
I'd still be wary taking him at #1. But then, I'd be wary taking Embiid or Parker at this point with #1, for now, I'd almost be happier getting #2 so I didn't have to make the decision.


There is, but not that many people look there. Lots more people will see it here.

:oldlol:

BasedTom
03-08-2014, 03:34 PM
empty stats
His team was getting blown the **** out for the vast majority of the game but he sparked a pretty big run to at least give them a chance. They were within 5 or so when it looked at one point that Kansas would lose by 30

"Empty stats" doesn't apply here

Lebron23
03-08-2014, 03:36 PM
I don't watch much college ball but isn't 40 points in a game ridiculous?


it's very impressive. they only play 40 minutes per qame in college basketball.

JtotheIzzo
03-08-2014, 03:36 PM
I'd still be wary taking him at #1. But then, I'd be wary taking Embiid or Parker at this point with #1, for now, I'd almost be happier getting #2 so I didn't have to make the decision.



:oldlol:


that's cuz you a:

http://www.greeknstuff.com/images/GreekLetters/beta1.GIF

Smook A.
03-08-2014, 03:36 PM
Scoring 40 in college = Scoring 60 in the NBA

of course its a big deal

sammichoffate
03-08-2014, 03:37 PM
That potential doe :bowdown:

senelcoolidge
03-08-2014, 03:38 PM
Game of his career. Probably life.

Fudge
03-08-2014, 03:38 PM
empty stats
This is how you know when clowns don't watch a single minute of a game. Just your typical Miami Heat fan boxscore watcher. :lol

JtotheIzzo
03-08-2014, 03:39 PM
Game of his career. Probably life.

Getting to know your posts, you seem really dumb.

Quickening
03-08-2014, 03:39 PM
His team was getting blown the **** out for the vast majority of the game but he sparked a pretty big run to at least give them a chance. They were within 5 or so when it looked at one point that Kansas would lose by 30

"Empty stats" doesn't apply here

So he scored lots in garbage time... like I said.



































































empty stats

Baliod
03-08-2014, 03:40 PM
Scoring 40 in college = Scoring 60 in the NBA

of course its a big deal

actually 40 points is equivalent to about 49 or 50 points, but good nevertheless. The rest of his stats are just as impressive as the points scored though imo

JtotheIzzo
03-08-2014, 03:40 PM
So he scored lots in garbage time... like I said.

empty stats

There was no garbage time in this game.

ZoPunde
03-08-2014, 03:40 PM
You should have probably posted this in "College and High School Basketball Forum".

Shade8780
03-08-2014, 03:41 PM
You should have probably posted this in "College and High School Basketball Forum".
nah.

Milbuck
03-08-2014, 03:42 PM
Most irritating part about this guy...

He'll do this, then next game he could look totally lost out there and put up single digits.

He has the potential to be so ****ing good

Ancient Legend
03-08-2014, 03:44 PM
He looks like a deranged Avery Johnson.

JtotheIzzo
03-08-2014, 03:44 PM
actually 40 points is equivalent to about 49 or 50 points, but good nevertheless. The rest of his stats are just as impressive as the points scored though imo


You didn't factor in the 11 more seconds on the shot clock into your math.

It is about possessions, not game clock.

fail.

BigTicket
03-08-2014, 03:45 PM
He lead his team in every category. :applause:

However, the fact that 2 assists was a team high, might just have something to do with the fact that they lost ...

JtotheIzzo
03-08-2014, 03:45 PM
He looks like a deranged Avery Johnson.

lacks humor, irony or accuracy, not even an insult, it is almost like you just typed a random basketball player and a bunch of words.

DonDadda59
03-08-2014, 03:47 PM
Scoring 40 in college = Scoring 60 in the NBA

:whatever:

Michael Beasley had 3 40-point games in his freshman year. Adam Morrison had 5.

I don't remember either of them coming remotely close to scoring 60 in the pros.

Milbuck
03-08-2014, 03:47 PM
lacks humor, irony or accuracy, not even an insult, it is almost like you just typed a random basketball player and a bunch of words.
http://hbcudigest.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/alg-nets-avery-johnson-jpg.jpeg

http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/andrew-wiggins-kansas-3.jpg

I don't really see the resemblance, but I don't think he just "typed a random basketball player and a bunch of words".

sammichoffate
03-08-2014, 03:51 PM
http://hbcudigest.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/alg-nets-avery-johnson-jpg.jpeg

http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/andrew-wiggins-kansas-3.jpg

I don't really see the resemblance, but I don't think he just "typed a random basketball player and a bunch of words".Forgot about the part where others would care about his opinion :oldlol:

Smook A.
03-08-2014, 03:52 PM
:whatever:

Michael Beasley had 3 40-point games in his freshman year. Adam Morrison had 5.

I don't remember either of them coming remotely close to scoring 60 in the pros.
Yeah thats because they sucked in the NBA.

Im saying that scoring 40 in the college gets the same hype as scoring 60 in the nba.

Ancient Legend
03-08-2014, 03:52 PM
http://hbcudigest.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/alg-nets-avery-johnson-jpg.jpeg

http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/andrew-wiggins-kansas-3.jpg

I don't really see the resemblance, but I don't think he just "typed a random basketball player and a bunch of words".

Even the same sideburns.

JtotheIzzo
03-08-2014, 03:53 PM
http://hbcudigest.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/alg-nets-avery-johnson-jpg.jpeg

http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/andrew-wiggins-kansas-3.jpg

I don't really see the resemblance, but I don't think he just "typed a random basketball player and a bunch of words".

black dude with a chlnky eyed smile, is that hard to find now?

Avery Johnson is a jacked midget while Wiggins is a 6'7" greyhound, not really that similar.

JohnMax
03-08-2014, 03:56 PM
http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/andrew-wiggins-kansas-3.jpg

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/51aa2cbe6bb3f7b475000017/lebron-james-hair-like-youve-never-seen-it-before.jpg

http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Lebron-James-High-School-photos-019.jpg

JimmyMcAdocious
03-08-2014, 04:00 PM
Put it this way, you are happy if your #2 in college averages about 13-15 ppg. #1 about 16+. Especially on good teams where there's obviously more balanced scoring. The leading scorer on non shitty conference teams is TJ Warren of NC State and he averages 24. And he does that as practically the only offensive option on his team.

DonDadda59
03-08-2014, 04:01 PM
http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Lebron-James-High-School-photos-019.jpg

Is Bronze wearing Bean's sneakers? :eek:

Things were like bricks.

Jameerthefear
03-08-2014, 04:03 PM
Your move, Hennigan.

alenleomessi
03-08-2014, 04:04 PM
:applause:

D-FENS
03-08-2014, 04:10 PM
Yeah no college forum here, weird for a basketball site that claims to be #1

You know as well as anyone that RealGM is number 1 in terms of posts per day and forum participation. It's just a shame that it's run like something out of an Orwell novel.

ArbitraryWater
03-08-2014, 04:10 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiOn0X2CQAA3yYo.jpg

Any Videos of the Game??

D-FENS
03-08-2014, 04:15 PM
I'm not sure which one he looks more like:
http://torontoburgh.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/andrew-wiggins-parents.jpg

Probably his mom:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/obj/001064/f1/0820payne6-v6.jpg
She may be cold, but it's getting hot in here

secund2nun
03-08-2014, 04:16 PM
Number one pick, easily.

Wiggins has potential, but it's just one game. Any player can explode for one game. His season as a whole has been unimpressive. You could argue he should be the #1 pick based on potential, but it's not easy and I'd take Embiid and Parker over him. I think his potential is overrated.

Look at what high level talents have done in their first year in college:

Durant:........................26/11 on 47/40
Carmelo:.....................22/10 on 45/34
Griffin (first year):........15/9 on 57%
Davis:..........................14/10/5 on 62% plus great defense
Love:...........................18/11 on 56%

Wiggins:.......................16/6 on 44/34 (will increase some after today though)


The impact is just not there. I just can't see him making just a huge leap from that to NBA superstar at any point in the future.

BlackWhiteGreen
03-08-2014, 04:17 PM
that's cuz you a:

http://www.greeknstuff.com/images/GreekLetters/beta1.GIF

:oldlol: probably. Rather than than be an alpha Chris Grant tho

ImKobe
03-08-2014, 04:20 PM
Lakers will be happy to have him

JimmyMcAdocious
03-08-2014, 04:21 PM
Wiggins has potential, but it's just one game. Any player can explode for one game. His season as a whole has been unimpressive. You could argue he should be the #1 pick based on potential, but it's not easy and I'd take Embiid and Parker over him. I think his potential is overrated.

Look at what high level talents have done in their first year in college:

Durant:........................26/11 on 47/40
Carmelo:.....................22/10 on 45/34
Griffin (first year):........15/9 on 57%
Davis:..........................14/10/5 on 62% plus great defense
Love:...........................18/11 on 56%

Wiggins:.......................16/6 on 44/34 (will increase some after today though)


The impact is just not there. I just can't see him making just a huge leap from that to NBA superstar at any point in the future.

Why are you comparing bigmen to a wing? Durant and Melo are fine, but seriously Kevin Love with Andrew Wiggins? :wtf: That's like saying Embiid isn't legit because he's not putting up the same stats as John Wall did.

Also Wiggins is a 2/3. Closest is Durant on that list, and they are different prospects. Durant was an offensive machine. Wiggins is known to be a defensive machine who needs to improve offensively.

alenleomessi
03-08-2014, 04:24 PM
Wiggins has potential, but it's just one game. Any player can explode for one game. His season as a whole has been unimpressive. You could argue he should be the #1 pick based on potential, but it's not easy and I'd take Embiid and Parker over him. I think his potential is overrated.

Look at what high level talents have done in their first year in college:

Durant:........................26/11 on 47/40
Carmelo:.....................22/10 on 45/34
Griffin (first year):........15/9 on 57%
Davis:..........................14/10/5 on 62% plus great defense
Love:...........................18/11 on 56%

Wiggins:.......................16/6 on 44/34 (will increase some after today though)


The impact is just not there. I just can't see him making just a huge leap from that to NBA superstar at any point in the future.
whats your points? mj had similar numbers to wiggins

ImKobe
03-08-2014, 04:25 PM
Why are you comparing bigmen to a wing? Durant and Melo are fine, but seriously Kevin Love with Andrew Wiggins? :wtf: That's like saying Embiid isn't legit because he's not putting up the same stats as John Wall did.

This. Plus, those guys didn't play in the same system. College stats are irrelevant anyways. For instance, MJ put up 13.5 ppg 4.4 rpg 1.8 apg on 53% shooting as a freshman, the hell are people judging players based on their college stats?

Shade8780
03-08-2014, 04:26 PM
Wiggins has potential, but it's just one game. Any player can explode for one game. His season as a whole has been unimpressive. You could argue he should be the #1 pick based on potential, but it's not easy and I'd take Embiid and Parker over him. I think his potential is overrated.

Look at what high level talents have done in their first year in college:

Durant:........................26/11 on 47/40
Carmelo:.....................22/10 on 45/34
Griffin (first year):........15/9 on 57%
Davis:..........................14/10/5 on 62% plus great defense
Love:...........................18/11 on 56%

Wiggins:.......................16/6 on 44/34 (will increase some after today though)


The impact is just not there. I just can't see him making just a huge leap from that to NBA superstar at any point in the future.
Paul George only averaged 14/4 his first year in college, 17/7 in his second. MJ only averaged 14/4 his first year. Some people are more developed than others, doesnt mean they'll be better in the future.

Not comparing Wiggins to MJ btw.

moe94
03-08-2014, 04:29 PM
Jesus Christ. How did I miss this? God damn.

secund2nun
03-08-2014, 04:47 PM
Why are you comparing bigmen to a wing? Durant and Melo are fine, but seriously Kevin Love with Andrew Wiggins? :wtf: That's like saying Embiid isn't legit because he's not putting up the same stats as John Wall did.

Also Wiggins is a 2/3. Closest is Durant on that list, and they are different prospects. Durant was an offensive machine. Wiggins is known to be a defensive machine who needs to improve offensively.

I don't expect a wing to have the same stats as a big man, but wing players have their own statistically impressive lines like Durant and Melo in college and Wiggin's are really lacking in that department and even in HS he was criticized for blending into many games making little impact. I posted all of those players to show impact in general. Durant's and Melo's college performances show impact even when compared to big men while Wiggins doesn't.

16/6 on 44/34 is blah no matter what position you are unless you are talking about a role player.

Here are some first year SG performances in college:

Harden: 18-5-3-2 on 53/41
Wade: 18-7-3.5-2.5-1 on 49/35

Wiggins: 16-6-2-1-1 on 44/34

ImKobe
03-08-2014, 04:50 PM
I don't expect a wing to have the same stats as a big man, but wing players have their own statistically impressive lines like Durant and Melo in college and Wiggin's are really lacking in that department and even in HS he was criticized for blending into many games making little impact. I posted all of those players to show impact in general. Durant's and Melo's college performances show impact even when compared to big men while Wiggins doesn't.

16/6 on 44/34 is blah no matter what position you are unless you are talking about a role player.

Here are some first year SG performances in college:

Harden: 18-5-3-2 on 53/41
Wade: 18-7-3.5-2.5-1 on 49/35

Wiggins: 16-6-2-1-1 on 44/34

now put up MJ's freshman stats

I guess Harden/Wade > MJ, right? :facepalm

Dave3
03-08-2014, 04:52 PM
Paul George only averaged 14/4 his first year in college, 17/7 in his second. MJ only averaged 14/4 his first year. Some people are more developed than others, doesnt mean they'll be better in the future.

Not comparing Wiggins to MJ btw.
And some players have an easier time adapting to the NBA level than to the college level. His primary scoring will be coming from drives, and the smaller court/less spacing in the college game seems to be affecting him a little bit because his handles and ball security aren't quite robust yet. He gets stripped quite a bit, and often times you see he feels a little trapped at the elbows with nowhere to go because there are too many players around him. The NBA game will open up those opportunities more for him.

From what I see from his game, he's going to average slightly more points in his rookie year in the NBA (18/19 ppg), but on very poor shooting (about 41%). Despite his athleticism, he's not a great finisher, and actually misses a lot of shots at the basket. He also makes some questionable decisions going to the basket, opting to shoot straight into a defender rather than slip around and lay it in.

His shot is also very streaky. Today and against Florida he would hit like 3 straight tough jumpers in a row to attempt to bring his team back, but he'll have games where his shot is very off, and he might end up with like 7 points on 2-9 shooting. This type of inconsistency isn't representative of the type of player he can become. He seems to only play well when his team needs it, and also if the other players are feeding him the ball, otherwise he just stands around waiting for stuff to happen instead of making it happen. Even in this game he didn't really start forcing the issue till his team was down by like 20. He needs to provide a consistent effort throughout the game and in all games. Like Milbuck said, his next game he might put up single digits (actually quite likely) given his struggles with consistency.

I'm not sure if it's the coaching or his mental game, but something needs to get him to play to his potential on a nightly basis if he is to ever become a star (and even superstar) in the NBA.

Eric Cartman
03-08-2014, 04:53 PM
now put up MJ's freshman stats

I guess Harden/Wade > MJ, right? :facepalm

In their freshman year, absolutely. Obviously what happens after makes it completely the opposite.

secund2nun
03-08-2014, 04:55 PM
Paul George only averaged 14/4 his first year in college, 17/7 in his second. MJ only averaged 14/4 his first year. Some people are more developed than others, doesnt mean they'll be better in the future.

Not comparing Wiggins to MJ btw.

If Wiggins ends up only as good as Paul George then he will end up being a huge bust.

Paul George in college went 14/6/2/2/1 on 47/44 which is similar but better than Wiggin's performance simply because of the 47/44 vs 44/34.....but Paul George is 23 and is putting up 22/6.5/3.5 on 43/37 in his 4th year in the NBA. He is not even a star. Honestly from what I have seen from Wiggins in HS and college I expect a Paul George caliber player.

MJ is just an anomaly and at least he shot 53.5% in his first year.

longtime lurker
03-08-2014, 04:55 PM
:applause: he'll look good in a Lakers uniform. Only thing that concerns me about the kid is his motor.

secund2nun
03-08-2014, 04:58 PM
now put up MJ's freshman stats

I guess Harden/Wade > MJ, right? :facepalm

The MJ case was very rare. Relying on the MJ exception to the rule is like expecting a 6th round pick to turn into Tom Brady.

ImKobe
03-08-2014, 04:58 PM
In their freshman year, absolutely. Obviously what happens after makes it completely the opposite.

My point was that you simply can't compare college stats. There have been plenty of great college players that never even make it to the NBA. College stats are irrelevant. Wiggins is a top prospect for a reason.

Adam Morrison averaged 28 ppg in college, he was a scrub in the NBA.

Twiens
03-08-2014, 05:00 PM
Wiggins would easily average 20+ if he ended up at FSU though. This system is built completely around the post....Wiggins is basically a spot up shooter in self's system. He'll be an animal in the NBA.

ImKobe
03-08-2014, 05:00 PM
The MJ case was very rare. Relying on the MJ exception to the rule is like expecting a 6th round pick to turn into Tom Brady.

Seriously? College stats hardly mean anything. How many great college players never even made it to the NBA? It's a whole different ball game in the NBA.

Fudge
03-08-2014, 05:00 PM
second2nun :roll:

ace23
03-08-2014, 05:00 PM
No killer instinct, plays within the team concept too much, can't create for others. Not seeing the hype.

That said, the box score is impressive, wish I'd seen the game.

ImKobe
03-08-2014, 05:01 PM
Wiggins would easily average 20+ if he ended up at FSU though. This system is built completely around the post....Wiggins is basically a spot up shooter in self's system. He'll be an animal in the NBA.

This guy gets it. Wiggins could take over against any team if he was used in the way that benefited him the most, he's by far the most talented player in the NCAA right now.

longtime lurker
03-08-2014, 05:02 PM
second2nun :roll:

I can't believe anyone takes the guy seriously. If Wiggins ends up as good as Paul George he's a huge bust! LMAO

ace23
03-08-2014, 05:03 PM
Selden is better than Wiggins right now.

secund2nun
03-08-2014, 05:11 PM
Seriously? College stats hardly mean anything. How many great college players never even made it to the NBA? It's a whole different ball game in the NBA.

Great college players becoming busts in the NBA is another story. That is common. I am not arguing against that.

But with Wiggins its a completely different thing- it would be a mediocre college player turning into a superstar in the NBA (and that is very very rare). Even a mediocre college player turning into a star is rare.

secund2nun
03-08-2014, 05:16 PM
I can't believe anyone takes the guy seriously. If Wiggins ends up as good as Paul George he's a huge bust! LMAO

Yes he would be based on the hype and expectations Wiggins has received and still continues to receive. Wiggins is the most hyped and anticipated prospect since Lebron.

This thread is like the Paul George thread from November-December all over again. Posters are going crazy prematurely over a short stretch (in this case 1 game). I remember I got blasted for saying Paul George is not a top 10 player in the league.

secund2nun
03-08-2014, 05:17 PM
This guy gets it. Wiggins could take over against any team if he was used in the way that benefited him the most, he's by far the most talented player in the NCAA right now.


Wiggins had the same disappearing in high school as well, so it can't be blamed on his college system.

Lamar Odumbb
03-08-2014, 05:21 PM
:applause: he'll look good in a Lakers uniform. Only thing that concerns me about the kid is his motor.

His only weakness is his personality. I believe the NFL and some other sports use or have used an expert to determine winners from losers using some personality or demeanor traits and Wiggins seems to lack them. I mean look at Kobe and Lebron as 18 year olds, they were cocky as hell. Wiggins has the Kwame Brown and Elden Campbell laid back attitude, which Paul George also seems to have.



" Psychologists have studied championship athletes' personalities for decades and have settled on a few accepted summations: They are confident, assertive, extroverted and tough-minded. "

ImKobe
03-08-2014, 05:22 PM
Great college players becoming busts in the NBA is another story. That is common. I am not arguing against that.

But with Wiggins its a completely different thing- it would be a mediocre college player turning into a superstar in the NBA (and that is very very rare). Even a mediocre college player turning into a star is rare.

Your simply can't just compare college stats. Wiggins outplayed Parker h2h when he locked him down in the 2nd half and scored like 3-4 consecutive buckets in the clutch to win the game. & he just had 24 points in one half today.

Reef
03-08-2014, 05:37 PM
His only weakness is his personality. I believe the NFL and some other sports use or have used an expert to determine winners from losers using some personality or demeanor traits and Wiggins seems to lack them. I mean look at Kobe and Lebron as 18 year olds, they were cocky as hell. Wiggins has the Kwame Brown and Elden Campbell laid back attitude, which Paul George also seems to have.



" Psychologists have studied championship athletes' personalities for decades and have settled on a few accepted summations: They are confident, assertive, extroverted and tough-minded. "

Tim Duncan?

noob cake
03-08-2014, 05:38 PM
I love the selective sampling in this thread.

One good games where he didn't miss layups and was awarded 19 free throws with near superstar calls, this thread goes crazy.

20+ other crap games on mediocre efficiency, while missing jumpers and layups, all his supporters nowhere to be seen.

ArbitraryWater
03-08-2014, 05:43 PM
I can't believe anyone takes the guy seriously. If Wiggins ends up as good as Paul George he's a huge bust! LMAO

Actually the only thing I agreed with him on... George is your typical top 10-15 guy .. that not Wiggins ceiling, it shouldnt be

red1
03-08-2014, 05:45 PM
I love the selective sampling in this thread.

One good games where he didn't miss layups and was awarded 19 free throws with near superstar calls, this thread goes crazy.

20+ other crap games on mediocre efficiency, while missing jumpers and layups, all his supporters nowhere to be seen.
That bodes well for the future. If the nba can make harden a star then they will definitely be able to do the same for wiggins

Dave3
03-08-2014, 05:49 PM
I love the selective sampling in this thread.

One good games where he didn't miss layups and was awarded 19 free throws with near superstar calls, this thread goes crazy.

20+ other crap games on mediocre efficiency, while missing jumpers and layups, all his supporters nowhere to be seen.
Didn't miss layups? this game was prototypical of how he scores. Jumpers and free throws with the occasional floater/dunk while missing shots near the basket. Obviously this was his best game so he didn't miss many, but even in this thread supporters are citing the fact that he doesn't finish well and is inconsistent.

moe94
03-08-2014, 05:52 PM
I love the selective sampling in this thread.

One good games where he didn't miss layups and was awarded 19 free throws with near superstar calls, this thread goes crazy.

20+ other crap games on mediocre efficiency, while missing jumpers and layups, all his supporters nowhere to be seen.

http://flipocrisy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/hatehatehate.jpg

noob cake
03-08-2014, 05:54 PM
Tim Duncan?

You are saying Duncan is not confident, assertive, and tough-minded?

Not acting like like a retard on court doesn't make him extroverted by default.

noob cake
03-08-2014, 05:58 PM
Didn't miss layups? this game was prototypical of how he scores. Jumpers and free throws with the occasional floater/dunk while missing shots near the basket. Obviously this was his best game so he didn't miss many, but even in this thread supporters are citing the fact that he doesn't finish well and is inconsistent.

He finishes at a sub 40% clip all year long, and then manage to play a spectacular game scoring the ball.

What does this say about his finishing ability. Here are two choices for you:

1) Wiggins has finally become an elite finisher
2) Wiggins played the best game of his college career, but his finishing ability is still as bad as his last 25+ games.

Choose one :coleman:

ralph_i_el
03-08-2014, 06:10 PM
now put up MJ's freshman stats

I guess Harden/Wade > MJ, right? :facepalm

MJ played in a different time. Back then more players stayed and freshmen had to pay dues. Now things are different and these guys come in and are the focal point of an offense from day 1.

senelcoolidge
03-08-2014, 06:18 PM
I love the selective sampling in this thread.

One good games where he didn't miss layups and was awarded 19 free throws with near superstar calls, this thread goes crazy.

20+ other crap games on mediocre efficiency, while missing jumpers and layups, all his supporters nowhere to be seen.

So true. How typical of ISH for one guy to have one great/good game and they call him a superstar..and on the other side one guy has a bad game and he's sucks. HAHA. ISH has too many people with selective short attention spans.

Dave3
03-08-2014, 06:32 PM
He finishes at a sub 40% clip all year long, and then manage to play a spectacular game scoring the ball.

What does this say about his finishing ability. Here are two choices for you:

1) Wiggins has finally become an elite finisher
2) Wiggins played the best game of his college career, but his finishing ability is still as bad as his last 25+ games.

Choose one :coleman:
Has anyone in this thread at all chosen 1? He is a poor finisher and people who watch him know that. No one here is saying he's now a great finisher, they're just giving him props for a monster game...

Eric Cartman
03-08-2014, 06:34 PM
You are saying Duncan is not confident, assertive, and tough-minded?

Not acting like like a retard on court doesn't make him extroverted by default.

You mean introverted?

oarabbus
03-08-2014, 06:36 PM
Embiid still gonna be better doe

buddha
03-08-2014, 06:37 PM
Wiggins athleticism is overrated.

Rudy Gay at best.

veilside23
03-08-2014, 06:47 PM
Has anyone in this thread at all chosen 1? He is a poor finisher and people who watch him know that. No one here is saying he's now a great finisher, they're just giving him props for a monster game...


derozan was worst over all but look at derozan now.. Afflalo was just a good jumpshooter and an average defender back in college afflalo stayed longer in college and it took him a good amount of experience in the NBA to be the player he is now. i think you are being unfair thinking that wiggins = lebron .. they are not the same player. wiggins is not durant as well..

Wiggins will be wiggins in his own right . even terence ross scored 51 points in the nba ... how is that possible? ross in college is just a highlight reel .

veilside23
03-08-2014, 07:12 PM
Future Tyreke Evans/Rudy Gay
nothing impressive about a college player showing up once every blue moon. Embiid is the only sure thing on the sorry draft.

Hyped up players is all. ncaa is boring so they have to hype these scrubs


bookmarked :D

irondarts
03-08-2014, 07:15 PM
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/fzbohtagds5tlofry67f.gif

KyrieTheFuture
03-08-2014, 07:27 PM
What the **** why isn't this dunk a way bigger story on here?

noob cake
03-08-2014, 07:41 PM
You mean introverted?

Thanks for the correction. Logic fail.

inclinerator
03-08-2014, 07:45 PM
meh

noob cake
03-08-2014, 07:48 PM
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/fzbohtagds5tlofry67f.gif

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/2086421/corey-brewer-dunks-on-fisher-o.gif

secund2nun
03-08-2014, 08:10 PM
Your simply can't just compare college stats. Wiggins outplayed Parker h2h when he locked him down in the 2nd half and scored like 3-4 consecutive buckets in the clutch to win the game. & he just had 24 points in one half today.

You can compare college stats. You can't take them as everything, but they need to be at least good to be a NBA star, let alone a NBA superstar. The chances of a 16/6 44/34 player in college become a NBA superstar is almost impossible. The odds are stacked against him becoming a star as well. How's a kid who is shooting 44/34 in college gonna be a star in the NBA? 44/34 is mediocre in the NBA let alone in college and it's not like he is playing well in the other aspects of the game either.

moe94
03-08-2014, 08:28 PM
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/fzbohtagds5tlofry67f.gif

Shit is wonderful. :applause:

qrich
03-08-2014, 08:32 PM
Corey Maggette 2.0

Dave3
03-08-2014, 08:36 PM
derozan was worst over all but look at derozan now.. Afflalo was just a good jumpshooter and an average defender back in college afflalo stayed longer in college and it took him a good amount of experience in the NBA to be the player he is now. i think you are being unfair thinking that wiggins = lebron .. they are not the same player. wiggins is not durant as well..

Wiggins will be wiggins in his own right . even terence ross scored 51 points in the nba ... how is that possible? ross in college is just a highlight reel .
Exactly. Players improve and I do see Wiggins improving throughout his NBA career. I'm only commenting on the present though,

lpublic_enemyl
03-08-2014, 09:15 PM
empty stats
you need to watch the game before saying that. Andrew wiggins:bowdown:

CelticBaller
03-08-2014, 09:15 PM
He's a Celtic

Collie
03-08-2014, 09:25 PM
You can compare college stats. You can't take them as everything, but they need to be at least good to be a NBA star, let alone a NBA superstar. The chances of a 16/6 44/34 player in college become a NBA superstar is almost impossible. The odds are stacked against him becoming a star as well. How's a kid who is shooting 44/34 in college gonna be a star in the NBA? 44/34 is mediocre in the NBA let alone in college and it's not like he is playing well in the other aspects of the game either.

Westbrook averaged 12/4 in college. Rose averaged 14/5/5.

PieceOfFelt
03-08-2014, 09:32 PM
Where are dem highlights doe?

moe94
03-08-2014, 09:53 PM
Where are dem highlights doe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUi8nfK9M6o

Burgz V2
03-08-2014, 10:05 PM
So he scored lots in garbage time... like I said.

empty stats

:facepalm

Burgz V2
03-08-2014, 10:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUi8nfK9M6o

bookmarked only to remember to rep you

leopoldstotch
03-08-2014, 11:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUi8nfK9M6o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUi8nfK9M6o#t=1m18s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUi8nfK9M6o#t=2m48s

:bowdown: :bowdown:

leopoldstotch
03-08-2014, 11:16 PM
41 points from 18 field goals? talk about efficient.

BuffaloBill
03-08-2014, 11:23 PM
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/fzbohtagds5tlofry67f.gif


from behind 3 pt line to the rim in just 2 steps

GOBB
03-10-2014, 02:16 AM
No killer instinct, plays within the team concept too much, can't create for others. Not seeing the hype.

That said, the box score is impressive, wish I'd seen the game.

Judging from this post you should edit it and say you wish you actually watching Wiggins in college this season. Its conference title week, tune in. Not too late to start watching him.

GOBB
03-10-2014, 02:19 AM
noob cake is the same idiot who claims Jabari Parker is a better defender than Wiggins.


Future Tyreke Evans/Rudy Gay
nothing impressive about a college player showing up once every blue moon. Embiid is the only sure thing on the sorry draft.

Hyped up players is all. ncaa is boring so they have to hype these scrubs

He has a better jumper entering the draft than Tyreke Evans had. So I fail to see the "future" Evans remark. He's also a better perimeter defender than either player were in college or the pros. Granted thats a bit much to say given he hasnt defended anyone in the NBA. But I doubt he suddenly stops playing stellar defense as he has this season. Thanks for the misinformed post. :cheers:

Take Your Lumps
03-10-2014, 02:22 AM
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/fzbohtagds5tlofry67f.gif

Wow. He looks like a long jumper here....effortless.

JohnFreeman
03-10-2014, 02:22 AM
Embiid >

JimmyMcAdocious
03-10-2014, 02:41 AM
He runs like a 6-7 Darren Collison.

I wonder how much weight he's going to be able put on those shoulders.

Budadiiii
03-10-2014, 03:03 AM
After seeing his parents I have to say he will be a success in the NBA.

His mom was very athletic and has that natural poise. He will succeed because of his mothers' genetics.

:applause:

BoutPractice
03-10-2014, 09:13 AM
That dunk was something else.

There's something a bit eerie in the idea that in what looks to be a potentially game changing draft, both the Lakers and the Celtics could have a top pick... It's a funny coincidence at least.