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Magic731
03-10-2014, 06:04 AM
Doesn't seem so silly now does it. I remember he got blasted by many over that comment. Noah simply repaying that faith :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: goat teammates

YouGotServed
03-10-2014, 06:14 AM
lol. It still seems silly. Dwight is the best center in the NBA and is not even close.

TheReturn
03-10-2014, 06:30 AM
lol. It still seems silly. Dwight is the best center in the NBA and is not even close.
Depends on whether you measure by stats and raw athleticism or wins and deeper impact.

ImKobe
03-10-2014, 06:36 AM
lol. It still seems silly. Dwight is the best center in the NBA and is not even close.

Noah is a more versatile player than Dwight & a better all-around defender.

The dude is averaging 13 12 5 with 1.1 spg 1.6 bpg with a much higher DWS(despite having played less games) & WS/48 & has a better DRTG & ORTG(Dwight's should be much higher since he's playing on a loaded offensive team). Dwight could never shoot, pass nor defend like Noah, but he is a better scorer & slightly better at rebounding, his shot blocking has fallen off due to playing on run & gun teams. Despite Dwight improving from last season, his impact is still not as big as it was in Orlando.

Noah anchors the 2nd best defense in the league with a bunch of role players.

chairman
03-10-2014, 06:43 AM
Any legit bulls fan would've told you the same. Dwight is no where near as motivated and driven as Noah. So for that reason alone I would rather have a winner on my team then that loser.

YouGotServed
03-10-2014, 06:46 AM
lol

Bad time to talk about Ws considering Dwight's team has the best record in the league since January.

Dwight is the better player. To put him and Noah in the same sentence is an insult to Howard.

Jameerthefear
03-10-2014, 06:47 AM
lol bulls fans. how is noah more of a winner than dwight?

TrueBlue89
03-10-2014, 06:49 AM
Can't wait till Dwight owns Noah on Thursday. Too many HTX haters.

Magic731
03-10-2014, 07:05 AM
lol bulls fans. how is noah more of a winner than dwight?
Noah has won two NCAA championships and you only need to watch him to know he has that winning mentality. He has also said in interviews that all he cares about is winning rings as that I'd everything to him as opposed to Dwight who has openly said that he's already a "winner" and that he's already made it.... And here you are trying to argue Dwight is more of a winner???

YouGotServed
03-10-2014, 07:12 AM
I lol'd @ NCAA championships. Running out of material eh?

Dwight has the better stats and has won more in his NBA career than Noah. I don't understand why a 2nd tier center is being compared to one of the greatest centers of all time and a future HOFer.

Pretty disrespectful.

Rose'sACL
03-10-2014, 07:28 AM
i would take dwight over Noah. Noah is pretty good but dwight is still more valuable.

Magic731
03-10-2014, 07:44 AM
I lol'd @ NCAA championships. Running out of material eh?

Dwight has the better stats and has won more in his NBA career than Noah. I don't understand why a 2nd tier center is being compared to one of the greatest centers of all time and a future HOFer.

Pretty disrespectful.
It's disrespectful to refer to Noah as a 2nd tier center.

Real Men Wear Green
03-10-2014, 07:50 AM
The flaw in Howard that prevents him from being an all-time great center is his lack of offensive polish.Yet somehow people are starting to put Noah over him in spite of Noah being an inferior offensive player?

Bandito
03-10-2014, 07:54 AM
Dwight's better but Noah is not a team cancer, has great IQ and has a lot of heart. i will take him over Dwight in a heart beat.

Bandito
03-10-2014, 07:54 AM
The flaw in Howard that prevents him from being an all-time great center is his lack of offensive polish.Yet somehow people are starting to put Noah over him in spite of Noah being an inferior offensive player?
But Noah has heart though:roll:


But yeah Dwight's better.

Bandito
03-10-2014, 07:55 AM
I lol'd @ NCAA championships. Running out of material eh?

Dwight has the better stats and has won more in his NBA career than Noah. I don't understand why a 2nd tier center is being compared to one of the greatest centers of all time and a future HOFer.

Pretty disrespectful.
Bit of a stretch there, as he is not even a top 10 center all time.

Real Men Wear Green
03-10-2014, 08:51 AM
Noah is a better leader, which is what I'm guessing has people starting to talk him up but there's no way he could be the franchise player on a great team. Dwight Howard has led a team to the Finals. Noah will not get that far without a strong return by Rose or signing Melo in the offseason. This is what happens when one guy is viewed as an overachiever while another is thought to be an underachiever.

TheMan
03-10-2014, 10:26 AM
I lol'd @ NCAA championships. Running out of material eh?

Dwight has the better stats and has won more in his NBA career than Noah. I don't understand why a 2nd tier center is being compared to one of the greatest centers of all time and a future HOFer.

Pretty disrespectful.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3PPfW45YFJM/Swd1686lgBI/AAAAAAAAAjw/3YwhjQgshG8/s320/i-lol-d.jpg
We still talking about Dwight Howard, right?:oldlol:

Mr Exlax
03-10-2014, 10:30 AM
I think Dwight is still the best center in the game, but Noah is really showing he's got some skills. He's turned into more than just a hustle guy to me. I don't like him, but I like his game. Oh and Rose kinda has to say he'd rather Noah over Dwight since they're already on the same team lol

Marlo_Stanfield
03-10-2014, 10:32 AM
Remember the last time Rose played in an NBA game??? yeah me neither:lol :lol

TheMan
03-10-2014, 10:35 AM
Remember the last time Rose played in an NBA game??? yeah me neither:lol :lol
He played a few months ago:confusedshrug:

Jailblazers7
03-10-2014, 10:40 AM
If I were an NBA player, I would rather be on a team with Noah than Dwight. Dwight might be considered better when they are compared in a vacuum but leadership and team chemistry are extremely important.

Nick Young
03-10-2014, 10:43 AM
The flaw in Howard that prevents him from being an all-time great center is his lack of offensive polish.Yet somehow people are starting to put Noah over him in spite of Noah being an inferior offensive player?
Noah's defense>>>Dwights defense.

Dwight has not been DPoTY material or NBA first team defense material for about 3 years now. He is living off his reputation from a fluke finals run, and his game has regressed alot since then.

ralph_i_el
03-10-2014, 10:59 AM
I lol'd @ NCAA championships. Running out of material eh?

Dwight has the better stats and has won more in his NBA career than Noah. I don't understand why a 2nd tier center is being compared to one of the greatest centers of all time and a future HOFer.

Pretty disrespectful.

Yup everyone knows NCAA championships don't matter :facepalm especially back to back ones:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

I'd take Noah over Dwight as a defender. Then since you love stats so much how about those 3 extra dimes Noah drops compared to dwight every game? And the fact that the bulls don't have to call post ups for Noah just to keep him happy even though they aren't efficient.

Dwight is an unskilled manchild who was lucky enough to be born with super powers. Noah has determination, grit, and smarts.

KyrieTheFuture
03-10-2014, 11:32 AM
DWS, and DRTG is truly overall team defense numbers. Wanna know how I know? Asik in his last year with the Bulls led the team in DWS and had a DRTG of 88. Both Dwight and Asik stats have gone down because they play with worse defenders than before.. Even though Dwight still blocks more shots than Noah...... and Noah is an offensive volume shooter. Dwight is the most efficient legit offensive threat in the LEAGUE.
FT shooting counts as efficiency, so no he isn't.

And LeBron almost scores as "efficiently" as Dwight despite scoring several more points a game.

ralph_i_el
03-10-2014, 11:38 AM
DWS, and DRTG is truly overall team defense numbers. Wanna know how I know? Asik in his last year with the Bulls led the team in DWS and had a DRTG of 88. Both Dwight and Asik stats have gone down because they play with worse defenders than before.. Even though Dwight still blocks more shots than Noah...... and Noah is an offensive volume shooter. Dwight is the most efficient legit offensive threat in the LEAGUE.

10 FGA a game is a volume shooter?

Dwight has the 6th highest TS% for all starting centers. Brook Lopez had significantly higher efficiency AND usage before he went down to injury.


Also....dwight can't shoot out to 10ft. That matters in the NBA. Passing also matters in the NBA.

The best offensive C in the league is Al Horford anyways.

Glide2keva
03-10-2014, 11:40 AM
Still the same arguments as before, with the SAME useless and ridiculous stats. When do they announce DWS during the games? They don't.

I'd take Noah over Dwight simply because Noah is going to give you everything he has on the floor. He can handle the ball, lead the break, make the correct pass, hustle for boards and keep plays alive. And you don't have to run plays for him. He's got an unbelievable motor, whereas for DH, I question his at times. Plus, Noah will rep for your team and keep the rivalry and tension going. DH smiles and loves everybody. (<----Joke, but you get the point)

joe
03-10-2014, 11:42 AM
Noah has cooler hair too

ralph_i_el
03-10-2014, 11:43 AM
I'd take Noah over Dwight simply because Noah is going to give you everything he has on the floor. He can handle the ball, lead the break, make the correct pass, hustle for boards and keep plays alive. And you don't have to run plays for him. He's got an unbelievable motor, whereas for DH, I question his at times. Plus, Noah will rep for your team and keep the rivalry and tension going. DH smiles and loves everybody. (<----Joke, but you get the point)
qft


Lol. You guys are really starting to overrate Noah if you think he's better than Dwight. That's all I'll say.
I think the underlying thing here is that Dwight is a guy you have to structure your team around or he drags it down. Noah is a guy you can plug in on any team and he brings his teammates up.

Djsonny
03-10-2014, 12:41 PM
I think Dwight is still the best center in the game, but Noah is really showing he's got some skills. He's turned into more than just a hustle guy to me. I don't like him, but I like his game. Oh and Rose kinda has to say he'd rather Noah over Dwight since they're already on the same team lol

I lol'd this comment. If you had a sibling, you arent going to say, i rather have someone else. But Noah has been a beast this year. His assist numbers are really amazing for a center. Noahs defense on a LBJ switch last night was good, dont see dhoward with that .

Rocketswin2013
03-10-2014, 01:04 PM
qft


I think the underlying thing here is that Dwight is a guy you have to structure your team around or he drags it down. Noah is a guy you can plug in on any team and he brings his teammates up.
Dwight has never dragged a team down. Ever. Cite the Lakers if you want but look at how terrible they are. Dwight is better than Noah on both ends. Period.

CelticBaller
03-10-2014, 01:35 PM
Noah has more fire, but that's pretty much it

Levity
03-10-2014, 01:42 PM
both noah and dwight hold more value than the other player to their respective teams. dwights athleticism will always keep him in talks as a top C in the league, but noah smothers dwight when it comes to mental toughness. something thats invaluable during the playoffs, especially when the going gets tough (which pretty much has been the bulls scenario the last year and a half)

ralph_i_el
03-10-2014, 01:54 PM
Dwight has never dragged a team down. Ever. Cite the Lakers if you want but look at how terrible they are. Dwight is better than Noah on both ends. Period.

His last season in Orlando? The first third of this season? And yeah, LA.

well, LA was more of a team effort to drag each other down.

Rocketswin2013
03-10-2014, 01:56 PM
both noah and dwight hold more value than the other player to their respective teams. dwights athleticism will always keep him in talks as a top C in the league, but noah smothers dwight when it comes to mental toughness. something thats invaluable during the playoffs, especially when the going gets tough (which pretty much has been the bulls scenario the last year and a half)
Yeah Dwight never performs in the playoffs....... Lol I can't wait for him the smash the league this postseason...........

Levity
03-10-2014, 01:57 PM
Yeah Dwight never performs in the playoffs....... Lol I can't wait for him the smash the league this postseason...........

not what i was saying, but whatever you need to justify yourself.

Draz
03-10-2014, 02:21 PM
Can't drive a Ferrari with an engine of a punch buggy.

Fire Colangelo
03-10-2014, 02:41 PM
Its ridiculous, Bull probably would've won the chip had they had Dwight instead of Noah.

Imagine if they had a Dwight averaging 27/16 on 63% (2011 playoffs).

davehos
03-10-2014, 03:28 PM
lol. It still seems silly. Dwight is the best center in the NBA and is not even close.

The man has no killer instinct. He has yet to take a team on his shoulders and close out a series. Kobe made him squirm and cry. He punked his own coach in Orlando.

He has a good stat line but all the indicators point to him being a pretty terrible teammate.

Chemistry is important in the playoffs. You have to know your teammates aren't going to check out or choke.

IncarceratedBob
03-10-2014, 03:37 PM
Top 3 centers

M Gasol
Dwigt Howard
Jo No

Jameerthefear
03-10-2014, 04:34 PM
"no killer instinct"
holy shit you guys are retarded lol

YouGotServed
03-10-2014, 05:39 PM
Yup everyone knows NCAA championships don't matter :facepalm especially back to back ones:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

I'd take Noah over Dwight as a defender. Then since you love stats so much how about those 3 extra dimes Noah drops compared to dwight every game? And the fact that the bulls don't have to call post ups for Noah just to keep him happy even though they aren't efficient.

Dwight is an unskilled manchild who was lucky enough to be born with super powers. Noah has determination, grit, and smarts.

Brool story co.

Dwight's team is currently 3rd in the West.Only 3 games behind having the best record in the NBA. Will likely win 57+ games. Multiple DPOYs, led his team to a finals appearance.

Dwight currently has better stats, his team is better, has done more in his NBA career. Saying Noah "hustles" more doesn't make him a better player. Sorry, buddy. It doesn't work that way.

PS- I'm still loling @ NCAA titles.