Do people honestly think the "Raptors" are good???

[Olacinco]

I'm mean seriously.... Does anyone think they're complete booty cheeks?...

I mean come on, all there wins are against lottery teams or teams coming off a back to back... Not 1 impressive win thus far

They just a bunch of scrubs that benefit off lowry's elite point guard skills.. Once he leaves for for a real team and some real money this summer they will just be another lottery team that never has a chance of seeing the second round...

My official prediction for tonight's game... 101-87


I honestly wish we finished 6th seed just so we can sweep them and embarrass them on national tv

What a sad failure of a franchise :facepalm

[Akrazotile]

Dont you worry OP, Im pretty sure nobody actually thinks theyre any good.


Also why did you put "Raptors" in quotations? Thats their name.

[Dave3]

I honestly wish we finished 6th seed just so we can sweep them and embarrass them on national tv

Who's "we"? Nets?

[lpublic_enemyl]

I'm mean seriously.... Does anyone think they're complete booty cheeks?...

I mean come on, all there wins are against lottery teams or teams coming off a back to back... Not 1 impressive win thus far

They just a bunch of scrubs that benefit off lowry's elite point guard skills.. Once he leaves for for a real team and some real money this summer they will just be another lottery team that never has a chance of seeing the second round...

My official prediction for tonight's game... 101-87


I honestly wish we finished 6th seed just so we can sweep them and embarrass them on national tv

What a sad failure of a franchise :facepalm
lmao :roll:

[poido123]

It sucks that Casey gets to ride the effort of the team and success, yet he is still a bad coach.

Jonas V should be on 30+ minutes, I think his play is affected by Casey pulling him.

He screams at his players all game and pulls anyone who has a bad play or two. A reactionary coach, trying to cling onto his job and do whatever it takes, even if it means stunting players who should be getting minutes.

[Bandito]

Take out of the best players in the team and they suck. Really? How did you got to that conclusion?:biggums:

[BlackVVaves]

The "Raptors"?

[Clyde]

9 games above .500 is bad??

I don't understand the people on this forum sometimes.

Under your logic, everyone is the east other than Miami/Indiana is bad, and I can't agree with that

[Olacinco]

9 games above .500 is bad??

I don't understand the people on this forum sometimes.

Under your logic, everyone is the east other than Miami/Indiana is bad, and I can't agree with that

like is said in my post, not 1 impressive win thus far... all off back to backs

...they the best at not losing to lottery teams... WOOO congratulations :applause:


:facepalm

[Clyde]

Wins over dallas, okc, Indiana, Chicago, golden state......

Back to backs or not these is still quality wins over good teams.

Mind you, you think victor olidipo is the next dwyane wade, so Wtf do you understand?

Kids these days

[Olacinco]

Wins over dallas, okc, Indiana, Chicago, golden state......

Back to backs or not these is still quality wins over good teams.

Mind you, you think victor olidipo is the next dwyane wade, so Wtf do you understand?

Kids these days


don't make me report you for falsifying my words......









I said he'd be better than D Wade :hammertime:

[Clyde]

don't make me report you for falsifying my words......









I said he'd be better than D Wade :hammertime:

:facepalm

another troll for the ignore list.

[Dave3]

like is said in my post, not 1 impressive win thus far... all off back to backs

...they the best at not losing to lottery teams... WOOO congratulations :applause:


:facepalm
At Chicago twice (they had a 3 day rest on the second one), at Dallas (not b2b) and against Dallas again at home, at OKC (with Westbrook), and against Indiana. That's only from mid December (when Gay was traded) to mid January, and not a single quality win :rolleyes: . I would keep going but your posts aren't worth the effort.

[Clyde]

At Chicago twice (they had a 3 day rest on the second one), at Dallas (not b2b) and against Dallas again at home, at OKC (with Westbrook), and against Indiana. That's only from mid December (when Gay was traded) to mid January, and not a single quality win :rolleyes: . I would keep going but your posts aren't worth the effort.

Don't bother with this clown.

He's here to bug people.

I have yet to see him add anything of relevance to a type of basketball discussion.

[Dave3]

Don't bother with this clown.

He's here to bug people.

I have yet to see him add anything of relevance to a type of basketball discussion.
I figured in case anyone is reading this they at least deserved some clarification.

[Olacinco]

I figured in case anyone is reading this they at least deserved some clarification.

they will get their all the clarification they need tonight, when the Raps get blown out and the Barclays starts chanting BROOOOOOOOOKKLYNNNN...

then they can go back to sad miserable life knowing, they will always be playing for the betas of the Atlantic Division...

[Finger Roll]

OP's girlfriend must have slept with a dude from Toronto.

So butthurt

[Dave3]

they will get their all the clarification they need tonight, when the Raps get blown out and the Barclays starts chanting BROOOOOOOOOKKLYNNNN...

then they can go back to sad miserable life knowing, they will always be playing for the betas of the Atlantic Division...
Out of curiousity, you a Nets fan?

[Olacinco]

Out of curiousity, you a Nets fan?

yes... since the day I was born, if you needed to know

[Dave3]

yes... since the day I was born, if you needed to know
Just wondering. Since Nets fans back in the first month of January were boasting how they're coming for the Raptors in the standings. The game difference back then was 3. Today the difference in the standings is 4 games. For a lot of talk there isn't much in action that backs it up.

Also "Raptors only beat good teams on back to backs" (which is untrue anyways)...claims that the Nets winning tonight will be statement making...Raptors are on back to back. lol

[tmacattack33]

Why is Raptors in quotes.

That is their real name.

[red1]

OP what was it that hurt your feelings. You a nets fan or something?

[red1]

yes... since the day I was born, if you needed to know
And there you go. Nets suck now and have no future. No wonder you're so emotional :lol

[Dave3]

And there you go. Nets suck now and have no future. No wonder you're so emotional :lol
Raptors were at one point the only team to beat the Nets in 2014, and we did it twice before any other team did it once. Not to mention the way we won in Brooklyn that last time. Gotta hurt I guess.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Define "good". They're 2nd round of the playoffs in the East good. Not really a serious threat to MIA/Indy though.

[Sakkreth]

Op so mad :D

And actually Raptors are better than their record indicates, because it's different team after Gay trade.

[kamil]

Nobody wants to play in Toronto, thats why the franchise has always been mediocre.

[Dave3]

Op so mad :D

And actually Raptors are better than their record indicates, because it's different team after Gay trade.
29-14 since Gay, a 55 win pace. Good enough for playoffs even in the West.

[Clyde]

Nobody wants to play in Toronto, thats why the franchise has always been mediocre.

i'd say poor management played a part in that.

They're nothing to laugh at now, that's for sure.

[kamil]

i'd say poor management played a part in that.

They're nothing to laugh at now, that's for sure.

Between any city in USA (pretty much all of which are superior to Toronto) where weather is more than likely warmer, closer to home, less taxes, etc. why would anyone want to play in Toronto?

Unless your name is Anthony Bennet or Andrew Wiggins, there's not much pull for any NBA to come to Toronto.

Remember how Steve Francis reacted to being selected by Vancouver?

[WallIn]

I have to admit, the Raptors have bettered my Wiz as of late :confusedshrug: Great decisions, getting rid of Gay and bringing Lowry.

Wash won't give up that 3rd spot without a fight though, 8-1 in the last 9 games :no:

[red1]

Between any city in USA (pretty much all of which are superior to Toronto) where weather is more than likely warmer, closer to home, less taxes, etc. why would anyone want to play in Toronto?

Unless your name is Anthony Bennet or Andrew Wiggins, there's not much pull for any NBA to come to Toronto.

Remember how Steve Francis reacted to being selected by Vancouver?
You are unbelievable. Are you really that bitter about the fact that you couldnt get any girls when you came to town? That thread about how you got rejected by the all girls at clubs exposed how irrational you are when it comes to t.o. My goodness get over it

[kamil]

You are unbelievable. Are you really that bitter about the fact that you couldnt get any girls when you came to town? That thread about how you got rejected by the all girls at clubs exposed how irrational you are when it comes to t.o. My goodness get over it

Where the hell did this come from?

[Legends66NBA7]

Also why did you put "Raptors" in quotations? Thats their name.


The "Raptors"?


Why is Raptors in quotes.

That is their real name.

I believe he put it in quotations because he's probably used to identifying them as "Craptors". Either that or he didn't finish grade school.


Besides, why are people responding with actual logical conclusions ? We all know OP likes to get a rise out of people saying inane things.

Here's what he said the last time the Nets faced the Raptors:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9435915&postcount=113


that raptor game was BS. We all kno we woulda won by double digits in the first half alone.

In b4 nets take raptors by 22 with JoJo dropping 32:eek:

He and The JKidd Kid are no different in terms of bias, but at least you can have a discussion of sorts with Kid.

[Clyde]

Between any city in USA (pretty much all of which are superior to Toronto) where weather is more than likely warmer, closer to home, less taxes, etc. why would anyone want to play in Toronto?

Unless your name is Anthony Bennet or Andrew Wiggins, there's not much pull for any NBA to come to Toronto.

Remember how Steve Francis reacted to being selected by Vancouver?

Toronto is one of the biggest Metropolises in North America. The weather isn't horrible, it's not like they live in igloos 8 months out of the year.

Also not sure how how all cities in USA are superior than Toronto, have you ever been?

What do you know of Toronto?

Could you even point it out on a map?

I'll agree that having to pay two taxes hinders their ability to sign players, but they did fine during the Vince Carter era.

If they had the core that was able to do great things, other players would go there......it will happen eventually.

Lastly Steve Francis is a crack addict, what does that tell you about Steve Francis?

[Legends66NBA7]

The Steve Francis situation was an exception, not the norm. I'm pretty sure most American athletes are educated enough about the city of Toronto. It's just the franchise has to committed towards consistent winning seasons.

Otherwise, it doesn't matter how attractive the city is.

[red1]

Where the hell did this come from?
Don't play dumb. I remember that thread perfectly. Get over it man its f*cking pathetic. Just because you couldnt get any action doesnt mean millionaire athletes wont :oldlol:

[kamil]

Toronto is one of the biggest Metropolises in North America. The weather isn't horrible, it's not like they live in igloos 8 months out of the year.

Also not sure how how all cities in USA are superior than Toronto, have you ever been?

What do you know of Toronto?

Could you even point it out on a map?

I'll agree that having to pay two taxes hinders their ability to sign players, but they did fine during the Vince Carter era.

If they had the core that was able to do great things, other players would go there......it will happen eventually.

Lastly Steve Francis is a crack addict, what does that tell you about Steve Francis?

-47C with windchill back in 2006. This year I know for a fact has been a brutally long and cold winter in Toronto as well. Summers are insanely humid due to the lake.

I could point out Toronto on a map with my eyes closed. If I was a star NBA player, Toronto wouldn't be on my list of cities to play in. Scrubs don't have a say, they should be thankful their in the league.

[WallIn]

Toronto is close proximity to Chicago, Detroit, Milwaukee, Cleveland etc. To say that somebody wouldn't want to go there because of the weather?:roll: It's not Alaska for God's sake

[barkleynash]

Realistically, we know the raps are not contenders. Us raptor fans are fine with that. We have a good young team, a solid bench, financial flexibility and all of, plus the knicks 2016 first rounder. That is a brighter future than the nets. If and when Toronto is ready to contend, I'd say, with some luck in two years when Miami maybe starts to fade, then we might be able to get that free-agent or make the home run trade to get us into contention. New Jersey is a solid team, and may well beat the raps in the playoffs if they meet, but I wouldn't count on it. They are old, beat up and have overpaid and underachieving players. They have given away much of their draft picks. It is free-agency or bust for them in the future.

[kamil]

Don't play dumb. I remember that thread perfectly. Get over it man its f*cking pathetic. Just because you couldnt get any action doesnt mean millionaire athletes wont :oldlol:

Oh please, I called out your lackluster city on a number of things and the only thing you took away from the criticism was the fact that I said your women are as cold as your weather and you think I couldn't get any action?

Sit down loser.

[Clyde]

........anyhow.....They have some good pieces, I hope they can resign Lowry this offseason and he continues to be the same player.

This team reminds me of Ujiri's Denver team......didn't have a real super star, but everyone bought into the team concept and they did well.

That city deserves a season like this, their fan base supports them and has stuck with them since day 1.

[Clyde]

-47C with windchill back in 2006. This year I know for a fact has been a brutally long and cold winter in Toronto as well. Summers are insanely humid due to the lake.

I could point out Toronto on a map with my eyes closed. If I was a star NBA player, Toronto wouldn't be on my list of cities to play in. Scrubs don't have a say, they should be thankful their in the league.

it was brutally cold everywhere this year!!!!

Do you live under a rock??

[Legends66NBA7]

Pre-March 10th rankings:

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/powerrankings/03/10/week19/index.html


12. Toronto (35-26) (Last week's ranking: 13)

Pace: 94.5 (22), OffRtg: 105.0 (10), DefRtg: 101.0 (6), NetRtg: +3.9 (9)

As well as the Bulls, Wizards and Nets have been playing, they're all still chasing the Raps, who have won nine of their last 11. Of course, the two losses came to Chicago and Washington, and they play the Nets on the second half of a rough Minneapolis-Brooklyn back-to-back on Monday. Kyle Lowry has shot just 27 percent over the last five games, but had a triple-double in Sunday's win.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-power-rankings--new-team-takes-over-no--1-151735604.html


12. Toronto Raptors (35-26; last week's ranking: 12): The Raptors have won three straight games and nine of their past 11 overall to move up to third in the lackluster East playoff race.

http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings


9. (last week's ranking: 10)

The Raps take a four-game lead over second-place Brooklyn into Monday's showdown, with 21 games to go for each team, as they close in on their first Atlantic Division title since 2006-07. DeMar DeRozan, meanwhile, is up to 13 30-point games ... after 12 in his first four seasons combined.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/powerrankings


5. (last week's ranking: 7)

This team isn't necessarily young, fun and naive. It's just playing well. In a month we find out a lot more.

[kamil]

it was brutally cold everywhere this year!!!!

Do you live under a rock??

Not like Toronto though. Anyway, there are much more cons about Toronto than other US cities to entice someone to come there and play.

[red1]

Oh please, I called out your lackluster on a number of things and the only thing you took away from the criticism was the fact that I said your women are as cold as your weather and you think I couldn't get any action?

Sit down loser.
No man. I picked up on your bitterness then and you are showing it again. Get over it. Shit is embarrassing.

[WallIn]

http://s27.postimg.org/yme1frao3/Clipboard01.jpg

Unless there is a magical change of climate when we are crossing the canadian border I cannot see the difference

[Clyde]

Not like Toronto though. Anyway, there are much more cons about Toronto than other US cities to entice someone to come there and play.


:facepalm

like what?

Other than taxes, everything else you mentioned is irrelevant.

Give me a reason to play for the Bucks, Cavs, Pistons or Timberwolves over the Raptors.

[kaiteng]

I think this Raptors is a 50/50 playoff team; having that chance against any teams, better or worse than them.

They are good enough but you can't totally bet on them.

[Legends66NBA7]

Toronto is close proximity to Chicago, Detroit, Milwaukee, Cleveland etc. To say that somebody wouldn't want to go there because of the weather?:roll: It's not Alaska for God's sake

Thanks.

The weather argument never makes sense. Their on the road half the season and the only cold months are December through February. It's so warm outside right now.

It's just about how they view the franchise as a place they can win or not with the talent, management, and ownership at hand. I feel confident enough in all 3 at it's current state, while the talent can certainly improve.

[kamil]

No man. I picked up on your bitterness then and you are showing it again. Get over it. Shit is embarrassing.

So insecure, lol.

Okay, seriously... you think Toronto is cool? What's so great about Toronto? I've never heard anyone saying 'I'm going to Toronto on vacation' ??

[Clyde]

http://s27.postimg.org/yme1frao3/Clipboard01.jpg

Unless there the is a magical change of climate when we are crossing the canadian border I cannot see the difference

there is no difference, just an ignornat opinion.

found a stereotype and just rolled with it.

[Legends66NBA7]

So insecure, lol.

Okay, seriously... you think Toronto is cool? What's so great about Toronto? I've never heard anyone saying 'I'm going to Toronto on vacation' ??

Noah would love Toronto (unless your just stating that quote for the benefit of your argument). Lot of people say Toronto is a "mini-New York", but to me it's structure is more similar to Chicago.

[red1]

So insecure, lol.

Okay, seriously... you think Toronto is cool? What's so great about Toronto? I've never heard anyone saying 'I'm going to Toronto on vacation' ??
Im not even saying toronto is a great destination for free agents im just calling you out on ridculous statement saying all 29 other teams are more attractive. Gtfo. You even been to detroit?

[Clyde]

So insecure, lol.

Okay, seriously... you think Toronto is cool? What's so great about Toronto? I've never heard anyone saying 'I'm going to Toronto on vacation' ??

that could be said about 90% of everywhere......

your intelligence is really shinning through here.
:applause: :applause: :applause:

[ralph_i_el]

So insecure, lol.

Okay, seriously... you think Toronto is cool? What's so great about Toronto? I've never heard anyone saying 'I'm going to Toronto on vacation' ??

you're an idiot. Probably just as many people who say "I'm going to Chicago on vacation"

You understand Toronto is a big, wealthy metropolis right? It's the 4th largest city ON THE CONTINENT (Mexico City, NY, LA, Toronto, Chicago).

They should be the last city you pick on.

[red1]

you're an idiot. Probably just as many people who say "I'm going to Chicago on vacation"

You understand Toronto is a big, wealthy metropolis right? It's the 4th largest city ON THE CONTINENT (Mexico City, NY, LA, Toronto, Chicago).

They should be the last city you pick on.
He is butthurt because he couldnt get any action when he came down. Im not even making this up

[Jailblazers7]

This is a major reason I wouldn't want to live in Toronto:

http://p.twimg.com/AyGiS9TCQAEmXfE.jpg

But an NBA player doesn't need to worry about public transportation.

[kamil]

He is butthurt because he couldnt get any action when he came down. Im not even making this up

We've never met so you wouldnt have a clue of what I was up to in Toronto. You're delusional.

[WallIn]

This is a major reason I wouldn't want to live in Toronto:

http://p.twimg.com/AyGiS9TCQAEmXfE.jpg

But an NBA player doesn't need to worry about public transportation.

You know that these cities are like 5 times larger than Toronto?

[ralph_i_el]

He is butthurt because he couldnt get any action when he came down. Im not even making this up

that's hilarious.

I just looked up latitude, Toronto is even significantly more south than Portland and Seattle :roll:

[kamil]

:facepalm

like what?

Other than taxes, everything else you mentioned is irrelevant.

Give me a reason to play for the Bucks, Cavs, Pistons or Timberwolves over the Raptors.

My original complains about Toronto, comments taken from another thread:


Toronto.

World's smallest big city. Nightlight has decreased over the last 5 years to being almost non-existent. 2am cutoff for alcohol. 3rd worst city in north america for traffic congestion (only behind Vancouver and Los Angeles afaik). Terrible weather (-47C was the worst I've felt there) and surprisingly, the women are as cold as the weather. Careful trying to converse with the broads here, the majority of guys in Toronto are entitled douchebags that treat women like trash, which has made majority of women into inapproachable shrews.

Happy Holidays though!


I forgot to add a couple things, I added to my original comment;

Housing is overvalued. 9-5 jobs are often 24/7 jobs since everyone works the grind and employment laws benefit the employer, so being fired without reason is LEGAL. Crack smoking mayor.

Toronto really isn't anything to rave about. It used to be great... 5+ years ago.

Although these aren't really concerns for NBA players... but really, for their future, Toronto isn't an investment.

[WallIn]

that's hilarious.

I just looked up longitude, Toronto is even significantly more south than Portland and Seattle :roll:
:oldlol:

[kamil]

This is a major reason I wouldn't want to live in Toronto:

http://p.twimg.com/AyGiS9TCQAEmXfE.jpg

But an NBA player doesn't need to worry about public transportation.

If you're not taking public transportation, you're not going to enjoy sitting in your car for hours getting from point A to point B. Traffic in T.O. is disgustingly bad.

[Legends66NBA7]

This is a major reason I wouldn't want to live in Toronto:

http://p.twimg.com/AyGiS9TCQAEmXfE.jpg

But an NBA player doesn't need to worry about public transportation.

Highway 401 is the busiest highway in North America, though. We also have the GO Transit system. So yes, while TTC can improve it's subway systems, there's still many other systems that accomodate travelers.

But yeah, NBA players can just ride it out on the 401.

[kamil]

Highway 401 is the busiest highway in North America, though. We also have the GO Transit system. So yes, while TTC can improve it's subway systems, there's still many other systems that accomodate travelers.

But yeah, NBA players can just ride it out on the 401.

Yup, between Mississauga and Ajax, the 401 is ridiculous... between 8-10am and 4-7pm its suicide.

[Legends66NBA7]

Yup, between Mississauga and Ajax, the 401 is ridiculous... between 8-10am and 4-7pm its suicide.

I live in Mississauga, so I'm always planning ahead of time when I'm taking my car out.

[rhowen4]

don't make me report you for falsifying my words......

I said he'd be better than D Wade :hammertime:
Come on, man. We don't need any vitriol towards Oladipo. He's one of the most likable guys in the league.

[ralph_i_el]

My original complains about Toronto, comments taken from another thread:





Although these aren't really concerns for NBA players... but really, for their future, Toronto isn't an investment.


Your complaints (outside your anecdotal evidence about the winter weather) can be said about almost every major city.


Here lets have a go. DC is a goddamn swamp town that is humid year round, filled with entitled rich assholes who drive like they're the only person on the road. 3am alcohol cutoff on weekends. Tourists all over the place. Always a chance some politician's motorcade is going to shut down traffic. Housing/parking expensive as hell. Get shot if you go in the wrong hood. We had a crack smoking+hooker banging mayor before Toronto, but he was also a civil rights figure so the "Chocolate City" re-elected him.


I'll do LA, NY, Paris, and SF if you want.

[kamil]

I live in Mississauga, so I'm always planning ahead of time when I'm taking my car out.

Where do the Raptors practice in Toronto? Is their facility somewhere on the outskirts or do the players have to through the traffic madness?

[kamil]

Your complaints (outside your anecdotal evidence about the winter weather) can be said about almost every major city.


Here lets have a go. DC is a goddamn swamp town that is humid year round, filled with entitled rich assholes who drive like they're the only person on the road. 3am alcohol cutoff on weekends. Tourists all over the place. Always a chance some politician's motorcade is going to shut down traffic. Housing/parking expensive as hell. Get shot if you go in the wrong hood. We had a crack smoking+hooker banging mayor before Toronto, but he was also a civil rights figure so the "Chocolate City" re-elected him.

Sounds like Toronto, lol. I've heard some people say the two are very similar.

[Prometheus]

that's hilarious.

I just looked up longitude, Toronto is even significantly more south than Portland and Seattle :roll:

Longitude measures East/West you moron. You're talking about latitude.

[Olacinco]

Geeeezz all this talk about canada is making me depressed..



Brb gunna go outside and enjoy the USA...

[Legends66NBA7]

Where do the Raptors practice in Toronto? Is their facility somewhere on the outskirts or do the players have to through the traffic madness?

I'm pretty sure during the course of the regular season that the Raptors practice in the Air Canada Center. During pre or off season they practice in different facilities. I've seen some episodes on the Raptors off days of them working in other parts of the city, like Scarborough.

I've seen them also drive around the city (on TV, not in person), so I don't think it's that much of a problem. They probably would stay in the region of the GTA, so they wouldn't be coming to cities like Mississauga or Brampton any time soon.

[R.I.P.]

That awkward moment, when you realize this wasn

[kamil]

I'm pretty sure during the course of the regular season that the Raptors practice in the Air Canada Center. During pre or off season they practice in different facilities. I've seen some episodes on the Raptors off days of them working in other parts of the city, like Scarborough.

I've seen them also drive around the city (on TV, not in person), so I don't think it's that much of a problem. They probably would stay in the region of the GTA, so they wouldn't be coming to cities like Mississauga or Brampton any time soon.

I'd hope for their sake that their practice times are not in the mornings when traffic is bad. I know they dont practice the kind of hours that the working middle class does (9-5 for a total of 8 hours, that'd be overkill) so i'm sure they could work around that schedule... well, ACC schedule willing.

[ralph_i_el]

Longitude measures East/West you moron. You're talking about latitude.

yup I dun goofed
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b619/alex_mcdonald2/dealwithit_zps4bbbceaf.jpg (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/alex_mcdonald2/media/dealwithit_zps4bbbceaf.jpg.html)

[oarabbus]

Dont you worry OP, Im pretty sure nobody actually thinks theyre any good.


Also why did you put "Raptors" in quotations? Thats their name.


:lol first thing I thought of as well

[ProfessorMurder]

Why is 'Raptors' in quotes? The Raptors exist.

[Eric Cartman]

Isn't the mark of a good team beating teams you are supposed to beat?

[Legends66NBA7]

:lol first thing I thought of as well


Why is 'Raptors' in quotes? The Raptors exist.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9643720&postcount=34

[r0drig0lac]

they only need a return of bosh, lowry-demar-ross-bosh-val is a good starting lineup

[raptorfan_dr07]

It sucks that Casey gets to ride the effort of the team and success, yet he is still a bad coach.

Jonas V should be on 30+ minutes, I think his play is affected by Casey pulling him.

He screams at his players all game and pulls anyone who has a bad play or two. A reactionary coach, trying to cling onto his job and do whatever it takes, even if it means stunting players who should be getting minutes.

BINGO! :applause: :applause: I'm glad to see there's someone else who gets it. He's the single biggest detriment to this team.

This is NOT ready to win now team despite what's going on this season. This team should've been blown up in the offseason, at the very least Lowry needed to be jettisoned IMMEDIATELY after Gay.

Player development NEEDS to be the highest priority and if that means sacrificing some wins and a lower playoff seeding(we're making it in the sh*t East), then so be it. It'll pay off in the end when Ross and Val are meaningful contributors on a great team. Unless you've already got the foundation of a championship contender, then winning should always be a by-product of player development.

It's not like its only this season though, Ed Davis rode the bench under Casey. Alan f*cking Anderson was playing over Terrance Ross even though the team was going nowhere.

Ross and Val will never properly develop unless Casey is gone and I hope Masai Ujiri recognizes this otherwise it will be extremely difficult to continue to support this team. Players like John Salmons and Chuck Hayes are NOT a part of this team's long term future and most likely won't even be around next year. There's a reason they weren't playing in Sacramento.

Ujiri so far has been saying all the right things regarding player development and cited it as a big reason why he didn't make a major splashes at the trade deadline, but as we recall, Bryan Colangelo said all the right things to and then proceeded to ruin this franchise. Ujiri needs to give Casey a mandate or let him go.

[Young X]

Terrible thread.

Negged.

Don't even ask me how.

[Fire Colangelo]

BINGO! :applause: :applause: I'm glad to see there's someone else who gets it. He's the single biggest detriment to this team.

This is NOT ready to win now team despite what's going on this season. This team should've been blown up in the offseason, at the very least Lowry needed to be jettisoned IMMEDIATELY after Gay.

Player development NEEDS to be the highest priority and if that means sacrificing some wins and a lower playoff seeding(we're making it in the sh*t East), then so be it. It'll pay off in the end when Ross and Val are meaningful contributors on a great team. Unless you've already got the foundation of a championship contender, then winning should always be a by-product of player development.

It's not like its only this season though, Ed Davis rode the bench under Casey. Alan f*cking Anderson was playing over Terrance Ross even though the team was going nowhere.

Ross and Val will never properly develop unless Casey is gone and I hope Masai Ujiri recognizes this otherwise it will be extremely difficult to continue to support this team. Players like John Salmons and Chuck Hayes are NOT a part of this team's long term future and most likely won't even be around next year. There's a reason they weren't playing in Sacramento.

Ujiri so far has been saying all the right things regarding player development and cited it as a big reason why he didn't make a major splashes at the trade deadline, but as we recall, Bryan Colangelo said all the right things to and then proceeded to ruin this franchise. Ujiri needs to give Casey a mandate or let him go.

It is what it is. We've been winning games so far, so let's enjoy it while it last. I'm hoping DeRozan continues to improve, I'm liking a solid core of Lowry, Derozan, Ross, and Val. Hopefully we make some smart draft picks and smart off season moves in the future and we can let this group grow like the Pacers did.

I'm seeing a bright future for the raps, if all else fails we still have Knicks draft pick. Unlike the Nets

[Legends66NBA7]

Casey isn't a great head coach, but he's got his good and bad like most coaches. He has done a great job of implementing a top offensive and defensive structure with the rest of his supporting cast. Right now, the Raptors are the only Eastern Conference team that ranks Top 10 in offense and defense. Also, rank #1 in 4th quarter differential.

So yes, despite mismanaging some of the younger players, he has done so on the adjustments of getting wins. But come playoff time, he's going to have to ride out the younger players since the playoffs are the best time for not only to see how good you can be, but also for that same development. I'll take a 4-10+ game playoff run going against tougher defensive coverage and the best teams the league has to offer + off season improvements against sub par talent and improving skill sets over just off season improvements, etc..

[steve]

Wow. So much misinformation and trolling in this thread. Let me start by addressing the OP; as I type this, the Raptors are up by 8 on the Nets. The game is far from over, but it's not really the butt whopping you so gallantly predicted the Nets would give the Raptors (who, FYI, are on a back-to-back on the road after playing in Minnesota last night).

The Raptors do play in a weak conference, but they are a legitimate team. No one thinks they are winning the championship, but being 8 or 9 games above .500 and finishing with home-court advantage in the playoffs is nothing to scoff at. They have beaten plenty of good teams and no, not all of them were on a back-to-back. They have a point guard playing at an elite level, getting a real good season from Derozan, and consistent, solid production from Amir, Ross, and Valancunias. Not to mention a really solid bench, mostly acquired in the Rudy Gay trade with Patterson (excellent addition) and Vasquez (erratic, but capable of providing offense in bunches). Depending on their seeding and opponents, I see them going to the 2nd round and maybe even the 3rd where they will undoubtedly be dumped in swift fashion by the Heat or Pacers. But hey, it's progress for a franchise that hasn't seen that sort of success since Vince Carter's heyday.

You just seem like a butthurt Nets fan, probably mad that your old-ass, overpaid team isn't going to be able to jack all beyond this season (which will probably end in a 1st round playoff exit, possibly, hopefully at the hands of the "Raptors"). Have fun paying a mid-30's Joe Johnson 23-25 million over the next few seasons! Garnett looks old and terrible. Pierce is old. Your best bench player (Kirilenko) is aging and unable to contribute at a high level anymore. Deron Williams has had one of the quickest falls from grace in the NBA that I can remember. You have no draft picks, no assets, and no cap flexibility. Good luck with all that.

As for all this hate towards the city of Toronto...lol. Just lol. Your petty complaints are true of every major metropolis in North America. Traffic, tourists, rude people, cold weather, cutoff times for alcohol (ZOMG, 2am?!? If you want an all night party then go to Las Vegas). You went to Toronto once and you didn't have success with women, so you label them all as cold and bitchy? Couldn't be that you're just a douche who sucks at talking to women, could it? Even IF I were to concede that you met a few bitchy women, they do not represent an entire city. Toronto is a beautiful, cultured and extremely fun city with a great nightlife and lots to see and do. The weather complaints are hilarious because theres been a deadly winter pretty much everywhere this year, even Atlanta had a snow storm for christs sake (and lost their minds because of it). You referencing an abnormally cold day from 8 years ago isn't really strengthening your opinion. It's cold in the winter, mild in the spring, hot in the summer and cool in the fall. We have four distinct seasons like many other places in the world. Get educated or keep your opinions to yourself, fool.

I realize I just wasted my time typing out a lengthy reply to a bunch of trolls but eh, it needed to be said. Good day.

[Grey Dawn]

Who's "we"? Nets?

Agenda revealed :roll:

[Qwyjibo]

Define "good". They're 2nd round of the playoffs in the East good. Not really a serious threat to MIA/Indy though.
That sums up my feelings on the Raptors. Also, have to take into consideration the piss poor state the East is in this year.

So they are a good team right now but I question how much better they'll get. I have doubts about the ceiling of this current roster assuming no major additions are made. The leap to a great team with a legit shot at being a conference contender will mostly depend on the development of Valanciunas and Ross, getting lucky with some late draft picks and trades. The Raptors won't be a major player in free agency for now unless they grossly overpay.

Of course the short-term plan could go to shit if Lowry leaves. Although right now, it looks like maybe only the Lakers and Magic would have the money + need at PG to make a run at him. But the Lakers might save their money for bigger free agents while the Magic don't need to accelerate their rebuild.

[Clyde]

Qwyjibo - Big Dumb balding North American Ape?

:oldlol:

[bdreason]

Raptors are a solid squad. Not a real playoff threat, but still a solid squad.

[Legends66NBA7]

Raptors are a solid squad. Not a real playoff threat, but still a solid squad.

Pretty much. Nobody has argued otherwise.

If they win a playoff series or more, they would just exceed expectations, since pretty much everyone has pegged them to lose in the 1st round.

[Black and White]

They are better than the Magic and the Nets :oldlol:

[Clyde]

They are better than the Magic and the Nets :oldlol:

Magic are in that transition period.......hope they get back soon as I have a standing $10 bet every time they play the raptors.

[Legends66NBA7]

Magic are in that transition period.......hope they get back soon as I have a standing $10 bet every time they play the raptors.

He's saying that to the OP because the OP likes both those teams.

[MMM]

Raptors have the best shot at upseting one of the top 2 teams

[Clyde]

He's saying that to the OP because the OP likes both those teams.

got ya....op's on my ignore list.

[BurningHammer]

Raptors have the best shot at upseting one of the top 2 teams
Yep. They have beat Pacers and forced LeBron to pull rabbits out of his hat to secure Heat close wins.

Raptors are basically the wildcards.

[Black and White]

got ya....op's on my ignore list.

I didn't mean to come across as dogging the Magic, honestly, OP and Jamerthefear give the Magic a bad name.

My apologies.

[Milbuck]

Raptors have the best shot at upseting one of the top 2 teams
http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0706/draft.fashion/images/Noah.jpg

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

Lowry is pretty damn good. Top 10 point guard

[kaiteng]

http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0706/draft.fashion/images/Noah.jpg
Bulls are equally good, but it is basically the same playoff team as last season that only beat the Heat once there.

[Legends66NBA7]

Bulls are equally good, but it is basically the same playoff team as last season that only beat the Heat once there.

I think the Bulls want to face Indiana in the 2nd round, not Miami.

[Legends66NBA7]

More people honestly thinking the "Raptors" are good:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24484765/nightly-grades-heat-lose-again-bobcats-win-again


If you weren't already, it's definitely time to take the Raptors seriously. Very seriously. They're not just beating up on the Eastern Conference dregs, but now they're taking care of business against Western playoff teams playing with desperation. With a strong fourth quarter the Raptors put the Grizzlies away 99-86 behind 23 from Jonas Valanciunas. The Raptors are legit good, you guys. Get on board.

[RoseCity07]

F#ck no. Addition by subtraction.

[215Philly]

http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0706/draft.fashion/images/Noah.jpg
8-2

[red1]

Best team in the league point-blank period.

[smoovegittar]

The fact is the Raptors have been better this year than many previous years. Don't discount them in the East. I think they could take the Nets.

[NLZ]

Raps more talent than Indiana... 2-3 years will be better.