Best PG in the game, in terms of..

[coolhandsteve]

Pure passing
Ballhandling
Shooting
Finishing at the rim
Athleticism
Defense

[Milbuck]

Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, and it's not even remotely close.

Pure passing - CP3
Ballhandling - Kyrie
Shooting - Curry
Finishing at the rim/Athleticism - Westbrook
Defense - Westbrook

[moe94]

Pure passing - Rondo
Ballhandling - Kyrie
Shooting - Curry
Finishing at the rim/Athleticism - Westbrook
Defense - Westbrook

[Budadiiii]

Pure passing - Rondo
Ballhandling - Kyrie
Shooting - Curry
Finishing at the rim/Athleticism - Westbrook
Defense - Westbrook
Why are these even grouped together? Westbrook is terrible at finishing but the most athletic.

The best finisher is probably that dude Kyrie Irving. Most naturally gifted at it. Just lacks leadership/discipline to ever be an all time great. :facepalm

[Marlo_Stanfield]

BEst finisher: Kyrie/Lin
Best Defense: Lin

[JebronLames]

Paul George

[moe94]

Westbrook is terrible at finishing
:facepalm

[no pun intended]

Chris Paul is the second best PG in all of those categories, but shooting and athleticism.

[pauk]

Pure passing - Ricky Rubio
Ballhandling - Kyrie Irving
Shooting - Stephen Curry
Finishing at the rim/Athleticism - Russell Westbrook
Defense - Avery Bradley

[EnoughSaid]

You almost certainly have to go with Chris Paul. He has everything you'd want in a point guard. Westbrook has the athleticism, but he's not nearly as efficient, as good of a passer and makes too many boneheaded plays.

If Rondo is able to develop a more reliable jumpshoot he could realistically challenge Paul as the best PG in the game, but as of now CP3 is the way to go.

[Budadiiii]

:facepalm
You don't watch him very much, do you?:oldlol:

Being a good dunker doesn't make you a good finisher. For every great dunk, he misses 10 layups. Dude has terrible touch around the rim. Terrible.

[Black and White]

Pure passing - Ricky Rubio
Ballhandling - Kyrie Irving
Shooting - Stephen Curry
Finishing at the rim/Athleticism - Russell Westbrook
Defense - Avery Bradley

Bradley is a SG

[pauk]

Bradley is a SG

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bradlav01.html

...and yes, Avery Bradley is by extremly far the best PG defender.

[navy]

:facepalm
He is. He jumps off the wrong foot at times and is always out of control.
Unless you mean dunking as well.

[chocolatethunder]

BEst finisher: Kyrie/Lin
Best Defense: Lin
Joke of the week

[Black and White]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bradlav01.html

...and yes, Avery Bradley is by extremly far the best PG defender.

Sure he can be listed as one but is it his natural position? No, he doesn't really play like one, he is more of a fill-in PG

[moe94]

He is. He jumps off the wrong foot at times and is always out of control.
Unless you mean dunking as well.
So Westbrook is below average at finishing around the rim, huh? Terrible?

[pauk]

Sure he can be listed as one but is it his natural position? No, he doesn't really play like one, he is more of a fill-in PG

Lebron often plays like a PG... is he a PG? :)

At the end of the day we call players that which they are listed...

[Black and White]

Lebron often plays like a PG... is he a PG? :)

At the end of the day we call players that which they are listed...

Well if you want to go by that and take him as a PG then yea he would be the best defender of the bunch.

[Budadiiii]

So Westbrook is below average at finishing around the rim, huh? Terrible?
No one said he was terrible or below average. His touch is terrible and below average.

being 6 foot 3 and insanely athletic makes him above average by default I guess. His aggression and athleticism allows him a lot more opportunities but his finishing rate sucks.

[SHABBA]

Passing - Rondo
Ballhandling - CP3
Shooting - Curry
Athleticism - Westbrook
Driving/finishing - Parker
D - Conley

[pauk]

Well if you want to go by that and take him as a PG then yea he would be the best defender of the bunch.

:cheers:

[navy]

So Westbrook is below average at finishing around the rim, huh? Terrible?

Below average I think. He was in his shot chart, but he's been injured so we'll see.

[Budadiiii]

Below average I think. He was in his shot chart, but he's been injured so we'll see.
Facts are not healthy for casual fans.

Westbrook must be a great finisher because of his highlight dunks. :facepalm

[moe94]

Facts are not healthy for casual fans.

Westbrook must be a great finisher because of his highlight dunks. :facepalm

Bring the charts. Post the facts.

[Budadiiii]

Bring the charts. Post the facts.
Not a stat guy. I watch the games. Just confident that the stats will back me up.

Moreover, many sites aren't loading correctly on my laptop. I'm doing a scan right now and trying to get rid of this pesky malware. Google ****ing up.

Navy will provide the facts. Ironically, he's a part of my Army against casual fans. :pimp:

[no pun intended]

Westbrook has the Finisher Signature Skill. Therefore, he must be a good finisher.

[russwest0]

Pure passing
Ballhandling
Shooting
Finishing at the rim/Athleticism
Defense

Russell Westbrook.

[moe94]

You're too funny, budadaiii. lol

[JohnFreeman]

I would put Thomas in the ball handling category, maybe not on top though

[navy]

http://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/grant_r_russellwestbrook_shotscore_115211.jpg?w=51 0
http://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/russ1152.jpg?w=510&h=401

Here are the shot charts. As Ive said he's been injured this year, so I wont say that they are 100% conclusive.

[moe94]

Now do the boy Kyrie.

[JohnFreeman]

http://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/grant_r_russellwestbrook_shotscore_115211.jpg?w=51 0
http://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/russ1152.jpg?w=510&h=401

Here are the shot charts. As Ive said he's been injured this year, so I wont say that they are 100% conclusive.
This is what happens when a shooting guard is forced to play PG

[CelticBaller]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bradlav01.html

...and yes, Avery Bradley is by extremly far the best PG defender.
Bradley is a sg b, he starts and plays sg for the celtics

[noob cake]

Pure passing - Paul
Ballhandling - Paul or Irving
Shooting - Curry by a mile
Finishing at the rim - Irving by a mile
Athleticism - Westbrook or Wall
Defense - ehhh, guards can't be defended

[CelticBaller]

rondo put out 18 assist and 0 to with one of the worst squads in the league

he is by far the best passer

[RagaZ]

Tony Parker is the best finisher.

[no pun intended]

Tony Parker is the best finisher.
thank you.

[moe94]

Tony Parker is the best finisher.

Yeah. Forgot about dude. :biggums:

[navy]

Best passer is Rondo or CP3
Finisher is Tony Parker
Dunker is Westbrook
Shooter is Curry
Ball handler is Kyrie and CP3

[Budadiiii]

Tony Parker is the best finisher.
Kyrie is better.

[sammichoffate]

I'm stuck between Paul, Westbrook, and TP. Honorable mention for Curry, Rondo, and Dragic though. Tbh anyone can be the best PG at any given time cuz of the eye test, so it's pretty difficult till the end of the season

[sammichoffate]

Pure passing: Chris Paul
Ballhandling: Chris Paul
Shooting: Curry
Finishing at the rim: Parker
Athleticism: John Wall
Defense:Kirk HinrichPretty random :lol

[Prometheus]

Pure passing - Rondo
Ballhandling - Kyrie
Shooting - Curry
Finishing at the rim/Athleticism - Westbrook
Defense - Westbrook

http://www.drodd.com/images10/clapping-gif20.gif

[Young X]

Pure passing - CP
Ballhandling - CP
Shooting - Curry
Finishing at the rim - Parker
Athleticism - Westbrook
Defense - Beverly/Bledsoe

[sammichoffate]

Lol Hinrich was in DPOY discussions believe it or not. But it's probably CP3 overall.Lolwut. When?

[Prodigy]

Lolwut. When?

Around seven to eight years ago. So a bit before you started watching.

[ralph_i_el]

Pure passing
Ballhandling
Shooting
Finishing at the rim/Athleticism
Defense

I take offense to "Finishing at the rim/athleticism"

best PG in terms of finishing around the basket has been Tony Parker for years. It's not because of crazy hops or athleticism, it's because he's got MOVES. Dragic is great around the cup too because he's creative and crazy

()=#2
Pure passing-Wall (Cp3)
Ballhandling-CP3(Kyrie)
Shooting-Curry(Lillard)
Finishing at the rim-Parker (Wall...shooting 67% at the rim)
Athleticism-Wall (westbrook if he ever recovers)
Defense-Wall (IDK who cares?)
Game Management- CP3 (Parker)

[sammichoffate]

Around seven to eight years ago. So a bit before you started watching.I was watching NBA, just wasn't really into it till 2009ish. Brushed up on a lot of 80's, 90's stuff after that. I had no idea he was that good of a defender though, damn.

[notatop29pg]

Pure passing - CP
Ballhandling - CP
Shooting - Curry
Finishing at the rim - Parker
Athleticism - Westbrook
Defense - Conley, I rate Kyle Lowry pretty highly too

[FKAri]

Rubio > Rondo imo when it comes to pure passing.

[Bibby4Three]

If Rondo is not your pure passer than you simply know nothing about basketball.

CP3>Rondo ballhanding but not passing the basketball. :coleman:

[coolhandsteve]

I take offense to "Finishing at the rim/athleticism"

best PG in terms of finishing around the basket has been Tony Parker for years. It's not because of crazy hops or athleticism, it's because he's got MOVES. Dragic is great around the cup too because he's creative and crazy

()=#2
Pure passing-Wall (Cp3)
Ballhandling-CP3(Kyrie)
Shooting-Curry(Lillard)
Finishing at the rim-Parker (Wall...shooting 67% at the rim)
Athleticism-Wall (westbrook if he ever recovers)
Defense-Wall (IDK who cares?)
Game Management- CP3 (Parker)

Finishing at the rim/Athleticism wasn't something I thought of as separate until I saw how I posted it..my bad.

Defense does matter though, everyone seems to talk about only offense when it comes to point guards.

[moe94]

What does pure passing really mean? Statistically, Paul is the best and it's not particularly close.

[Micku]

Westbrook is terrible at finishing but the most athletic.



Yeah, Westbrook is pretty bad at finishing this year. He is only shooting about 53% in the restricted area, so he isn't that good at finishing. And when he was healthy, he actually was never been elite like Tony Parker at finishing at the rim and he wasn't as good as Chris Paul either. But CP3 drives less often than Westbrook. Even Jeremy Lin finish better than Westbrook as well. But you can say that Westbrook drives more often than all of those guys.

But Westbrook is actually a very good midrange shooter tho to make up from his inability to finish this year. He's elite at it with Tony Parker and CP3.

[sammichoffate]

What does pure passing really mean? Statistically, Paul is the best and it's not particularly close.I'm assuming it's setting up plays for the team and directing traffic/getting the ball to the right spot at the perfect time. :confusedshrug:

[ralph_i_el]

If Rondo is not your pure passer than you simply know nothing about basketball.

CP3>Rondo ballhanding but not passing the basketball. :coleman:


Rondo is a really great passer, very flashy and hard to predict

CP3 is steady, creative, and patient. He lets it go at exactly the right moment.

Wall creates a metric shit-ton of 3 pointers....and those are worth more points! Not as patient or precise as Rondo or CP3, but his height opens up passing lanes those guys can't use as often.

[coolhandsteve]

Pure passing- Between Rondo & Paul
Ballhandling- Straight up, Paul..flashy, Irving
Shooting- Curry
Finishing at the rim- Parker, I marvel at how unstoppable he can be at this
Athleticism- Westbrook though Wall & Lillard are better (by that I mean more creative) dunkers
Defense- Rondo, Westbrook, Wall, Conley, Lowry, can't really go wrong with either of these.

[Bibby4Three]

Rondo is a really great passer, very flashy and hard to predict

CP3 is steady, creative, and patient. He lets it go at exactly the right moment.

Wall creates a metric shit-ton of 3 pointers....and those are worth more points! Not as patient or precise as Rondo or CP3, but his height opens up passing lanes those guys can't use as often.


I would agree with your rundown for sure. I honestly have not seen a lot of Wall and I wish I have.

[r0drig0lac]

Pure passing = rondo
Ballhandling = kyrie
Shooting = curry
Finishing at the rim = parker (one of the best ever at the position in this regard)
Athleticism = westbrook and rose healthy
Defense: rubio,rondo and mcw

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Pure passing- Paul
Ballhandling- Paul
Shooting- Curry
Finishing at the rim- Parker
Athleticism- Westbrook
Defense- Conley