Who Will Phil Jackson Get Rid Of First?

[selrahc]

Melo? JR Smith? Amare Stoudemire?

IMO all three of these worthless players need to go.

[scm5]

Melo? JR Smith? Amare Stoudemire?

IMO all three of these worthless players need to go.

JR should go first. Amare should be resigned if he is willing to take a huge paycut.

Melo is going to stay if he wants to. No one in their right mind would get rid of him. Stop hating.

[el gringos]

Carmelo, jr, and bargnani are the keepers. Amare and chandler follow all the teams pg's out the door

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

is it official yet?

[scm5]

Carmelo, jr, and bargnani are the keepers. Amare and chandler follow all the teams pg's out the door

JR is not a keeper. That guy is not worth it.

[Black and White]

Melo is worthless???? OP is an idiot :facepalm

[YouGotServed]

I agree with the OP. Melo, Amare and Smith are all cancers to their team. If Knicks want to rebuild, Melo needs to go. He'll be the First one out of there.

[selrahc]

Melo is worthless???? OP is an idiot :facepalm

I havent seen him win anything :confusedshrug:

[Soundwave]

JR Smith. Not a Phil Jackson guy.

[aboss4real24]

I havent seen him win anything :confusedshrug:
u havent seen kd win nething either

But hes better than LB Also

[navy]

None. Melo is gone. Amare and Smith are hitting free agency.

[Black and White]

I havent seen him win anything :confusedshrug:

Ok, so based on that logic all these players are worthless then:

Melo
KD
Westbrook
Love
Griffin
CP3
LaMarcus Aldridge
Dwight Howard
Harden
Curry
Paul George

right??

[kenny817]

I havent seen him win anything :confusedshrug:

Neither has 80% of the league. Including Durant, CP3, and Dwight Howard. LeBron would be included in this if he hadn't teamed up like a loser.

Your statement is stupid

[Akrazotile]

Carmelo, jr, and bargnani are the keepers. Amare and chandler follow all the teams pg's out the door


:roll:


Carmelo, JR Smith, and Bargnani are keepers. Tyson Chandler get rid of.



#KnickMentality :bowdown:

[selrahc]

Ok, so based on that logic all these players are worthless then:

Melo
KD
Westbrook
Love
Griffin
CP3
LaMarcus Aldridge
Dwight Howard
Harden
Curry
Paul George

right??

Most of those players have been in the league way less than Melo and have not had as many chances.

[selrahc]

Neither has 80% of the league. Including Durant, CP3, and Dwight Howard. LeBron would be included in this if he hadn't teamed up like a loser.

Your statement is stupid

Im just saying I dont think Melo is the "winning" type

[Black and White]

Most of those players have been in the league way less than Melo and have not had as many chances.

CP3, Dwight and LaMarcus have been in the league for ages, are they still worthless? Dwight made the finals but didn't win, worthless right?

[smoovegittar]

I think Amare's contract will be first. Then a package of Chandler, J.R. and whoever else for picks...

What happens next, I have no idea. No one has convinced me yet that Melo's gone. As a matter of fact, I believe Melo was informed of all this weeks ago and he's playing the hush game with the Garden.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Im just saying I dont think Melo is the "winning" type

neither was Lebron until he joined a FMVP and an 24 & 10 all star PF

[red1]

JR and bargnani are not winning players. Two excellent examples of wasted talent

[Akrazotile]

neither was Lebron until he joined a FMVP and an 24 & 10 all star PF


He won 60+ games and a conference championship without a single all-star teammate. I think that classifies as a "winning player."


Kobe in those same circumstances was basically Raptors Bosh but with a ginormous army of retarded stans overrating him.

[Xiao Yao You]

Is there anyone worth keeping is the question?

[TheMarkMadsen]

He won 60+ games and a conference championship without a single all-star teammate.


Kobe in those same circumstances was basically Raptors Bosh but with a ginormous army of retarded stans overrating him.


damn he was on a team good enough to win 60+ games b2b and still left :confusedshrug:

BTW Mo Williams was an all star in 09


Kobe in those same circumstances was basically Raptors Bosh but with a ginormous army of retarded stans overrating him.

Kobe won 57 games, a WCF, made it to the finals and took it to 6 games w/o a single all star teammate in 2008

nice try :lol

[RightToCensor]

Nobody wants JR Smith and Felton's contracts....



Nobody.

[selrahc]

CP3, Dwight and LaMarcus have been in the league for ages, are they still worthless? Dwight made the finals but didn't win, worthless right?

No they are not worthless, because they put effort into winning and building into their team concept. Melo doesn't. He doesnt make any extra effort into getting more rebounds or playing defense or getting his teammates involved. He just wants to put up 40+ points every night.

[smoovegittar]

No they are not worthless, because they put effort into winning and building into their team concept. Melo doesn't. He doesnt make any extra effort into getting more rebounds or playing defense or getting his teammates involved. He just wants to put up 40+ points every night.

He's rebounded and played better D this year than any other, if you have been paying any attention :facepalm

[TheMarkMadsen]

No they are not worthless, because they put effort into winning and building into their team concept. Melo doesn't. He doesnt make any extra effort into getting more rebounds or playing defense or getting his teammates involved. He just wants to put up 40+ points every night.


:facepalm :facepalm

Melo's averaging more rpg than Lebron has ever averaged in his career

Melo's playing the best defense of his career

Melo is hustling more than i've ever seen him hustle

[selrahc]

:facepalm :facepalm

Melo's averaging more rpg than Lebron has ever averaged in his career

Melo's playing the best defense of his career

Melo is hustling more than i've ever seen him hustle

then why is his team 25-40. 28ppg/8rpg/3apg who is an amazing defender and hustles... a team with that caliber of a player should easily be in the playoffs in the east, no matter who he is playing with. melo is an empty stat sheet player

[Bandito]

He won 60+ games and a conference championship without a single all-star teammate. I think that classifies as a "winning player."


Kobe in those same circumstances was basically Raptors Bosh but with a ginormous army of retarded stans overrating him.in the eastern conference :roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

then why is his team 25-40. 28ppg/8rpg/3apg who is an amazing defender and hustles... a team with that caliber of a player should easily be in the playoffs in the east, no matter who he is playing with. melo is an empty stat sheet player


gee lets see, Chandler has missed 20+ games, there is no back up center

Bargnani was playing center at one point, and has also missed 20 games

JR Smith is the 2nd leading scorer who takes 13 shots to score 13 points on 39%

Amare can barley play 20 minutes per game

absolutely no back up bigs

Raymond felton has proven to be the worst starting PG in the league

the bright spot for this team outside of Melo is a rookie who is averaging 10ppg on 43%

Pay attention to the NBA outside of Lebron and you'd know this, that team is constructed terribly

[AirFederer]

JR will be like Mike in the triangle :lol

[SamuraiSWISH]

The obvious is JR Smith. He doesn't belong anywhere, besides maybe the Kings. They don't care about immature, crazy head cases on their roster. The rest is flexible. I don't think Amare would work under PJ.

[smoovegittar]

J.R. will end up with the Bulls. He thinks he's Melo, anyways :oldlol:

[SamuraiSWISH]

J.R. will end up with the Bulls. He thinks he's Melo, anyways :oldlol:
Bulls got him awhile ago and they gave him away for free. They are all about the character guys. So there is no chance in hell he ends up on the Bulls. He'll have to sign somewhere else.

[smoovegittar]

Bulls got him awhile ago and they gave him away for free. They are all about the character guys. So there is no chance in hell he ends up on the Bulls. He'll have to sign somewhere else.
Just funnin' Bro...

[aj1987]

Kobe won 57 games, a WCF, made it to the finals and took it to 6 games w/o a single all star teammate in 2008

nice try :lol
The Lakers were the 3rd best team offensively and 5th defensively. They also were the 4th best rebounding team. The Lakers shot 57% TS AS A TEAM. The league average was 54% TS.

[TheMarkMadsen]

The Lakers were the 3rd best team offensively and 5th defensively. They also were the 4th best rebounding team. The Lakers shot 57% TS AS A TEAM. The league average was 54% TS.

Thanks for pointing that out, pretty crazy Kobe led the team to be that good considering..

Bynum played 35 games

Gasol played 27 games

Luke Walton started 31 games

Vladimir Radmanovic started 41 games

Ronnie Turiaf started 21 games

Trevor Ariza played 24 games

Fisher, Odom & Radmanovic were the only players to play & start in 40 or more games other than Kobe of course

[3peated]

how is amare a cancer? he's simply just over paid. that's it, lol.

[aj1987]

Thanks for pointing that out, pretty crazy Kobe led the team to be that good considering..

Bynum played 35 games

Gasol played 27 games

Luke Walton started 31 games

Vladimir Radmanovic started 41 games

Ronnie Turiaf started 21 games

Trevor Ariza played 24 games

Fisher, Odom & Radmanovic were the only players to play & start in 40 or more games other than Kobe of course
Kobe wasn't a great passer that year, nor a great defender. His teammates stepped up BIG time. He wasn't even extra efficient. 57.6% TS compared to the teams 57% TS. He was a good rebounder though (for an SG). Stop downplaying his teammates. The Lakers went 22-5 after Gasol joined. 35-20 before that. They went from a 63% win team to a 81% win team.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe wasn't a great passer that year, nor a great defender. His teammates stepped up BIG time. He wasn't even extra efficient. 57.6% TS compared to the teams 57% TS. He was a good rebounder though (for an SG). Stop downplaying his teammates. The Lakers went 22-5 after Gasol joined. 35-20 before that. They went from a 63% win team to a 81% win team.

I'm not downplaying his teammates dude, pointing out that Gasol only played 27 games and Bynum only played 35 isn't downplaying, it's stating facts. Ariza was out too, Luke Walton and Vladimir Radmanovic were starting on a team that eventually made the finals..

you're acting like the team carried Kobe :oldlol:

they were headed for 50 wins before Gasol joined with a starting line up of

Fisher
Kobe
Walton
Odom
Bynum/Turiaf

with Bynum only having 4 more starts than Turiaf

Gasol was averaging 19ppg on 14 shots on 50% before he joined the Lakers, once he joined LA he was averaging 19ppg on 12 shots on 59%.. but no, the increase efficiency that has nothing to do with playing with Kobe :rolleyes:

Kobe wasn't a good defender that year? :lol 5th in DPOY voting, 1st team all defense with 2 steals per game would say otherwise

"Wasn't a great passer".. ok well he led the team in assist so that has to count for something..right?

Lakers went through the playoffs and made the finals with this line up

Fisher
Kobe
Radmonovic
Odom
Gasol

with Sasha Vujacic, Luke Walton, Jordan Farmar & Ronny Turiaf being the key reserves.

but no, continue to talk up that impressively talented roster, i don't even know why you responded to me, i simply said Kobe led a Lakers team to the finals without any all star teammates in 08, which is true, and you're trying to act like this was some incredibly talented team, when in fact, they were missing 2 starters basically all season and all through the playoffs.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

J.R. will end up with the Bulls. He thinks he's Melo, anyways :oldlol:
i always thought jr would become a superstar in the nba :facepalm

[TheMarkMadsen]

i always thought jr would become a superstar in the nba :facepalm

he has the talent to be a superstar. immature as **** doe, he's more athletic than some of todays superstars.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

is phil officially a knick or not? why are there so many threads? i always get ticked when certain sites are quick as hell to merge threads into one topic, but ish changes my perspective on this issue.

[TheMarkMadsen]

they've agreed "in principle"

which honestly with P Jax means absolutely nothing

if he joins then it's basically a lock Melo is staying in NY

[T-Time3]

everyone except melo,tyson,hardaway jr,prigioni,and shump

[AintNoSunshine]

Ok, so based on that logic all these players are worthless then:

Melo
KD
Westbrook
Love
Griffin
CP3
LaMarcus Aldridge
Dwight Howard
Harden
Curry
Paul George

right??

:oldlol: And Fisher should get paid a max contract.

[el gringos]

everyone except melo,tyson,hardaway jr,prigioni,and shump
No pattern? Just your favs or what?

[Patrick Chewing]

Carmelo, jr, and bargnani are the keepers. Amare and chandler follow all the teams pg's out the door


**** you

[The Genius]

how is amare a cancer? he's simply just over paid. that's it, lol.

He's not a cancer. NYK rolled dice on a guy who was uninsurable and crapped out. Can't blame Amare for signing.

[JohnFreeman]

Get rid of everybody except Melo and Hardaway Jr