Durant on Kobe: "He

[HOoopCityJones]

http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/2014/03/13/lakers-qa-kevin-durant-details-mentorship-from-kobe-bryant/

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[20Four]

[QUOTE=HOoopCityJones]http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/2014/03/13/lakers-qa-kevin-durant-details-mentorship-from-kobe-bryant/

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[moe94]

Kobe on his Rushmore

[NumberSix]

Servant trying to overcompensate.

[WallIn]

SMH

[Marlo_Stanfield]

what does the Servant know about basketball?
when it comes to FT shooting we might ask him:roll: :roll:

[russwest0]

"Who's Kevin Durant? What does he know?"

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Keep telling yourself that basically every single player in the NBA doesn't take Kobe over LeFlop.

[Solefade]

no wonder he respects russell so much, he probably sees kobe in russell :lol

[NumberSix]

Servant is a habitual dick sucker. Can't help but excessively ride jocks.

[zoom17]

Servant is a habitual dick sucker. Can't help but excessively ride jocks.

:oldlol:

[Doranku]

Kevin Durant's opinion >>>>>> any of you basement dwellers in this thread

[Heavincent]

The greatest player in the game today giving props to the greatest player of yesteryear.

[KyleKong]

"Who's Kevin Durant? What does he know?"

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Keep telling yourself that basically every single player in the NBA doesn't take Kobe over LeFlop.

What does this thread have do with LeBron James?

[Trollsmasher]

Servant confirms he knows jackshit about the game

[KyleKong]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2536225/durant-flop-o.gif

[russwest0]

What does this thread have do with LeBron James?

try to count the leflop stans posting in this thread. see if you can do it on one hand.

they mad :oldlol:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Durant really is a servant.

[riseagainst]

Durant knows what's up.

:applause:

[sportjames23]

Surprised no one posted that gif with MJ, KD and Bron yet. :oldlol:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Obviously Kobe ain't the GOAT, but dude is without a doubt one of THE most skilled player I've seen (his reverse pivot is disgusting).

[J Shuttlesworth]

try to count the leflop stans posting in this thread. see if you can do it on one hand.

they mad :oldlol:
So you were the first one to bring up LeBron in this thread, about KD/Kobe. Why am I not surprised? :lol Dude lives in your head rent free

[kennethgriffin]

yet another guy says kobe is right there with jordan as best player all time

[Marlo_Stanfield]

yet another guy says kobe is right there with jordan as best player all time

in terms of skill.
and even that is a giant lie if this skill is only good enough to never shoot over 47 % for an entire season:lol :lol

[red1]

he is right. kobe is right there with jordan in terms of skill

[sd3035]

Bran fanboys status:

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[Rooster]

Obviously Kobe ain't the GOAT, but dude is without a doubt one of THE most skilled player I've seen (his reverse pivot is disgusting).

I know he has that game where he was basically limited to his left and he was still effective. A lot of players are ambidextrous enough to make layups with their off hand but Kobe makes jumpshots and he uses the glass like Duncan and he can make you think he is a natural southpaw.

[Solefade]

Obviously Kobe ain't the GOAT, but dude is without a doubt one of THE most skilled player I've seen (his reverse pivot is disgusting).


i agree with this, most skilled in terms of foot work

[Dengness9]

Heat bandwagon frontrunners talking shit about KD in anticipation of his first MVP award and failed 3 peat for Miami to make matters worse.

F a ggots

[NumberSix]

he is right. kobe is right there with jordan in terms of skill
I'd actually say Kobe surpasses MJ in skill.

[f0und]

sure he's neck and neck with MJ....if you dont take into account the fact that jordan leads in nearly every single statistical measure in the game, some of the more important ones by a LARGE margin.

[f0und]

I'd actually say Kobe surpasses MJ in skill.

the only skill kobe has over jordan is the ability to get a shot off. but actually putting the ball INTO the basket is is completely different.

[Rooster]

the only skill kobe has over jordan is the ability to get a shot off. but actually putting the ball INTO the basket is is completely different.

Kobe has better range than Jordan but Jordan is more smarter on his shot selection. I think skill wise they are about the same

[f0und]

Kobe has better range than Jordan but Jordan is more smarter on his shot selection. I think skill wise they are about the same

kobe is marginally better than jordan on 3 pointers, but only in the reg season. in the playoffs, jordan's margin is higher. and in the finals, there is an even bigger gap.

jordan also has a better midrange game.

shots around the basket, there's no comparison. jordan blows him away.

[Keno]

ok so now we know to take anything durant says with a grain of salt. nice.

[AlphaWolf24]

the only skill kobe has over jordan is the ability to get a shot off. but actually putting the ball INTO the basket is is completely different.


#1 ) MJ averaged way more FGA while he played then Kobe did...so you are wrong in that aspect...MJ was better at getting his shot off ....( he simply did it much more)


#2) Kobe Bryant career

2PT%------------------------>48.3%
3PT%(eFG)------------------>33.9%
FT%-------------------------->83.7%
TS%(2PT%+ 3PT%+ FT%)-->55.7%

Michael Jordan career

2PT%------------------------>51.0%
3PT%(eFG)------------------>32.7%
FT%-------------------------->83.5%
TS%(2PT%+ 3PT%+ FT%)-->56.9%

Overall, in points per possesion kobe is behind michael by only 1.2% because he is marginally a better FT shooter, and he takes and makes a lot more threes(the main reason he's so behind in FG%). But overall, with all factors considered he's literally behind jordan by only 1.2% in overall efficiency.


so while it is technically " different".....I would use the term " Marginally Different"....at best


( not sure why I'm replying...as most Jordan Jockers are basketball illiterates)





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[bballnoob1192]

damn you stans are freaking out. he just ranked kobe on skills and he is kinda right. i would include hakeem in there somewhere with being one of the most skilled ever

[f0und]

#1 ) MJ averaged way more FGA while he played then Kobe did...so you are wrong in that aspect...MJ was better at getting his shot off ....( he simply did it much more)


#2) Kobe Bryant career

2PT%------------------------>48.3%
3PT%(eFG)------------------>33.9%
FT%-------------------------->83.7%
TS%(2PT%+ 3PT%+ FT%)-->55.7%

Michael Jordan career

2PT%------------------------>51.0%
3PT%(eFG)------------------>32.7%
FT%-------------------------->83.5%
TS%(2PT%+ 3PT%+ FT%)-->56.9%

Overall, in points per possesion kobe is behind michael by only 1.2% because he is marginally a better FT shooter, and he takes and makes a lot more threes(the main reason he's so behind in FG%). But overall, with all factors considered he's literally behind jordan by only 1.2% in overall efficiency.


so while it is technically " different".....I would use the term " Marginally Different"....at best


( not sure why I'm replying...as most Jordan Jockers are basketball illiterates)





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kobe shoots 40% and under about 1 out of every 3 games. jordan does that about 1 out 6 games. thats more than marginal.

1/3 of his games. thats absurd. if he was that skilled, you'd think he could be a bit more consistent.

[SamuraiSWISH]

At worst they're as skilled as one another. At best Jordan's superior off the ball game gives him a definitive advantage skill wise over Kobe's slight superiority shooting the long ball. It's literally that simple.

[selrahc]

i think kobe is more skilled than jordan, his footwork in the post is amazing and he can basically do it all. jordan was very similar but he played in an era with easier team defenses (no zone defenses where you can overload all of your players to focus on one guy).

[20Four]

i think kobe is more skilled than jordan, his footwork in the post is amazing and he can basically do it all. jordan was very similar but he played in an era with easier team defenses (no zone defenses where you can overload all of your players to focus on one guy).
:applause: :applause:

[SamuraiSWISH]

(no zone defenses where you can overload all of your players to focus on one guy).
Ummm, no. Have you played organized team basketball @ any level? Do you understand how to beat a zone? Because this post very clearly implies you don't.

Jordan's superior off the ball game, or catch n shoot abilities negate the zone. MJ's era they learned in college to kill REAL zones. Pros should be able to do it quite easily if they're as skilled as pros are meant to be.

That's why it didn't exist in the pros. Everyone could shoot, pass, and move without the ball.

You cut to the middle of a zone, or the soft spots to spot up for a shot. Not try to take entire team defenses aka zones off the dribble.

You constantly move, set screens, catch and shoot off the pass immediately. Efficiently without wasting energy.

These psuedo zones look more effective against Kobe because he dribbles too much to get into rhythm, doesn't have the same mid range shooting / catch and shoot skills that Jordan possessed.

Soft zone works against LeBron more because he lacks a consistent jumper, and mid range game. He's either drive, and kick or shoot the three ball for much of his career.

Soft zone works against Wade more because he lacks the post game, or a jumper period.

The soft rotating zone was put into the league to limit Shaq. And was also forcing the return of quality team skills that didn't relate exclusively to one on one abilities. The 2000s saw an influx of dumb HS players with no true knwoledge about the game or the different ways to play it. Including going against zone.

It's why the 2002 Team USA, and the 2004 Nightmare Team got beat by inferior athletic opponents.

Kobe is a marginally better ball handler. Marginally better long range shooter. He's clearly better shooting the three off the dribble though.

Meanwhile MJ is superior in every other regard. MJ is way better off ball skill set, ability to read defenses, aka his basketball intelligence. A skill.

Jordan would eat these zones ALIVE.

[selrahc]

Ummm, no. Have you played organized team basketball @ any level? Do you understand how to beat a zone? Because this post very clearly implies you don't.

Jordan's superior off the ball game, or catch n shoot abilities negate the zone. MJ's era they learned in college to kill REAL zones. Pros should be able to do it quite easily if they're as skilled as pros are meant to be.

That's why it didn't exist in the pros. Everyone could shoot, pass, and move without the ball.

You cut to the middle of a zone, or the soft spots to spot up for a shot. Not try to take entire team defenses aka zones off the dribble.

You constantly move, set screens, catch and shoot off the pass immediately. Efficiently without wasting energy.

These psuedo zones look more effective against Kobe because he dribbles too much to get into rhythm, doesn't have the same mid range shooting / catch and shoot skills that Jordan possessed.

Soft zone works against LeBron more because he lacks a consistent jumper, and mid range game. He's either drive, and kick or shoot the three ball for much of his career.

Soft zone works against Wade more because he lacks the post game, or a jumper period.

The soft rotating zone was put into the league to limit Shaq. And was also forcing the return of quality team skills that didn't relate exclusively to one on one abilities. The 2000s saw an influx of dumb HS players with no true knwoledge about the game or the different ways to play it. Including going against zone.

It's why the 2002 Team USA, and the 2004 Nightmare Team got beat by inferior athletic opponents.

Kobe is a marginally better ball handler. Marginally better long range shooter. He's clearly better shooting the three off the dribble though.

Meanwhile MJ is superior in every other regard. MJ is way better off ball skill set, ability to read defenses, aka his basketball intelligence. A skill.

Jordan would eat these zones ALIVE.

:facepalm

Off the ball movement doesnt negate zones... off the ball movement is effective for man to man in order to shake off your opponent to get an open shot. In zones the player doesnt have to follow or chase you around, they just have to be aware of you coming into their zone.

Setting screens to beat zones??? wtf is setting a screen gonna do against a zone defense?

MJ didn't have the long range shooting to beat a zone... zone defenses would eat MJ alive. Having three or four players on the same side of the court as MJ constantly ready to rush in and help any time he decided to drive to the basket, MJ wouldve shot 42% every season.

[Rodmantheman]

Kobe is a cheap version of Jordan:oldlol:

[aburre21]

if you wanna talk about actual skill...Larry Bird is probably the most skilled player of all time. Skills don't make you the best though, production does! KD validates my dislike for him every time his bitchass opens his mouth.





You have to actually get out there and perform. It's like the UFC. You see all these guys with these ridiculous wrestling credentials and karate or jujitsu and shit, then Jon Jones a junior college wrestler comes out there and puts them right on their shit :lol .

[Rodmantheman]

if you wanna talk about actual skill...Larry Bird is probably the most skilled player of all time. Skills don't make you the best though, production does! KD validates my dislike for him every time his bitchass opens his mouth.





You have to actually get out there and perform. It's like the UFC. You see all these guys with these ridiculous wrestling credentials and karate or jujitsu and shit, then Jon Jones a junior college wrestler comes out there and puts them right on their shit :lol .


:applause:

[NumberSix]

:facepalm

Off the ball movement doesnt negate zones...
Actually, it kinda does.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Beta

[russwest0]

Beta

Yup, nothing more alpha than declaring "I'm a top 4 player!" :oldlol:

[aburre21]

Yup, nothing more alpha than declaring "I'm a top 4 player!" :oldlol:
you're a complete nerd bruh. STFU clown!

[Solefade]

:facepalm

Off the ball movement doesnt negate zones... off the ball movement is effective for man to man in order to shake off your opponent to get an open shot. In zones the player doesnt have to follow or chase you around, they just have to be aware of you coming into their zone.

Setting screens to beat zones??? wtf is setting a screen gonna do against a zone defense?

MJ didn't have the long range shooting to beat a zone... zone defenses would eat MJ alive. Having three or four players on the same side of the court as MJ constantly ready to rush in and help any time he decided to drive to the basket, MJ wouldve shot 42% every season.


Lol @ this guy facepalming. You don't know chit about basketball son, sit down.

[STATUTORY]

Durant knows his nba history props

[9erempiree]

Durant has a great basketball mind.

[AlphaWolf24]

i think kobe is more skilled than jordan, his footwork in the post is amazing and he can basically do it all. jordan was very similar but he played in an era with easier team defenses (no zone defenses where you can overload all of your players to focus on one guy).


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[Vertical-24]

in terms of skill.
and even that is a giant lie if this skill is only good enough to never shoot over 47 % for an entire season:lol :lol

Kobe is one of the most skilled players of all time. This is not disputable.

Don't confuse his knack for taking atrocious shots for lack of skill. He and MJ are very comparable in terms of skill-set, with MJ holding the advantage in athleticism and shot-selection.

It's sad to see one of the 10 greatest players of all time get $hitted on and be so vastly underappreciated by too many on this site.

[DonDadda59]

i think kobe is more skilled than jordan, his footwork in the post is amazing and he can basically do it all. jordan was very similar but he played in an era with easier team defenses (no zone defenses where you can overload all of your players to focus on one guy).

It's 2008 post Bean choke against the Celtics all over again :oldlol:

Here's a little homework assignment for you: tell me when 'zone' was introduced, then tell me what Bean's production looked like before and after this point. For extra credit, do the same for the no touching on the perimeter rules too.

[imnew09]

Durant to the lakers

[juju151111]

:facepalm

Off the ball movement doesnt negate zones... off the ball movement is effective for man to man in order to shake off your opponent to get an open shot. In zones the player doesnt have to follow or chase you around, they just have to be aware of you coming into their zone.

Setting screens to beat zones??? wtf is setting a screen gonna do against a zone defense?

MJ didn't have the long range shooting to beat a zone... zone defenses would eat MJ alive. Having three or four players on the same side of the court as MJ constantly ready to rush in and help any time he decided to drive to the basket, MJ wouldve shot 42% every season.
:lol :lol :lol Your beyond stupid.

[Bob Dole]

This and many other quotes should let you idiots know to stop taking players opinions as gospel, and examine the logical reasoning of the quote at hand.

They often contradict themselves, are victims to public correctness, and sometimes just flat out have no idea what they are talking about.

[NumberSix]

Durant to the lakers
Until Jim Buss turns it down because he would rather keep Jordan Farmar

[selrahc]

It's 2008 post Bean choke against the Celtics all over again :oldlol:

Here's a little homework assignment for you: tell me when 'zone' was introduced, then tell me what Bean's production looked like before and after this point. For extra credit, do the same for the no touching on the perimeter rules too.

I dont have to look it up, I already know. Prime MJ would average no more than 20-5-5 in todays NBA.

[Railgun]

Durant does not know anything about basketball if he thinks that Kobe is anything but a borderline top 10 player.

[20Four]

Durant does not know anything about basketball if he thinks that Kobe is anything but a borderline top 10 player.
And you know more than durant how? Have you played a single NBA game?

[Jlamb47]

Durant knows what hes talking about. Kobe is a all time great

[DonDadda59]

I dont have to look it up, I already know.

Then you know why your post was so utterly stupid :applause:


Prime MJ would average no more than 20-5-5 in todays NBA.

So basically less than he averaged at age 38-40, on one leg during the 'zone' era. You're doing alright, keep it up :applause:

[JohnMax]

Shot selection my ass. Jordan took more shots in a game than Kobe.

[sportjames23]

I dont have to look it up, I already know. Prime MJ would average no more than 20-5-5 in todays NBA.


I already know you're a dumbass and never saw prime MJ play.

[Railgun]

And you know more than durant how? Have you played a single NBA game?
I am smarter in the game of basketball than Kevin Durant.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Durant knows what hes talking about. Kobe is a all time great
He's an all time great, but the greatest? :no:

[selrahc]

So basically less than he averaged at age 38-40, on one leg during the 'zone' era. You're doing alright, keep it up :applause:

Yes, zone defenses were new at the time and teams did not have as effective team defensive strategies as they have today.

[DonDadda59]

Shot selection my ass. Jordan took more shots in a game than Kobe.

Quality trumps quantity. How many times in his 18 year career did Bean shoot over 47%?


Yes, zone defenses were new at the time and teams did not have as effective team defensive strategies as they have today.

So you're saying Bean won his sidekick championships in a defensively weak era?

Also, please name me a few teams in the league that use 'zone' defense for more than a few odd possessions here and there.

[SexSymbol]

He just stated the obvious, as far as skills go, nobody is more skilled than Kobe, guy literally has every move in the book, nobody else can say that.
MJ never had the skyhook or a stepback turnaround 3pointer
Hakeem never had the shooting
Bird was never as good in mid-air as Kobe.
And Kobe has everything, he's absolutely deadly in the post, was the best post-up player last year in the whole league, good-to-great 3pt shooter, all-time great from mid-range, one of the best in-game dunkers ever, can pass although is sometimes unwilling to, good rebounder, especially when it matters.
Nikka even did some skyhooks last year, has made left handed threes. Literally everything you can think of, even shots behind the backboard

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Kobe is one of the most skilled players of all time. This is not disputable.

Don't confuse his knack for taking atrocious shots for lack of skill. He and MJ are very comparable in terms of skill-set, with MJ holding the advantage in athleticism and shot-selection.

It's sad to see one of the 10 greatest players of all time get $hitted on and be so vastly underappreciated by too many on this site.
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[Nikola_]

YOu cant play real zone with 3 sec rule

[Vienceslav]

Well it's true if you are speaking skill-wise, he just wasn't as good as Jordan when you put the other factors into the equation, after all, nobody was.

[eliteballer]

:applause:

[Smook A.]

KD be on dat next level crack cocaine

[red1]

durant having a complete meltdown

[K Xerxes]

He just stated the obvious, as far as skills go, nobody is more skilled than Kobe, guy literally has every move in the book, nobody else can say that.
MJ never had the skyhook or a stepback turnaround 3pointer
Hakeem never had the shooting
Bird was never as good in mid-air as Kobe.
And Kobe has everything, he's absolutely deadly in the post, was the best post-up player last year in the whole league, good-to-great 3pt shooter, all-time great from mid-range, one of the best in-game dunkers ever, can pass although is sometimes unwilling to, good rebounder, especially when it matters.
Nikka even did some skyhooks last year, has made left handed threes. Literally everything you can think of, even shots behind the backboard

Because this is an utterly stupid shot to take.

[Rooster]

He just stated the obvious, as far as skills go, nobody is more skilled than Kobe, guy literally has every move in the book, nobody else can say that.
MJ never had the skyhook or a stepback turnaround 3pointer
Hakeem never had the shooting
Bird was never as good in mid-air as Kobe.
And Kobe has everything, he's absolutely deadly in the post, was the best post-up player last year in the whole league, good-to-great 3pt shooter, all-time great from mid-range, one of the best in-game dunkers ever, can pass although is sometimes unwilling to, good rebounder, especially when it matters.
Nikka even did some skyhooks last year, has made left handed threes. Literally everything you can think of, even shots behind the backboard

I think you're getting mixed up with athleticism and skills. You see, athleticism is a god given talent but skills are acquired through learning and developing I through practice . Bird might not as good in mid air and could hardly jump over pieces of paper but when you talk about skills like shooting, passing, handle, using off hand rebounding etc, Bird is probably the most skilled ever.

[ForeverHeat]

Chuck recognise Chuck #respect

[moe94]

durant having a complete meltdown

Years of being a closet scumbag will do that to you.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Because this is an utterly stupid shot to take.
:roll: :roll:
tell these kobetards:roll:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Years of being a closet scumbag will do that to you.
:applause: :applause:

[red1]

Years of being a closet scumbag will do that to you.
I'm just waiting for the day his disguise fails and his true reptilian form is revealed. Wonder if russwest and these hicks would still consider him the mvp then

[Fudge]

Kev's right doe.

[Vertical-24]

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It's fine to disagree with that notion but to find it laughable just shows how young and feeble minded you really are. The biggest Kobe haters see he has a solid case for top 10. You're just an idiot.

[The-Legend-24]

First it was Pjax, now the current best player on the planet.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[FaceBack]

Durant is right, Goat 1a in skills.

[BlackVVaves]

It's fine to disagree with that notion but to find it laughable just shows how young and feeble minded you really are. The biggest Kobe haters see he has a solid case for top 10. You're just an idiot.

Good response to that half-wit.

Kobe is one of the most skilled players that has ever laced them up, and certainly a top 10 player in NBA history. I'm not sure if I'd say he's more skilled than Jordan, but as more coherent and intelligent minds have illustrated in this thread (the few that there are), it's a debatable topic.

Skill does not equal overall impact though. In that, Jordan is by far the superior player. But in terms of the development and diversity of his craft over the years? It's a discussion worth having.

Also, the LeBron stans really need to find a way to better mask their mass insecurities. It's quite pathetic actually.

[jstern]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2536225/durant-flop-o.gif

That fall looks painful in slow motion.

[20Four]

Good response to that half-wit.

Kobe is one of the most skilled players that has ever laced them up, and certainly a top 10 player in NBA history. I'm not sure if I'd say he's more skilled than Jordan, but as more coherent and intelligent minds have illustrated in this thread (the few that there are), it's a debatable topic.

Skill does not equal overall impact though. In that, Jordan is by far the superior player. But in terms of the development and diversity of his craft over the years? It's a discussion worth having.

Also, the LeBron stans really need to find a way to better mask their mass insecurities. It's quite pathetic actually.

Top 3 son of all time

[Asukal]

Kobe top 5? :roll:

I love KD but he needs more education on the history of the game. Skill for skill, Kobe has a case but that's where it ends. :rolleyes:

[MichaelCorleone]

:facepalm

[ImKobe]

sure he's neck and neck with MJ....if you dont take into account the fact that jordan leads in nearly every single statistical measure in the game, some of the more important ones by a LARGE margin.

weak era, higher pace. MJ in Kobe's era was an inefficient chucker like AI

During MJ's era, where he had his highest scoring years, teams averaged 10+ points more a game than they do today & took on average 7-8 more shots a game on much higher fg%. Shows me that defense wasn't that much of a priority.

[MichaelCorleone]

weak era, higher pace. MJ in Kobe's era was an inefficient chucker like AI

During MJ's era, where he had his highest scoring years, teams averaged 10+ points more a game than they do today & took on average 7-8 more shots a game on much higher fg%. Shows me that defense wasn't that much of a priority.
You don't believe this sh1t you're saying.:facepalm

[Deuce Bigalow]

weak era, higher pace. MJ in Kobe's era was an inefficient chucker like AI

During MJ's era, where he had his highest scoring years, teams averaged 10+ points more a game than they do today & took on average 7-8 more shots a game on much higher fg%. Shows me that defense wasn't that much of a priority.
:biggums:

32.4 ppg on 54.5 TS% in the '98 Playoffs at age 35 when Kobe was in the league

[Prometheus]

I hate Kobe but if you're talking only about skill, and only skill as pertains to scoring for oneself, and only scoring for oneself while disregarding missed shots or efficiency, and only talking about the players that have played since 2000...

Then I have no problem calling him one of the top 10 most skilled players.

[MichaelCorleone]

Greatest sidekick of all time sure.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Greatest sidekick of all time sure.
That's pretty good :applause: Wilt, West, Oscar, Magic, and Kareem were once sidekicks at a certain time of their career as well.

[MichaelCorleone]

That's pretty good :applause: Wilt, West, Oscar, Magic, and Kareem were once sidekicks at a certain time of their career as well.
Magic was never a sidekick. The rest, sure.

But I'll admit, Kobe is the greatest sidekick beta of all time.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Magic was never a sidekick. The rest, sure.

But I'll admit, Kobe is the greatest sidekick beta of all time.
1980

What's a sidekick beta in basketball?

[MichaelCorleone]

What's a sidekick beta in basketball?
http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/4920970629_7fb8758dbc-jpg.jpe

That guy being carried.

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/4920970629_7fb8758dbc-jpg.jpe

That guy being carried.
http://sambrief.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/miami-heat-welcome-big-3-party.jpg

[Prometheus]

Watching you two bicker right now is like watching that married couple have the same argument for the thousandth time when everyone on the outside is just rolling their eyes.

That being said, peak Shaq is more valuable than Wade + Bosh. :banana:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Watching you two bicker right now is like watching that married couple have the same argument for the thousandth time when everyone on the outside is just rolling their eyes.

That being said, peak Shaq is more valuable than Wade + Bosh. :banana:
Did Kobe in his prime leave his franchise to join peak Shaq doe?

[20Four]

At least Kobe doesn't lose to some random fat phuck in a game of horse..........*cough* LeBRONEZ medal *cough*

[MichaelCorleone]

At least Kobe doesn't lose to some random fat phuck in a game of horse..........*cough* LeBRONEZ medal *cough*
Lebronze medal?

How about DWade Medal.

http://i.imgur.com/5ZfbTFf.jpg

[Im Still Ballin]

Lebronze medal?

How about DWade Medal.

http://i.imgur.com/5ZfbTFf.jpg

Ether'd. So. Hard.

[selrahc]

its funny because skillwise lebron is probably the worst superstar of all time. he cannot shoot, he cannot dribble, he cant really do much except rely on his massive size and athleticism to bulldoze past people and go up for layups or dunks.

[Magic731]

Lebronze medal?

How about DWade Medal.

http://i.imgur.com/5ZfbTFf.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll:
This guy doesn't want to believe all of Kobe's accomplishments. Denial, Denial, Denial.

[Prometheus]

Did Kobe in his prime leave his franchise to join peak Shaq doe?

You don't have to work for fortunes when you inherit them.

[PHILA]

He is not even the best Lakers player of all time. :no:


http://i.imgur.com/OJUooaN.jpg

[KDthunderup]

its funny because skillwise lebron is probably the worst superstar of all time. he cannot shoot, he cannot dribble, he cant really do much except rely on his massive size and athleticism to bulldoze past people and go up for layups or dunks.
His elite passing game and ball handling for his size helps him immensely since he rarely draws double teams since he will pass it out easy to an open shooter.

He does lack a lot the skill and aesthetic play of players such as Jordan, Kobe and Durant but he makes up for it in other areas.

[buddha]

"You can put in athleticism and be the best passer and strongest and quickest. But it

[JT123]

Lebronze medal?

How about DWade Medal.

http://i.imgur.com/5ZfbTFf.jpg
:roll: This never gets old!

[CavaliersFTW]

Another player who doesn't know the game's history. What a surprise.

[MichaelCorleone]

It's obvious Durant is not physically-ABLED to give Lebron credits.

He shook. 2nd place beta servant better knows his place in the King's castle. B1tch.

[riseagainst]

so many people mad in this thread.

[Jlamb47]

It's obvious Durant is not physically-ABLED to give Lebron credits.

He shook. 2nd place beta servant better knows his place in the King's castle. B1tch.
No hes not shook, hes just being honest you idiot. You never made a good thread or comment in this ISH EVER. You are not basketball intelligent.

[TheMarkMadsen]

It's obvious Durant is not physically-ABLED to give Lebron credits.

He shook. 2nd place beta servant better knows his place in the King's castle. B1tch.

Not physically abled?

Go back to school

[The Iron Fist]

You don't have to work for fortunes when you inherit them.
Kobe was a Laker before Shaq. Try again.

[TheMarkMadsen]

You don't have to work for fortunes when you inherit them.

yup which is exactly why Magic>>> Kobe as the greatest Laker of all time :oldlol:

[AlphaWolf24]

So many caught feelings and are hurt by KD comments...:D


stay Mad H8Z....15 years of being THE Dominant Force.


deal wit it....

[HOoopCityJones]

Dude, Magic inherited just like Kobe.

Kareem was The Lakers best player the year he went down in the Finals.

[Shabba Ranks]

stick to 40+ points games Kd, u dont know what the hell you're talking about

[riseagainst]

yup which is exactly why Magic>>> Kobe as the greatest Laker of all time :oldlol:


Kobe was a Laker before Shaq. Try again.



lmao. Prometheus just got destroyed.

[Cali Syndicate]

Y'all need to realize, Kobe is the black mamba. If you have studied snake education at all, you'd know that snakes slither. Slithering is the progression of getting from point a to point b.

Ether.

[Shabba Ranks]

Y'all need to realize, Kobe is the black mamba. If you have studied snake education at all, you'd know that snakes slither. Slithering is the progression of getting from point a to point b.

Ether.


he still a registered rapist in col doe :roll:

[CeilingFan#1]

It always benefits players to say their era is the best and has the best players. It bumps up their own legacy. For example, if Durant says Kobe is the best, and then later there are debates about whether Durant is better than Kobe, people will then use it as a case for Durant's greatness.

[riseagainst]

It always benefits players to say their era is the best and has the best players. It bumps up their own legacy. For example, if Durant says Kobe is the best, and then later there are debates about whether Durant is better than Kobe, people will then use it as a case for Durant's greatness.

yeah, cus that's exactly what Durant was planning to do. He had this all figured out from the beginning.

:coleman: