Houston Rockets are pursuing Carmelo Anthony

[RightToCensor]

[QUOTE=Personal Inside Source]According to a league source, the Rockets will make a bid for Carmelo Anthony this summer, even though they probably won

[Le Shaqtus]

Terrible

[DMAVS41]

Asik, Lin, Casspi, and a pick for Melo?

Normally I wouldn't like trading for a guy like Melo that plays the same position as Parsons on a team with already a ball dominant player like Harden.

But Beverly, Harden, Parsons, Melo, and Howard would be too good to pass up. It would have the potential to be by far the best 5 man unit in the league.

[3peated]

i'm sure parsons would love to see his minutes diminish, and harden would love to see his touches drop.


stupid ****in trade

[Sarcastic]

Asik, Lin, Casspi, and a pick for Melo?


No way in the world the Knicks would take that awful package for Melo.

[ProfessorMurder]

Asik, Lin, Parsons, Montiejunas

[BlackVVaves]

i'm sure parsons would love to see his minutes diminish, and harden would love to see his touches drop.


stupid ****in trade

Put Melo at the 4, like he's been doing for much of the last two seasons.

Also, Harden would love to have someone that can actually operate in the post fluently.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

please if you trade Lin to New york in the process go for it:cheers: :cheers:

[ABfor3]

No way in the world the Knicks would take that awful package for Melo.
Jeremy Lin makes the deal so much more sweeter, he pretty much saved the franchise .

[dr.hee]

"Personal inside sources"? I'm not sure the sauces inside OP's mouth and anus are giving him accurate NBA news, no matter how much he might love the taste of it.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

No way in the world the Knicks would take that awful package for Melo.
:biggums: :biggums: :wtf:

[BlackWhiteGreen]

i'm sure parsons would love to see his minutes diminish, and harden would love to see his touches drop.


stupid ****in trade

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Yeah, let's not trade for a top 5 forward because Harden gets less touches. :roll:

[Nets fan 93]

Harden and Melo would just not work. Don't do it houston

[ForeverHeat]

"Personal inside sources"? I'm not sure the sauces inside OP's mouth and anus are giving him accurate NBA news, no matter how much he might love the taste of it.

:roll:

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Asik, Lin, Parsons, Montiejunas

Too much imo

[DMAVS41]

No way in the world the Knicks would take that awful package for Melo.

If Melo is going to leave and you get nothing back? You really wouldn't want those guys rather than nothing...and a pick?

Not to mention they expire after the year as well...so if they were going full on tanking...they could turn around and flip them to get more assets. Asik is at least worth a pick or two...even if they are 2nd rounders...that matters.

****...the Mavs would absolutely give a team Larkin and a pick for Asik. Obviously the money would have to work, but you get the point.

[Sarcastic]

There is literally no way that Dolan is accepting a sign and trade for these shitty packages for Carmelo Anthony.

[DMAVS41]

There is literally no way that Dolan is accepting a sign and trade for these shitty packages for Carmelo Anthony.

If he says he is leaving for sure. What leverage do they have? Take a look at the Lakers and see what it's like to get absolutely nothing...

[RightToCensor]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=llqk4ck

Rockets give NY our 1st for the next 2 years.

[Sarcastic]

If Melo is going to leave and you get nothing back? You really wouldn't want those guys rather than nothing...and a pick?

Not to mention they expire after the year as well...so if they were going full on tanking...they could turn around and flip them to get more assets. Asik is at least worth a pick or two...even if they are 2nd rounders...that matters.

****...the Mavs would absolutely give a team Larkin and a pick for Asik. Obviously the money would have to work, but you get the point.


Better to let him walk, not pay the luxury tax, and go tank mode than to take a crap deal, PAY the luxury tax, and ruin tank mode.

[Sarcastic]

If he says he is leaving for sure. What leverage do they have? Take a look at the Lakers and see what it's like to get absolutely nothing...


The leverage they have is Melo is not going to get his money, and hence will not sign outright. Do you really think he is taking a huge paycut?

[riseagainst]

if he any good? Can the Heat get him?

[RightToCensor]

Better to let him walk, not pay the luxury tax, and go tank mode than to take a crap deal, PAY the luxury tax, and ruin tank mode.
With what picks?

[DMAVS41]

Better to let him walk, not pay the luxury tax, and go tank mode than to take a crap deal, PAY the luxury tax, and ruin tank mode.

That is my point though. You don't have to pay Asik...he's actually worth something. You could just move him. And get back even more. I'm not sure why fans struggle to see how it gives you options.

Also, getting a first round pick back for Melo is way better than "nothing"...especially because that is exactly what the Knicks need....picks.

[DMAVS41]

The leverage they have is Melo is not going to get his money, and hence will not sign outright. Do you really think he is taking a huge paycut?

I don't know if he is willing to sign outright or not. I'm assuming he is...because if he wants to win...he can't gut the team that he goes to in a sign and trade.

So I really don't understand what you are talking about. It's the same shit we heard about Lebron...people saying there is no way he's going to take a pay cut.

I have no idea if Melo is willing to or not, but he is at least saying he wants to win...and there is no way he's winning if he guts the team he goes to in a sign and trade.

[imnew09]

Multiple teams involve. Lin asik garcia and money . If knicks dont want asik they can work around with other teams to get some role players.


But why would the knicks do that?

[3peated]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Yeah, let's not trade for a top 5 forward because Harden gets less touches. :roll:


why trade for an aging top 5 forward when you have a young top 5 guard? and a really good forward already.


you're a special type of retard, aren't you?

[DMAVS41]

Multiple teams involve. Lin asik garcia and money . If knicks dont want asik they can work around with other teams to get some role players.


But why would the knicks do that?

Yea...something like that.

What do you mean why? If the options are letting him walk...or getting at least a first round pick and a couple 2nd round picks or something when it's all said and done. Why would they just let him walk?

[cos88]

:facepalm

[Akrazotile]

"Names" on paper does not equal success. This would be a terrible trade for the Rockets.

[DMAVS41]

"Names" on paper does not equal success. This would be a terrible trade for the Rockets.

I didn't like it at first either, but you really don't like;

Beverly/Harden/Parson/Melo/Howard

You have elite defenders at 1, 3, and 5...

And elite offensive forces in Harden and Melo.

I don't know man...I see that 5 man unit being ****ing deadly.

[FKAri]

Harden and Melo on the same team? lmao. What a disaster.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

why trade for an aging top 5 forward when you have a young top 5 guard? and a really good forward already.

you're a special type of retard, aren't you?

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[BlackVVaves]

I didn't like it at first either, but you really don't like;

Beverly/Harden/Parson/Melo/Howard

You have elite defenders at 1, 3, and 5...

And elite offensive forces in Harden and Melo.

I don't know man...I see that 5 man unit being ****ing deadly.

Beverly and Parsons are not elite defenders bro. You put those two in with the likes of Bledsoe and Iggy?

The word "elite" gets thrown around way too much.

But I agree, if I were the Rockets, I'd pursue Melo too. A Harden/Melo pick and roll at the top of the key would be interesting.

Personally, I think the team that Melo would fit in the best, and would benefit the most from his presence, are the Blazers. Was actually going to create a thread last night detailing why.

But then I got high :lol J/K

[RightToCensor]

Lebron and Wade are on the same team, one of them was able to take a backseat.

Expect Melo to take the backseat.

[ProfessorMurder]

Too much imo

No way would the Knicks do anything without getting Parsons. Asik and Lin have big enough contracts, because they won't give up Harden/Dwight. Then throw in either: Montiejunas as another young piece, a pick, or Garcia.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

I didn't like it at first either, but you really don't like;

Beverly/Harden/Parson/Melo/Howard

You have elite defenders at 1, 3, and 5...

And elite offensive forces in Harden and Melo.

I don't know man...I see that 5 man unit being ****ing deadly.
lmfao at Beverley being an elite defender.
have you actually watched the Rockets??
there is a thread open right now where everyone agrees bev is at BEST average on defense

[Rose'sACL]

Lebron and Wade are on the same team, one of them was able to take a backseat.

Expect Melo to take the backseat.
harden should do that till melo declines if melo does go to rockets. Melo is the clear better scorer. harden should focus more on play-making if this happens.

[BlackVVaves]

One thing is for sure. If Melo did get to Houston, Morey would have to kick McHale to the curb before the ink dried. You need someone capable of building a fluent offense with Harden and Melo on the court.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Dwight 3 weeks in: "I can't play defence because I'm not getting the ball in the post"

[DMAVS41]

Beverly and Parsons are not elite defenders bro. You put those two in with the likes of Bledsoe and Iggy?

The word "elite" gets thrown around way too much.

But I agree, if I were the Rockets, I'd pursue Melo too. A Harden/Melo pick and roll at the top of the key would be interesting.

Personally, I think the team that Melo would fit in the best, and would benefit the most from his presence, are the Blazers. Was actually going to create a thread last night detailing why.

But then I got high :lol J/K

Beverly and Howard are absolutely elite defenders at their position.

Yes, you are right...I shouldn't have included Parsons as "elite"...he should be in the "really good defender" at his position camp.

But yes, Beverly is an elite defender at his position.

[RightToCensor]

No way would the Knicks do anything without getting Parsons. Asik and Lin have big enough contracts, because they won't give up Harden/Dwight. Then throw in either: Montiejunas as another young piece, a pick, or Garcia.
Knicks don't have leverage. They need to take what they can get and not be stingy.

Melo and Greivis to HOU

Lin and Fields + Picks to NY

Asik, D-Mo, and Garcia to TOR

[BlackVVaves]

No way would the Knicks do anything without getting Parsons. Asik and Lin have big enough contracts, because they won't give up Harden/Dwight. Then throw in either: Montiejunas as another young piece, a pick, or Garcia.

Let him go then. Parsons is cool, but the guy is the definition of streaky. Started the season playing like shit, then had a 20 game span that was awesome, and now he's back to playing like shit.

Didn't this happen last year too?

[DMAVS41]

lmfao at Beverley being an elite defender.
have you actually watched the Rockets??
there is a thread open right now where everyone agrees bev is at BEST average on defense

everyone agrees? awesome...that means I'm most likely right considering how stupid most people are on here.

[BlackVVaves]

Beverly and Howard are absolutely elite defenders at their position.

Yes, you are right...I shouldn't have included Parsons as "elite"...he should be in the "really good defender" at his position camp.

But yes, Beverly is an elite defender at his position.

Howard without a doubt. I'm not sold on Beverly. He's just a pesky little guy that gets under your skin. Any elite point guard that has been able to ignore his tactics have produced at their average rate against him, if not above.

To me, an elite perimeter defender is someone who effectively holds you below your offensive averages. Simplistically speaking of course.

Edit: you gotta show me consistency and your prowess in the playoffs before I award you the title elite. Let's see Beverly shut some point guards down for multiple seasons, and in this years playoffs.

[ProfessorMurder]

Knicks don't have leverage. They need to take what they can get and not be stingy.

Melo and Greivis to HOU

Lin and Fields + Picks to NY

Asik, D-Mo, and Garcia to TOR

You realize that makes absolutely 0 sense money wise, right?


Let him go then. Parsons is cool, but the guy is the definition of streaky. Started the season playing like shit, then had a 20 game span that was awesome, and now he's back to playing like shit.

Didn't this happen last year too?

Probably, I don't know since I'm not a Rockets fan. He's a young dude with potential at least, plus he'd get no time behind Melo anyway.

Melo to Houston is dumb anyway, since you'd have him and Harden playing matador defense together, and chucking. Then Dwight will get pissy. I'm just throwing stuff out there.

[KungFuJoe]

Parsons is NOT an elite defender...I don't even know if I'd call him "good". He tries, but he gets pushed around way too easily and he has trouble staying in front of quicker 3s. Durant played as if no one was guarding him, but of course, this is Durant we're talking about so Parsons gets a pass.

Garcia is a better defender than Parsons.

[DMAVS41]

Howard without a doubt. I'm not sold on Beverly. He's just a pesky little guy that gets under your skin. Any elite point guard that has been able to ignore his tactics have produced at their average rate against him, if not above.

To me, an elite perimeter defender is someone who effectively holds you below your offensive averages. Simplistically speaking of course.

Edit: you gotta show me consistency and your prowess in the playoffs before I award you the title elite. Let's see Beverly shut some point guards down for multiple seasons, and in this years playoffs.

Fair enough about the playoffs...I agree.

I just was saying what Beverly has done this year...and so far this year he's certainly in the conversation of best pg defender in the league. To me that is elite.

Like I said above, I should not have included Parsons in that. He's not in that discussion at his position.

[KungFuJoe]

Houston needs a new coach...not a new superstar.

[BlackVVaves]

You realize that makes absolutely 0 sense money wise, right?



Probably, I don't know since I'm not a Rockets fan. He's a young dude with potential at least, plus he'd get no time behind Melo anyway.

Melo to Houston is dumb anyway, since you'd have him and Harden playing matador defense together, and chucking. Then Dwight will get pissy. I'm just throwing stuff out there.

Agree on the defensive part. But if you play Melo at the 4 and get a defensive 3 to fill Parson's position, you can mask some of those defensive deficiencies.

As it stands though, Melo is a much better defender than Harden, and Melo is an average defender at BEST. Harden is just putrid.

[DMAVS41]

Agree on the defensive part. But if you play Melo at the 4 and get a defensive 3 to fill Parson's position, you can mask some of those defensive deficiencies.

As it stands though, Melo is a much better defender than Harden, and Melo is an average defender at BEST. Harden is just putrid.

Harden is truly an awful defender, but there was ever a team that could have Melo and Harden on it and work...it would be surrounding them with their best 5 man unit with Beverly, Parson, and Howard. Those guys are all quality defenders and don't need the ball much. Parsons would flourish even more imo, being the 4th best player on his own team on the court...

[BlackVVaves]

Fair enough about the playoffs...I agree.

I just was saying what Beverly has done this year...and so far this year he's certainly in the conversation of best pg defender in the league. To me that is elite.

Like I said above, I should not have included Parsons in that. He's not in that discussion at his position.

I hear you. Personally, I'd rather Rondo, Conley, CP3 (though he's fallen off defensively this year), Westbrook before Beverly defensively. But that's just me. And I agree, based on his performance this year, he's certainly a Top 5 defender at his position.

[Shabba Ranks]

melo on any team = shiiiiiiet

[BlackVVaves]

Harden is truly an awful defender, but there was ever a team that could have Melo and Harden on it and work...it would be surrounding them with their best 5 man unit with Beverly, Parson, and Howard. Those guys are all quality defenders and don't need the ball much. Parsons would flourish even more imo, being the 4th best player on his own team on the court...

Agree with you there, though again I wouldn't mind seeing Parsons go if I was Morey.

I'm telling you man. Lillard, Melo, Aldridge, Matthews, Lopez. DEADLY.

[DMAVS41]

I hear you. Personally, I'd rather Rondo, Conley, CP3 (though he's fallen off defensively this year), Westbrook before Beverly defensively. But that's just me. And I agree, based on his performance this year, he's certainly a Top 5 defender at his position.

It's close between all those guys. That was my point. Beverly has played as good or better defense than all of those guys this year.

I understand what you are saying and we are in total agreement. Beverly has to prove it in the playoffs like anyone else.

In a vacuum with all the above guys fully healthy. I think I'd take Conley over them all defensively...

[DMAVS41]

Agree with you there, though again I wouldn't mind seeing Parsons go if I was Morey.

I'm telling you man. Lillard, Melo, Aldridge, Matthews, Lopez. DEADLY.

Oh for sure. The Blazers would be sick.

[BlackVVaves]

It's close between all those guys. That was my point. Beverly has played as good or better defense than all of those guys this year.

I understand what you are saying and we are in total agreement. Beverly has to prove it in the playoffs like anyone else.

In a vacuum with all the above guys fully healthy. I think I'd take Conley over them all defensively...

Yeah, same here. Conley is so underrated it's not even funny.

[BlackVVaves]

Blazers are what, $4 million over the cap?

Put a package together around Batum and some picks, + fillers. Or, clear some massive space on draft night. Idk, make it work.

Melo thrives next to an elite point guard. Work him off screens and drive and kick outs, use him in the post with Matthews and Lillard behind the three point line and Aldridge at the free throw line.

It makes too much sense.

[Akrazotile]

I didn't like it at first either, but you really don't like;

Beverly/Harden/Parson/Melo/Howard

You have elite defenders at 1, 3, and 5...

And elite offensive forces in Harden and Melo.

I don't know man...I see that 5 man unit being ****ing deadly.



Theres really not much point in having multiple one-dimensional volume scorers on the same team. You dont beat teams in the playoffs going 1 on 1, and Harden and Melo can't pass. Its kind of like how the Thunder are basically the same team with or without Westbrook. Adding a second volume guy just takes touches away from the other, it doesnt just add their point totals together.

I mean Lebron and Wade teamed up (great defenders, high IQ, better offensive players than melo/harden respectively at the time they teamed up) and they even had trouble working the kinks out, and still arent locks each year. And they have shooters around them which Houston doesnt.

If you look at teams that make the finals the last decade, it is ALWAYS high iq, ball movement, defense. I dont see that team having it at a championship level. I could be wrong, but personally I dont think theyd make a finals even once.

[Rameek]

I think people here are under the impression that the Knicks are under the old idiotic Dolan based regime. I think Phil will be too intelligent to accept some of those terrible offers. Besides I'd rather him walk away for nothing and have to wait for like the 4th year to get his bread than to even consider those sh!tty proposals.

[RightToCensor]

I think people here are under the impression that the Knicks are under the old idiotic Dolan based regime. I think Phil will be too intelligent to accept some of those terrible offers. Besides I'd rather him walk away for nothing and have to wait for like the 4th year to get his bread than to even consider those sh!tty proposals.

:facepalm This is why you all haven't won shit since the 1885.

[dazzer87]

No way in the world the Knicks would take that awful package for Melo.
:roll: :roll: :roll: We are talking about Melo here, one-dimension player

[DMAVS41]

Theres really not much point in having multiple one-dimensional volume scorers on the same team. You dont beat teams in the playoffs going 1 on 1, and Harden and Melo can't pass. Its kind of like how the Thunder are basically the same team with or without Westbrook. Adding a second volume guy just takes touches away from the other, it doesnt just add their point totals together.

I mean Lebron and Wade teamed up (great defenders, high IQ, better offensive players than melo/harden respectively at the time they teamed up) and they even had trouble working the kinks out, and still arent locks each year. And they have shooters around them which Houston doesnt.

If you look at teams that make the finals the last decade, it is ALWAYS high iq, ball movement, defense. I dont see that team having it at a championship level. I could be wrong, but personally I dont think theyd make a finals even once.

I agree with a lot of this, but Melo and Harden are both great shooters...so the offense would be fantastic in my opinion...and don't forget about Howard. He'd basically have to be single covered in that 5 man unit.

Look...usually the teams that contend and win have some combination of two all nba players or two legit star players...and be able to play top 8 or better defense.

But the Rockets are at 12th defensively right now. And I don't know how they are going to get a ton better defensively honestly. So if they aren't going to go all in defensively...then I like going more offense and hoping you can lock down when needed.

But I get your point and I think it's valid, but again...it's hard for me to turn down what would be the best 5 man unit in the NBA currently.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Knicks don't have leverage. They need to take what they can get and not be stingy.

Melo and Greivis to HOU

Lin and Fields + Picks to NY

Asik, D-Mo, and Garcia to TOR
unless ny is getting 2 1st rounders, no way they make this deal. lin and fields are useless.

[IncarceratedBob]

Knicks wouldnt even accept Harden or Dwight straight up for Melo lol

[BlazerRed]

"Personal inside sources"? I'm not sure the sauces inside OP's mouth and anus are giving him accurate NBA news, no matter how much he might love the taste of it.
Don't do OP dirty like that :roll:

[RightToCensor]

Carmelo, Howard, Jones.

Now that's a formidable frontline.

Did you hear that LA? Formidable.

[longtime lurker]

unless ny is getting 2 1st rounders, no way they make this deal. lin and fields are useless.

Cosigned. No picks no deal. People forget that the Knicks will be paying an extra 14 million on the contracts of Lin and Asik. Why tha fvck would you go into luxury tax for these two?

[Milbuck]

Man, the Rockets would be lucky to have Melo. He would really put them on the map again. They've been dying for a franchise player ever since T-Mac and Yao were destroyed by injuries.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Blazers are what, $4 million over the cap?

Put a package together around Batum and some picks, + fillers. Or, clear some massive space on draft night. Idk, make it work.

Melo thrives next to an elite point guard. Work him off screens and drive and kick outs, use him in the post with Matthews and Lillard behind the three point line and Aldridge at the free throw line.

It makes too much sense.
they are better off keeping batum and the picks imo

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Carmelo, Howard, Jones.

Now that's a formidable frontline.

Did you hear that LA? Formidable.
D-mo is way better than Jones:facepalm

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

D-mo is way better than Jones:facepalm
who?

[KungFuJoe]

D-mo is way better than Jones:facepalm

No he's not. TJones is still the better player. Better rebounder and better scorer. Better FT shooter too.

DMo is a better post player and post defender. That's about it.

DMo has the higher ceiling but he's still a bit soft, in my opinion.

[eliteballer]

Man, the Rockets would be lucky to have Melo. He would really put them on the map again. They've been dying for a franchise player ever since T-Mac and Yao were destroyed by injuries.

:roll:

[ballup]

Even the Knicks FO wouldn't give up Melo for a lot of these deals. They would ask for both Asik and Parsons at a minimum for Melo.

[navy]

Chemistry is overrated. Talent will win out. Very few teams have two elite defenders.

[ALBballer]

If the Knicks can get Parsons/Lin/Asik for Melo then I would pull the trigger. That's a pretty damn good deal for Melo.

[RightToCensor]

Parsons ain't goin nowhere. :roll:

We got Harden for a bench player, Jeremey Lamb, and a 1st.

We got Howard for free.

Morey stay using cheat codes. :bowdown:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

If the Knicks can get Parsons/Lin/Asik for Melo then I would pull the trigger. That's a pretty damn good deal for Melo.
Lin,Shumpert/Hardaway,Parsons,Amare/Andrea,Asik:bowdown: :bowdown: :applause:
Lin would IMMEDIATLY become a superstar again and average 20/9 on that unselfish team:applause:

[Milbuck]

Harden for Lavoy Allen. Who says no?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Parsons ain't goin nowhere. :roll:

We got Harden for a bench player, Jeremey Lamb, and a 1st.

We got Howard for free.

Morey stay using cheat codes. :bowdown:
lol, you can tell this clown just started paying attention to basketball when houston acquired harden and/or d-ho. got howard for free :lol

[smoovegittar]

Zen Master says " Try again later"...

[Smook A.]

Harden for Lavoy Allen. Who says no?
Everyone in this world says no except you.

[ABfor3]

Bring Melo here to houston only so I can snatch LaLa away from him...wax on wax off on that ass

[Smook A.]

Bring Melo here to houston only so I can snatch LaLa away from him...wax on wax off on that ass
:lol

[Milbuck]

We're seriously gonna act like Melo would be okay sharing a locker room with the smelliest player in the NBA? Harden's beard odor would drive him out of Houston within the first week.

[RightToCensor]

Houston would have 3 of the top 10 playera in the league.


:bowdown:

[ballup]

Chemistry is overrated. Talent will win out. Very few teams have two elite defenders.
The Cavs and Knicks would disagree.

[RightToCensor]

Double Bump

[Milbuck]

On second thought, it's good that Houston's going for Melo. They've got enough role players, all they need is that 2nd star to pair with Dwight.

[JohnFreeman]

On second thought, it's good that Houston's going for Melo. They've got enough role players, all they need is that 2nd star to pair with Dwight.
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[UK2K]

[B]Wojnarowski: Rockets join Bulls atop Carmelo Anthony

[outbreak]

No way in the world the Knicks would take that awful package for Melo.

if melo says he is walking in free agency they will take any rubbish and picks they are given. Regardless though this is a joke thread so i don't know why people are thinking the rockets actually want melo...

[RightToCensor]

[QUOTE=UK2K][B]Wojnarowski: Rockets join Bulls atop Carmelo Anthony